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Typo posted:Cruz did it now we can finally have the GOP race between the the guy whose platform is that he has a big dick and the guy whose platform is that god is great Cruz would try to take advantage God for personal gain and not think twice about it. Actually that's kind of a more accurate description of his platform.
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THA TITTY THRILLER posted:More like "THE ASCENDANCE OF THE GREAT AND MIGHTY TRUMPRESIDENT DONALD, FIRST OF HIS NAME" Ya know how Caesar became a title for the Roman ruler and their successors (Kaiser, Tsar etc.) rather than a cognomen? I bet the same thing is going to happen with Trump. 2000 years from now into the Glorious Trumpenreich the ruler will just be known as the Trump whether they are descended from the Golden One's bloodline or not. There will be Trump Donald XIV for instance.
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ZoCrowes posted:Ya know how Caesar became a title for the Roman ruler and their successors (Kaiser, Tsar etc.) rather than a cognomen? I bet the same thing is going to happen with Trump. 2000 years from now into the Glorious Trumpenreich the ruler will just be known as the Trump whether they are descended from the Golden One's bloodline or not. There will be Trump Donald XIV for instance. Tough talk from an egregious stroke like yourself
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Mar 8, 2016 23:49
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I don't think it's unrealistic that if somehow Trump becomes a successful president he will replace Reagan as patron saint of the GOP for the next 30 years.
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Mar 8, 2016 23:50
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Totalizator posted:I don't think it's unrealistic that if somehow Trump becomes a successful president he will replace Reagan as patron saint of the GOP for the next 30 years. I don't think it's unrealistic if aliens come from that hidden planet in the oort zone and establish a communist utopia.
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Here's my hot prediction: glados will get elected the first female gay robot president in 2028 as a promotional campaign for portal 3.
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Mar 8, 2016 23:59
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Venom Snake posted:Here's my hot prediction: glados will get elected the first female gay robot president in 2028 as a promotional campaign for portal 3. If I have to wait that long for the next Portal game then Capitalism has failed and I would gladly vote for a robot
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Mar 9, 2016 00:01
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Venom Snake posted:Here's my hot prediction: glados will get elected the first female gay robot president in 2028 as a promotional campaign for portal 3. Does this glados have the AI module that wants to kill everyone with a deadly neurotoxin?
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Venom Snake posted:Here's my hot prediction: glados will get elected the first female gay robot president in 2028 as a promotional campaign for portal 3. Happy Noodle Boy posted:Does this glados have the AI module that wants to kill everyone with a deadly neurotoxin?
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Mar 9, 2016 00:02
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Totalizator posted:I don't think it's unrealistic that if somehow Trump becomes a successful president he will replace Reagan as patron saint of the GOP for the next 30 years. Nah, in all honesty Bush probably will. He was way to the right of Reagan, didn't have a brain that was literally turning into mush. Just give it a little bit of time, the Reagan administration will have died off, and Bush will be the one that cut taxes, kept America safe, was pro-god, pro-gun, pro-military and everyone that disagrees will just be not remembering him correctly, just like Reagan.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:03
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The only thing you need to know about Donald Trump's insecurity about his net worth is this; when doing the Comedy Central roast, every roastee gets to pick a topic that is off limits and nobody is allowed to make a joke about it. For Joan Rivers it was her daughter, for William Shatner it was his wife drowning in the pool. Donald Trump chose that nobody was allowed to joke that he has less money than he says.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:05
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Does this glados have the AI module that wants to kill everyone with a deadly neurotoxin? Everyone has to take tests no stop but theres no unemployment and free healthcare so all in all I say GLADOS 2032 LETS KEEP TESTING.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:06
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The last NBC/WSJ had Cruz 28, Trump 26 4 days before South Carolina. Trump has beaten Cruz 35-29% in the popular vote between SC and now.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:10
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Even Mark Levin is on the SECRET MEETING train, and he hates Trump. E: Correction, he hates Trump the candidate but likes Trump the human, unlike Glenn Beck who just hates Trump.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:15
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Al! posted:Tough talk from an egregious stroke like yourself I had a WTF moment there for a second. WHEN WORLDS/SUBFORUMS COLLIDE!
