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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn	95	18.63%
Dennis Skinner	53	10.39%
Angus Robertson	20	3.92%
Tim Farron	9	1.76%
Paul Ukips	7	1.37%
Robot Lenin	105	20.59%
Tony Blair	28	5.49%
Pissflaps	193	37.84%
Total:	510 votes

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UnlimitedSpessmans: Jul 31, 2015

Pochoclo posted:

My condolences to the families of the 4 victims and the wounded.

Unfortunately rear end in a top hat alt-right politicians are going to use this to destroy the lives of thousands. Looking forward to much more stringent immigration controls that will help prevent absolutely nothing.

it will actually literally just make the problem worse too.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:31

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# ? May 16, 2024 19:47

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Ban cars, IMO.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:31

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

Ban sticks, surely?

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:34

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

That's bad for people in the countryside, but banning cars from major cities is a good idea.

Provided of course that it was done alongside a major investment in public transport.

Which is why it will never be done.

We'll probably get extrajudicial drone strikes against cars what look funny or something.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:35

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

That's bad for people in the countryside,

Ban people in the countryside, they vote tory.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:36

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

Just ban people

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:35

Rakosi: May 5, 2008; D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
NO-QUARTERMASTER

From the river (of Palestinian blood) to the sea (of Palestinian tears)

oh no how terribly inconvenient this is for your partisan narratives

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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:38

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Breath Ray posted:

Those are desert boots

They're really obviously loafers.

Why am I arguing about this?

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:39

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

I too wish it was the IRA. Proper British terrorists them.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:40

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Rakosi posted:

oh no how terribly inconvenient this is for your partisan narratives

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:41

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Rakosi posted:

oh no how terribly inconvenient this is for your partisan narratives

gently caress off, racist.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:41

Breath Ray: Nov 19, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

They're really obviously loafers.

Why am I arguing about this?

This photo shows them better:

Private Speech posted:

Better photo of the suspect.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:47

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Breath Ray posted:

This photo shows them better:

Get The Look

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:53

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

I wouldn't storm a sandcastle in them let alone parliament.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:56

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Why am I arguing about this?

Shoechat is the new crispchat.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:57

Tortuga: Aug 27, 2011; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Breath Ray posted:

This photo shows them better:

I just googled Desert Boots apparently they are these, not boots that are fit for desert operations. I imagine a lot of ISIS guys make the same mistake.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:58

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Nah mate, these are dessert boots

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:02

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Gonzo McFee posted:

Nah mate, these are dessert boots

Now if someone did a terrorism in those I would admire their chutzpah, even if I didn't approve of their actions.

Bonus points for full drag.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:06

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
_{(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)}

Hello, dear

There will be cartoons with flags made from blood stains and tyre marks. It is bad that this has become so routine, now.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:06

TheHoodedClaw: Jul 26, 2008

Pochoclo posted:

Looking forward to much more stringent immigration controls that will help prevent absolutely nothing.

Various newsy twitterers are naming the perp as Abu Izzadeen, who was born as Trevor Brooks in Hackney, so maybe not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:07

Seaside Loafer: Feb 7, 2012; Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy.

I do get the Qaddafi plan when he couldn't fight back so he got up to monkey business but these lot don't even have a nation do they.

Maybe its a meta-plan to make us into a police state so we are so loving miserable we rise up and destroy it.

Its all beyond me.

loving religion man, gently caress all them and their followers.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:07

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

crispix posted:

There will be cartoons with flags made from blood stains and tyre marks. It is bad that this has become so routine, now.

Gonna have to do a lot of maneuvering to get a union jack out of it though.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:08

c0burn: Sep 2, 2003; The KKKing

Channel 4 news are saying it's Abu Izzadeen. Surely MI5 are in the poo poo if it is him?

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:09

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Seaside Loafer posted:

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy.

I do get the Qaddafi plan when he couldn't fight back so he got up to monkey business but these lot don't even have a nation do they.

Maybe its a meta-plan to make us into a police state so we are so loving miserable we rise up and destroy it.

Its all beyond me.

loving religion man, gently caress all them and their followers.

I think that if Daesh cared about Muslims they wouldn't be doing, well, everything they're doing.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:10

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Yo prison guys in this thread you're going to have literally all of the public support in the world if you demand rehabilitation of prisoners and strike tomorrow

Seaside Loafer posted:

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress.

It's great for recruitment. Be famous, have everything your current life can't offer you, also we're going to make your homeland a miserable xenophobic wretch

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:13

Jippa: Feb 13, 2009

c0burn posted:

Channel 4 news are saying it's Abu Izzadeen. Surely MI5 are in the poo poo if it is him?

Just comparing photos they do look similar but what the gently caress do I know.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:14

UnlimitedSpessmans: Jul 31, 2015

Seaside Loafer posted:

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy.

I do get the Qaddafi plan when he couldn't fight back so he got up to monkey business but these lot don't even have a nation do they.

Maybe its a meta-plan to make us into a police state so we are so loving miserable we rise up and destroy it.

