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Miftan posted:I got an email saying it's being processed and I'll get another when it's approved I can't remember if I entered my personal hotmail address or the Gmail address associated to my phone/Google account. Either or, both mailboxes point to my email app. So I'm sure I'll find out soon enough
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Pedricko posted:So, I've just spent my £25 to get my vote in the Labour leadership, do I wait for something in the post? I didn't even get an email confirmation You should have got an email confirmation from supporter_applications@labour.org.uk. Check your spam etc.
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So how can we prevent Labour suspending every CLP that supports Corbyn?
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Guavanaut posted:loving Labour radicals. Someone should alert PREVENT.
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CoolCab posted:They probably aren't that fussed about debt in the abstract (well, I'm sure some are, but in general) but if you justify spending cuts for something that both demonstratively does not work AND in the face of evidence you double down on that creates a public backlash and makes their long term goals less achievable (ie tax credits). I agree they would have been happy to let him keep going if it was working: it wasn't, they were forced into several embarrassing backdowns and long-grass-kicking exercises recently. Weaponised incompetence has been the hallmark of this government.
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Yinlock posted:I remember my really good Grade 5 teacher who taught us to "think about the stuff you're about to do" in the most hilariously cruel way. lol my math teacher did the same thing
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jabby posted:So how can we prevent Labour suspending every CLP that supports Corbyn? In a practical sense, if Corbyn wins this leadership contest and the fight over the NEC then that's pretty disastrous for his opponents
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nothing to seehere posted:Who, exactly, is the official responsible for suspending all these CLPs? And how could we replace them? The Labour NEC, and you can replace them by voting for the CLGA slate for NEC (you should have got an email if you're a party member) - that's Black, Shawcroft, Webbe, Williams, Willsman, Wolfson. Other ways you can influence the composition of NEC are by voting for Corbyn, and by getting involved in union politics (unions have delegates on the NEC).
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MrL_JaKiri posted:In a practical sense, if Corbyn wins this leadership contest and the fight over the NEC then that's pretty disastrous for his opponents Doesn't suspending a CLP remove it's ability to nominate delegates to conference though? This seems like not just an attempt to prevent deselection moves but also to stuff conference with supporters of the PLP.
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jabby posted:Doesn't suspending a CLP remove it's ability to nominate delegates to conference though? This seems like not just an attempt to prevent deselection moves but also to stuff conference with supporters of the PLP. This was (one of the) points of preventing CLP meetings for the duration of the campaign. Means conference delegates will be appointed by execs, who are to the right of membership.
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ronya posted:china was in the news for using a shanghai-only sample, but i haven't heard of japan or singapore gaming the rankings If you think that Japan, the only country in the world to officially have a 100% literacy rate while at the same time teaching children how to read until the age of 18 and having a healthy percentage of leavers at 16, the country with simultanously the lowest official mental illness rates and highest suicide rates, the country that has managed to simultanously not see a drop in average wages over 20 years while at the same time seeing about 1/3 of people under 45 in unstable low-hours part time work, would see a set of tests or statistics and NOT fiddle as hard as possible you're so bad at pattern recognition you were probably educated in the Chinese system.
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Do you think they'll try to parachute Eagle into a different seat at the next election? I don't see the Wallasey CLP forgetting all this bullshit. I don't think they have anyway of forcing them to accept her.
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OvineYeast posted:This was (one of the) points of preventing CLP meetings for the duration of the campaign. Means conference delegates will be appointed by execs, who are to the right of membership. Doesn't the wording of the suspension mean that AGMs and their associated motions should be pushed to the end of the suspension period rather than simply being overridden entirely? So even if conference delegates are appointed by fiat it ought to be only an interim measure until a proper vote can be held?
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Ersatz posted:Good thing then that the plan is to adopt a Chinese-style approach to teaching maths, and that the teaching approach for every other subject will be unaffected. the chinese are loving awful at maths in uk universities
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Helen Highwater posted:Good to see UKIP keeping up the insane rhetoric. Well isn't he just a barrel of laughs
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Spangly A posted:the chinese are loving awful at maths in uk universities imo english tuition is loving atrocious in China so a lot of them come here drastically overestimating how well they'll be able to keep up with lectures and other course content that is, exclusively, in english. but that's just a flippant opinion as to why chinese students don't do as well in uk universities.
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Helen Highwater posted:Good to see UKIP keeping up the insane rhetoric. reported to the met as a hate crime, encourage others to do the same. took five minutes
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May has been doing very well as leader.
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From ahead, with Corbyn as leader, to 11 points behind. Good job on the coup guys.