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thethreeman posted:No comment on whether he is/isn't a good businessman, but this is a really stupid/misinformed point. Those are mortgages, asset backed loans - that's how real estate development happens. Virtually nobody - GE building a manufacturing plant, federal governments developing public utilities, Trump building a casino, even private individuals who buy houses - doesn't use mortgages, because the rates are so low when there's a hard asset backing it. He may be a terrible businessman, but it's not bc he uses mortgages wow he did it again ownage of the self w thine own link
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Boosted_C5 posted:The last NBC/WSJ had Cruz 28, Trump 26 4 days before South Carolina. Trump has beaten Cruz 35-29% in the popular vote between SC and now. thank you boosted you keep my spirits high im saying a prayer for you tonight god bless
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thethreeman posted:No comment on whether he is/isn't a good businessman, but this is a really stupid/misinformed point. Those are mortgages, asset backed loans - that's how real estate development happens. Virtually nobody - GE building a manufacturing plant, federal governments developing public utilities, Trump building a casino, even private individuals who buy houses - doesn't use mortgages, because the rates are so low when there's a hard asset backing it. He may be a terrible businessman, but it's not bc he uses mortgages Three Olives basically beat me to it, but yeah - no one's saying he's a bad businessman because he uses mortgages. It's impossible to do business at that level without them. The problem is how exactly he does his accounting, and where he draws the line between his non-liquid assets and his liabilities. Besides what Three Olives said, there's also a great piece from the Washington Post last year: quote:It's that "$50,000,000 or more" category that's the curveball. It could mean that everything listed is worth $50 million -- in which case, Trump is worth $1.4 billion, minus liabilities. But there are liabilities that fall into that category, too. Maybe they're $50,000,000 a piece. Maybe they're $200 billion. Who knows? Moreover, one of his big selling points to his supporters has been that his rivals are "owned" by Wall Street because they've taken out loans from big banks. The problem is...so has he, and to a much greater degree. Top Bunk Wanker posted:You can just go on Google and type in "the trump organization holdings" and see that it is incredibly demonstrably false to say Trump really isn't even that rich. LOL, you don't understand how net worth works. 
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Mar 9, 2016 00:26
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ZoCrowes posted:I had a WTF moment there for a second. WHEN WORLDS/SUBFORUMS COLLIDE! in Internet terms, it's ancient history
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His emphasis on his opponents wall street ties has always been in terms of political donations not that the media or his audience really think in terms of donations or loans when it comes to corporations renting congresspeople
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Mar 9, 2016 00:30
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it's funny bc people think Trump is a freeman and Hillary is owned by the banks, but really the banks could ruin Trump overnight if they wanted to whereas Hillary doesn't actually need them for poo poo
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Mar 9, 2016 00:37
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Poor Jennifer Rubin is hammered drunk, keeps making typos in her tweets. https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/707349634507739136
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Mar 9, 2016 00:38
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Epic High Five posted:it's funny bc people think Trump is a freeman and Hillary is owned by the banks, but really the banks could ruin Trump overnight if they wanted to whereas Hillary doesn't actually need them for poo poo They can leak her speech transcripts any time they want.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:His emphasis on his opponents wall street ties has always been in terms of political donations I understand, but the point is, he's still as beholden to Wall Street as any of them. It may be from his "other life," but let's face the facts: it's a pretty blurry line between his life as a businessman, and his life as a presidential candidate. And when he's giving Ted Cruz a hard time for taking a $1.43 million loan from Goldman Sachs, while he himself owes hundreds of millions of dollars to them at the same time...well, I think at the very least it's a little hypocritical. More importantly, though, it's kind of emblematic of the circles of friends and acquaintances that Trump has run in throughout his career as a businessman. The culture he's been born and raised in is that of the billionaire plutocrat. So his whole "man of the people/here to serve the white working poor" routine feels maybe a little bit disingenuous.
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MaxxBot posted:Poor Jennifer Rubin is hammered drunk, keeps making typos in her tweets. Hoping for a big Trump night now.
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MaxxBot posted:Poor Jennifer Rubin is hammered drunk, keeps making typos in her tweets. P sure she is trying to be like Rubio and make fun of Trumps spelling, pathetic really. Unless I am missing the joke.
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:They can leak her speech transcripts any time they want. Not if they want to attract other high profile speakers. Any speech, that anyone gets paid to give to Wall Street probably reads 99% the same - "some of the smartest people in America are in this room" blah, blah blah.
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yeah lol I bet they'd love to leak those speeches and never be able to attract anybody beyond Carrot Top for the next 20 years It's probably just bog standard stuff that everybody in the GOP has already seen, and decided that it's better to just concern troll with them instead These speeches tend to be super boring, it's more of a status thing for the company as to who they can get. Hence why somebody with a resume like Clinton's gets paid the big bucks
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Majorian posted:I understand, but the point is, he's still as beholden to Wall Street as any of them. It may be from his "other life," but let's face the facts: it's a pretty blurry line between his life as a businessman, and his life as a presidential candidate. And when he's giving Ted Cruz a hard time for taking a $1.43 million loan from Goldman Sachs, while he himself owes hundreds of millions of dollars to them at the same time...well, I think at the very least it's a little hypocritical. But he's taking out mortgages on his buildings at the current very low prevailing rates. Cruz took out a signature loan from his wife's employer.
