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Pakled posted:I preferred Clinton's poll. You just know Trump has seen this and he HATES it
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TheGreyGhost posted:Serious question, how in the gently caress would a questionnaire stop anything? Like, do they not get that people could spoof that even more easily than any type of official ID, background check, or documentation? Which we already do no less. Hell, I would think we would have freeper types bitching about how they'll just TAQIYAAA through the survey so they can get in and harm us from the inside. Like, who is looking at this going "okay, he didn't have me before. but this new vetting procedure has me". Yes but, it's the same as The Wall; a simplistic solution to a complex problem that will never be done.
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BiohazrD posted:It would also help if either of them were funny. Oh poo poo that's a hot take! Honestly, I think Wilmore had a much weaker crew of correspondents around him (or perhaps was not able to corral, lead, and mentor them as Stewart was able too). I remember thinking at times that it seemed more like a bunch of high school friends make a comedy sketch than serious attempts at satire. Boon fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U I'm at a total loss of words with this.
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Radish posted:Conservative ideas never solve anything. They either a) funnel money into a rich backer/cut their taxes, b) are a feel good measure that sounds good when summarized as glibly as possible but is actually terrible or unfeasible if you think about it for a second, or c) both. Trump hasn't thought about any of his dumbass proposals for more than a minute. It's literally the Brexit strategy but it looks like minorities are going to save us from our idiot white people. Well, yeah. Actually solving things is hard. Reacting in a way that seems to fit ideology and blindly hurts the Other is piss easy and draws in the uneducated and/or fearful. Even if it harms them, it'll still get votes from people dazzled by the way to fits their biases, plays into their egos, and spites those different. Most of all, it's incredibly simple which plays into the idea that they know how to "fix" the world if only they were listened to without the need of fancy, elitist learning, priming them to reject complexity more so they'll be easier dupes next time. Scent of Worf posted:
Dumb white racists love dumb white racist strongman is a pretty easy analysis. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Crows Turn Off posted:Which Clinton policies even closely resemble Trump's? I can't think of a single one. They both endorse "More Money for Us." Only Trump adds the "gently caress You." E: Then Trump takes out his sharpie and scribbles out "Us," changing it to "Me." Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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theflyingorc posted:So, this is the first election where I've actually agreed with the radicals saying "the media is favoring one candidate over another", because I think the networks are actually trying to not get Trump elected. See I don't know if it's really Trump-specific. They always wind up establishing positive/negative narratives about each candidate, and focus in on things that fit those narratives. I remember them calling Gore a serial exaggerator and spending days on real or perceived Gore lies/exaggerations. Plus a lot of this is just Trump not being able to walk stuff back in a timely and orderly fashion. Like normally, the candidate steps in it, media push on "that's kinda offensive" or "that's BS", and that push is met and parried by a campaign response, leaving it up to paid media from the opponent to actually gain more than a tiny amount of ground on the issue. But that's just not happening with Trump, because (a) his Rapid Response sucks because it's like 2 dudes trying to do the job of a whole team, (b) his surrogates are trash-tier and/or amateurs who don't know basic facts about recent history or about their campaign, (c) his campaign is never on the same page on things, and (d) his ego won't let him say some of the stuff he needs to say, or just hide while it blows over. The end result is that instead of the media push being stalled by the campaign response, the media push breaks through and when journalists sense blood in the water they keep going. Finally, remember that Trump has been brazenly attacking the media from the get-go - "never pick a fight with a man who buys ink by the barrel" as they say. zoux posted:Oh buddy this survey the Trump campaign sent out. That's not even kinda subtle.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U Jesus reporters are dumb as gently caress
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Geostomp posted:Well, yeah. Actually solving things is hard. Reacting in a way that seems to fit ideology and blindly hurts the Other is piss easy and draws in the uneducated and/or fearful. Even if it harms them, it'll still get votes from people dazzled by the way to fits their biases, plays into their egos, and spites those different. Most of all, it's incredibly simple which plays into the idea that they know how to "fix" the world if only they were listened to without the need of fancy, elitist learning, priming them to reject complexity more so they'll be easier dupes next time. Watching the Brexit idiots scurry away from their unexpected prize like the rats they are would have been hilarious if had resulted in anyone thinking maybe this should be indicative of some reflection about the idea.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U I don't understand what part of this I'm supposed to care about
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theflyingorc posted:I don't understand what part of this I'm supposed to care about *forehead vein PULSING* THE APPEARANCE . . . OF . . . IMPROPRIETY!!!!!11
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zoux posted:Oh buddy this survey the Trump campaign sent out. it just switches from questions to statements like halfway through. what the hell theflyingorc posted:I don't understand what part of this I'm supposed to care about them making an issue of a non-issue and her not just saying "yeah no this specific instance is totally within legal play gently caress off" I guess. I dunno.
