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Huge_Midget
Jun 6, 2002

I don't like the look of it...
I'm seriously starting to think that at this point we might as well stop logging in for a month or two. Let r/eve have their orgy of terrible posting, let PL smug off for the Alliance Tournament, and let them grow complacent thinking we've packed up and headed off for greener pastures. Then in a few months we come back, retake Deklein and the surrounding regions, and go back to skullfucking CO2 and the rest of these shitlers once they are infighting over the spoils of war.

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Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

he also did a dumb thing

If I, an unimportant idiot doing nothing in the game outside of pushing buttons in the client on occasion before logging off, have heard that dumb thing myself like probably four different times in passing while shooting the poo poo in Elysium, then holy lol if the other side didn't know already...

Super.Jesus
Oct 20, 2011

Orange Red Bull posted:

For future reference: Dadbuck, Dragonstalking, Daruna, Youtuber, jeffraider, avatarwin, kiresays, SperginMcbadposter, Unfunny Poster, Endie, Xolve, Kimsemus and TopGoon[555] are all in the enemy videogame guild and may make frivolous reports. Probably not Endie or Unfunny poster.

Goddamn theres a lot of you :10bux:

From a vacationer perspective it seems like we lost a lot of those posters to the enemy quite recently, no?

Bonfire Lit
Jul 9, 2008

If you're one of the sinners who caused this please unfriend me now.

if by "a lot" you mean "one" then yes

Sixx Spades
Aug 16, 2013

evilweasel posted:

There have been, we had to ban a guy out of GSF for his own loving good after we discovered (due to a loan default) he'd gambled away every isk he had, borrowed more, and was spending all his disposable income on plex to gamble more. Might have even been more than his disposible income and he was actually gambling away his rent to try to win loving isk.

It was more. He did a gofundme for his wife's medical expenses. It turned out as you expected.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

evilweasel posted:

There have been, we had to ban a guy out of GSF for his own loving good after we discovered (due to a loan default) he'd gambled away every isk he had, borrowed more, and was spending all his disposable income on plex to gamble more. Might have even been more than his disposible income and he was actually gambling away his rent to try to win loving isk.

Yeah if GSF seriously had wanted to take on IWI and other gambling stuff it probably would have been a decent idea to try and shop a story about CCP facilitating gambling addiction and not the other stuff that was done.

Hey maybe I should actually try and do this because I bet maybe kotaku or wired or whoever would probably be decently interested in a videogame company having ill-gotten gains.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Eonwe posted:

i think vyst is actually ok, kind of bizarre that he tries now for a sick burn tho

I think you pick some good battles, and some not so good ones ITT. But I don't hate you or dislike you but doesn't mean I won't call some things as I see them (even if my opinion is lovely and wrong). Just post, etc.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

because very serious things are said in local you nitwit.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Duzzy Funlop posted:

If I, an unimportant idiot doing nothing in the game outside of pushing buttons in the client on occasion before logging off, have heard that dumb thing myself like probably four different times in passing while shooting the poo poo in Elysium, then holy lol if the other side didn't know already...

you know as well as i do that's not at all relevant

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

vyst posted:

Just post, etc.

agreed

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

vyst posted:

Oh no way. Iseeyouseemeseeyou. You're good people

:sun:

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

You seemed to have traded up nicely, even if you didn't go SNIGG#1 (traitor).

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
why wasn't the fall of a tyrant article posted on TMC? it would have blown people's minds

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Nietzschean posted:

Are you as much a :shobon: newbie as you sound? If so, what's your eveguy so I can send isku

:3: my evedood is Mauris Kado, no need to send me isk but feel free to hit me up if you want to go die horribly in frigates or something. Assuming you're in GSF, I'm still figuring out who is who. If not you can still come and kill me in a frigate I guess!

Speaking of, while I wait for my pubbie courier contract to be delivered to bumfuck lowsec, the Space Police have arrived in Saranen.



