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spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Controllable recoil? Ahaha gently caress that just use Jacket's Piece-

Oh, I remembered that I can get that to 100 stability easily. Well, use Jacket's Piece no matter what

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Shadowed Bacon
Apr 28, 2009

Crabtree posted:

Crime is in, man. Just wait until we get a loving Caveman Crime game.

Bonus points if they go full SERIOUS GAME and make it like Flintstones level goofy prehistory.

"just keep the mammoth running" *steals money carved from rocks*

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

canada jezus posted:

Whats everyones favorite/best smg? I can find one that i really like, i don't know how to mod them really.

Krinkov. 822 rpm, 85 damage, 80 accuracy and a 60 round magazine. Hard to top that.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


John Murdoch posted:

So we're officially up to three Payday-connected spun-off co-op games, not counting that other thing Overkill has on the backburner and a theoretical (but probably inevitable) Payday 3.

Dont forget Hardline. oh...wait

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Does Hardline still have an active playerbase or has it gone the road of EVOLVE?

swims
May 5, 2014

Waiter, this band keeps shooting pearls at me.
Console kinda update sort of... this Friday... Maybe...sort of

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Crabtree posted:

Does Hardline still have an active playerbase or has it gone the road of EVOLVE?

It's like one fourth of BF4, but then again it just popped up on that Origin Access program so I imagine it will gain some players.


John Murdoch posted:

So we're officially up to three Payday-connected spun-off co-op games, not counting that other thing Overkill has on the backburner and a theoretical (but probably inevitable) Payday 3.

There already is a Payday 3 and we're playing it. Today's Payday 2 is almost nothing like the Payday 2 at launch.

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


A new achievement. "Server Shenanigans".

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
If Goat Simulator is possible than I will believe one day in 2020 we will be playing an honest to god Payday 3. It'll take a back burner to its predecessor still kicking around, but Payday 2 will somehow still exist as a smaller TF2/petri dish for PD3.

Wastrel_
Jun 3, 2004

Read it and weep.

Literal Nazi Furry posted:

tension, stress, and attrition is still the best part of payday. did you ever play the original by any chance? I'm banking on no

Played it from release, didn't get golden mask but did finish all heists on Overkill difficulty and most of them on Overkill 145+.

Yes, it was also a game I could win, so no problems. But the way some people talk, they want a game where every heist needs 10 tries or more before you manage limp to the van with 5% health as 15 black dozers are sprinting into the map after you. There are even people who suggest that the static which signals that cloakers are near, is making the game too easy.

canada jezus
Jul 18, 2011

Tempest_56 posted:

Krinkov. 822 rpm, 85 damage, 80 accuracy and a 60 round magazine. Hard to top that.

I'm trying this now, i figured ammo would be a problem but it really hasn't been. Also is it me, or are armored transport heist really hard without C4 and a saw. Like i'm getting shot up surprisingly hard. I guess i'm too used to staying out of cover.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

canada jezus posted:

Also is it me, or are armored transport heist really hard without C4 and a saw. Like i'm getting shot up surprisingly hard. I guess i'm too used to staying out of cover.

The transport jobs vary a great deal depending on which map you're on, both how many and where the trucks spawned, and what loot you have to haul. The one thing they have in common though is that they all love to flood you with cops from most every angle and rarely give you enough cover to deal with all of them.

But with the exception of the nightmare that Crossroads can turn into, they're not particularly bad on not-DW.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
They're really easy to blitz if you've got the C4, and I'd never attempt one without a saw. Picking boxes is miserable.

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...
Loading up a C4/Saw Techforcer and blitzing a couple DW ATs is actually pretty drat fun. They're reasonably quick, but drat tense for the short time you're there. Even Crossroads can be fun if you've got a team who even slightly understand holding out indoors during assault waves.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
AT heists are great to get that High Speed Low Drag feeling. It's a slight shame it requires so much special equipment.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
I honestly wish more heists rewarded the kind of preparation the armored transport missions demand.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

oohhboy posted:

AT heists are great to get that High Speed Low Drag feeling. It's a slight shame it requires so much special equipment.

