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Neither Overkill nor Deathwish are hide in a closet difficulty, and you're not going to find anyone interested in playing on Very Hard. Don't worry about that. Higher difficulty levels are now extremely accessible; a significant amount of the Unfair Bullshit has been removed from Deathwish (and was never really there on Overkill) plus the player power level is higher than it was when you last played. It'll take a little getting used to but the game has never been more welcoming of stepping it up to a higher difficulty. like I think the only times I ever played non-Ovk or higher with goons is when someone was mask-hunting for the difficulty masks, and that was a looooooooong time ago.
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Psion posted:Neither Overkill nor Deathwish are hide in a closet difficulty, and you're not going to find anyone interested in playing on Very Hard. Don't worry about that. Higher difficulty levels are now extremely accessible; a significant amount of the Unfair Bullshit has been removed from Deathwish (and was never really there on Overkill) plus the player power level is higher than it was when you last played. It'll take a little getting used to but the game has never been more welcoming of stepping it up to a higher difficulty. Okay, I'm sold!
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Trustworthy posted:Okay, I'm sold! One note of caution- the mumble isn't as active as it once was (though this update should make things pick up again). Feel free to bug the folks in Team Tantric Jerking/ We are Watching stuff if there's no one in LFG. The mumble channels are also used as a general social club, but we're often up to click cops.
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Sep 1, 2016 19:47
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quote:Added the option to remap switching between deployables Praise Wilko, indeed.
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Trustworthy posted:I'm getting into Payday 2 again for the first time in like three years (figured I'd never play again with that whole safes fiasco, but was pleasantly surprised when they backtracked). I gotta say, I am loving loving most of the changes I've noticed. The deck system is fun to unlock and use, being able to unassign and juggle around skills (and save presets) for free is amazing, etc. Everything feels so much more flexible, and it also feels like there are way more viable play styles, rather than just a handful of obvious superbuilds. re: mumble - not many are active in it these days because it has been a while since there has been any new content added, but try out the steam group chat too, or post that you'll be playing and others may join you.
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Sep 1, 2016 20:09
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Discendo Vox posted:One note of caution- the mumble isn't as active as it once was (though this update should make things pick up again). Feel free to bug the folks in Team Tantric Jerking/ We are Watching stuff if there's no one in LFG. The mumble channels are also used as a general social club, but we're often up to click cops. Yeah, we're in a bit of a lull right this moment - it's been unusually long since new content got added, so the old folks are in hibernation. But there are still cops to click!
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Dr Cheeto posted:You might break 50 kills Savage
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Sep 1, 2016 20:55
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Discendo Vox posted:One note of caution- the mumble isn't as active as it once was (though this update should make things pick up again). Feel free to bug the folks in Team Tantric Jerking/ We are Watching stuff if there's no one in LFG. The mumble channels are also used as a general social club, but we're often up to click cops. Yeah, I do hate turning away people when they pop in and I'm not in the mood, but I'll pretty much always show a new player around no matter what.
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Renegret posted:WILCO get my name right and ill fix it  I didn't actually do much for this update, I'm busy doing new stuff. I updated the hit indicator and added the 144 and unlimited fps options as super last minute additions but that's it, everything else is the other programmers adding cool stuff. Also, back when I started on GoonMod a few years ago I certainly didn't expect to be seeing my name in the credits now 
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Sep 1, 2016 21:24
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Wilko posted:get my name right and ill fix it WILKO
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Renegret posted:WILCO You can still open it and sell the contents. The safes themselves are not marketable yet because something got hosed up in the implementation.
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UnknownMercenary posted:You can still open it and sell the contents. The safes themselves are not marketable yet because something got hosed up in the implementation. yeah I got some dumb deagle skin with flames that I listed for elevendy billion dollars because pubbies are dumb and I might get lucky
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Can you kneecap them and leave them howling in pain on the floor?
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Oh god, what happened to the screen size of everything from this update? It all feels a little off somehow.
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I think it's you. Mod trip report: everything seems fine. Goonmod didn't even autodisable.
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This update is incredible. Leg hitboxes makes everything awesome. e: especially against shields
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I can't really notice a difference legboxes do as I've been groomed for headshots, setting them on fire or exploding them at this point. But was it everything leg shooters dreamed of?
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Crabtree posted:I can't really notice a difference legboxes do as I've been groomed for headshots, setting them on fire or exploding them at this point. But was it everything leg shooters dreamed of? it makes taking tan jokers with weapons over 80 damage much easier. Also when you bonk a shield and he falls backwards revealing only his feet. That's a big one
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Discendo Vox posted:These two are because the game spawns and stores the keycard before moving into a relevant position, which may or may not spawn- in these cases, the safes that can potentially have a keycard. I figured as much, I just found it kind of odd since sometimes the safe in the boss's office of Firestarter 2 doesn't even spawn. Also this is probably the first safe where I can say I actually like all of the skins in it. Once they allow skins for the SAA I'll have to learn how to make them so I can submit a replica of Patton's.
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Renegret posted:it makes taking tan jokers with weapons over 80 damage much easier. Also when you bonk a shield and he falls backwards revealing only his feet. That's a big one You can't just keep smacking them in circles with melee?
