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Regarding the pallbearer thing: Yeah, Peggy dies midway through, not connected to the main events of the film.
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I would assume she dies because she'd be like 90-something by now.
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Codependent Poster posted:Apparently the airport scene is exciting and inventive, so I dunno what you're going on about Not what I saw. What is happening in the scene looks better than the average action scene in Avengers, slightly, because it's less floaty and cut better. The action beats are timed better, so that, when say, Spider-man grabs Cap with his webs, it immediately cuts to the next action of him pulling as opposed to holding on it for too long and making that action less visceral. But the framing is dull, the use of depth and background is nonexistent, and the lighting is extremely flat. It's pretty much the same as the officially released Black Panther/Winter Soldier/Iron Man/etc. scene only with less movement, so it comes off as extremely dull when watching (to me). So, in other words, it's not shot as good as a Spartacus action sequence, but a bit better than one in Arrow. And, my question was that i don't understand why this is the case in a movie of this magnitude that focuses on scenes like this.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 14:38 |
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Whizbang posted:King T'chaka, The Starks, and The Winter Soldier all get murdered. Actually that's not entirely correct, Winter Soldier survives the film. Crossbones bites it in the opening scene. Darko posted:So, in other words, it's not shot as good as a Spartacus action sequence, but a bit better than one in Arrow. And, my question was that i don't understand why this is the case in a movie of this magnitude that focuses on scenes like this. But the quips and the character reveals were great!
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 15:31 |
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The big question for me is whether Civil War is better than Deadpool. Either way, looking like a good year for comic book movies.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 16:57 |
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Phylodox posted:The big question for me is whether Civil War is better than Deadpool. The guys I saw Civil War with were having this exact discussion after the film. Edit: I should note that one of the guys is a turbonerd who has spent thousands and thousands getting a near complete collection of the classic Avengers comics and he was siding with Deadpool. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Phylodox posted:Either way, looking like a good year for comic book movies. Yeah, word
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It's definitely enjoyable and has a couple good laughs (Falcon + Bucky buddy movie please), but I don't think it tops Deadpool. Having so many characters running around, each with their own motivations and history, just makes it a less refined movie. It's hard to compete with a fresh debut. And why it's awesome to see the heroes clashing, it still all feels bit silly and forced. I'm glad that they at least acknowledge that some of them are holding back. Well, except for the final fight. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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I think I'm comfortable calling Deadpool the winner of 2016. Even if a better movie comes out, for Deadpool to have been as good and successful as it was despite everything it had going against it puts it over the top. It's like a paraplegic winning a silver medal in the able-bodied Olympics.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 17:39 |
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Phylodox posted:It's like a paraplegic winning a silver medal in the able-bodied Olympics. It's the Oscar Pistorius of films!!! No wait
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's the Oscar Pistorius of films!!! I avoided an amputee analogy for a reason.
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Phylodox posted:I think I'm comfortable calling Deadpool the winner of 2016. Even if a better movie comes out, for Deadpool to have been as good and successful as it was despite everything it had going against it puts it over the top. It's like a paraplegic winning a silver medal in the able-bodied Olympics. This seems to me like the same line of argument as the "Marvel made a movie about a talking raccoon successful!" meme. Like, the biggest thing was that it was R-rated, I guess the second was that he isn't a recognizable A-lister. But I honestly don't think name recognition even matters anymore at this point, and it had a brilliant marketing campaign driven by a pretty rabid fan base who plastered that poo poo all over social media.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 18:02 |
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Avatar was successful because of unobtanium.
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Guy A. Person posted:This seems to me like the same line of argument as the "Marvel made a movie about a talking raccoon successful!" meme. Like, the biggest thing was that it was R-rated, I guess the second was that he isn't a recognizable A-lister. But I honestly don't think name recognition even matters anymore at this point, and it had a brilliant marketing campaign driven by a pretty rabid fan base who plastered that poo poo all over social media. It was also, you know, enjoyable. That might have helped too.
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Spun Dog posted:It was also, you know, enjoyable. That might have helped too. Josh Lyman posted:Avatar was successful because of unobtanium.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:But the quips and the character reveals were great! That poo poo surprisingly goes a long way.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'd maintain that all those people are pretty big stars and that your argument doesn't hold. Listen we can talk about this in circles forever unless we can get some metrics in here. I argued that Marvel has a habit of hiring actors that were not at the tier that Jennifer Lawrence is now, then growing them into the high tier actors demanding big pay-checks subsequently.. Jennifer Lawrence is the highest paid actress today: http://www.vogue.com/13296895/jennifer-lawrence-highest-paid-actress-world/ Here is an article mentioning the highest paid actors and actresses in 2008: http://extratv.com/2008/01/01/hollywoods-highest-paid-actors/ Johanson is about sixth in the list of highest paid actresses. I'm not trying to talk about the quality of these people, but how much they cost Marvel to hire. And I would still maintain, despite Marvel's recent loosening of the purse strings, that the go to move is to inculcate less than highly appreciated actors inhouse. EDIT: There are numerous articles out there circa 2008 that has Feige and Perlmetter supposedly saying as much. Its why Downey had to strongarm the company into paying his fellow castmates a comparable wage to his own.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 21:16 |
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Speaking proportionally, Deadpool is flat out the best comic book film of 2016.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 22:55 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Actually that's not entirely correct, Winter Soldier survives the film. Crossbones bites it in the opening scene. I'm talking about the human popsicles that Zemo kills, not Bucky.