That's what I kinda like about them, they really are the heists that promote something else then just Masterforcer builds for everyone, it actually requires you to prepare beyond the few clicks to buy the assets.

Jesus why do we even HAVE assets at this point beyond pre-planning? Everyone is swimming in cash, there is no reason to have them anymore, they're just additional clicks you have to do before going out.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
So you can gnash your teeth when you're about to set out on a "Only Santa Brings Gifts" run and you just automatically buy them.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

Wastrel_ posted:

Played it from release, didn't get golden mask but did finish all heists on Overkill difficulty and most of them on Overkill 145+.

Yes, it was also a game I could win, so no problems. But the way some people talk, they want a game where every heist needs 10 tries or more before you manage limp to the van with 5% health as 15 black dozers are sprinting into the map after you. There are even people who suggest that the static which signals that cloakers are near, is making the game too easy.

please do show me that. I've never seen people wish cloakers never made any sound and that sounds like a fun one.

canada jezus
Jul 18, 2011

John Murdoch posted:

The transport jobs vary a great deal depending on which map you're on, both how many and where the trucks spawned, and what loot you have to haul. The one thing they have in common though is that they all love to flood you with cops from most every angle and rarely give you enough cover to deal with all of them.

But with the exception of the nightmare that Crossroads can turn into, they're not particularly bad on not-DW.

Crossroads is the one that gave us the most trouble. I finally have enough skill points for saw and shaped charges. I've got a hockey mask and i'm ready to roll. I also really like the planning that goes into it. No C4 and No saw crosssroads transport made me want to be a techforcer.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Dr Cheeto posted:

So you can gnash your teeth when you're about to set out on a "Only Santa Brings Gifts" run and you just automatically buy them.

I'm that guy that goes "Ohh... uhh..." right after someone says don't buy any assets.

AT heists are fun on DW. I did originally dislike them on any difficulty because for the effort required it was a pretty lovely payout. The game has changed a ton since then and the AT heists have aged well with it. Still bad payouts but as others here have mentioned it's one of the few heists you can gear up for and just bang it out. It has little cover but just enough to possibly duck out of combat for a slight moment. At the same time it isn't overly difficult that you are unable to do them. Well, if you bring a saw at least.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Trying to edit the OP to make it more new or returning player-friendly these days. If I'm not adding or editing, I'm at least updating the language so that it doesn't seem like the OP was written ages ago.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
The Point Break DLC should probably be on that DLC list, under the sniper pack somewhere. The baby deagle is king poo poo of gently caress mountain right now.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


:overkill:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/458607518208698745/

they havent been able to fix the crashes yet so later today they're going to release a hotfix to disable targetting enemies. Way to go #overcuck

Blight Runner
May 3, 2009

canada jezus posted:

Crossroads is the one that gave us the most trouble. I finally have enough skill points for saw and shaped charges. I've got a hockey mask and i'm ready to roll. I also really like the planning that goes into it. No C4 and No saw crosssroads transport made me want to be a techforcer.

Same here. I love being able to get more loot for having invested in a techforcer build. Not many builds come close to that level of loud utility. What bugs me is that one safe in the counting room of Big Bank that can't be drilled or C4'd. Is that the best they can do to incentivize me into putting skills towards Ghost? I just have a hard time trying out other builds/skills since I feel I'd be less effective in a heist. Until they change the way skills and maps work together it will be the time of the TechForcer and FugiMind.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe
I recall playing with a few guys who were like "Why don't they just disable spotting?" if that really is what is causing the crashing problems. Well:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/218620/announcements/detail/807636489329851774

quote:

Heisters,

First of all, thank you everyone for your patience these past two weeks. We're sorry we haven't been able to fix this crash issue yet. We're working on getting it fixed every day. We've heard a lot of support from you while we're trying to get it done and it means a lot us. Thank you for that.

We have a temporary fix in so you can play the game without crashing.



While our programmers are working on the crash fix, some of our artists have made some new weapon skins. We're launching a free safe + drill that you get by completing a new achievement.



