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i really love politics
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Dec 14, 2016 09:34
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Its the only interesting topic, aside from war. And weapons. Which are a sort of politics too!
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Dec 14, 2016 09:35
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ok If you like arguing about meaningless crap then, ok
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Dec 14, 2016 09:36
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politics is actually really funny and watching terrible people lose was great I mean the dnd election thread is still just endless posts calling everybody a racist so really many people have learned nothing and it's gonna be equally satisfying watching them meltdown in 2020
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Dec 14, 2016 09:44
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we joke about cspam not mattering in the real world, but there's some pretty cool stuff that's already happened in the dpp thread and i recommend people get involved to kick their local party into shape
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Zo posted:politics is actually really funny and watching terrible people lose was great HorseRenoir posted:we joke about cspam not mattering in the real world, but there's some pretty cool stuff that's already happened in the dpp thread and i recommend people get involved to kick their local party into shape I don't pretend to know what these posts are talking about but I haven't paid attention to politics in roughly 16 years, and I've been unaffected in any material way. Maybe now it'll be different?
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Dec 14, 2016 09:47
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Democratic Party Participation http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3800657
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Dec 14, 2016 09:47
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The Kingfish posted:Huey Long was the left's Donald Trump. If that sounds too weird to be true, then do yourself a favor and read T. Harry Williams' biography of Long and then report back here to shitpost about him with me. I'm going to do this.
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Dec 14, 2016 09:48
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THORIUM posted:I love the "take it elsewhere" response Yes, I breathlessly await the last desperate attempt of all true partisans to suck the last drop of cum out of Sanders' shriveled, impotent, circumcised dick believing it to be the golden nectar that will save a dying, it's not, and ailing, it's not, Democratic Party. Suck harder brave soul, your country needs you.
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Dec 14, 2016 09:54
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radical meme posted:Yes, I breathlessly await the last desperate attempt of all true partisans to suck the last drop of cum out of Sanders' shriveled, impotent, circumcised dick believing it to be the golden nectar that will save a dying, it's not, and ailing, it's not, Democratic Party. Suck harder brave soul, your country needs you. You, uh, are aware the Democratic Party doesn't have control of any branch of federal government, right? And also that the Dems are basically non-existent in the majority of state governments? And also that 'the most qualified candidate of all time' just lost to a carnival barker? What would it take to come to terms with the fact that the Dems need a change up? E: And the majority of the last 8 years of Democratic policy can be undone with a pen stroke, since much of it relies on executive order because Obama didn't really accomplish much legislatively (and the complete Republican control of all branches will eviscerate the legislative accomplishments)
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Dec 14, 2016 09:57
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It always amazes me how upset people get over this presidential election crap. It doesn't matter who's president, the rich run everything, like they always have. Study some history, drat.
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Dec 14, 2016 09:59
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The Kingfish posted:Huey probably did more for the black people of LA then any governor in history. Probably did more for the poor in his state than any single governor in history. We aren't nearly lucky enough to have had a man like Huey in the Whitehouse. hes a very complicated, unusual guy to be sure, and im extremely frustrated by the lack of decent historiography about him. feels like coverage of his life either completely elides over the racial aspects, like his programs that got textbooks to black school children, or totally lionizes him by pretending he wasnt a vicious race-baiter. i think that modern conceptions of political thought just dont have very good framworks for discussing Huey Long
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Dec 14, 2016 10:02
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"poo poo, at least Louisiana's got roads. Some states only get graft."
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Dec 14, 2016 10:03
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Not a Step posted:You, uh, are aware the Democratic Party doesn't have control of any branch of federal government, right? And also that the Dems are basically non-existent in the majority of state governments? And also that 'the most qualified candidate of all time' just lost to a carnival barker? Yes, and obviously that change is an old, white, self-proclaimed socialist, Jew, from Vermont that isn't even a Democrat. And, there are so many solid socialist legislators that have been elected to State and Federal positions over the last 100 years. How could I have not seen it, the future was staring us in the face the whole time and we all missed it. It's so clear now.
