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I think goons are way too quick to replace "difference of opinion over a videogame" with "stupidity" but I do not tend to agree with walker at all. He raved about far cry 3, and by the time I was done with FC3, I absolutely hated it. I hope someone else writes RPS' review for andromeda.
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Good read, thanks
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Rookersh posted:Bioware doesn't exist anymore. Whether Bioware deserves it or not, I'm not sure, but I'm open to developers trying new things since the alternative is Ubisoft releasing a bunch of open world games where you climb towers to reveal a hundred icons on your map.
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I need this game to be good really badly
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as long as the mp is good i'm good
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da2 was probably a production disaster behind the scenes but it at least weirdly broke the story and gameplay formulae in inadvertently interesting ways in the process. me4 meanwhile seems to simultaneously double down on every convention and draw them out through open world mechanics. which could be very not good. but whatever i'd be lying if i said i wasn't going to play it.
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I think it would be pretty funny if it turns out to be great despite the bad animations, bad graphics, bad voiceacting and bad writing. Like if the gameplay is so amazing it overshadows all of that, that would be fantastic. It would/will also be funny when the game is garbage and everyone that has been shitposting about it since the first trailer is proven right. So it's a win/win for me, I either get a good game or a good laugh.
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Nazzadan posted:When was the last time Bioware even knocked the ball past the pitching mound? I never played Inquisition or even read about it, so I can't comment there, but I'd say the last good single player was ME2 in 2010. It really knocked it out the park for me back then, considering what else was available at the time. Also Tuchanka in ME3, and ME3 multiplayer. e- didn't realise so many left in 2010ish. I suppose it fits. Nazzadan posted:I think it would be pretty funny if it turns out to be great despite the bad animations, bad graphics, bad voiceacting and bad writing. Like if the gameplay is so amazing it overshadows all of that, that would be fantastic. Yea, that's just how I think about it too. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Poops Mcgoots posted:Whether Bioware deserves it or not, I'm not sure, but I'm open to developers trying new things since the alternative is Ubisoft releasing a bunch of open world games where you climb towers to reveal a hundred icons on your map. If this does turn out to be Mass Effect Inquisition - and there are a lot of signs it fuckin' close - then that's pretty much what this game will be. What's the difference between opening up a camp site/forward base in Inquisition and climbing a bell tower in FC4? What's the difference between collecting all the codex pages in Inquisition and collecting all of the animus thingamabobs in Assassin's Creed? E:Speaking of climbing towers - guess what the Remnant quests for this game involve? Funky See Funky Do fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Has anybody pointed out that a handful of streamers are streaming press copies right now? e: yep, beaten El Jeffe fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Nazzadan posted:When was the last time Bioware even knocked the ball past the pitching mound? DA I, The first half of Mass Effect 3
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i turned on one of the streams and it was a guy pulling enemies and then dropping them off cliffs goty
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Realtalk: I just want a pulpy scifi adventure with fun combat, plenty of loot, and a decent amount of exploration. I really don't care how intellectual the story is as long it's just fun to follow and think about amidst all the shooting and looting.
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Deakul posted:Realtalk: Yep. I enjoyed Mass Effect at it's worst. So this will likely be fine.
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:i turned on one of the streams and it was a guy pulling enemies and then dropping them off cliffs I just tuned in to watch a squadmate shoot at the ground the entire mission, and then the player failed the mission with no warning. It was pretty funny
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Milky Moor posted:sure can I see some aside from the one by the guy who liked me3's original ending
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Rookersh posted:Bioware doesn't exist anymore. A good, detailed, effortpost? In this thread? Source your quotes Seriously though, that was a good read, thanks for posting it. I dunno what this game will be, but I really like the mass effect series, even 3 (the ending is bad and some of the plot is bad but I like the game) so I'm cautiously optimistic my brain will convincingly tell me that I like this one, too, even if it, like mass effect 3, is not good, according to goons From what I've seen of this so far in videos and streams it looks satisfyingly within the mass effect aesthetic that I've come to love, and even the "this sucks" reviews say the combat's pretty fun so I'm keeping my preorder locked in
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I hadn't seen any of the facial animation people were talking about before watching one of these streams, but they really weren't exaggerating. This woman is holding a completely unchanging expression with everything she says, pretty much only moving her mouth. And this is primary story stuff, not an out of the way sidequest. I'd need to compare it with mass effect 2 and 3 to see if I'm remembering them with rose tinted glasses and this is actually totally normal for the series, but either way, it's a hell of a step down from the witcher 3. This is just a personal gripe, but I'm also not liking how they keep the camera centered behind you and controllable during normal conversations, unlike ME 1/2/3's close-up diagonal shots.
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Underdog humans are in a race to activate/deactivate ancient relics of an extinct advanced race. Humanity's best hope rests on the shoulders of one soldier who is bound to an AI. The loving Halo writer turned Mass Effect into Halo.