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A good article by Ari Berman on how Trump is trying to re-enact the RNC's Ballot Police initiative that they got sued for in the 1980s: https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-is-encouraging-intimidation-and-racial-profiling-at-the-polls/ quote:n 1981, during a New Jersey gubernatorial election, the Republican National Committee launched a “Ballot Security Task Force” that sent sample ballots to voters in predominantly African-American and Hispanic precincts. When 45,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the RNC tried to remove the voters from the rolls and hired off-duty cops to patrol polling sites in black and Hispanic neighborhoods of Newark and Trenton. Police carried firearms at polling places and wore armbands reading “National Ballot Security Task Force,” while the RNC posted large signs saying, this area is being patrolled by the national ballot security task force. it is a crime to falsify a ballot or to violate election laws.
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Kristov posted:Goddamn. Why didn't the peacekeeping forces do any goddamned peacekeeping? I feel like we're missing some vital information here.
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No Butt Stuff posted:it just switches from questions to statements like halfway through. And this is a prime example of what a "push poll" is.
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Yoshifan823 posted:Yep, and he has a bold new idea to make sure the right kind of immigrants are coming in. (there's something in there too that is laying seeds for more Russian alliance, try to find it!) Oh yeah I'm positive that the Republican party is going to intentionally screen for immigrants that wouldn't support them. Trump himself wouldn't pass that test. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U What I'm taking away from this is the following: 1) Press asking questions about something that is currently in the news, whether it's an issue or not, they're doing their job. 2) PAO doing an absolutely horrible job at dispelling the questions as a non-issue and just repeating the same non-answer over and over. The only time it changes is when the one guy asks about Clinton herself vice her staff. Like seriously, if you're preparing for a presser, how in the gently caress do you not anticipate this question and come up with a better answer than one which does nothing to address the question that gets to the heart of the matter? Boon fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Kulkasha posted:Why didn't the peacekeeping forces do any goddamned peacekeeping? Your first mass killing while blue helmets watched? It is kinda their thing.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U This seems nowhere near as bad as you or RT act like it is. It is at worst a lovely presser, nothing newsworthy or improper or anything.
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emdash posted:https://twitter.com/AdamWeinstein/status/764992807236808704 https://twitter.com/AdamWeinstein/status/764994432076742657 this is my favorite tweet from that guy's timeline
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Dexo posted:Wilmore is talented as poo poo man. yeah, larry wilmore is a great comedian but he's much better behind the camera than in front of it
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Boon posted:What I'm taking away from this is the following: Part of it is that the question is over something that's completely blown out of proportion to begin with. They're taking something that's pretty standard in government operations (receiving requests) and are treating it as ABSOLUTE PROOF OF CORRUPTION. Just like oh, I don't know, assuming that all campaign contributions from big donors come with favors that can be cashed in later.
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Trabisnikof posted:This seems nowhere near as bad as you or RT act like it is. It is at worst a lovely presser, nothing newsworthy or improper or anything. This is likely RT trying to make a Hillary surrogate look bad the same way Trump surrogates have looked abysmal. Thing is, this IS bad for a Hillary surrogate. Maybe as bad as it gets. But compared to Trump and his -ites every day, she looks like Obama.
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Trabisnikof posted:Your first mass killing while blue helmets watched? The UN traditionally just sits around while these sort of things happen. Nothing new unfortunately. Later this week they will send out a strongly worded letter.