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Majorian posted:I understand, but the point is, he's still as beholden to Wall Street as any of them. Eh, no not quite. A loan or a mortgage is a regular tool of business where the benefit to the bank is direct in the form of interest and fees. Far different from the assumed benefit of political contributions. Big difference between "on the hook to" and "beholden to".
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TyrantWD posted:Not if they want to attract other high profile speakers. Even if they are corrupt, a politician wouldn't put anything more than brown-nosing in a speech. The real deals, when there are such things going on, I'd assume are made in the mingling after the speech.
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Majorian posted:I understand, but the point is, he's still as beholden to Wall Street as any of them. It may be from his "other life," but let's face the facts: it's a pretty blurry line between his life as a businessman, and his life as a presidential candidate. And when he's giving Ted Cruz a hard time for taking a $1.43 million loan from Goldman Sachs, while he himself owes hundreds of millions of dollars to them at the same time...well, I think at the very least it's a little hypocritical. To be fair to trump here, has there ever been a politician past 1900 who was truly "a man of the people, here to serve the working poor?"
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HapiMerchant posted:To be fair to trump here, has there ever been a politician past 1900 who was truly "a man of the people, here to serve the working poor?" :bernget:
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Apologies to Roger Zelazny: They came from all quarters, the four Regents of the GOP, come down from Capitol Hill: the Bush Clan advanced, all in gold, mounted on yellow horses, bearing shields that blazed with golden light; Cruz, the Angel of the South came on, followed by his hosts, the Tea Party Delegation, mounted upon blue steeds and bearing shields each with the insignia of a dismembered serpent; from the East rode Little Marco, whose horsemen carried shields bearing an orange tree insignia; and from the Midwest there came Kasich, whose Establishment Delegation were clad all in green and held before them shields each bearing an elaborate dollar sign insignia wrought of silver and gold. Their hooves did not appear to touch the grasses, and the only sound in the air was the music, which grew louder. "Why do the Regents of the GOP approach?" Trump found himself saying. "They come to bear my bones away," replied Cruz, still smiling. The four Regents drew rein, their hordes at their backs, and Trump faced them. "You come to bear his bones away," said Trump, "but who will come for yours?" The Regents dismounted. "You may not have this man, oh Trump," said the Regent of the Bush Clan, "for he belongs to the Party, and we of the Party will defend him." "Hear me, Regents who dwell upon Capitol Hill," said Trump, taking his Aspect upon him. "Into your hands is given the keeping of the Party, but Trump takes whom he will from out the Party, and whenever he chooses. It is not given to you to dispute my Attributes, or the ways of their working." The four Regents moved to a position between Trump and Cruz. "We do dispute your way with this one. Lord Trump. For in his hands he holds the destiny of our Party. You may touch him only after having overthrown the four Powers." "So be it," said Trump. "Which among you will be first to oppose me?" "I will," said Jeb!, drawing the Sword of Chang. Trump, his Aspect upon him, sheared through the soft metal like butter and laid the flat of his scimitar along Jeb!'s head, sending him sprawling upon the ground. A great cry came up from the ranks of the Bush Clan, and two of the golden horsemen came forward to bear away their leader. Then they turned their mounts and rode back towards Kennebunkport. "Who is next?" Little Marco came before him, bearing a straight blade of silver and a net woven of moonbeams. "I," he said, and he cast with the net. Trump set his foot upon it, caught it in his fingers, jerked the other off balance. As Rubio stumbled forward, he reversed his blade and struck him in the jaw with its pommel. Two silver warriors glared at him, then dropped their eyes, as they bore their Master away to the East, a discordant music trailing in their wake. "Next!" said Trump. Then there came before him the burly Regent of the Midwest, who threw down his weapons and stripped off his tunic, saying, "I will wrestle with you, Trump." Trump laid his weapons aside and removed his upper garments. All the while this was happening, Cruz sat in the shade of the great tree, smiling, as though the passage of arms meant nothing to him. Kasich caught Trump behind the neck with his left hand, pulling his head forward. Trump did the same to him; and the other did then twist his body, casting his right arm over Trump's left shoulder and behind his neck, locking it then tight about his head, which he now drew down hard against his hip, turning his body as he dragged the other forward. Reaching up behind the Kasich's back, Trump caught his left shoulder in his left hand and then moved his right hand behind the Regent's knees, so that he lifted both his legs off the ground while drawing back upon his shoulder. For a moment he held this one cradled in his arms like a child, then raised him up to shoulder level and dropped away his arms. When the Regent struck the ground, Trump fell upon him with his knees and rose again. The other did not. When the riders of the Midwest had departed, only the Angel of the South, clad all in blue, stood before Trump. "And you?" asked Trump, raising his weapons again. "I will not take up weapons of steel or leather or stone, as a child takes up toys, to face you, Trump. Nor will I match the strength of my body against yours, nor will I oppose you with cell phoones