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qhat posted:imo english tuition is loving atrocious in China so a lot of them come here drastically overestimating how well they'll be able to keep up with lectures and other course content that is, exclusively, in english. but that's just a flippant opinion as to why chinese students don't do as well in uk universities. english fluent chinese are bad at maths because they arent taught how to do it. It was over a few papers last year, there's a really strong signal for their grade average being so much lower than the norm. The papers seemed to take the view that the english do a lot of their work drunk in pubs, and socialise for coursework better. The actual answer is chinese educated children are terrible at maths
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that big bump isn't surprising at all, may has been presented (by political journalists who have apparently completely forgotten cameron positioned himself the same way) as calm, fair and sensible during a period of wild instability and farage has left the leadership position of ukip leaving them with gently caress all prominent figures
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jabby posted:From ahead, with Corbyn as leader, to 11 points behind. Don't worry, when we've got our bland lobbyist leader in place having forced a public party implosion in the midst of a national crisis they will realize how electable we are
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jiggerypokery posted:How do you go about getting your MP deselected? Do you have to petition the party in question? Rally? Attend local meetings and hurl abuse? Rules may vary between CLPs. Consult your local party.
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The Guardian has pretty much become "I am offended  " the newspaper, every political opinion piece is garbage based in centrist liberalism, and every non-political opinion piece is just clickbait drivel. I'm think I'm going to start an experiment, where I actively avoid news media for a week. I may actually feel relatively happy for the first time in ages as a result.Lord of the Llamas posted:Rules may vary between CLPs. Consult your local party. The rule is do as your PLP overlords demand, or your CLP will be suspended.
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The Tories have come through the last three months somehow looking like the sensible, calm, orderly party that has a plan and knows exactly what it is doing, it is mind-boggling how they've managed to organise themselves so so so much better than Labour. Do you remember in the tail end of Hague/Howard/IDS era when the Tories looked useless to swing voters and Labour strolled it? We're definitely on the other side of that fence now.
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haha wait "if there was an election tomorrow" is the question? not "who do you intend to vote for at the next general election?"
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Spangly A posted:english fluent chinese are bad at maths because they arent taught how to do it. It was over a few papers last year, there's a really strong signal for their grade average being so much lower than the norm. Anyway, I don't know if things have changed in 15 years or so but my experience is there are a whoole lot of loving awful primary/secondary teachers in the UK teaching maths. Might have something to do with not having the money to train people up properly/employ people who actually know what they are talking about.
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There's a big difference between being able to recite and recall things well and actually understanding why you are doing those things, and how they work. The announced plans, however, stink of "do something so we can generate positive or neutral newsprint on our schools policies with no real effort or risk rather than have them examine the omnishambles thicky left behind"Guavanaut posted:I wonder how fast the fuzz would come down if there were similar calls coming from the left, no matter how serious, considering that joking about throwing water balloons at a torch is considered left wing terrorism. If I had the time, it would be interesting to hunt out a bunch of offensive posts from various groups and report them to try and hunt out a bias in fb's own report system, but with regards the police? When I was more heavily involved in trolling fash types there were some posts that I did take the time to pass onto the cops as they were specific threats to people- bar a single generic "thankyou for your report" email I never heard a thing back. qhat posted:Well isn't he just a barrel of laughs Naw, he's just a man who seems to enjoy the thought of some quiet gardening.
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qhat posted:imo english tuition is loving atrocious in China so a lot of them come here drastically overestimating how well they'll be able to keep up with lectures and other course content that is, exclusively, in english. but that's just a flippant opinion as to why chinese students don't do as well in uk universities. I suspect it's in part because there are a lot of Chinese people here and so it's easy for them to socialise mainly within a culturally familiar group that speaks their language, in the manner of expats everywhere. But I've also worked with some really good Chinese mathematicians and scientists, and there is some excellent scientific literature coming out of the country (although I think the quality is pretty variable). Also I attended a talk from a visiting Chinese scientist who introduced us to the mathematical concept of a hypersausage. He really looked confused as to why his audience all seemed to be trying not to crack up whenever he mentioned it. Then halfway through the talk he mentioned a related construct, the supersausage...
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jiggerypokery posted:How do you go about getting your MP deselected? Do you have to petition the party in question? Rally? Attend local meetings and hurl abuse? First step is fly posting https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/754628497071570944
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The most interesting part of the new YouGov poll is that for all the guff about UKIP gunning for Northern seats, they're within the margin of error of being pushed into fourth. The Tories being second in Scotland even considering the MoE is interesting too.
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/755752584904839168 Not quite. Lib Dems are only up 1% from GE result and actually have the most fragile vote (56% retention vs 76% Lab and 90% Con) which is amazing considering they hit 8% at the GE. It's not surprising Con retention is sky high when you consider the May takeover Thatcher mega nostalgia effect. It's clear Labour are still hurting from UKIP and are getting less of those voters back than the Tories. The real question is whether or not politics is unpredictable enough that the weightings are invalid (we already saw low socioeconomic status and youth vote underestimated in EURef)? Labour leads 47-21 amongst 18-24s and 36-29 amongst 25-49s. If brexity poor people are going to be less prone to turnout but the younger more remain/Labour leaning demographic turns out in protest at brexit/Tories then there could be a surprise in store. Also if all the 65+ mega Tories die of old age.
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