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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

scrubs season six posted:

It's not the porn. It's that the guys are retarded. Or extremely inexperienced. Or both.

Basically.

Any "porn ideas" about sex should vanish once the guy actually starts having sex. It just fills virgin's minds with dumb stuff. If they don't get over them quickly once they start having sex then they are just dumb and nothing will save them.

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

loquacius posted:

I freely admit that I was working off of no knowledge of the exact thinking and approach you were making reference to and assumed it was guys thinking women love it when you bust in their faces or tear their clothing or something (e: or do the James Deen thing where you grab their cheeks and stare intensely into their eyes), but I am gonna say that if you're waiting for a guy who is not corrupted by porn and also isn't a fundie with really weird views RE sex for a multitude of non-porn-related reasons, you might be waiting a while.

I never said it was a dealbreaker or I assumed it wouldn't influence guys I was dating, just that I'm not a fan of ways I think it affects how men view women and sex. And even then, I think it would affect their thinking less if they were better at communicating with women generally. The big hurdle is honest communication, and men are socialized to not really engage in that way. Just the other week, I was hanging out with some friends of mine, chatting social this-and-that, at at hour five I cracked "Isn't it great that men also spend this much time discussing how to not hurt each other's feelings?" Big laughs :v:.

But then again, women often advise one another to not talk about emotions with guys because they "don't get it" or that it will annoy them, so we hide stuff or seem angry about the wrong things. I got frustrated at a guy recently because he said if he were in the same city as other family members, he'd rather hang back and not bother them; bugs me because it seems impossible to convince him people do want him around. But I was tired and hormonal and was a bitch instead. I apologized but if I'd been clearer about how I felt instead of getting weird out-of-nowhere snappish, I might have been able to come across as appropriately supportive instead of mean.

Pick fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Oct 21, 2016

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

My girlfriend tells me to jerk it and has no qualms about it because we both know that the mood strikes us sometimes and it's perfectly healthy. I don't get these crazy weirdos who think that porn and masturbation is the worst thing ever. It's bizarre to shame people for the most normal thing in human history. :shobon:

I agree with George Carlin that if masturbation were so wrong we'd have shorter arms.

Redmanred
Aug 29, 2005

My hometown japan
:japan:

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

My girlfriend tells me to jerk it and has no qualms about it because we both know that the mood strikes us sometimes and it's perfectly healthy. I don't get these crazy weirdos who think that porn and masturbation is the worst thing ever. It's bizarre to shame people for the most normal thing in human history. :shobon:

Like poo poo when they were digging up pompeii they found a poo poo ton of porn

Also, people gotta stop being so uptight over their partner's fantasizing if it doesn't really go anywhere beyond just masturbating on their own time. Gotta grow the gently caress up and realize both men and women have their porn in some sense to get off to.

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

I [26M] slept with my best friend's sister [19F].

Nice to have a plain, regular palate cleanser between all the deep dives into the r/relationship bull prepping trough.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

scrubs season six posted:

It's not the porn. It's that the guys are retarded. Or extremely inexperienced. Or both. As a non retard I can watch pornography without thinking that women want nine inch hog legs and the most appropriate place for semen is always in her eyeballs.

A lot of guys are super insecure about their dicks because the measurement which is often tossed around by dumb teens as the bare acceptable minimum is higher than the statistical average, and you can't even talk about how hosed that is without people immediately thinking you have a tiny dick, even if your dick is as insanely large as mine is. But it also doesn't make sense to blame that 100% on porn. We kind of have an unhealthy fixation on dick size as a society and it leaks into non-sexual stuff all the time.

Pick posted:

I never said it was a dealbreaker or I assumed it wouldn't influence guys I was dating, just that I'm not a fan of ways I think it affects how men view women and sex. And even then, I think it would affect their thinking less if they were better at communicating with women generally. The big hurdle is honest communication, and men are socialized to not really engage in that way. Just the other week, I was hanging out with some friends of mine, chatting social this-and-that, at at hour five I cracked "Isn't it great that men also spend this much time discussing how to not hurt each other's feelings?" Big laughs :v:.

