Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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Jeremy Corbyn | 95 | 18.63% | |
Dennis Skinner | 53 | 10.39% | |
Angus Robertson | 20 | 3.92% | |
Tim Farron | 9 | 1.76% | |
Paul Ukips | 7 | 1.37% | |
Robot Lenin | 105 | 20.59% | |
Tony Blair | 28 | 5.49% | |
Pissflaps | 193 | 37.84% | |
Total: | 510 votes |
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Pochoclo posted:My condolences to the families of the 4 victims and the wounded. it will actually literally just make the problem worse too.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:31 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 03:02 |
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Ban cars, IMO.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:31 |
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Ban sticks, surely?
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:34 |
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That's bad for people in the countryside, but banning cars from major cities is a good idea. Provided of course that it was done alongside a major investment in public transport. Which is why it will never be done. We'll probably get extrajudicial drone strikes against cars what look funny or something.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:35 |
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Guavanaut posted:That's bad for people in the countryside, Ban people in the countryside, they vote tory.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:36 |
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Just ban people
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:35 |
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oh no how terribly inconvenient this is for your partisan narratives (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:38 |
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Breath Ray posted:Those are desert boots They're really obviously loafers. Why am I arguing about this?
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:39 |
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I too wish it was the IRA. Proper British terrorists them.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:40 |
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Rakosi posted:oh no how terribly inconvenient this is for your partisan narratives
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:41 |
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Rakosi posted:oh no how terribly inconvenient this is for your partisan narratives gently caress off, racist.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:41 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:They're really obviously loafers. This photo shows them better: Private Speech posted:Better photo of the suspect.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:47 |
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Breath Ray posted:This photo shows them better: Get The Look
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:53 |
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I wouldn't storm a sandcastle in them let alone parliament.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:56 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Why am I arguing about this?
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:57 |
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Breath Ray posted:This photo shows them better: I just googled Desert Boots apparently they are these, not boots that are fit for desert operations. I imagine a lot of ISIS guys make the same mistake.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:58 |
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Nah mate, these are dessert boots
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:02 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:Nah mate, these are dessert boots Bonus points for full drag.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:06 |
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There will be cartoons with flags made from blood stains and tyre marks. It is bad that this has become so routine, now.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:06 |
Pochoclo posted:Looking forward to much more stringent immigration controls that will help prevent absolutely nothing. Various newsy twitterers are naming the perp as Abu Izzadeen, who was born as Trevor Brooks in Hackney, so maybe not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:07 |
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Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy. I do get the Qaddafi plan when he couldn't fight back so he got up to monkey business but these lot don't even have a nation do they. Maybe its a meta-plan to make us into a police state so we are so loving miserable we rise up and destroy it. Its all beyond me. loving religion man, gently caress all them and their followers.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:07 |
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crispix posted:There will be cartoons with flags made from blood stains and tyre marks. It is bad that this has become so routine, now. Gonna have to do a lot of maneuvering to get a union jack out of it though.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:08 |
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Channel 4 news are saying it's Abu Izzadeen. Surely MI5 are in the poo poo if it is him?
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:09 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy. I think that if Daesh cared about Muslims they wouldn't be doing, well, everything they're doing.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:10 |
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Yo prison guys in this thread you're going to have literally all of the public support in the world if you demand rehabilitation of prisoners and strike tomorrowSeaside Loafer posted:Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. It's great for recruitment. Be famous, have everything your current life can't offer you, also we're going to make your homeland a miserable xenophobic wretch
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:13 |
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c0burn posted:Channel 4 news are saying it's Abu Izzadeen. Surely MI5 are in the poo poo if it is him? Just comparing photos they do look similar but what the gently caress do I know.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:14 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy. all the police state poo poo will just radicalise more people and give them more soldiers, that's why most of the attacks target civilians
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:14 |
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TheHoodedClaw posted:Various newsy twitterers are naming the perp as Abu Izzadeen, who was born as Trevor Brooks in Hackney, so maybe not. He doesn't look like the same guy, but it would probably be much worse if it was him rather than some random. Him having been known for so long and still allowed to be free would prove that obviously we have been far too lenient on suspicious persons. c0burn posted:Channel 4 news are saying it's Abu Izzadeen. Surely MI5 are in the poo poo if it is him? If they now get the right to detain any youtube mujahideen/whoever then surely it's a win. Tortuga fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 22, 2017 |
# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:14 |
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:that's why most of the attacks target civilians This is a key point. I don't get their mag so I'm not sure if it's deliberate, but killing civilians is a terrible tactic if you actually want to negotiate, a suicidal tactic if you want to reform, and a fantastic PR campaign for a death cult.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:16 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy. The higher ups that is, no idea what the people on the ground are thinking.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:17 |
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Guavanaut posted:The higher ups that is, no idea what the people on the ground are thinking. Eating up the daesh propaganda wholesale.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:19 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:Nah mate, these are dessert boots
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:18 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy. No, thats exactly what the groups who carry these kind of attacks want. They want their attacks to be as brutal and bloody as possible in order to create division. They know the more brutal they are, the more the media, public and government will overreact and create a racist backlash. They WANT ordinary muslims to be victimised and blamed by the non-muslim majority, as they will thus be alienated, thus making radical islamist movements a more attractive prospect for some.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:20 |
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Tortuga posted:He doesn't look like the same guy, but it would probably be much worse if it was him rather than some random. Him having been known for so long and still allowed to be free would prove that obviously we have been far too lenient on suspicious persons. https://twitter.com/RymMomtaz/status/844628115074809856 The plot thickens.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:22 |
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So is the guy still alive? Sounds like he took around 3-4 shots.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:24 |
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It's OK to feel sad about this attack, because it is indeed sad when people are needlessly killed. Please try and keep some sense of proportion however, by recalling that around 1500 people die every day in the UK, including on average 3 a day who die after being found fit to work by the DWP and losing their benefits. The best way to deal with terrorist attacks is to ignore them completely and not give them days of blanket media attention, which only validates such tactics and increases the likelihood of subsequent attacks. And I understand the irony of me taking this position after our discussion earlier today about how nobody trusts actuaries.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:25 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:Do the groups actually understand that this poo poo will make things worse for everyone including their brothers in the target nation or are they so blinded by the religion that they just don't give a gently caress. I refuse to believe that some of top level guys arent at a level of intelligence that they haven't actually thought for a moment 'you know what, all this 2nd coming, new york burning, 99 virgins in heaven whatever it is blah blah' stuff, might be a bit iffy. They *want* retribution against Muslims and Muslim-majority countries. They want a holy war between Islam and the West and provoking the West into that war is a lot easier than provoking Muslims.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:26 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:and provoking the West into that war is a lot easier than provoking Muslims. I'm not sure this was initially true.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:30 |
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big scary monsters posted:It's OK to feel sad about this attack, because it is indeed sad when people are needlessly killed. Please try and keep some sense of proportion however, by recalling that around 1500 people die every day in the UK, including on average 3 a day who die after being found fit to work by the DWP and losing their benefits. The best way to deal with terrorist attacks is to ignore them completely and not give them days of blanket media attention, which only validates such tactics and increases the likelihood of subsequent attacks. The way forward is to acknowledge it as a problem and find ways to deal with it. Sensationalism is to the current political climate what gasoline is to fire.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:32 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 03:02 |
c0burn posted:https://twitter.com/RymMomtaz/status/844628115074809856 Channel 4 News just lost a lot of money in a libel case if this is true.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 20:31 |