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Fingers McLongDong posted:So I played a little bit of DQVI and otherwise have never played a dq game before now and I picked up dq8. Anything I should know going in? Only points I've allocated so far at lvl 6 were to get my MC up to level 2 in swords. Do I get enough points for all skills or should I be skimpy? Any early advantages or missables? For skills, you get enough to max out two trees at the end of the game, but you can just min/max allocation since a lot of the 100 point skills like Gigaslash aren't actually very good (they do a lot of damage but you can't really spam them since they cost so much MP). Just investing in two trees is good enough for a fresh play through. You eventually get an alchemy pot to make stuff from items and equipment, so saving your old stuff is a good idea until you know it can't be used.
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If you're like me and giving the hero spears, one of the prizes (3rd or 4th?) that Cameron gives you for taking pictures is a Holy Lance. I made one right in the middle of the Ascantha detour and then got a free one just after I finished  Also, I got it even though I was completely ignoring the monster picture challenges, so you can probably pick it up sooner if you're diligent about that.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:So I played a little bit of DQVI and otherwise have never played a dq game before now and I picked up dq8. Anything I should know going in? Only points I've allocated so far at lvl 6 were to get my MC up to level 2 in swords. Do I get enough points for all skills or should I be skimpy? Any early advantages or missables? Be warned that you can't reallocate skill points.
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Tired Moritz posted:Aww what the hell. I wished I kmew you couldn't sell stuff anymore after you visit the casino in Torneko's chapter. What the hell am I gonna do with only 13 catcury swords Load your last save file and don't visit the casino yet?
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Jan 24, 2017 04:35
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Am I retarded or is getting Munchie up the broom super finicky? I keep falling off the fucker like some sort of Dark Souls level platform to walk. Edit: of course right after asking I get it.
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Friend told me to gamble in the pickham casino so I can get the white plate or whatever for Jessica I don't think I've ever bothered with Casinos in this game. Should I just like, save and reload the healslime machine until I win big?
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Jan 24, 2017 06:23
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Friend told me to gamble in the pickham casino so I can get the white plate or whatever for Jessica This is what I did.
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boz posted:This is what I did. I abused quicksave on the slots until was able to get enough coins to max bet (100) on the slime bingo, where i then won enough to buy everything in the casino several times over in like 20 minutes.
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Jan 24, 2017 06:29
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Bongo Bill posted:Photo ops. I am figuring the photo op to get Red (which I got) is missing if you don't do this before she joins your party?
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Rirse posted:I am figuring the photo op to get Red (which I got) is missing if you don't do this before she joins your party? You can add any party member into your photos. I assume that should count for the challenge.
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Jan 24, 2017 07:57
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Seems like they added quite a few new monsters to recruit for your arena team. Anyone find some new good ones that could make doing the laters ranks before the midgame boss? Talos still can't carry A rank alone.
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Jan 24, 2017 08:55
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Just to make sure, the casino tokens don't disappear when you finish a chapter in DQ4, right?
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Rirse posted:I am figuring the photo op to get Red (which I got) is missing if you don't do this before she joins your party? I'm pretty sure you can't miss any of the photo challenges; I just got morrie and he goes back to his usual place as an npc if you go back into the arena. e: I'm also thinking Red would do the same thing because she presumably still gives you the flail. ROFL Octopus fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Jan 24, 2017 09:22
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Tired Moritz posted:Just to make sure, the casino tokens don't disappear when you finish a chapter in DQ4, right? Nope, you keep them.
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Jan 24, 2017 10:07
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Is there anything different in DQ8 other than picking up new characters that would otherwise make the main game different than the PS2 version? I've played it many times but use a guide to make sure I don't miss treasure.
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Bigass Moth posted:Is there anything different in DQ8 other than picking up new characters that would otherwise make the main game different than the PS2 version? I've played it many times but use a guide to make sure I don't miss treasure. New photography quest has some early alchemy level rewards if you keep up with it. There are new monsters you can recruit for the monster arena. There are new weapons and alchemy recipes for Red/Morrie as they get new weapon types. There are more mini-medals and some have been moved. The original 4 characters had their skill trees changed and rebalanced. Angelo's skill points aren't nearly as backloaded, Helmsplitter reduces 1/4 def instead of 1/2, Twin Dragon Lash is now two hits of .9x instead of two 1.5x hits etc.
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Jan 24, 2017 15:06
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Some of the treasure chests on the overworld are now blue, which means they are restocked over time, but I don't know what triggers it. Dungeon maps are given to you automatically, and the chests that used to contain them now have gold.
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Bongo Bill posted:Some of the treasure chests on the overworld are now blue, which means they are restocked over time, but I don't know what triggers it. Dungeon maps are given to you automatically, and the chests that used to contain them now have gold. Blue chests refresh once a day IIRC, though I am not sure at what time.
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Bongo Bill posted:Some of the treasure chests on the overworld are now blue, which means they are restocked over time, but I don't know what triggers it. Dungeon maps are given to you automatically, and the chests that used to contain them now have gold. Apparently it's when your 3ds clock hits midnight.
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Jan 24, 2017 16:36
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Who would you suggest removing from the party to fit Red and Morris in anyway? The main 4 seem so... balanced that removing one just sounds bizarre to me. Also is the script changed at all or do you unlock Red and Morrie and they don't say a single thing the rest of the game?
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Jan 24, 2017 16:37
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Who would you suggest removing from the party to fit Red and Morris in anyway? The main 4 seem so... balanced that removing one just sounds bizarre to me. I had this same thought about who to remove but its actually quite simple: You of course want to use both new characters because NEW You would never get rid of my boy Yangus since he's the best Sorry Jess and Angelo.