Ah. The context of the conversation kind of indicated otherwise; this is a totally understandable stance yeah

(Men are definitely socialized to think that if they ever show pain or vulnerability everyone will think they are either a weakling or a lunatic and that definitely influences the way we act)

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Was my [18 M] way of asking a girl [18 F] out on a date rude and/or inconsiderate

quote:

So basically there's this girl in my stats class I've been crushing on for about a month or so. Cute, fun, seemingly my type, the usual nine yards. I decided to ask her out on a date to a local eatery since we've been talking a decent amount in and out of class. Unfortunately, when I asked(yes, I DID use the word 'date') she got apprehensive and gave a weak maybe saying she was really short on money. When I offered to pay on her behalf, she said I shouldn't need to do that.

Well, I probably should have stopped there, right? Take the fact she was trying to let me down easy. However, I've had girls give me excuses like that before, and today for some reason I just wasn't having it. I stay polite and maintain my cool, yet I go ahead and ask her something along the lines of this: "My question really isn't are you able to, it's do you want to? If you're not able but want to we can work something out, but if you don't want to, then that's okay too."

All of a sudden she seems to kind of lock up in place and get stiff, like I've struck a chord in her or something. She then gives me this quiet kinda tense voiced, "No, I don't." response. And I just say "Well, alright, later," and part ways with her. Definitely a bit of a painful/awkward situation.

Now I totally get I got rejected. Like I'm kinda bummed but she doesn't owe me anything. But I can't help but think I may have crossed a line by not taking the hint. Is this an appropriate way to ask a gal out in general? What do you guys think?

tl;dr: I ask a girl out. She gives an excuse that she isn't able to. I ask not if she's able to, but if she wants to. Girl then gets super uncomfortable and straight up turns me down. Is this an appropriate way to get a straight answer?

reddit response: op is basically a predator and should send her an apology on facebook

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

My girlfriend tells me to jerk it and has no qualms about it because we both know that the mood strikes us sometimes and it's perfectly healthy. I don't get these crazy weirdos who think that porn and masturbation is the worst thing ever. It's bizarre to shame people for the most normal thing in human history. :shobon:

My girlfriend doesn't watch porn but she tries to guess the kind of porn I like. She doesn't care at all.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Maybe those guys should buy their SO's a rabbit. Or a sybian. Help them understand the difference between good sex with SO and fun solo adventures.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

loquacius posted:

A lot of guys are super insecure about their dicks because the measurement which is often tossed around by dumb teens as the bare acceptable minimum is higher than the statistical average, and you can't even talk about how hosed that is without people immediately thinking you have a tiny dick, even if your dick is as insanely large as mine is. But it also doesn't make sense to blame that 100% on porn.

I don't--as I said, I think pornography reinforces it (heavily). So do jokes about small dicks, which is why I don't tell jokes about dick size even though they're still socially acceptable for some reason. But in return, it would be helpful if guys didn't say stuff like "I can't wait to see the tears in your eyes when you choke on it" because that's a big turn-off. (Or worse, the earlier daddy cummies in the no no zone or whatever the gently caress it was in the earlier story.)

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Facebook Aunt posted:

Maybe those guys should buy their SO's a rabbit
idk it's a risky gamble that their SO is secretly into bestiality

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Tolkien minority posted:

Was my [18 M] way of asking a girl [18 F] out on a date rude and/or inconsiderate


reddit response: op is basically a predator and should send her an apology on facebook

I don't see anything wrong with this exchange from either party.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Tolkien minority posted:

Was my [18 M] way of asking a girl [18 F] out on a date rude and/or inconsiderate


reddit response: op is basically a predator and should send her an apology on facebook

That's a super normal thing from both people and no one really screwed up imho

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Chomp8645 posted:

I don't see anything wrong with this exchange from either party.

uhhh op clearly triggered the girl p hard???? wats not to see

quote:

Yes. You were incredibly rude. That sort of interaction is incredibly uncomfortable for many women because men (as a group) have a history of getting violent when they're shot down.
She was demurring and being vague and polite because that was what made her feel safe. When she "seems to kind of lock up in place and get stiff," that is you triggering her that you are potentially dangerous. That is you freaking her the gently caress out. That is her wondering if she says the wrong thing if she is going to get hurt.

Now, I get it. You're not violent. You would never hurt somebody who rejected you. But she doesn't know that. Lots of guys who have seemed reasonable have turned out not to be reasonable.
The truth is you already knew the answer. When she said she didn't want you to pay, she was telling you that she didn't want to go on a date with you. But you "weren't having it."