SIR YOU CANNOT PARK THAT COMMAND DESTROYER HERE

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
nietzschean is lyris

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

oh gently caress did i forget to move my spacepolice skins

edit: oh, i bet i can just apply them to characters from wherever, right?

mpaarating
May 6, 2011

The Baddest Boi
Did Tib say the N word? I bet he did. I like tib, but he needs to not say the n word and frankly I'm appalled that directors kicked kismeteer. I'm sure that he was just doing his best to pursue social justice. Eve Is Real after all. Not acknowledging this is simply encouraging the white privilege that has been eating GSF from the inside out for years.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

evilweasel posted:

oh gently caress did i forget to move my spacepolice skins

edit: oh, i bet i can just apply them to characters from wherever, right?

You can, yes.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

evilweasel posted:

oh gently caress did i forget to move my spacepolice skins

edit: oh, i bet i can just apply them to characters from wherever, right?

i assume it works the same as plex

are there any really cool skins? I'll probably buy a spacepolice cause it's cheap, I'd like some other baller ones for my frigs as well if possible

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



evilweasel posted:

oh gently caress did i forget to move my spacepolice skins

edit: oh, i bet i can just apply them to characters from wherever, right?

yep!

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Xolve posted:

You seemed to have traded up nicely, even if you didn't go SNIGG#1 (traitor).

SNIGG sucks.

evilweasel posted:

oh gently caress did i forget to move my spacepolice skins

edit: oh, i bet i can just apply them to characters from wherever, right?

Yes you can apply them from anywhere.

mpaarating posted:

Did Tib say the N word? I bet he did. I like tib, but he needs to not say the n word and frankly I'm appalled that directors kicked kismeteer. I'm sure that he was just doing his best to pursue social justice. Eve Is Real after all. Not acknowledging this is simply encouraging the white privilege that has been eating GSF from the inside out for years.

Last I heard there was a mumble channel called "Niggertown" on GSF's EVE mumble.

Might have gotten changed though.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

mpaarating posted:

Did Tib say the N word? I bet he did. I like tib, but he needs to not say the n word and frankly I'm appalled that directors kicked kismeteer. I'm sure that he was just doing his best to pursue social justice. Eve Is Real after all. Not acknowledging this is simply encouraging the white privilege that has been eating GSF from the inside out for years.

Long live blackops

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Landsknecht posted:

i assume it works the same as plex

are there any really cool skins? I'll probably buy a spacepolice cause it's cheap, I'd like some other baller ones for my frigs as well if possible

besides the spacepolice skin, i think the only ones worth even mentioning are the supercapital ones because they're just another layer of paint on your blinged out autism chariot

sadly, most of the supercapital ones are loving hideous or boring as hell

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

evilweasel posted:

besides the spacepolice skin, i think the only ones worth even mentioning are the supercapital ones because they're just another layer of paint on your blinged out autism chariot

sadly, most of the supercapital ones are loving hideous or boring as hell

the quafe skins are good

hell, a lot of skins are good

Samiz
Sep 10, 2013
I was looking forward to actually have a game I can play with goons but now everything seems to go to poo poo...

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Xolve posted:



Coalitions shouldn't be able to hold 5-6 regions of space.

This is exactly what you are trying to do though. So, which is it?

Daruna
Jul 3, 2011

vyst posted:

At least Dirk Action does it as a troll instead of being unironically Hitler youth

wat

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Samiz posted:

I was looking forward to actually have a game I can play with goons but now everything seems to go to poo poo...

Join groon?

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


RainMaker posted:

That name was pretty loving gay from the beginning.

For the record: Checkbox Coalition won :colbert:

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013
I'm just a random line member and bad poster but here are what I think about the current debacle.


Low morale
Burned out line members, bored of having to jump through 25 empty blue systems to fight.
Borded out supercap pilot, never using their toys and unsubbing or joining other entities. Supercapitals ships have been mass produced for a while and yet, were rarely used.


Complaisance
Downplaying reddit circlejerk, we should have used counter propaganda, vote brigading, etc.. As soon as it had reached critical mass and PL joined the fray it was over. They enjoy a very good image and acted as a beacon that caused even more pubbies to dogpile on us.
Not sounding the horn of goondor before it was too late and not making enough efforts to make the vets resub.
Not suggesting to members to evac their poo poo when the enemy was advancing.


