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Landsknecht posted:you say this about everyone so it's more of a cya than an honest opinion at this point nuh-uh wibla owns
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Bilirubin posted:Remind me how Blwarrf's departure fits into the saga. IIRC Endie was citing his dismissal as support for the lovely way the direkkktorate was treating people at the time? The way I remember it: * Blawrf went AFK IRL, mostly for good reasons (lost weight, got a steady gf, started focusing on school) * Gets removed from illum because he wasn't actually doing anything (since Esildra had taken over as war commander), no hard feelings, feel free to come back if you start doing poo poo * Butthurt ensues * Mean things were said * Hearts are broken It's up to you to decide how this fits into the puzzle. Extra credit for comparing/contrasting with Vyst's relatively quiet departure under similar circumstances. Divine Blob posted:so i shouldn't fly my guardian until logi 5 or should i just fly it and not expect srp until logi 5? Guardians are largely safe to fly at logi 4, but you should aspire to logi 5 if you really like spacepriesting. Scimitars and Oneiroses, otoh, are strictly Logi5 or gtfo. You can't get even remotely close to cap-stable without it. (Even our Logi5 fits don't aspire to complete cap-stability, honestly.)
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Rhymenoserous posted:It's kind of hypocritical to talk about one group slinging poo poo while ignoring the instigators whom are the very ones you feel the need to defend. Our directors didn't instigate the verbal attacks on Darius Johnson, they responded to them. The same with Endie as much as I love him, or Kismeteer. The directors didn't nail these people to a cross, they chose to do that entirely on their own, and the shock and dismay that previous friends may have unkind words to say after the fact never seems to have crossed their minds. I mean despite all the dirty laundry aired I like Endie, hell I like Kismeteer, I'd have probably liked DJ if I got to know him, I definitely think he's hilarious. But he's also full of poo poo and threw a tantrum because the current directorate trusted their own guts (Which I personally think they were wrong about too tbh) over what absentee dad was telling them he wanted them to do, because ~reasons~. if the concern troll label helps you feel better about every person who disagrees with gsf, that's fine. all of this post had a good point until you took these bad parting shots and made an assumption about how i would feel wrt taking the high road the only thing that got dragged through the mud during any of the endie/dj/etc stuff was THE IMPERIUM space brand and to take it personally is stupid. to see this much animosity about that space brand is hilarious to me
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Rhymenoserous posted:You instigate verbal attacks on everyone. fair i guess
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Divine Blob posted:so i shouldn't fly my guardian until logi 5 or should i just fly it and not expect srp until logi 5? If you don't care about losing them fly them, if not fly the oni instead like Morris so aptly pointed out. You want that SRP son, no matter how wealthy you are you should always put in for it if you don't cock up the request. It's what it's there for. Also I've used it once so I'm, as usual, a giant loving hypocrite but there you are.
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Wings_SWMud posted:one of the things that's jumped out at me having, mostly quietly, been in and out and in and out etc of goonfleetwaffeswarm for...christ, what, ten years now? (and even at that not so much as some people, having missed Syndicate, but still) over the last year or so has been every craven shithead with an axe (whether recent or half a decade old) to grind taking to reddit to use the metaphorical me as a talking point for why The Current Generation are Awful and wouldn't everything be so much better if the old goons were in charge except oh they're all in PL etc ad nauseam The metaphorical "you" (Joe SA Goon) is most likely unsubbed, has left for greener pastures, or has been driven out and replaced with 15k pubbies poached from fallen allies. But really, are you surprised that ex-members are posting about their drama-magnet former alliance?
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 20:58 |
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Rhymenoserous posted:guardians a cap hog, just don't fly it. ullerrm posted:The way I remember it: iVjLZDDc posted:That'll happen; don't get discouraged. Utility roles are awesome fun and end up teaching you quite a lot because you're forced to be aware of a lot more about what's happening on grid, so you end up learning better than if you'd kept in mainline DPS (or even mainline logi). I'm just going to take this all in as a learning experience.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 20:59 |
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Morris posted:someone pasted these in elysium earlier, might just be sion's doing though thanks friend Morris posted:this is like the ensemble number where everyone comes out and airs all of their problems before magically resolving them and maybe there's a wedding id renew my netflix for this Morris posted:don't eat worms silly dogge bated, not baited, whoops~
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:00 |
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dodkalm posted:The very short version: Blawrf turned into an entitled manchild, threatened to leak some ~things~. Misinterpreted something Sion said as a personal threat and started a reddit hate mob after sion Oh noes, the reddit hatemob, what will we ever do?