If you have some sort of social media contact, I would send her a short message saying, "Hey, in retrospect I recognize that was sort of an obnoxious thing for me to do, and I apologize." If you don't, let it lie unless she invites further conversation. Do not pressure her for her attention to apologize about how you pressured her.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Pick posted:

I don't--as I said, I think pornography reinforces it (heavily). So do jokes about small dicks, which is why I don't tell jokes about dick size even though they're still socially acceptable for some reason. But in return, it would be helpful if guys didn't say stuff like "I can't wait to see the tears in your eyes when you choke on it" because that's a big turn-off. (Or worse, the earlier daddy cummies in the no no zone or whatever the gently caress it was in the earlier story.)

You just have a broken moron detector in your head. Date guys 5 years older than you and it should turn out better.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pick posted:

But in return, it would be helpful if guys didn't say stuff like "I can't wait to see the tears in your eyes when you choke on it" because that's a big turn-off.

Is this something normal guys say, or is this based on your awful history with men?

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Tolkien minority posted:

Was my [18 M] way of asking a girl [18 F] out on a date rude and/or inconsiderate


reddit response: op is basically a predator and should send her an apology on facebook

Ahaha that poor guy grew one half of a testicle for one moment and now will regret it for the rest of his life.

Also jesus christ shut up about porn.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Tolkien minority posted:

uhhh op clearly triggered the girl p hard???? wats not to see

The redditor that posted this can suck my loving dick.


Also why in the world, if we take the premise that he DEEPLY TRIGGERED her at face value, would she want a follow up apology? That would just be even worse. The whole thing is best left alone at this point whether you think anyone wrong occurred or not.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Pick posted:

But in return, it would be helpful if guys didn't say stuff like "I can't wait to see the tears in your eyes when you choke on it" because that's a big turn-off.

:lol: I am gonna file this particular thing under "you should probably know enough about the difference between porn and real life not to do this", yeah

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

WampaLord posted:

Is this something normal guys say, or is this based on your awful history with men?

I know a lot of guys and we limit our dirty talk with our girlfriends and wives to mostly texting because it is awkward in person

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

WampaLord posted:

Is this something normal guys say, or is this based on your awful history with men?

Why ask when everyone already knows.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

Regulation Size posted:

Also jesus christ shut up about porn.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

WampaLord posted:

Is this something normal guys say, or is this based on your awful history with men?

It's one I got, I don't remember the exact phrasing but it was like a second date so after that I just told him I wasn't interested in seeing him again.

I've gone on dates with loads of guys, but if anything my broken moron detector is too sensitive because I'm the one who tells them nah. Like maybe he was trying to do a bit or something, but I'm pretty straightforward and am going to take him at his word, in which case nah because if I choke I'm gonna barf. I don't want to spend the rest of my life barfing on some guy's dick all the time.

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011
Some women would also find that hot and not a turn off :ninja:

(No one should find the "daddy's cummies" thing anything but horrifying though)

Jumping right into that kind of dirty talk without testing the waters is amateurish and dumb, though, and the porn talk is a symptom of idiocy and not the cause

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Chomp8645 posted:

The redditor that posted this can suck my loving dick.


Also why in the world, if we take the premise that he DEEPLY TRIGGERED her at face value, would she want a follow up apology? That would just be even worse. The whole thing is best left alone at this point whether you think anyone wrong occurred or not.

decided to check their comment history, not convinced their not a troll. this one is especially topical with the whole "crazy beez and porn" deal we got goin on




quote:

So, this post will get down voted, but the reality is that she may well be telling you the truth.

Ask anybody who has spent time seeking anonymous hookups, and they'll tell you is that one of the biggest problems is that people flake. They get off on the fantasy of it, it charges them up, but they don't actually want to follow through .

It is a kind of extended role-play fantasy. This is not just true on craigslist and the like, it's something sex workers deal with all the time. A lot more people enjoy the fantasy of it than would actually consider going through with it.
Now, maybe she's not one of those people. Maybe she really did intend to cheat and decided not to because the people she was communicating with were unattractive. A
I find that unlikely (because if she wants a quick one-night stand there are easier ways for her to find an attractive guy to do that with) but we can't rule it out
.
But you asked if her explanation of her behavior was believable, and the answer is yes: it is extremely believable. The motivation she ascribes to herself is common. (Doesn't mean she's telling the truth, but she very well could be). Visual porn doesn't work for a lot of women they way it works for men, where textual porn does - and this could be a form of porn for her.