Image crisis
Perhaps the biggest issue.

The imperium rebranding and kickstarter were terrible. People were barely getting over the TMC “rmt affair” and if there is one thing that people hate, it’s RMT.
Stagnation was bad, since there were no war, the CFC was tagged “carebear alliance” by many. This doesn’t help to attract many people looking to PVP.
Many stupid rumors such as people never fighting unless forced by paps requirements, people forced to pay 10$/month, people forced to watch various twitch Streams for paps, funding code (pubbies hate them) and plenty more. This make the alliance looks “uncool”. On the other hand, Pandemic Legion as the resident “elite pro tryhard guild” enjoy a terrific reputation. Their offspring: Waffle and Pandemic Horde, do benefit from that and it helps boost their recruitment both in quantity and quality.
Also whining about CCP being dicks toward the Imperium. In 2016 people actually like them. Personal attacks on people being Mentaly Ill or doxed or RMT lords of whatever are also petty and inspire disdain.

I think the Imperium/CFC want to remain a big power it should seriously work on its image. Industry grade organization, lack of drama, services, space socialism and opportunities to participate in every kind of gameplay offered by EVE should be advertised more. Probably implied rather than advertised.
TLDR: Hire a Head of Communication




Also lol if you think people will just leave Deklein. PL and other Super Hunter will always keep a HIC logged in every system and a sizable super fleet around for months, especialy since you can know keep subbed accounts. There are hundreds of whales logged off that await being turned into juicy killmails. And the likes of TEST will live there just to make a point, they will need to be subtly dispatched as not to attract the Pubbies Voltron.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Samiz posted:

I was looking forward to actually have a game I can play with goons but now everything seems to go to poo poo...

If you mean strategically there's no better time to get involved than when everything is going to poo poo, especially as a newbie.

If you mean culturally, it's always like this, for better or worse.

Samiz
Sep 10, 2013

Things looking better there? Haven't finished all agents yet though so will still be a while before I join

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

yeah man mistakes were made

i think what people forget about eve is that it's just a game and there's a lot of competing offerings; although some people really get sucked in (myself included), lots of people seem to play a while then ditch eve for other offerings, especially if their own organization is screwing up

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
No matter who you join you should get out of highsec as soon as possible.

Daruna
Jul 3, 2011

Huge_Midget posted:

I'm seriously starting to think that at this point we might as well stop logging in for a month or two. Let r/eve have their orgy of terrible posting, let PL smug off for the Alliance Tournament, and let them grow complacent thinking we've packed up and headed off for greener pastures. Then in a few months we come back, retake Deklein and the surrounding regions, and go back to skullfucking CO2 and the rest of these shitlers once they are infighting over the spoils of war.

it's funny you think we (PL for sure, NCdot 99% too) are at all leaving the Deklein area.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

VideoGames posted:

Here is something I think might make you all laugh!



Birth of the new goonfleet right here.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

No matter who you join you should get out of highsec as soon as possible.

I really like lowsec for more of a take-it-easy atmosphere; people don't blob up as much, and there's decent options for pvp and pve

Samiz
Sep 10, 2013

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

No matter who you join you should get out of highsec as soon as possible.

I will do so as soon as I've finished the agents! That's where all the fun happens!

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Huge_Midget posted:

I'm seriously starting to think that at this point we might as well stop logging in for a month or two. Let r/eve have their orgy of terrible posting, let PL smug off for the Alliance Tournament, and let them grow complacent thinking we've packed up and headed off for greener pastures. Then in a few months we come back, retake Deklein and the surrounding regions, and go back to skullfucking CO2 and the rest of these shitlers once they are infighting over the spoils of war.

fozziesov makes it virtually effort-free to take away a region not being defended at all, you want to maximize the effort they have to put in while minimizing your own

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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

im more upset that i didnt think of the eve casino idea first. whether iwantisk guy is doing it or not (of course he is), he could turn that into a steady supply of real dollars pretty easily

didnt some russian guy get caught using eve for low level money laundering or something?

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