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Digirat posted:I'd need to compare it with mass effect 2 and 3 to see if I'm remembering them with rose tinted glasses and this is actually totally normal for the series ME2 and 3 were meme generators because of some of their odd expression animations Case in point:
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Peebee's gun is still backwards in the review copy footage so it wasn't some thing they rigged up to get past stage demo restrictions or whatever people were making up about it
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If "a character holds a gun backwards once" and "the faces look funny" turn out to be the biggest problems with this game then that will rule
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BrianWilly posted:Combat does seem cool from what these vids show, despite some...sigh...really poor playing. Everyone seems to think that the only way to deal with enemy shields is to just...shoot them with your gun, despite the fact that Liam (who's been in every squad so far) apparently has Overload. That one Video Game Sophistry guy who's doing in-depth videos looks to be playing a Sentinel, but I've yet to see him use a single power and, from what I can tell, he seems to have gone through the entire first mission without ever equipping a second power. According to the preview pages of the Prima Guide, Liam's Overload is not a starter ability, you have to actually put a point in it once you level up. He starts with Frag Grenade and an Omni-tool Lunge.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Holy poo poo. This review is scathing. This is pretty damning, but having just replayed the original trilogy, I'm kind of mystified at him saying he expects "splendid writing" from a Bioware game. All the stuff he's criticizing is thoroughly present in the first three games. I always thought the draw was that the writing was not that it was good so much as good enough to get players invested in the Choose Your Own Adventure mechanic. It was never "splendid," it just went from above-average to below as it got outstripped by other studios.
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:i turned on one of the streams and it was a guy pulling enemies and then dropping them off cliffs
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Fojar38 posted:ME2 and 3 were meme generators because of some of their odd expression animations Everyone remembers this one because it was horrifying, but also because it was an outlier. The issue I'm seeing with andromeda is that the faces are under-animated rather than over-animated, which is obviously much safer but also clearly inferior to the alternative
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Digirat posted:Everyone remembers this one because it was horrifying, but also because it was an outlier. It was one of the worst bits, but I definitely don't think it's an outlier. ME2 and 3 are FULL of melodramatic moments that are undermined by stiff animation, characters sliding around, long pauses between lines of dialogue*, etc. It's always been like this, it just hasn't improved at all and looks comparatively worse and worse the better the character models get. *including my favorite thing where a character stops in the middle of a word and waits a full second so another character can "interrupt" them
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Haledjian posted:This is pretty damning, but having just replayed the original trilogy, I'm kind of mystified at him saying he expects "splendid writing" from a Bioware game. All the stuff he's criticizing is thoroughly present in the first three games. My deal with DA and ME games is that they're the only game of that type there is. They've never told amazing stories or been incredibly well written, but yeah, they've been good enough. Just fun sci-fi/fantasy pulp. If other companies made these types of games I'm willing to bet they'd poo poo all over Bioware.
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marshmallow creep posted:Well while I was able to download files, I am still not able to install them. Origin keeps asking for permissions from administrator, and no amount of administrator privileges or running as Administrator or compatibility modes or reinstallation or cache clearing or .NET Framework updates seems enough to get me past this point. You might try reinstalling Origin itself. I remember having some weird issue with it a while back, and just using the installer over the top of the existing setup fixed it. 8-Bit Scholar posted:I am starting to worry this isn't going to be a good game should I get Star Ocean instead??? Can't wait to have my Avenger break after the first 10 minutes.
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Ainsley McTree posted:If "a character holds a gun backwards once" and "the faces look funny" turn out to be the biggest problems with this game then that will rule After watching a press-copy stream for a bit, there are gameplay issues. But they seem to be issues that playing multiplayer would alleviate.
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Nazzadan posted:But they seem to be issues that playing multiplayer would alleviate. Like not having to deal with the story in singleplayer?
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Funky See Funky Do posted:My deal with DA and ME games is that they're the only game of that type there is. They've never told amazing stories or been incredibly well written, but yeah, they've been good enough. Just fun sci-fi/fantasy pulp. If other companies made these types of games I'm willing to bet they'd poo poo all over Bioware. Spider makes some bioware style games.
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comatose posted:Like not having to deal with the story in singleplayer? No AI companions either.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:No AI companions either. I mainly meant this comatose posted:Like not having to deal with the story in singleplayer? but this is fine too
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OctaMurk posted:The Bill Kristol, actually Yeah, that's who I meant. ( )
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Digirat posted:This is just a personal gripe, but I'm also not liking how they keep the camera centered behind you and controllable during normal conversations, unlike ME 1/2/3's close-up diagonal shots. This is probably for the better, given the state of the facial animation, haha. (Also it was one of my favorite things they introduced in Inquisition--ME and DA are both so full of interminable RPG exposition dialogue that the ability to walk away from someone mid-sentence was really refreshing)
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Spider makes some bioware style games. Haha watching the streams, I was thinking of Mars: War Logs or Technomancer too. It looks.. okay but everything is just that little bit off. Kludgy UI, flat voice acting and animations, characters that don't grab you right away.
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Rookersh posted:Bioware doesn't exist anymore. Great post, this really explains all the dropped balls since 2010. In 2009 Bioware looked like it was poised to become an RPG dynasty with back to back original property megahits. Sad what happened to ME3 and DA2.
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AngryBooch posted:Underdog humans are in a race to activate/deactivate ancient relics of an extinct advanced race. Humanity's best hope rests on the shoulders of one soldier who is bound to an AI. gently caress that. Something, something, blue tittays shark tank joke.
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AngryBooch posted:Underdog humans are in a race to activate/deactivate ancient relics of an extinct advanced race. Humanity's best hope rests on the shoulders of one soldier who is bound to an AI.
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