Now, that being said, she clearly has some unmet sexual needs here and if you want to keep seeing her, you guys need to be able to talk about that. Those unmet needs don't mean you're doing anything wrong (any more than you looking at porn would mean she's doing something wrong), but they are something you need to be able to talk about.

And maybe when you guys have that conversation, her honest answer will be "Well, look, sometimes I need to randomly exchange sexy messages with strangers to get off, and I'm never going to meet them," then you have decide if you're okay with that or not. You can not be okay with it, but recognize that probably means you guys are going to break up at some point.

But my advice would be, if you can get to a point where you believe her that she never intended to meet any of these people, that you give her the same sort of pass on random sexting that you want for watching porn (assuming you want one for watching porn).

sexting randos while in a relationship: totally cool and basically the same thing as watching porn and its prob the partners fault anyway for not satisfying them

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

Pick posted:

It's one I got, I don't remember the exact phrasing but it was like a second date so after that I just told him I wasn't interested in seeing him again.

I've gone on dates with loads of guys, but if anything my broken moron detector is too sensitive because I'm the one who tells them nah. Like maybe he was trying to do a bit or something, but I'm pretty straightforward and am going to take him at his word, in which case nah because if I choke I'm gonna barf. I don't want to spend the rest of my life barfing on some guy's dick all the time.

No one cares.

She (31f) killed my (27m) nice guy side after a 2 year relationship. what do i do?

quote:

This is going to be a long one, so please bare with me.

First of all, we are still together, I actually just moved in two weeks ago.

2 years ago, I was the nicest guy. I would take my gf on dates constantly, buy her presents, the works. I loved her and she, me. Now, instead of seeing the red flags everywhere, i put on the blinders and went along with my so-called happiness.

Present time: I still get the "Thank you, babe!" when I buy her something, whether it be food, gifts, a massage, what-have-you. However, i feel unappreciated, lonely, unhappy and mean. How did I get here?

Tonight, I talked to a friend and told him everything that was on my chest, which I was finally able to put into words and come here for any and all advice I can get.

First thing that came to mind. She has completely taken advantage of my niceness. When I go out she EXPECTS me to bring something back to her. I would, at first, just be thinking about her, "oh! she probably would like something to drink from dunkin donuts!" I know this is partly my fault for almost always when going out bringing her back something (just coffee or a snack), but it was a nice gesture. When she goes out, even two years ago, she never even thought to bring me back anything, ever. Only if I specifically asked her to.

Sex. There is none. I'm 27 and do not have a sex life. I would never ever cheat, but over the passed year, I've just stopped asking. She will ONLY have sex while drunk, and I obviously do not want to have sex unless I am drunk too. Never one blowjob offer after a long hard day, no sweetly laying her down and passionately making love to her. When I need to get off, time to go to the bathroom with my iPad and watch some porn and jerk off on the toilet.

Kissing and other affection. Again, basically none. A goodnight kiss, a kiss before work, (peck kissing, she does not passionate kiss ever except during those very rare sex act.) and even those aren't guaranteed. Hugs and other such things? Meh, sometimes, and they are half-assed with her sitting down and me bending down to hug her. Sometimes she will get up.

Her pets. Her cat and bird hate me. Her bird will attack me anytime it's out of the cage. It bit me three times (would fly away after biting and come back for more) and my eyes went red (i've been dealing with this bird attacking me for 2 years) and I almost killed it. She has said multiple times she would clip it's wings, but nope, not once. Her cat just likes to scratch me (I am NOT a cat person) and bite me, then act like i've abused it and my gf will coddle it and make it alllllll better. Shame on me for not liking cats and birds!

Thoughtfulness. I picked up my whole life, leaving friends, family and loving pets to live here with her. Yet, when I go up to my office the two times a week I have to go, after work I see my family and friends (from about 5 PM - 10 PM, I have an hour and a half drive home.) She has complained that I spend more time there than I do at home here (I am up there MAYBE 10 hours a week, tops). She has every single family, friend and her job here. I have to work from home (not so bad) and barely see friends or family anymore due to gas prices, being broke and the like. She broke me yesterday as we fought about it and I just yelled at her for telling me I am spending entirely too much time there when she sees her parents and friends literally every day. gently caress me for wanting to see people I care about, right?