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Daco Vato posted:If you don't care about losing them fly them, if not fly the oni instead like Morris so aptly pointed out. You want that SRP son, no matter how wealthy you are you should always put in for it if you don't cock up the request. It's what it's there for. Also I've used it once so I'm, as usual, a giant loving hypocrite but there you are. yeah, it's just the train for the oni is probably equal to my logi 5 train so ill just stick with that tbh
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4th Horseman posted:You're so full of hate towards gsf in this thread it's hard take anything you say Say anything negative towards GSF is full of hatred? I speak the truth as I see it from my perspective.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:01 |
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Blazing Zero posted:besides people rightfully pointing out his recent bad posts, ive only seen the classic 'endie is unstable' posters saying kismeteer sucks. is this another toeing the line episode of GoonSwarm Federation I like kismeteer AND think endie is kind of a douche
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:dont forget remedial and kind of hoegaarden From what I gathered from Hoe he and Rem got into it pretty well when Rem returned from going awol while Hoe was CEO and started second guessing, making questionable decisions to the detriment of the corp/alliance.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:06 |
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Divine Blob posted:so i shouldn't fly my guardian until logi 5 or should i just fly it and not expect srp until logi 5? The Guardian is a really demanding ship; it's somewhat functional at Logi IV but more consistent at Logi V for reasons described by others above. The dependence here is where your capacitor skills are at. If you've got the two skills (capacity, regen) to V, then a Guardian on Logi IV is viable with little micromanagement tricks such as staggering your reps. If you don't stagger reps, you will "alpha" your own cap instead of taking advantage of gradual recharge; let me know if this needs further explanation. Where this gets hairy is when you alpha yourself below peak capacitor recharge and basically become a) hopeless, b) dead weight on the cap chain; always try to stay > ~20%cap or so. As you can see from the graph, the difference between ~10%cap and ~20%cap is - to fit the theme of the thread, apparently - the difference between your ship being on or off its medication. [e:] The other funny thing here is, if you look at the graph again, a cap chain is hypothetically the most functional if everyone keeps their capacitor in the 20-35% range, but then you have very little 'buffer' against hostile neut pressure. If you've got the cap regen skill to V (takes about a week to train) and Capacitor Management only to IV (V takes around two weeks to train) then it's still doable-ish, but if you're on IV/IV for both cap skills and you're running Logi IV, it's a bit of an exercise in disappointment. Don't get discouraged, though - if SRP's an issue while the stuff in your queue goes by you can always bring out an Auguror or better yet an Exequror Final bit I'd add - for blob poo poo I've always preferred Oneiros (the Gallente armour logi, adult version of Exequror). Guardians are baller but It can be nice to focus on your own positioning, vector, and doing fun Gallente-only stuff like putting bonused rep drones on light stuff, rather than being caught in the monkey cage of constantly readjusting cap chains (or not, because people are liable to gently caress up, and then it gets even worse) and missing out on responding to everything else quickly enough in the meantime. I'm guessing you haven't got Gallente Cruiser V, but just throwing out there that it's a nice change of pace too. iVjLZDDc fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Sep 16, 2016 |
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:kismet no joke was always terrible and I've been saying that publicly for at least 5 years you hate everyone except maybe endie iirc. but thanks for sharing, friend. i guess when you say publically, you mean on gsf.com? i dont read that so i guess that explains why its a surprise to me that kismeteer is The Next Bad Guy in a list of Bad Guys FruitNYogurtParfait posted:sorry for the post delay im getting ready to take a nice drive up the mountains because its a nice day enjoy
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:11 |
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:nuh-uh wibla owns aint that the truth
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:19 |
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luminalflux posted:aint that the truth Wibla has always been awesome, don't think anyone is saying otherwise.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:20 |
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endie doesn't even play anymore why we talking about him
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:22 |
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"TopGoon[555 posted:" post="464336382"] hi please don't dis my space guild
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:23 |
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I remember this one time in 2011 when Endie tried to fabricate logs to claim I was stealing his spawns when I had been safed up the entire time it was a pretty hilarious tantrum, something about "messing up the chains of alliance directors" I am inclined to believe anything bad anyone has to say about Endie after witnessing him turn belt ratting into a power play
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:25 |
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iVjLZDDc posted:lots of good info GSF SRP requires all cap skills to 5 for oneiros as well (edit: but logi cruisers 4 tho) But I like my Exequror, flying Nightmares in highsec incursions means I get a rash whenever I think about cap chains now Discussion Quorum fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Sep 16, 2016 |
# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:25 |
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iVjLZDDc posted:The Guardian is a really demanding ship; it's somewhat functional at Logi IV but more consistent at Logi V for reasons described by others above. Yeah, honestly, I hosed up. I trained amarr cruisers 5 first, rather than logi 5. I'm still a little bit confused, because I didn't think I really needed to worry about cap that much. I probably need a mentor, but I thought the thing you did was someone broadcasts for armor, you use all your reps once on him, then move to the next dude. Would I really run out of cap that way?
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:26 |
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im in endies corp and he still homo
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:26 |
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The latest trend in posting is both incredibly fascinating and absolutely cancerous at the same time. I'm absolutely enthralled by my own demise. me
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:30 |
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"TopGoon[555 posted:" post="464336259"] I'm not surprised they're posting about it, just surprised they'd use the old guard as some sort of idol to hold up, especially when said old guard would casually despise them for having the temerity to exist. I guess they don't really know that though. I mean there are still plenty of us around, we've just mostly come to terms with the fact that the only thing spending $10 really means these days is that you're probably old and stuck with 2.4 kids and/or 2.4 dogs and don't feel the need to make a lot of noise, and that's...ok, in the end?