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This seems like a good place to ask: I see numerous talking points about Social Security going bankrupt, and it's always treated as a given that this will happen. Does anyone have interest in explaining, or linking, to something giving a solid rundown of how SS is funded, what the concerns are, how it has changed over time, how the funds are managed, etc etc? It's just one of those areas where I recognize that I know nothing but a lot of people I'm SURE know nothing like to talk about how much they know about it. Specifically, I'm trying to understand the validity of these claims: 1. It will be dead in 20 years 2. Those paying into it now will pay more than we'll ever get back 3. The government has stolen funds from Social Security to pay for other things
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Taerkar posted:Part of it is that the question is over something that's completely blown out of proportion to begin with. They're taking something that's pretty standard in government operations (receiving requests) and are treating it as ABSOLUTE PROOF OF CORRUPTION. I don't think so at all - the actual video, not the issue at heart. They're asking if the State Department sees any impropriety in the string of emails which the PAO could have easily put to rest by laying out the events and actions taken. Instead she dodged the question with a boilerplate 'This is how business is done' type answer which does nothing to put the issue to rest and just pisses off reporters. The press is doing their job, which is to verify that there is actually no issue here. The obfuscation just makes it seem like there is an issue to be investigated and I cannot fathom how they hadn't better prepared for that question.
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https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/765174325511086080
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theflyingorc posted:So, this is the first election where I've actually agreed with the radicals saying "the media is favoring one candidate over another", because I think the networks are actually trying to not get Trump elected. McCain and Romney would have been awful presidents policy wise, but at least I'd trust them to not use our nuclear arsenal for the sake of it. WaPo has been fantastic at ripping apart Trump, but he kind of made it personal when he yanked their press credentials and called out Bezos.
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theflyingorc posted:This seems like a good place to ask: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/071514/why-social-security-running-out-money.asp
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Boon posted:I don't think so at all - the actual video, not the issue at heart. They're asking if the State Department sees any impropriety in the string of emails which the PAO could have easily put to rest by laying out the events and actions taken. Instead she dodged the question with a boilerplate 'This is how business is done' type answer which does nothing to put the issue to rest and just pisses off reporters. Oh I'm sure if they put this one email in context with a thorough researching and full airing then they won't have to keep doing that until the heat death of the universe as the press goes on to ask questions about emails from Nigerian Princes regarding unclaimed fortunes.
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Dexo posted:Wilmore is talented as poo poo man. http://www.cc.com/episodes/85ugwo/the-nightly-show-with-larry-wilmore-april-7--2016---jake-tapper-season-2-ep-02088 I wish I could find a proper full episode.
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Why would you make tossups orange instead of purple, NBC?
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theflyingorc posted:This seems like a good place to ask: None of those things are really true. Social Security is largely solvent, but would be more so with some additional tweaks to the upper tax brackets. Most people paid more into it than they withdrawal, though it's complicated as people live and work longer. The government has, in the past, raided the social security trust fund. But that has not happened in a long time. Ironically, two of the three presidents to do so were Republicans. LBJ borrowed against it in the 60's to pay for 'Nam, Reagan paid for additional military spending by borrowing against it, and Dubya -- after the whole lockbox bullshit -- did it again to pay for Iraq and Afghanistan. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:Why would you make tossups orange instead of purple, NBC?
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CommieGIR posted:http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/071514/why-social-security-running-out-money.asp One thing this article gets wrong is the long-term outlook. It actually stabilizes around a 66-70% payout rate. This means that without changes, we'd have to shrink Social Security payouts by a third in order to cover all the payouts with the payroll tax income.
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zoux posted:Oh buddy this survey the Trump campaign sent out. I did my civic duty to help our God Emperor Trump uncuck the polls for our great nation.
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Augus posted:I did my civic duty to help our God Emperor Trump uncuck the polls for our great nation. I wonder how many responses they're getting from Weedlord Bonerhitler.
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By the way, my current favorite hot take from all the archconservatives on my Facebook wall: It's because of TRUMP and GUN CONTROL, not because nobody gives a drat about shooting sports
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theflyingorc posted:By the way, my current favorite hot take from all the archconservatives on my Facebook wall: Oh cool RWM has their new Tim Tebow. This won't be insufferable at all.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U It's a non-story, as explained here: http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/the-real-scandal-of-hillary-clintons-e-mails
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