and Tweets" said Cruz. "I know I will be bested if I do these things, for none may dispute you with arms or social media." "Then climb back upon your blue stallion and ride away," said Trump, "if you will not fight." Cruz did not answer, but cast his blue shield into the air, so that pieces of the serpent spun and became a continuous circle, growing larger and larger as it hung above them. Then it fell to the ground and began to sink into it, without a sound, still growing as it vanished from sight, the grasses coming together again above the spot where it had struck. A slimy ooze arose at the site. From its center arose a massive and ancient looking tree. "And what does that signify?" asked Trump. "I do not actively contest. I merely poach delegates. Mine is the power of passive opposition. Mine is the power of trolling, as yours is the power of destruction. While you can destroy anything I send against you, you cannot destroy everything, oh Trump. Mine is the power of the shield, but not the sword. My slime will oppose you, Lord Trump, to defend your victim." The Blue One turned then, mounted his blue steed and rode into the South, the Tea Partiers at his back. The sound of the music did not go with him, but remained in the air he had occupied. Trump shrugged and advanced once more, his blade in his hand. "Their efforts came to naught," he said. "Your time is come." He struck forward with his blade. The blow did not land, however, as a slimy tentacle arose from the ooze between them and struck the scimitar from his grasp. He reached for it but the slimy tentacle quickly pulled the weapon beneath the surface of the ooze where it could be seen no more. Cursing, he reached for his cell phone as to release a mighty and terrible Tweet. A huge tentacle arose from the ooze, came swaying before his target, and knocked the phone from his grasp. Then it disappeared into the dark pool carrying Trump's phone far into its vasty depths. Cruz's eyes were closed in meditation and his halo glowed in the shadows. Trump took a step forward, raising his hands, and ooze rose about his ankles, holding him where he stood. He struggled for a moment, trying to pull himself free. Then he stopped and raised both hands high, throwing his head far back, death leaping from his eyes. "Hear me, oh Powers of the RNC!" he cried. "From this moment forward, this Party shall bear the curse of Trump! No living thing shall ever stir again upon this ground! No bird shall sing, nor snake slither here! It shall be barren and stark, a place of rocks and shifting sand! Not a spear of grass shall ever be upraised from here against the sky! I speak this curse and lay this doom upon the defenders of my enemy!" The dark pool of ooze began to recede, but before it had released him there came a great splintering, cracking noise, as the tree whose roots held together the GOP and in whose branches the delegates were caught, as fish in a net, swayed forward, splitting down its middle, its uppermost limbs tearing apart the sky, its roots opening chasms in the ground, its leaves falling like blue-green rain about him. A massive section of its trunk toppled toward him, casting before it a shadow dark as night. In the distance, he still saw Cruz, seated in meditation, as though unaware of the chaos that erupted about him. 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Oiled and Ready posted:Even if they are corrupt, a politician wouldn't put anything more than brown-nosing in a speech. The real deals, when there are such things going on, I'd assume are made in the mingling after the speech. Exactly. Hand out some compliments, shake hands with some rising star VPs, and then when they head off to the nearest club to order bottle service and boast about who they just met, she sits down in Lloyd Blankfein's airtight office to talk about the things that they don't want getting out in public.
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The GOP presidential primary: Little Marco came before him, bearing a straight blade of silver
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Pick posted:I understand the desire for minimal government spending as a legitimate political position (not one to which I personally subscribe, but in an academic sense). I also support the idea of a congress that represents the range of... reality-based political thought (although obviously I'd prefer it matched my views/values overall). But to me, "reality-based" means based on fact and viewed through a consistent lens. I don't understand how someone can believe that good schools matter in Iraq, but not in the United States (where, for example, Graham has voted against additional federal dollars for education). I don't understand why, to a conservative, it is apparently more important to spend money to exert influence elsewhere and not in your own backyard? Again, his rhetoric suggests he believes education matters and works, so why bleed money so that we can "stabilize" a foreign nation enough that we can build a school, but not repair the mold-infested schools of Detroit? Shageletic posted:You've just summarized the Bush years. Good job. The short answer is that the underlying tension between the two principles is unsustainable and unstable. Lindsey Graham has adopted the fiscally conservative polices domestically because that's what the modern Republican party calls dogma, and deviating from that is likely to get you disowned or primaried, especially in South Carolina. On the foreign front Lindsey Graham has more sensible policies, because somewhere in his mind he probably knows those policies are generally effective. Unfortunately he hasn't (and likely will not) reconcile these two contradictory things. It's actually somewhat sad, since Lindsey Graham is a prime example of a Republican you could actually negotiate with.
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Just like the story, spooky.
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