Its all beyond me.

loving religion man, gently caress all them and their followers.

all the police state poo poo will just radicalise more people and give them more soldiers, that's why most of the attacks target civilians

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:14

Tortuga: Aug 27, 2011; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Various newsy twitterers are naming the perp as Abu Izzadeen, who was born as Trevor Brooks in Hackney, so maybe not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen

He doesn't look like the same guy, but it would probably be much worse if it was him rather than some random. Him having been known for so long and still allowed to be free would prove that obviously we have been far too lenient on suspicious persons.

c0burn posted:

Channel 4 news are saying it's Abu Izzadeen. Surely MI5 are in the poo poo if it is him?

If they now get the right to detain any youtube mujahideen/whoever then surely it's a win.

Tortuga fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 22, 2017

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:14

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

UnlimitedSpessmans posted:

that's why most of the attacks target civilians

This is a key point. I don't get their mag so I'm not sure if it's deliberate, but killing civilians is a terrible tactic if you actually want to negotiate, a suicidal tactic if you want to reform, and a fantastic PR campaign for a death cult.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:16

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Seaside Loafer posted:

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy.

They want to make things poo poo for Muslims in the West, to drive a wedge, increase recruitment, and bring about their desired war of Islam against all others.

The higher ups that is, no idea what the people on the ground are thinking.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:17

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Guavanaut posted:

The higher ups that is, no idea what the people on the ground are thinking.

Eating up the daesh propaganda wholesale.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:19

Paul.Power: Feb 7, 2009; The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Nah mate, these are dessert boots

Here are some more dessert boots.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:18

Tigey: Apr 6, 2015

Seaside Loafer posted:

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy.

I do get the Qaddafi plan when he couldn't fight back so he got up to monkey business but these lot don't even have a nation do they.

Maybe its a meta-plan to make us into a police state so we are so loving miserable we rise up and destroy it.

Its all beyond me.

loving religion man, gently caress all them and their followers.

No, thats exactly what the groups who carry these kind of attacks want. They want their attacks to be as brutal and bloody as possible in order to create division. They know the more brutal they are, the more the media, public and government will overreact and create a racist backlash. They WANT ordinary muslims to be victimised and blamed by the non-muslim majority, as they will thus be alienated, thus making radical islamist movements a more attractive prospect for some.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:20

c0burn: Sep 2, 2003; The KKKing

Tortuga posted:

He doesn't look like the same guy, but it would probably be much worse if it was him rather than some random. Him having been known for so long and still allowed to be free would prove that obviously we have been far too lenient on suspicious persons.

If they now get the right to detain any youtube mujahideen/whoever then surely it's a win.

https://twitter.com/RymMomtaz/status/844628115074809856

The plot thickens.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:22

Jippa: Feb 13, 2009

So is the guy still alive? Sounds like he took around 3-4 shots.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:24

big scary monsters: Sep 2, 2011; -~Ｓｋｕｌｌｗａｖｅ~-

It's OK to feel sad about this attack, because it is indeed sad when people are needlessly killed. Please try and keep some sense of proportion however, by recalling that around 1500 people die every day in the UK, including on average 3 a day who die after being found fit to work by the DWP and losing their benefits. The best way to deal with terrorist attacks is to ignore them completely and not give them days of blanket media attention, which only validates such tactics and increases the likelihood of subsequent attacks.

And I understand the irony of me taking this position after our discussion earlier today about how nobody trusts actuaries.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:25

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Seaside Loafer posted:

Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy.

I do get the Qaddafi plan when he couldn't fight back so he got up to monkey business but these lot don't even have a nation do they.

Maybe its a meta-plan to make us into a police state so we are so loving miserable we rise up and destroy it.

Its all beyond me.

loving religion man, gently caress all them and their followers.

They *want* retribution against Muslims and Muslim-majority countries. They want a holy war between Islam and the West and provoking the West into that war is a lot easier than provoking Muslims.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:26

Rakosi: May 5, 2008; D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
NO-QUARTERMASTER

From the river (of Palestinian blood) to the sea (of Palestinian tears)

goddamnedtwisto posted:

and provoking the West into that war is a lot easier than provoking Muslims.

I'm not sure this was initially true.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:30

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big scary monsters posted:

It's OK to feel sad about this attack, because it is indeed sad when people are needlessly killed. Please try and keep some sense of proportion however, by recalling that around 1500 people die every day in the UK, including on average 3 a day who die after being found fit to work by the DWP and losing their benefits. The best way to deal with terrorist attacks is to ignore them completely and not give them days of blanket media attention, which only validates such tactics and increases the likelihood of subsequent attacks.

And I understand the irony of me taking this position after our discussion earlier today about how nobody trusts actuaries.

The way forward is to acknowledge it as a problem and find ways to deal with it.
Sensationalism is to the current political climate what gasoline is to fire.

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TheHoodedClaw: Jul 26, 2008

c0burn posted:

https://twitter.com/RymMomtaz/status/844628115074809856

The plot thickens.

Channel 4 News just lost a lot of money in a libel case if this is true.

# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:31

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