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Jan 24, 2017 16:42
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MMF Freeway posted:I had this same thought about who to remove but its actually quite simple: You can switch out for free mid-battle so just do that.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Who would you suggest removing from the party to fit Red and Morris in anyway? The main 4 seem so... balanced that removing one just sounds bizarre to me. Yangus and Angelo. Your hero heals better than Angelo does anyway (He gets Omniheal and MP cost reductions) only being short Kazing... which Jessica or Red can get for you (Though for Red, it's not Kazing but rather Fan's reviving move), and Red can pull backup healer with fullheal, while Yangus... never really did much of anything to begin with. His two things were criticals, which Morrie has in his club line (and a Spear Hero also has anyway), and stealing from scythes, which Red actually does passively. Morrie, meanwhile, debuffs enemies ignores defense with Claws, and can AoE murder metal slimes with Metalicker on Boomerangs.
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Jan 24, 2017 16:47
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Man they fixed the infinite money exploit from the jp version.  At least it's easy to farm gold golems since you can guarantee their spawning.
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Zaggitz posted:Man they fixed the infinite money exploit from the jp version. What was the exploit? If it's fixed I don't even have to worry about wanting to do it.
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super spicy cheese prices would never go down so you could make them for very little money and sell them at a huge profit
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Supremezero posted:Yangus and Angelo. Your hero heals better than Angelo does anyway (He gets Omniheal and MP cost reductions) only being short Kazing... which Jessica or Red can get for you (Though for Red, it's not Kazing but rather Fan's reviving move), and Red can pull backup healer with fullheal, while Yangus... never really did much of anything to begin with. His two things were criticals, which Morrie has in his club line (and a Spear Hero also has anyway), and stealing from scythes, which Red actually does passively. Morrie, meanwhile, debuffs enemies ignores defense with Claws, and can AoE murder metal slimes with Metalicker on Boomerangs. I'd say Angelo is better than Jessica in this version, pretty much due to the whip nerf. She's consistently been my weakest link, both in damage and (obviously) survivability. Hero's omniheal is more or less an endgame thing, unless you're ramming courage at the expense of everything else. (Which is a Bad Idea) Angelo's omniheal also frees up the hero to attack and by endgame he'll be get be getting passive tension through the timbrel so multiheal will function like omniheal most of the time anyway. Plus he works better for random encounters with his kickass instant-death spells. Anyway, that's my  response. In actuality you should use everyone because they're all extremely cool.e: Yangus also received a massive buff in this game in that he can dress like a pirate
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I never really figured out the deal with sell prices beyond "you get less money the more of an item you sell"
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Wait, you can change the appearance of your characters beyond their weapon and shield? I'm tired of Yangus's hat.
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Emron posted:Wait, you can change the appearance of your characters beyond their weapon and shield? I'm tired of Yangus's hat. Some equipment sets cause an appearance change, yes. In the PS2 version most were for Jessica (of course) with one being for the hero. This version adds more for the other characters, going by promotional stuff.
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Zaggitz posted:super spicy cheese prices would never go down so you could make them for very little money and sell them at a huge profit Luckily they don't seem to have touched magic water sell prices ever. They're essentially converting casino coins to 150% gold. I also wouldn't be surprised if some other item at least had a decent "after x sold, increase value, tank after y' like the medicines used to have in the PS2 release--Japanese wikis just probably didn't even bother listing out such items when they had the super spicy cheese option. Gold Golem farming is easy, but not as easy to do while doing something else compared to casino coin farming and still not much better than it was on PS2 since they also cut the gold per golem by half.
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I'm not very far but so far Jessica is extremely disappointing, especially compared to how she's an angel of death in DQ Heroes
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Genocyber posted:Some equipment sets cause an appearance change, yes. In the PS2 version most were for Jessica (of course) with one being for the hero. This version adds more for the other characters, going by promotional stuff. Jessica still has the lion's share with nine. Everyone else has one (Yangus, Morrie), two (Hero, Angelo) or three (Red) This page has all of them. Note most are post-game stuff. http://dq8.org/dq8_3ds_renkin.html Zore fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jan 24, 2017 |
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Emron posted:Wait, you can change the appearance of your characters beyond their weapon and shield? I'm tired of Yangus's hat. For Yangus: Hat: Bandana + Tough Guy Tattoo + Coral Hairpin Armor: Plain Clothes + Coral Hairpin + Bandit Mail Bandit Mail is made with Bandit Axe (Battle Axe + Thief's Key) + Heavy Armor + Bandit's Grass Skirt
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One selling point they were pushing for this version was more backstory cutscenes for the hero and dhoulmagus. When exactly do these happen? Cause I'm about to go kill Dhoulmagus and haven't seen any new cutscenes yet.
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I'm either super bad at the game or undergeared as all hell because I just got two shot by the second boss.
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Len posted:I'm either super bad at the game or undergeared as all hell because I just got two shot by the second boss. Probably neither. That boss just kinda sucks but it has a pattern that makes it easymodo ROFL Octopus posted:That boss has pattern it uses 100% of the time:
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Zaggitz posted:One selling point they were pushing for this version was more backstory cutscenes for the hero and dhoulmagus. When exactly do these happen? Cause I'm about to go kill Dhoulmagus and haven't seen any new cutscenes yet. Postgame, I think.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Also is the script changed at all or do you unlock Red and Morrie and they don't say a single thing the rest of the game? This is what I'm curious about, are cutscene rejiggered to integrate the new party members?
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