uspol november: as it turns out they could not stump the trump

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Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

Mr Interweb posted:

So Trump backed off his promise to not touch medicare?

Well, suddenly I'm a lot more hopeful about 2018.

his infrastructure plan is also a scam compared to steve bannon's "alt-right New deal" wet dream so trump is on track to bigly gently caress up the economic populist part of fascism

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:34

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 04:25

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Zikan posted:

This is fine

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/800783052855119875

Again, Gabbard is racist human garbage and I'm glad she's giving people constant reminders. The Dems are idiots so it's not like they'll ever denounce her but it'd be nice.

Quorum posted:

Pretending the dumb slapfight isn't happening, I have to wonder if this isn't as much an attempt to scoop up disaffected Bernouts and cobble them into the alt right coalition as an approval of Tulsi's hawkishness. I've already talked to a couple of people who responded to this with "well maybe this means Trump isn't as bad as you Hillarybots made him out to be."

And this kind of poo poo is why. It's not "oh she's actually a loving sellout and opportunist" to many people, but rather "oh maybe Trump's not that bad because he reached across the aisle" to grab a lovely Democrat's support. Those people were a lost cause to begin with but the problem is them accepting it can give low information people a reason to further normalize Trump's insanity.

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/tbonier/status/800683256601575424

I'm pretty sure this rule change is why a Trumpist trucker I went to high school with was given a raise to around 70k a month or two ago (since he was making mid 40s but working 70+ hour weeks IIRC). I wonder if it's going to get walked back because if it does I can only imagine what his reaction would be. Considering he claimed his VA coverage sucked because of Obama and he was given an "Obama card" and that's why it sucked I'm sure his reaction to a loss of income would be totally rational.

I hope to God that on December 1st Obama holds a presser touting the overtime change and how it's going to give millions of Americans the pay they deserve. Put it front and center and pray that the media will stop being poo poo just long enough to cover the speech and the GOP's current plans to immediately kill it and gently caress over people.

Party Plane Jones posted:

In Michigan News:

Rick Synder's Michigan is an ever increasing horrorscape of Republican governance.

What a loving monster. I guess that's one way to try and ensure Michigan stays red in future elections?

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Pretty sure we're seeing the results of the huge brain drain that were the Hillary toxxes. We're the wreckage that was left over. Anyone get a count on how many were banned/perma banned?

A lot, and a few people who weren't banned up and left because they knew the forums were going to go to poo poo more than they already had.

Mnoba posted:

yase, rick snyder is the reason detroit schools are bankrupt and piss poor. It's no wonder Michigan went Republican, does sharing retarded sentiments like this in D&D make you feel better about black Detroit residents Democrats left to rot?

Yes, unironically. Rick Snyder is the reason the schools and the state in general is hosed sideways as he took it from "this is bad but fixable" to "lol look at these poors who want non-toxic water to drink" with his loving policies including impossible to remove municipal czars who did whatever they wanted. This isn't a matter of debate any more than "Kansas has been hosed in to the ground by Republicans" is. Snyder is a loving monster of a human being.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:35

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Steve Bannon's pal Tulsi Gabbard should face a primary challenge in 2018.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:35

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Main Paineframe posted:

Ah, yes, "people only voted for Hillary because she's a woman". Because as we all know, sexism works mostly in women's favor.

I... never said that. Just that some people were willing to overlook her shoddy past so they could make history and elect a woman president.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:35

Talmonis: Jun 24, 2012; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

SunAndSpring posted:

I wonder how the alt-right is gonna take this, considering that 4chan was a bastion for net neutrality support the last few times it came up. After all, 4chan and its descendant sites are the ones who stand to lose the most if net neutrality is implemented, as it's highly likely most ISPs will not want anything to do with them and will limit as much bandwidth as possible to those sites.