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Dec 14, 2016 10:05
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radical meme posted:Yes, and obviously that change is an old, white, self-proclaimed socialist, Jew, from Vermont that isn't even a Democrat. And, there are so many solid socialist legislators that have been elected to State and Federal positions over the last 100 years. How could I have not seen it, the future was staring us in the face the whole time and we all missed it. It's so clear now. OH poo poo!!! HES A JEW!!! WTF?!?!?
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Dec 14, 2016 10:11
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I was all for Bernie, but now that I know hes a jew, well, im gonna have to think about some things.
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Dec 14, 2016 10:11
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The election was anti semetic enough..
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Dec 14, 2016 10:13
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radical meme posted:Yes, and obviously that change is an old, white, self-proclaimed socialist, Jew, from Vermont that isn't even a Democrat. And, there are so many solid socialist legislators that have been elected to State and Federal positions over the last 100 years. How could I have not seen it, the future was staring us in the face the whole time and we all missed it. It's so clear now. i'm open to supporting sanders in 2020, if he runs again. why not? he may very well be a solid matchup against trump. but outside of that, is it a viable path for the democratic party? i think it remains to be seen - the fact that the bernie endorsing people running on his platform have not had much success at the primary level doesn't give me a lot of optimism that they can capture hearts and minds with a less ideologically friendly general electorate. but 2018 might be a pretty good proving grounds to show otherwise, so we'll see.
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Dec 14, 2016 10:21
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radical meme posted:Yes, and obviously that change is an old, white, self-proclaimed socialist, Jew, from Vermont that isn't even a Democrat. And, there are so many solid socialist legislators that have been elected to State and Federal positions over the last 100 years. How could I have not seen it, the future was staring us in the face the whole time and we all missed it. It's so clear now. Candidate Response 1, A woman: Naturally suggesting that being a woman should be an obstacle to running for presidency is despicable, and she shouldn't be blamed for the effects of sexism of the American people. Candidate Response 2, A Jew: Are you nuts, you would run a loving Jew in the general election? Think pragmatically, for crying out loud!
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Dec 14, 2016 10:53
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Keith Ellison for chair? Isn't he a little - you know what, and - ya know what I mean - ya know what I'm sayin?
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Dec 14, 2016 11:11
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We want someone who represents The Majority a bit more, is I think what you're trying to say.
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Dec 14, 2016 11:13
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loquacius posted:the UK is a different country from America and an entirely different set of circumstances caused the Brexit vote than caused Trump's victory Look at how wrong you are, seriously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPDd9cibY9A
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Dec 14, 2016 11:21
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paranoid randroid posted:hes a very complicated, unusual guy to be sure, and im extremely frustrated by the lack of decent historiography about him. feels like coverage of his life either completely elides over the racial aspects, like his programs that got textbooks to black school children, or totally lionizes him by pretending he wasnt a vicious race-baiter. huey was a racist rear end in a top hat. his policies both helped and hurt black people in a variety of ways. yet he was probably better than any other governor for black people in the entire deep south from the 1870s till the 60s, and he was under constant attack because some of his policies didnt in discriminate and benefited black people.  the south was pretty goddamn poo poo.
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Dec 14, 2016 11:27
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"Was?" I've lived in either Texas or Georgia my whole life and let me tell you the past tense is not appropriate.
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Dec 14, 2016 11:28
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ScrubLeague posted:"Was?" I've lived in either Texas or Georgia my whole life and let me tell you the past tense is not appropriate. yeah but it was even more back then
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Dec 14, 2016 11:30
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Well yeah sure but at least now that for the most part we see the War On Minorities as won, we can take on majorities, like the women.