    Hotfix 94.2 changelog
    Update size: 834,4 MB

  • Added a temporary fix to stop people from crashing because of outlines/LOD
  • Added a new safe and drill that is unlocked for free via an achievement
  • Added a new achievement
  • Temporarily reduced all special enemy health by 15%

quote:

for every microtransaction you add i will add another year delay to coming back to this game

maybe should not have added microtransactions KARMA IS A BITCH

this would have been a bigger deal if you didn't kill off the entire playerbase

Nobody cares, go and make more loving money-sucking DLC with goats

It pleases me that Almir reads this and knows how much people hate what his game has become. Money is temporary, but his legacy as a Jew will last through out his career and life.
lol

At least this guy is honest:

quote:

Overkill just act dumb, in other words you hosed up a little... But i am going to play the game anyways, because i don't have anything to do...

averox fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 27, 2016

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
You Can Run, but Not Hide

Find and secure the goat in the Firestarter heist on the OVERKILL difficulty or above.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!
I'm glad they pay enough attention to realize disabling spotting would mess up some damage output and just futzed with the special HP numbers.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Dr Cheeto posted:

You Can Run, but Not Hide

Find and secure the goat in the Firestarter heist on the OVERKILL difficulty or above.


If its not in a safety deposit box on day 3 then I just dont know what the gently caress to do with you overkill.

*edit* acceptable alternative being the ATM in the lobby

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
I'm glad to see more goats but :lol: at the specials bug

Basticle posted:

If its not in a safety deposit box on day 3 then I just dont know what the gently caress to do with you overkill.

randomized chance that it's stomping on the pile of money or dangling from the rotating sign out front

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Psion posted:

I'm glad to see more goats but :lol: at the specials bug


randomized chance that it's stomping on the pile of money or dangling from the rotating sign out front

wait is that the real answer or just your speculation

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

"Well I quit the game so obviously everyone quit the game"

In the last 30 days PD2 has been averaging just under 17,000 players online at any given time, but you know...totally dead. This game launched in 2013? Dead. Despite having more players now than it did in the month it launched, totally dead! :laugh:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
I'm guessing it's in the evidence lockup.

edit: from the name it may actually be running around the map and you have to catch it.

Literal Nazi Furry posted:

please do show me that. I've never seen people wish cloakers never made any sound and that sounds like a fun one.

Me, I think I said that. They'd still make it when charging, though.

Death Vox special unit notes:

Snipers only spawn using the greenish “murky” model. They have the same health and damage as Overkill snipers. Snipers can spawn in between assault waves, particularly in something that Bain or the intercepted police comms would call an "overwatch", which basically translates to a large set of sniper positions spawning at once. Sniper positions are generally changed to nastier or less predictable locations on DV maps.

Shields will, when not scripted to defend a position, generally attempt to close with and melee players. The time to loss of focus will also be increased, meaning breaking line of sight to make them turn away will take longer. These changes incentivize Iron Man, but can cause problems if you need to deal with a Shield combined with other enemies.

Bulldozers
can, like in Payday 1, run. They’re also completely immune to explosive damage. No LMGs, though, and no other major changes. The Thanatos will still work great on Bulldozers, but I'm hoping to create more situations where players are forced to confront them up close.
-On loud maps involving a thermal drill, Bain will sometimes announce that a "Demo Team" is going for the drill. This means a differently colored Bulldozer is going to spawn (with some escort, usually shields and blops), singlemindedly path to, and attempt to plant C4 on, the thermal drill. If they do so, and if the C4 isn't immediately defused (a hard thing to do with the Bully right there), the drill is destroyed and Bain will have to have another one flown/driven to the location, usually in an exposed place. This restarts progress on the drill. Demo Dozers have about twice as much health as normal dozers. Demo Teams are scripted such that their appearance is somewhat random, but the number of times they can spawn is fixed. You’ll never be inundated with 40 of them in a heist.

Tasers take significantly less time to down a player, so getting tased actually is tense, rather than getting downed just being an issue of whether or not you're being hit through a wall. The tasing animation will also be harder to shoot through, as in payday 1.