Hah, they're just the first on the docket for the night of gold painted knives.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:35

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

SunAndSpring posted:

I wonder how the alt-right is gonna take this, considering that 4chan was a bastion for net neutrality support the last few times it came up. After all, 4chan and its descendant sites are the ones who stand to lose the most if net neutrality is implemented, as it's highly likely most ISPs will not want anything to do with them and will limit as much bandwidth as possible to those sites.

Net neutrality wouldn't necessarily hurt the alt-right, getting rid of the safe harbor provision would, but no one has proposed that and the ramifications wouldn't be worth it.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:36

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Unzip and Attack posted:

Considering your rap sheet you have about zero room to talk. Seriously.

Also your rap sheet has 3 probations so... who are you talk?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:37

BarbarianElephant: Feb 12, 2015; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Trabisnikof posted:

Besides is there a more elitist coastal issue than Net Neutrality? Who cares about the internet when the factories aren't reopening yet and Mexicans and Muslims roam free?

Plus, in these areas, the internet already sucks so they won't notice it got worse. It's definitely the "coastal elites" that are "cutting the cord" - no-one else has fast enough internet to do so. Even if they do use streaming, it's likely the catch-up service their cable provides, which will be privileged.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:37

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

I... never said that. Just that some people were willing to overlook her shoddy past so they could make history and elect a woman president.

maybe a handful of people were

more were willing to overlook her past because they wanted to continue the obama administration or at least because gently caress trump

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:37

Ever Disappointing: May 4, 2004

Talmonis posted:

Why no you see, it's truly the fault of internet democrats who hurt racist dickbags feelings that made them vote for Trump. It all makes sense really.

Holy poo poo can we stop with the "but no, you see" posts. Its the most frustrating thing in these threads and it happened twice on the same page just now and I need to speak up

It's a strawman tactic even if you make a good point and makes me groan. Anyone else annoyed by this?

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:37

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

Trabisnikof posted:

Besides is there a more elitist coastal issue than Net Neutrality? Who cares about the internet when the factories aren't reopening yet and Mexicans and Muslims roam free?

Eh...nowadays a TON of right-wingers rely on the internet to get the REAL NEWS. In this world where even Fox is probably funded by George Soros, conservatives rely on places like Breitbart and Libertypatriots.net more than ever.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:37

the black husserl: Feb 25, 2005

SunAndSpring posted:

I wonder how the alt-right is gonna take this, considering that 4chan was a bastion for net neutrality support the last few times it came up. After all, 4chan and its descendant sites are the ones who stand to lose the most if net neutrality is implemented, as it's highly likely most ISPs will not want anything to do with them and will limit as much bandwidth as possible to those sites.

Some of them will deny that it's happening but the overwhelming majority will gleefully change positions in a second. Yes master! Hit us harder!! We love the pain!! HARDER!!!

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:38

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Gringostar posted:

gently caress you was the name of my old account

Aw that's no fun.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:38

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Remember the last time net neutrality was in the news and "keep the government out of my internet; the government wants to nationalize the internet!" were talking points lol

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:39

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Gringostar posted:

maybe a handful of people were

more were willing to overlook her past because they wanted to continue the obama administration or at least because gently caress trump

Yea, pretty much this.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:39

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Also your rap sheet has 3 probations so... who are you talk?

32 > 3

Mr Interweb posted:

Eh...nowadays a TON of right-wingers rely on the internet to get the REAL NEWS. In this world where even Fox is probably funded by George Soros, conservatives rely on places like Breitbart and Libertypatriots.net more than ever.

Yeah but I bet places like SA and rando blogs won't be hurt, we aren't real bandwidth hogs. Now try to start a new Twitch.tv competitor? Ooops, you can't pay enough for HD streaming to free users.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:39

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Zikan posted:

his infrastructure plan is also a scam compared to steve bannon's "alt-right New deal" wet dream so trump is on track to bigly gently caress up the economic populist part of fascism

It's gonna be really weird when Breitbart swings hard against Trump. I wonder if Bannon's economic part outweighs his racist part.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:39

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

So, if 2016 couldn't get any more worse!
https://twitter.com/motokorich/status/800810028789706752

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:40

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Tir McDohl posted:

Holy poo poo can we stop with the "but no, you see" posts. Its the most frustrating thing in these threads and it happened twice on the same page just now and I need to speak up

It's a strawman tactic even if you make a good point and makes me groan. Anyone else annoyed by this?