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Scyantific posted:Speaking proportionally, Deadpool is flat out the best comic book film of 2016. Deadpool is a lot like Guardians of the Galaxy, in that it's a really fun movie to watch once and which nobody will be talking about a year from now.
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Wheeee posted:Deadpool is a lot like Guardians of the Galaxy, in that it's a really fun movie to watch once and which nobody will be talking about a year from now. so, like all comic book movies
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Wheeee posted:Deadpool is a lot like Guardians of the Galaxy, in that it's a really fun movie to watch once and which nobody will be talking about a year from now. Pretty much see deadpool twice it got less funney and kinda became boring.
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MinibarMatchman posted:so, like all comic book movies I think about "Spider-Man stole that guy's pizza!" On a daily basis.
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net cafe scandal posted:I think about "Spider-Man stole that guy's pizza!" On a daily basis. Well, yeah, because it's fuckin Spider-Man 2, a movie that's good enough to still be talking about a decade plus later.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 00:35 |
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Woah! ...he stole that guy's Pizzas!
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 00:37 |
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Man of Steel is pretty enduring. Most Superman films have been really (except for III). The Nolan stuff as well.
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Danger posted:Man of Steel is pretty enduring. Most Superman films have been really (except for III). The Nolan stuff as well. I would say except for IV, III has got some stuff going on.
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Greataval posted:Pretty much see deadpool twice it got less funney and kinda became boring. Hey, I saw Deadpool four times and it was still funny, I am also a nerd that loves the good comics of him.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 00:45 |
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DC and Marvel should team up for a Lex Luthor vs. Spidey, cake vs. pie stealing contest film.
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Whizbang posted:DC and Marvel should team up for a Lex Luthor vs. Spidey, cake vs. pie stealing contest film. "I swear, that's just lemon filling! What's the matter?"
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Danger posted:Man of Steel is pretty enduring. Most Superman films have been really (except for III). The Nolan stuff as well. Man of Steel kicked me in the nuts with how good it was during my recent MoS-BvS double feature. I'm probably going to be watching it quite a lot in the coming years, and that's really weird to think about considering I previously hated it like folks hate BvS.
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Wheeee posted:Deadpool is a lot like Guardians of the Galaxy, in that it's a really fun movie to watch once and which nobody will be talking about a year from now. But yeah, can't imagine rewatching Deadpool.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:01 |
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It's the opposite for me, I couldn't stand my second watching of MoS, but I watch GOTG almost once a month.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:06 |
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I'm a broken human being but I didn't care for majority of the humor in Deadpool. For comparisons sake, I also don't care for any of the comedy in Lord and Miller films.
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Whizbang posted:DC and Marvel should team up for a Lex Luthor vs. Spidey, cake vs. pie stealing contest film. There was a really awesome comic where Kingpin teams up with Ra's Al Ghul to fight Spider-man and Batman.
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Mordiceius posted:I'm a broken human being but I didn't care for majority of the humor in Deadpool. It's a very similar style of humor between the two, so probably just not your bag, not indicative of you being a broken human being. You'd be a broken human being if you liked no comedy, or if you hated Lord/Miller stuff and Deadpool but loved Larry the Cable Guy or something.
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Danger posted:Man of Steel is pretty enduring. Most Superman films have been really (except for III). The Nolan stuff as well. Returning to Watchmen after 8 years(!) of Marvel was revelatory.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:It's a very similar style of humor between the two, so probably just not your bag, not indicative of you being a broken human being. You'd be a broken human being if you liked no comedy, or if you hated Lord/Miller stuff and Deadpool but loved Larry the Cable Guy or something. Yeah. Most people just think I'm broken when I explain that I thought the Lego movies was dull and one of the least funny things I've ever seen. I think I've just kind of come to a point where I don't like films that are a comedic focus. Whereas I love the comedy bits throughout Guy Richie films or Alexander Payne films.
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Mordiceius posted:Yeah. Most people just think I'm broken when I explain that I thought the Lego movies was dull and one of the least funny things I've ever seen. Did u like 21 Jump Street? Cuz I thought that was rly funny but I feel the same way about the Lego movie
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Yeah, I still think of Guardians of the Galaxy all the time, and I'm reasonably sure I'll be enjoying Deadpool for years to come, whereas I literally never think of Man of Steel outside of this thread. I guess different people just like different things.
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