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Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Johnny Joestar posted:

i highly doubt it has somehow stalled development on anything else

hahahahahahahahahahaha

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Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

ZearothK posted:

I feel if that was going to happen it would already have, since the game contradicts information on the town's size, but who cares because the game is awesome.



I still can't believe they blew all this up for the carnival of genericness and blanditude that is Age of Sigmar :(

edit: it's me, i'm the nerd complaining about AoS. Y'all can just deal with it

Zephro fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jan 24, 2017

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Zephro posted:

I still can't believe they blew all this up for the carnival of genericness and blanditude that is Age of Sigmar :(

edit: it's me, i'm the nerd complaining about AoS. Y'all can just deal with it

To be fair, it's always worth complaining about AoS.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug

Mzbundifund posted:

Can't wait to see the ancient Warhammer supernerds find every tiny detail that slightly condtradicts some sponsored novel published in 1996 and shriek about it until the wine glasses crack.

*hand waving* warping power of Chaos yadda yadda.

Technically if the 'Chaos gods' got bored of AoS they could roll everything back to pre-End Times and it would be perfectly reasonable given the setting and all the other poo poo they pull.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Aleth posted:

*hand waving* warping power of Chaos yadda yadda.

Technically if the 'Chaos gods' got bored of AoS they could roll everything back to pre-End Times and it would be perfectly reasonable given the setting and all the other poo poo they pull.

I don't even demand the destruction of AoS or anything to do it, I just want the new and pretty good CEO to run it back like "And then Karl Franz woke in a cold sweat, horrified at the future he saw so vividly laid out in his dreams, but resolved more than ever to prevent it" and then production resumes on the setting again.

I hope you enjoyed my stupid fanfiction to reverse AoS at least in some part enough to have WHFB and it coexisting. :v:

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Yardbomb posted:

I don't even demand the destruction of AoS or anything to do it, I just want the new and pretty good CEO to run it back like "And then Karl Franz woke in a cold sweat, horrified at the future he saw so vividly laid out in his dreams, but resolved more than ever to prevent it" and then production resumes on the setting again.

Creative Assembly is doing Warhammer Fantasy Battles better and more affordably than GW have ever done. Shame about Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay though.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

ZearothK posted:

Creative Assembly is doing Warhammer Fantasy Battles better and more affordably than GW have ever done. Shame about Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay though.

I mean there's already a shitload of material for it, at least.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Coolguye posted:

it's ostensibly an open question how Fester got affluent enough to afford so many eshin, moulder, and skyre specialists because by all accounts in both the fluff and crunch they do not come cheap (skaven specialists are really point-heavy in the tabletop), but anyone asking that question seriously should basically loudly told to stab more rat

It's the end times what are they going to need that money for

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Also just random bit but I grabbed the lupomod thing the other day, playing in 3rd person owns real hard and I'm struggling to turn it off any at all lately, I'm still getting most damage, most specials killed, all that sorta thing.

So since I'm not handicapping my teams or anything, it's just like why even care to turn it off if I'm having so much fun with it. :madmax:

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

Coolguye posted:

it's ostensibly an open question how Fester got affluent enough to afford so many eshin, moulder, and skyre specialists because by all accounts in both the fluff and crunch they do not come cheap (skaven specialists are really point-heavy in the tabletop), but anyone asking that question seriously should basically loudly told to stab more rat

How does one go about hiring a Skaven Specialist?

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

You promise them a pound of wyrdstone after you crash the moon down.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

You promise them a pound of wyrdstone after you crash the moon down.

"You just wait-wait, after this, Mordheim look like pebble fall-fall on it in comparison."

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Wouldn't pebble be the word emphasized? :goonsay:

jubelio
Dec 10, 2003
if you can balance a tac-hammer on your head, you can head off your opponent with a balanced attack

SkySteak posted:

How does one go about hiring a Skaven Specialist?

One of the things I love most about skaven is the complexity of their political system and the simple raw violence that get mixed together in the governance of rat society. Even a relatively low level clan leader can rise quickly in power with a cunningly devised negotiation, assassination, blackmail, or maybe he just ate a bunch of warpstone, grew to twice his original size and ate a few other clan leaders and tripled the size of his clan by 'appropriating' the other clans. Asking a rat how it got something is about as dangerous and nebulous as eating some of that warpstone, you dont know exactly what will happen, but you're unlikely to glean any truth out of the experience.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Yardbomb posted:

Also just random bit but I grabbed the lupomod thing the other day, playing in 3rd person owns real hard and I'm struggling to turn it off any at all lately, I'm still getting most damage, most specials killed, all that sorta thing.

So since I'm not handicapping my teams or anything, it's just like why even care to turn it off if I'm having so much fun with it. :madmax:
I would guess third person is a buff because then you can see the butt-stabbing rats that are the cause of 90% of all deaths in this game

edit:

quote:

I hope you enjoyed my stupid fanfiction to reverse AoS at least in some part enough to have WHFB and it coexisting.
There's literally no reason they couldn't support both, but nope. You can have babby's first fantasy setting by Spike, aged 13 and a half, who wants to be a copyright lawyer when he grows up, or you can have nothing.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Zephro posted:

I would guess third person is a buff because then you can see the butt-stabbing rats that are the cause of 90% of all deaths in this game

There's a sound the game plays for those

Syrnn
Aug 16, 2004

jubelio posted:

One of the things I love most about skaven is the complexity of their political system



Children of the Horned Rat is one of the most brilliant supplements that I will never get a group chill enough to use. :negative:

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

There's a sound the game plays for those

Yeah the whoosh when you're about to get hit is so helpful. It's a pretty small window to react but unless you're already getting your poo poo rocked it's not hard to throw up a block.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Third person is actually an enormous disadvantage for the most part, because the third person animations were understandably not designed to communicate the same information as the first person animations. When you can swing again, what your range is and where exactly you should be aiming to hit the head is much more difficult to parse. It varies widely between weapons but generally it's hard to do more than just sort of swing for center of mass.