Also the economic anxiety poo poo, give it a rest. These socioeconomically disadvantaged people aren't all racists and painting them with a broad brush does more harm than good.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:40

Talmonis: Jun 24, 2012; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Tir McDohl posted:

Holy poo poo can we stop with the "but no, you see" posts. Its the most frustrating thing in these threads and it happened twice on the same page just now and I need to speak up

It's a strawman tactic even if you make a good point and makes me groan. Anyone else annoyed by this?

My apologies. I'm super salty today about Trump supporters and their bullshit. Apparently they're going around to Starbucks and putting his name on their orders to make the employees yell out "Trump," and throwing shitfits when they refuse. Nothing but a bunch of petty assholes.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:40

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Admiral Ray posted:

It's gonna be really weird when Breitbart swings hard against Trump. I wonder if Bannon's economic part outweighs his racist part.

Bannon wants to destroy the establishment republican party so I'd actually put the odds at 50/50 there even when my gut is telling me that of course his racism will beat his economics.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:41

white sauce: Apr 29, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Trabisnikof posted:

32 > 3

3 is not equal to zero :ssh:

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:41

TheBigAristotle: Feb 8, 2007; I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.; Grimey Drawer

Anyone got a few links to why Tulsi Gabbard sucks? She's outside my political radar, Hawaii barely exists to me, nothing personal.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:41

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

TheBigAristotle posted:

Anyone got a few links to why Tulsi Gabbard sucks? She's outside my political radar, Hawaii barely exists to me, nothing personal.

Her and McCain are pretty much the same when it comes to FP.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:42

Zeeman: May 8, 2007; Say WHAT?! You KNOW that post is wack, homie!

A bit of good news, hopefully: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...8cc72ee068.html

quote:

A panel of federal judges on Monday ruled that Wisconsin's 2011 legislative redistricting plan, created by Republican leaders virtually in secret, is an unconstitutional partisan gerrymander.
...

The Democrats contend that they have found a way to measure unconstitutional partisan gerrymanders that are designed to give an extreme and durable advantage in elections to one party, a measure that the U.S. Supreme Court has said it was lacking. The measure, called the efficiency gap, shows how cracking (breaking up blocs of Democratic voters) and packing (concentrating Democrats within certain districts) results in wasted votes -- excess votes for one party in safe districts and votes for losing candidates in those safe districts.
...

With this decision, partisan gerrymandering should come to an end in Wisconsin and is now on its way to extinction across the nation," Hebert said. "And with the implementation of the test we proposed and the court accepted, there will be, for the first time, a standard to identify this harmful practice."

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:42

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

iospace posted:

So, if 2016 couldn't get any more worse!
https://twitter.com/motokorich/status/800810028789706752

Looking forward to president trump using natural disasters as leverage to get favorable terms for Trump Towers being built.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:43

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Zikan posted:

his infrastructure plan is also a scam compared to steve bannon's "alt-right New deal" wet dream so trump is on track to bigly gently caress up the economic populist part of fascism

Right now there really isn't even much of a plan beyond general ideas. The GOP Congress is waiting on one.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:43

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Zeeman posted:

A bit of good news, hopefully: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...8cc72ee068.html

First of all, the new SCOTUS will overturn this.

Second, if they don't congress will.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:43

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Zeeman posted:

A bit of good news, hopefully: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...8cc72ee068.html

In a 5-4 decision, the majority opinion, authored by Associate Justice Moore...