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Divine Blob posted:I probably need a mentor, but I thought the thing you did was someone broadcasts for armor, you use all your reps once on him, then move to the next dude. Would I really run out of cap that way?
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:33 |
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Blazing Zero posted:if the concern troll label helps you feel better about every person who disagrees with gsf, that's fine. all of this post had a good point until you took these bad parting shots and made an assumption about how i would feel wrt taking the high road What animosity specifically? I mean do you really think that the hostility and vexation we're seeing is because "waaaaaaah our friends went to play with someone else", or do you think it's more "hey - these people left us. that's okay. then they were pretty public about being happy that they left us. that kind of hurts. then they (in some cases) actively worked to bring down some of the things we built together as friends. that really hurts." Based on this thread you could really make a case that we're all on the loving spectrum - and our apparently sociopathic behavior just stems from undiagnosed Asperger's.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:35 |
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I'm a stupid newbie, please. I literally have no idea what I'm doing hahaha.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:38 |
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did goons defeat the fcon scourge??
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:38 |
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Goons died. Mostly from exposure to PL posting. What a tragedy. RIP IN PEAS
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:42 |
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"TopGoon[555 posted:" post="464336382"] how does it feel knowing that people will respond to kismeteer's bait posts, preferentially, over yours
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:43 |
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trust me, all posting sucks
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:45 |
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Glory of Arioch posted:how does it feel knowing that people will respond to kismeteer's bait posts, preferentially, over yours I asked who he was but I already forgot cause I think he told me. I think 555 is his area code. Imma doxxx him.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:45 |
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Baculus posted:I asked who he was but I already forgot cause I think he told me. please keep the baleful gaze of a fully-operational doxxing laser away from children and pets
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:47 |
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Divine Blob posted:Yeah, honestly, I hosed up. I trained amarr cruisers 5 first, rather than logi 5. I'm still a little bit confused, because I didn't think I really needed to worry about cap that much. No one gets ~all my reps~. The primary gets all but one, and the free one is a floater that I either use for "Oh poo poo he gonna die" moments or for repping dumb poo poo like interceptors.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:47 |
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posting is actually, very good
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:47 |
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Glory of Arioch posted:please keep the baleful gaze of a fully-operational doxxing laser away from children and pets DO NOT LOOK INTO
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 21:48 |
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goninzo posted:Wait till you get too busy to do work in a video game, you might get purged too. evilweasel posted:probably will someday, life will go on without rending of garments and reddit amas and complete meltdowns and I will instead remember my time fondly I got "purged" on literally the same day that Blawrf, xttz, and Javajunky did and I moved on with my life because I hadn't done much of use in a long time and that's a completely okay way to run a space organization. I don't hate anyone and I found the freakout over the "purges" to be very strange. I still talk to everyone involved and there is no bad blood over my decisions to focus on my career and life instead of a space game and that's good. What I didn't do was go around emptying a bunch of towers or stealing poo poo or posting dumb dirty laundry on Reddit to acquire more space fame. I have always thought about doing a Reddit AMA but I think the name Padded Helmets is really only known to Goons -- the wider EVE universe never knew who I was because I stayed quietly in the shadows the majority of the time, rather than seeking to personally aggrandize myself and acquire space-fame through posting. Not that I mean anyone else has done that on purpose, or anything. I would never impute such perfidies, especially not to my respected ex-space colleagues. 4th Horseman posted:Wat about all the people who were fired but didn't stir poo poo That is curious, isn't it. bonewitch posted:the only thing i've learned from the past 517 pages is that becoming space important makes you completely batshit insane Yeah, whether you go insane or are forced to deal with insane people (and thus question your own judgment daily in a perverse sort of persecution mania) it is not that great. Bilirubin posted:Remind me how Blwarrf's departure fits into the saga. IIRC Endie was citing his dismissal as support for the lovely way the direkkktorate was treating people at the time? This is what I alluded to above. A bunch of stuff happened and various people who hadn't been doing their jobs, or any jobs, were purged from either Illum or TSC. This marked the formal institution of the "you must be doing EVE poo poo to ride this ride" rule for senior leadership, where previously it had only been a half-rule for directors and no rule at all for anyone in the so-called sex chamber. Along with various directors including Javajunky, multiple senior leadership were demoted simultaneously and Blawrf chose to be decidedly unhappy about this. I happened to be in Paris at the time and got back and was like "oh hey I was purged, didn't you say I could hang around forever?" and Mittens replied, "Times change." (This is a bad World of Warcraft reference for those keeping score at home.) Anyway, I moved on with my life because my space-game chat channels don't actually define my friendships or my real life and I'm sure that because I didn't do dumb poo poo over a space game that I will still be welcome at all the right parties. This doesn't even get into the stuff about Endie but posting all that stuff will take a lot of effort, especially if I want to keep it concise. I'll work on it.
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Baculus posted:I asked who he was but I already forgot cause I think he told me. he is a man who vio kicked because they thought he was gonna quit the game and steal from goons (in 2010) here he is, playing eve in TYOOL 2016
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Baculus posted:What animosity specifically? yeah I mean foehammer is in PL and I still say hi to him whenever I pass, and ask how his wrist is and everything, he's an allright dude.
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