Cloakers no longer make the feedback sound when not charging. This should be less of an issue because by the time you're playing DV you'd usually know where they come from, anyways. Cloaker spawns will be normalized, and there will be fewer maps with inexplicable inundations of cloakers (this appears to be caused by a slapdash spawn allocation design choice when the new enemy was added). However, the game will be able to spawn a four-member cloaker team.
SWAT Turrets may spawn in different positions, and reload in about 75% of their normal time. They’re also heavily resistant to explosives and fire (no more flamethrower trick).
Captain Winters will often spawn at a scripted point in a heist to maximize the annoyance/difficulty of getting to him. His defense position may be changed or even randomly selected between locations to increase exposure.
He and his unit will be majorly resistant to fire and explosions. His booster effect and health will be unchanged.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jan 27, 2016

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

quote:

people are still complaining about the safes and drills ? wow ...

quote:

people be acting like 8yo boys lol

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
DLC effortpost now covers goat simulator DLC.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

Dr Cheeto posted:

They're really easy to blitz if you've got the C4, and I'd never attempt one without a saw. Picking boxes is miserable.

I'm 99% sure I did a DW transport (Crossroads, maybe?) with Samarix to get an achievement for two other goons. I'm pretty sure we didn't bring a saw or C4. It was... an experience. I'd probably do it again, though.

oohhboy posted:

AT heists are great to get that High Speed Low Drag feeling. It's a slight shame it requires so much special equipment.

It's unfortunate that not many heists capture this. If you do Firestarter day 2 in a certain manner, though, it gives a similar feeling. Done correctly, you roll out the front door just as the cops are starting to show up.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

LuciferMorningstar posted:

I'm 99% sure I did a DW transport (Crossroads, maybe?) with Samarix to get an achievement for two other goons. I'm pretty sure we didn't bring a saw or C4. It was... an experience. I'd probably do it again, though.

Man I remember when I got to drag some goons along for DW ATs before the rebalances. I brought a saw and a loco because I was the saw guy. God drat those were some butt clenching times.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!

Dr Cheeto posted:

You Can Run, but Not Hide

Find and secure the goat in the Firestarter heist on the OVERKILL difficulty or above.

I like to think this achievement is directed at the players, rather than the goat. Avoiding Goat Sim by playing Firestarter? SURPRISE, A GOAT!

Add goats to all heists, Overkill.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
It's really loving weird to think about the game without screaming poo poo. Almost makes me scared they'll temporarily take away clicking because LOD nonsense, but hey, it should be different now enough to play it again.

But at least pubbie bitching never changes!

Malidictus posted:

Oh, boy... You're not making it easy to like your game, guys.

quote:

Hours on record for PAYDAY 2, 1,481

lidl(jackie)chan posted:

NO GOAT NOT ONCE NOT NEVA

*Overkill adds a new achievement, Nowhere to Run, Nowhere to Hide, where the goat gets into other heists in the form of a safe.*:smug:

ZininEstiwar/Frink Just now posted:

It still cracks me up to see people say "gently caress Almir, gently caress Overkill" then you look and see what game they are playing and its Payday 2. Shut up people.

Wait, what?

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Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

DW ATs are pretty fun, but yeah, only if someone brings the C4 and a saw. They've got that great feeling of 'runRunRUN', because if you stay around any longer than you have to you're getting hosed. If you drill/pick, the heists are FAR too long.

Here's something I threw together a while ago (and just updated) to kinda help ease a friend into the game. Broke the heists down to A-F tiers. (Roughly equal number per tier, so 8-8-8-8-7.) It worked OK as a very rough guideline of the poo poo that should be avoided vs. what should be played.

A
Hoxton Breakout
Hotline Miami
Firestarter
Big Bank
First World Bank
Beneath the Mountain
Aftershock
Hoxton Revenge

B
Watchdogs
Santa's Workshop
Golden Grin
The Diamond
Birth of Sky
Slaughterhouse
Rats
Alesso Heist

C
Goat Simulator
Bomb: Dockyard
Train Heist
Armored Transport
Meltdown
Mallcrasher
Shadow Raid
Cook Off

D
Bank Heist
Jewelry Store
Diamond Store
GO Bank
Lab Rats
Bomb: Forest
Election Day
Nightclub

F
Car Shop
Four Stores
Art Gallery
Ukranian Job
Big Oil
Framing Frame
White XMas

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