The last straw was we just celebrated our 2 years together. We didn't have funds to go out and eat, but I thoughtfully went out, got her flowers, a bluray movie and a new iPad cover that she wanted. I didn't ask for anything, but expected a little something. Nope. Nothing. It wasn't until a week later where I said, how are you enjoying your new gifts? She then said, Oh! I got your something, but I misplaced it (really?). Two weeks later, still nothing, so I casually mention the supposed gift and she goes, it's not done, but if you want it, you can have it. I said, "sure!". Excitedly I thought she got me something so awesome!....yep, you probably guessed it. It wasn't thoughtful at all. It was one of those cards, that say, "This is good for one sweet blah blah blah From Jerk, Love, Jerk" As she was handing the then blank card to me, she proceeds to write, "Happy Two Years, babe! Hope for hundreds more!" As she gave it to me, she had the biggest smile on her face, "Do you like it?" She asks. "Of course babe..." I proceed to say. Then sits back in the couch with a smile like she did something really thoughtful!

Sigh. r/relationships. Am i an idiot? Am I selfish? I feel stupid. I feel like she trained me, but right now, I feel drained and don't feel like a good person anymore. I feel taken advantage of by an older selfish woman.

I just need help. I don't know what to do. I want to love her like before, but now that all this has happened over the course of a year. I feel so loving dumb.

My friend says I should just cut my loses, break it off, and move out. It's only been two weeks, maybe it will get better? I've tried talking to her, but she does not like talking about feelings, and I do, very much so.

Help.

tl;dr - Girlfriend is selfish. Didn't see the signs for over a year. Just moved into her place. Maybe things will get better? Help. Please.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
do you ever think dating really weird messed up dudes might be related to being a furry?

also all this talk about porn is awesome and fun I wish there was a whole thread dedicated to it!

oh

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3794930

im cute
Sep 21, 2009

^^ double lol

Tolkien minority posted:

decided to check their comment history, not convinced their not a troll. this one is especially topical with the whole "crazy beez and porn" deal we got goin on


sexting randos while in a relationship: totally cool and basically the same thing as watching porn and its prob the partners fault anyway for not satisfying them

fukken lol

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Regulation Size posted:

She (31f) killed my (27m) nice guy side after a 2 year relationship. what do i do?
How the ever-loving gently caress did that guy not get the "nice" kicked out of him by life until he was 27?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

That was a direct response to a question you idiot.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Pick posted:

That was a direct response to a question you idiot.


quote:

No one cares.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Please don't fight in this thread, just talk about strange folks from reddit. "no one cares" does not contribute anything.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Regulation Size posted:

No one cares.

She (31f) killed my (27m) nice guy side after a 2 year relationship. what do i do?

This is just depressing.

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

Pick posted:

I don't--as I said, I think pornography reinforces it (heavily). So do jokes about small dicks, which is why I don't tell jokes about dick size even though they're still socially acceptable for some reason. But in return, it would be helpful if guys didn't say stuff like "I can't wait to see the tears in your eyes when you choke on it" because that's a big turn-off. (Or worse, the earlier daddy cummies in the no no zone or whatever the gently caress it was in the earlier story.)

my gf isnt a prude likes to be choked by daddys cock

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem

Pick posted:

I'm actually less tolerant of porn than I used to be because of how many guys have demonstrated to me that it informs their thinking and approach. If it didn't then I wouldn't care.

Same. Also, if someone in a relationship is jerkin it to porn a lot that is usually a good indicator that there is a larger problem.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

quote:

My[23M] girlfriend[24F] said the "N word" last night and it really upset me. Is this something to be worried about?

So me and my girlfriend (both white) were leaving a store this afternoon, and as we were driving a black dude honked at us. My girlfriend asked why he honked and I said that I didn't know. She responded "loving n**ger". Needless to say, I was kinda shocked and got a little upset. I mean, it made me think much less of her and made me question her character. I do love her, but that was a huge red flag...so reddit, do you think i'm over reacting? What would you have done?

tl;dr: girlfriend said racist poo poo

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
There is only one way to proceed: he must close her forum without warning.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Jim Jeffries had a show where he somehow landed a ridiculously hot woman with this exact problem. I forget how he solved it though, on the grounds that Jim Jeffries is not a good leading man and the show kind-of sucked.

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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Tender Bender posted:

I hope he visited You Look Like poo poo and is following goon advice to buy sheets of raw denim to cut and sew into his own jeans, which he never washes.

I want to believe. Is this a real thing?

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