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Crabtree posted:You can't just keep smacking them in circles with melee? Which takes significantly more time than shooting them in the side/leg
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Good to know I'm not crazy and flamethrower crits were busted (assuming I'm understanding the patch note correctly, anyway). Sounds like it's barbecue time again.
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So you can now switch skill profiles in preplanning and the forums are very mad that this ruins balance - somehow. Steam mods are saying it could be a bug, but I don't really mind this as a real feature. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=756400149 Because this could make switching around things between games or joining mid heist even easier. Or if you ever care to, switch between loud and stealth builds between days! Crabtree fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Crabtree posted:So you can now switch skill profiles in preplanning and the forums are very mad that this ruins balance - somehow. Steam mods are saying it could be a bug, but I don't really mind this as a real feature. http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/350540780279873031/#c350540780280036145  e: http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/350540780279873031/#c350540780280072908 
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Crabtree posted:So you can now switch skill profiles in preplanning and the forums are very mad that this ruins balance - somehow. Steam mods are saying it could be a bug, but I don't really mind this as a real feature. It does fundamentally break any need to balance the requirements of play between days of heists, making multiday heists with variable requirements that much more trivial. Given the other changes to the game that have already reduced difficulty, that really, really isn't good.
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Leg hitboxes make it a lot easier to take cops hostage without accidentally killing them. I'm loving it.
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Discendo Vox posted:It does fundamentally break any need to balance the requirements of play between days of heists, making multiday heists with variable requirements that much more trivial. Given the other changes to the game that have already reduced difficulty, that really, really isn't good. source your quotes
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Imagine having a dedicated stealth build or any desire to switch during a multiday heist.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Imagine having a dedicated stealth build or any desire to switch during a multiday heist. Basically. I read about it just now and thought to myself, "Man, that seems like effort. I will continue to let Pickle stealth stuff with his normal build and not do anything." It doesn't actually have a significant effect on balance for people who know what they're doing.
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Discendo Vox posted:It does fundamentally break any need to balance the requirements of play between days of heists, making multiday heists with variable requirements that much more trivial. Given the other changes to the game that have already reduced difficulty, that really, really isn't good. Oh, gently caress, Firestarter's easier. Sound the goddamn alarm. Or god forbid someone could bring a stealth build to Rats day 2 and gently caress around and make a youtube video about how hot poo poo stealth they are. Piss. Fundamentally all this means is people can switch between builds with different weapon skills on multi-day loud jobs. Sniper rifles for Hotline day 1 and shotguns for day 2. Game balance = hosed.
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My friend can feel less guilty about taking a dedicated tripmine build to Firestarter but knowing him he'll still just take it for all 3 days.
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UnknownMercenary posted:My friend can feel less guilty about taking a dedicated tripmine build to Firestarter but knowing him he'll still just take it for all 3 days. what's the point of ridiculous builds if you don't make everyone else suffer through them? in fact, I'm going to go make a tripmine build using the Stormtrooper AMCAR.
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Why are people even complaining that the ability to change builds between days makes hybrid builds useless? I have nearly 1500 hours in this game and the number of times I've actually fought out heists after stealth was broken - as opposed to simply restarting - I can count on one hand.
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Wastrel_ posted:Why are people even complaining that the ability to change builds between days makes hybrid builds useless? I have nearly 1500 hours in this game and the number of times I've actually fought out heists after stealth was broken - as opposed to simply restarting - I can count on one hand. It's an interesting approach, but you have to come at it with the right mindset. There are a number of heist where mixed stealth works out pretty well. Firestarter 2 and Diamond are good examples. In FS2, you can stealth through the hacks, then go loud to saw the door and steal the server. On Diamond, someone(s) can pull out artifacts and partially complete objectives. There's no reason to do it unless you find it amusing, and it's always done with the knowledge that things will eventually go loud.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:In FS2, you can stealth through the hacks, then go loud to saw the door and steal the server. Actually just did this tonight, coincidentally. But nothing to do with build switching oh no!!!! and everything to do with my build being silent and 4 DR by default. Of course then we had to do the bank three times over because of dumb pubbery. Two questions: 1) Have dragon's breath rounds always been incompatible with silencers?  2) Has anyone else been having trouble getting Bloodthirst to proc properly? Could've just been extreme desync of some flavor or another, but it was happening an awful lot tonight.
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1) I think so, yeah 2) haven't heard of a problem with it - I don't use that tree right now but two people I know do. They didn't mention it. as far as I know the only skill with weird trigger problems right now is Unseen Strike, but 
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 I forgot to tell people to list this in the patch notes, but normalized ironsights are in the game proper now.
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John Murdoch posted:2) Has anyone else been having trouble getting Bloodthirst to proc properly? Could've just been extreme desync of some flavor or another, but it was happening an awful lot tonight. Nope, it's working fine. And desync probably shouldn't play a role, since all skill bonuses should be client-side.
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Wilko posted:
so uh, I'm really okay with you integrating all of goonmod into the base game (are lasers or the delimiter next?  )
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