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:44

Ever Disappointing: May 4, 2004

Talmonis posted:

My apologies. I'm super salty today about Trump supporters and their bullshit. Apparently they're going around to Starbucks and putting his name on their orders to make the employees yell out "Trump," and throwing shitfits when they refuse. Nothing but a bunch of petty assholes.

It is pretty funny how self-defeating a Starbucks protest is when they are paying for that coffee though.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:44

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Gringostar posted:

First of all, the new SCOTUS will overturn this.

The new SCOTUS is the same as the old SCOTUS and I'm going to start calling people dipshits for already assuming the entire judiciary is stacked.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:45

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

Zeeman posted:

A bit of good news, hopefully: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...8cc72ee068.html

Just in time for the new Supreme Court to rip it to shreds. :dance:

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:46

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Fojar38 posted:

The new SCOTUS is the same as the old SCOTUS and I'm going to start calling people dipshits for already assuming the entire judiciary is stacked.

Until RGB, Breyer, or even Kennedy kicks it.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:46

Talmonis: Jun 24, 2012; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Tir McDohl posted:

It is pretty funny how self-defeating a Starbucks protest is when they are paying for that coffee though.

Oh absolutely. But bullying wage workers when they can't fight back is very consistent for that sort of mind.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:46

demonicon: Mar 29, 2011

So I am here. Reading all the messages you guys have. Feeling a bit guilty because of My whiteness but then reading all your terrible polotics you want to implement.

You guys are the reason the left didnt win. Your college un realism your loving wrong optimism your lovely view of the world from the eye of one spoiled child is the reason the left will never win.

The problem is that you guys are caring about problems the average family doesn't even know about. The bigger problem is that you guys don't even know about the problems a typical family has in the US.

And do you know why you will never win? Because 90% of you guys reading that will say that they care more about Trans gender than the typical US family.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:47

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Fojar38 posted:

The new SCOTUS is the same as the old SCOTUS and I'm going to start calling people dipshits for already assuming the entire judiciary is stacked.

The four liberal Justice have been signaling a desire to examine gerrymandering for a while but there's no real evidence Kennedy wants to hop on that train. Without Hypothetical Justice Ginsburg2 I don't think there are five votes for this nationally.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:47

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Zeeman posted:

A bit of good news, hopefully: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...8cc72ee068.html

I'll get overturned by SCOTUS :smith:

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:48

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

demonicon posted:

So I am here. Reading all the messages you guys have. Feeling a bit guilty because of My whiteness but then reading all your terrible polotics you want to implement.

You guys are the reason the left didnt win. Your college un realism your loving wrong optimism your lovely view of the world from the eye of one spoiled child is the reason the left will never win.

The problem is that you guys are caring about problems the average family doesn't even know about. The bigger problem is that you guys don't even know about the problems a typical family has in the US.

And do you know why you will never win? Because 90% of you guys reading that will say that they care more about Trans gender than the typical US family.

Transgender people are part of the typical US family friend. They're your friend, your cousin, your daughter. Just the same as gay people, if fewer in number!

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:48

C2C - 2.0: May 14, 2006; Dubs In The Key Of Life; Lipstick Apathy

demonicon posted:

So I am here. Reading all the messages you guys have. Feeling a bit guilty because of My whiteness but then reading all your terrible polotics you want to implement.

You guys are the reason the left didnt win. Your college un realism your loving wrong optimism your lovely view of the world from the eye of one spoiled child is the reason the left will never win.

The problem is that you guys are caring about problems the average family doesn't even know about. The bigger problem is that you guys don't even know about the problems a typical family has in the US.

And do you know why you will never win? Because 90% of you guys reading that will say that they care more about Trans gender than the typical US family.

What are the "typical family problems" & how is Trump and his ilk going to fix them?

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Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

Quorum posted:

Transgender people are part of the typical US family friend.

No one likes to bring up aunt frank my dude.

# ? Nov 21, 2016 22:50

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