It's still incredibly fun though.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Syrnn posted:



Children of the Horned Rat is one of the most brilliant supplements that I will never get a group chill enough to use. :negative:

It continues the trend of the Antagonist Books in WHFRP being both really great for making enemies for normal PCs, and surprisingly great at letting you play as the bad guys.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

Syrnn posted:



Children of the Horned Rat is one of the most brilliant supplements that I will never get a group chill enough to use. :negative:

Wait there is a Warhammer RPG that lets you play Skaven?

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

2nd ed wfrp, which includes rules for dysentery

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


SkySteak posted:

Wait there is a Warhammer RPG that lets you play Skaven?

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
I think I know just what that "shadowy transaction" was.

White Coke
May 29, 2015
Did anyone ever try to weaponize the Musk of Fear? Seems like something a Dwarf engineer might try, or Clan Skyre.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Mordja posted:

I think I know just what that "shadowy transaction" was.


holy poo poo

White Coke posted:

Did anyone ever try to weaponize the Musk of Fear? Seems like something a Dwarf engineer might try, or Clan Skyre.

Dwarfs could probably think of something, since I heard Skaven are meant to be direct counters to them.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.


The GM is really encouraged to get into the spirit of being the Horned Rat, which means letting the PCs destroy themselves while laughing. A lot.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Mordja posted:

I think I know just what that "shadowy transaction" was.


:five:

IBlameRoadSuess
Feb 20, 2012

Fucking technology...

At least I HAVE THIS!

Mordja posted:

I think I know just what that "shadowy transaction" was.


End this thread now. Make a new one with this in the OP.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
eater of cheese is a compliment, but the cheese shop in vermintide is NOT looted, i dont trust fatshark to write accurate lore anymore

also someone mod the sack rat to drop 100 cheese physics objects instead of anything useful, tia

Syrnn
Aug 16, 2004

Mordja posted:

I think I know just what that "shadowy transaction" was.


"Ugh, another blue. Into the forge with you!"

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
Backstabbery falchion and expanded magazine volley crossbow WH finally got me regularly playing classes that aren't bright wiz, and its really great. Having a guarantee that roger is gonna go down in 10 seconds or less, retaining a little anti-stormvermin capability if the game does that thing where it spawns five of them at once on top of your head, and clearing out 80% of a horde by whipping out volley bow and right clicking twice, fills so many gaps in the average Pubbie Rando lineup.


looking back on how much trouble i had getting a full clear of garden of moor earlier this month, there are so many times where in retrospect the problem was I felt locked into Bright Wiz slave-and-storm-and-special-killer-du-jour which is frequently the other component missing in pub lobbies. What I needed was volleybow and falchion beefing through patrols when pubs triggered them. What I needed was strength pot volley bow 7-shotting roger with skullcracker bolts. What I needed was a melee weapon that can take out a chain in half a dozen quick charged attacks.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Skullcracker is bugged on projectile weapons and does nothing

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

What you needed was a truly fabulous hat.

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.

Willie Tomg posted:

What I needed was strength pot volley bow 7-shotting roger with skullcracker bolts.

Digirat posted:

Skullcracker is bugged on projectile weapons and does nothing

The skullcracking was inside you the whole time!

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Digirat posted:

Skullcracker is bugged on projectile weapons and does nothing

ahahahahaha this game is so good. Okay so volleybow is just insanely excellent. I'll take it!

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Willie Tomg posted:

Backstabbery falchion and expanded magazine volley crossbow WH finally got me regularly playing classes that aren't bright wiz, and its really great. Having a guarantee that roger is gonna go down in 10 seconds or less, retaining a little anti-stormvermin capability if the game does that thing where it spawns five of them at once on top of your head, and clearing out 80% of a horde by whipping out volley bow and right clicking twice, fills so many gaps in the average Pubbie Rando lineup.


looking back on how much trouble i had getting a full clear of garden of moor earlier this month, there are so many times where in retrospect the problem was I felt locked into Bright Wiz slave-and-storm-and-special-killer-du-jour which is frequently the other component missing in pub lobbies. What I needed was volleybow and falchion beefing through patrols when pubs triggered them. What I needed was strength pot volley bow 7-shotting roger with skullcracker bolts. What I needed was a melee weapon that can take out a chain in half a dozen quick charged attacks.

Yeah my WH end game is also falchion+RC, thought about staying with the rapier to deal with hordes and the repeater for storms and rogers but the falchion will be better on NM+. My goal now is to create a set of bot only weapons all with BL+DB+imp pommel.

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
killing blow rapier has spoiled me on witch hunter weapons now. I can't play with anything else. used to really like the falchion too.

it's got 10% on its charged regrowth and hits multiple targets per swing, which is pretty sweet because you proc heals a hilarious amount, but its overall slowness and only 2 shields are kind of a drag when you can just run around zapping off heads instead with the rapier

terrorist ambulance fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 29, 2017

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Holy poo poo first time ever playing elf with a glaive+hagbane MOTHER OF GOD. Its basically a stronger pick with a retarded power attack and its hilariously wide arc helps a ton for sweeping peoples backs.

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Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

terrorist ambulance posted:

killing blow rapier has spoiled me on witch hunter weapons now. I can't play with anything else. used to really like the falchion too.

Kinda same except for his red axe which I lucked out on now. The thing's got bloodlust, charged swift slaying and backstabbery. :getin:

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