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Dec 14, 2016 11:32
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:This is the reason the Hillary/The DNC Platform is total garbage. They don't actually want things to change. Wealth inequality is GOOD for the 1%. Insurance Companies raping the salaried class is GOOD for the 1% who benefit from those profits. Ignoring the environment is GOOD for the 1% who benefit from the energy sector profits. Pitting Social Justice against things like UHC, GMI or Free College for everyone benefits only the Capitalist. Hi logikv9, can you please stop using your position as mod to probate people for good posts that simply disagree with your lovely neoliberal philosophy that has been proven to fail? the workers of c-spam will thank you logikv9 posted:obviously what should have been done: started negotiating on the position of full socialist healthcare now, and then meet in the middle at the public option. bing bong so simple, says the moron Also please describe what your imagined "full socialist healthcare" is. Is it the same system that every single modern industrialized country in the world has? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 14, 2016 11:40
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steinrokkan posted:Candidate Response 1, A woman: Naturally suggesting that being a woman should be an obstacle to running for presidency is despicable, and she shouldn't be blamed for the effects of sexism of the American people. Remember when the DNC got caught trying to strategize how to point out Bernie's Jewish problem?
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Dec 14, 2016 12:09
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Remember when the DNC got caught trying to strategize how to point out Bernie's Jewish problem? Its pretty ironic that the DNCs bigotry helped lead to the most bigoted candidate in decades winning. Do you think the Democrats will learn anything about some mud being too vile to sling at the people nominally on your side? Oh, Keith Ellison cant connect with voters because reasons? You dont say.
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Dec 14, 2016 13:16
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Not a Step posted:Its pretty ironic that the DNCs bigotry helped lead to the most bigoted candidate in decades winning. ScrubLeague posted:Well yeah sure but at least now that for the most part we see the War On Minorities as won, we can take on majorities, like the women. It is interesting how the predominant bigotries in society are slowly accelerating to encompass the greatest mass. From "coloreds", to Muslims, and now to the opposite sex in general. There's a dialectical process even to the forces of reaction. At some point in the near future, assuming we don't completely gently caress everything up, there may be no more great Others to fear and conspire against.
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Dec 14, 2016 13:18
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punk rebel ecks posted:The fillerbuster is bad and needs to go away. Cloture should also be limited to 55 members. The cloture threshold is the filibuster, so your two rules change ideas are contradictory.
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Dec 14, 2016 13:29
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Cool, liberals are now the JBS. https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/808846556929654784
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Dec 14, 2016 13:32
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Wasn't it more they were trying to go after him for his atheist problem? Which as a nonbeliever pisses me off, personally. I think the email implied they could try to get him admit he doesn't believe in god by planting the right question. As if that's unsavory thing to not believe.
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Dec 14, 2016 13:34
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Their strategy was to try and accuse of him being a "fake jew"
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paranoid randroid posted:hes a very complicated, unusual guy to be sure, and im extremely frustrated by the lack of decent historiography about him. feels like coverage of his life either completely elides over the racial aspects, like his programs that got textbooks to black school children, or totally lionizes him by pretending he wasnt a vicious race-baiter. Long was a weird political figure, but I think he is best defined as an unrepentant opportunist. he had no issue throwing black people to the wolves to win votes, but would then turn right around and institute social programs that benefited them as much as white people (as much as Jim Crow would allow, and Long had no interest in fighting that). from what I've read, most of the opposition to him on that front was organized by the elites that he was fighting against, personified in the Klan. the fact that his popular support wasn't broken by that gives me at least some marginal hope for our own future
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Dec 14, 2016 13:41
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loving best campaign ever http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michigan-hillary-clinton-trump-232547
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Dec 14, 2016 14:04
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:loving best campaign ever words cannot express how much i hate the dnc, the clintons, and hillary's campaign staff oh my god they are detestable people literally no major figure in this election was a good person outside of bernie
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Baloogan posted:i really love politics Baloogan posted:Its the only interesting topic, aside from war. And weapons. Which are a sort of politics too! Cool preview of the next poppy video script.
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