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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Osborne putting the boot into May on ITV and looking like he loved every moment of it.

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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Bloody Pom posted:

Apologies for my dumb comments about the Greens. That's what happens when you try and talk UK politics after being an expat for over a decade. :downs:

I mean if you think NZ Greens are crazy, you probably wouldn't like UK Greens either. It's just that they are good, and you're wrong.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


qhat posted:

Should've just let scotland leave

Agreed.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Skinty McEdger posted:

Osborne putting the boot into May on ITV and looking like he loved every moment of it.

Door is hitting her on his way out

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Coohoolin posted:

I want to love everyone but I can't and i hate it. gently caress this poo poo island that I somehow love so much and won't ever leave, you fuckers are making my life a living Sophies choice.

For real go pretend to be welsh or cornish or something they seem pretty cool.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Coohoolin posted:

I want to love everyone but I can't and i hate it. gently caress this poo poo island that I somehow love so much and won't ever leave, you fuckers are making my life a living Sophies choice.

I want you to know that the way snp fucks with labour makes me hate them as much as you hate... well everyone not the snp I guess. Maybe agitating for a second referendum so soon after the first was a bit of a poo poo move.

Lol, we're going to get a literal coalition of chaos if the conservatives squeak in.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Extreme0 posted:

Hey Pissflaps got his wish. He wanted the SNP out even if the Tories got them.

hopefully, left wing Scots will realise there is no appetite for independence and give their votes to Labour and allow Jezza the majority he deserves instead of letting the Tories sneak in.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I mean if you think NZ Greens are crazy, you probably wouldn't like UK Greens either. It's just that they are good, and you're wrong.


they have suspect views on nuclear power

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Have the welsh been toilet trained yet?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

TACD posted:

Sometimes there's just too much

beauty

in the world

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
What happens when the Tories rely on Unionists for government, and the EU tells them to go gently caress themselves when it comes to a soft Northern Ireland border

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Though I have to say "gently caress this lovely island why can't I quit you" is probably the most UKMT sentiment I've heard in a long time so well done there.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Solemn Sloth posted:

What happens when the Tories rely on Unionists for government, and the EU tells them to go gently caress themselves when it comes to a soft Northern Ireland border

General Election

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Baron Corbyn posted:

they have suspect views on nuclear power

UK Goons have suspect views on Nuclear power. The Greens are good.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
:siren: I was totally wrong about the electability of Jeremy Corbyn and you were all right :siren:

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Solemn Sloth posted:

What happens when the Tories rely on Unionists for government, and the EU tells them to go gently caress themselves when it comes to a soft Northern Ireland border

Another election soon. Brexit negotiations just aren't gonna work with a minority government.

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

Baron Corbyn posted:

hopefully, left wing Scots will realise there is no appetite for independence and give their votes to Labour and allow Jezza the majority he deserves instead of letting the Tories sneak in.



they have suspect views on nuclear power

The have suspect views on lots of other things e.g. 50 mph national speed limits.

Its what happens when you have a fully democratic party that is made up of extreme members they end up with some bat poo poo insane policies.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

smug n stuff posted:

Nah tory+dup is definitely enough

Nah, the Beeb is outright saying that it ain't gonna happen, apparently. Nobody hits the finishing line.

Mister Adequate posted:

I'll admit it's probably the most tempting look at Westminster they've ever had, but SF's principles run pretty deep.

As to the second point; They can't, that's one of the MANY things about tonight that's so funny.

To be extra clear: as much as such a position would look tempting to most, your average Sinn Fein partisan hates the Tories. The modern Tories are the people who claim the mantle of those who caused Ireland centuries of suffering and agony, depopulated her and left her to starve and tried to force a religion on them. Even moreso than Labour, the Conservatives represent Conquering England to Sinn Fein.

These partisans would, given the choice and means, rather stand before the Tories, take out a sharp implement, and carve out big chunks of their own necks rather than ever cooperate with the despoilers of Ireland.

And on top of this, they'll never be in coalition with the DUP. The DUP are the successors to the side the IRA was fighting against locally during the troubles.

It's just Tories + DUP. Sinn Fein won't show up to party.

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

I strongly suggest that anyone who wants to figure out how politics might go after this should go find out as much as you can about Jim Callaghan's Labour government and how politics worked during it.

Let's talk about pairing, for instance. Usually when one side has a clear majority, MPs from opposing sides with similar interests or occupations are "paired" together. Most votes are attended by far fewer than all 650-odd MPs; when an MP on one side has some unavoidable business that prevents them from being present to vote in divisions (insert cynical speculation here about the nature of said business), they have a "pair" on the other side who agrees to also not vote, in order that votes can still happen and not be dependent on who can physically get the most MPs to the House (and yes, there are often good reasons for an MP to have something better to do than voting on 100 individual amendments to the Fisheries (Amendment) Bill).

Now imagine that you have a tiny or non-existent government majority. The temptation to bend, gently caress with, manipulate, and break the pairing system now becomes incredibly strong; a critical vote won by subterfuge is still a critical vote won. There are stories (which after a night of no sleep I can't find again) of whips going so far as to take critically ill MPs out of hospital and wheeling them unconscious on a gurney through the lobby, and then having a vicious argument at the other end as to whether the MP was actually still alive when he went through the lobby.

There is every chance that this could get absolutely vicious as gently caress if the government manages to sort an agreement that gives them an all-attending majority of, say, 5 or less.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Solemn Sloth posted:

What happens when the Tories rely on Unionists for government, and the EU tells them to go gently caress themselves when it comes to a soft Northern Ireland border

The coalition dies.

Assume this is the answer to any what-if you can think of

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem
https://twitter.com/FFP/status/873043081435598849

Who know North East Fife was such a battleground. Maybe that email Ming Campbell sent out changed the game.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

qhat posted:

Have the welsh been toilet trained yet?

Have you been to Wales? The whole place is a toilet

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm enjoying that today is a glorious sunny blue sky morning here in north yorkshire.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

OwlFancier posted:

I find it much easier if you try not to draw any lines between people but what they believe, it doesn't pattern super well to nations or countries or even wealth.

Like the good ones hate the poo poo ones. Be happy that we've got a good voice out there at the moment.

I'm just coming to terms that I might never see Scottish independence and it's killing me. I know the yadda yadda but I loving believed, goddamm, and I still do. John McLean is turning in his grave and I can loving feel it.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Trogdos! posted:

Now that I've woken up here's my congratulatory post to you britgoons



you're still brexiting tho :smith:

That's good, the EU's dead anyway, independent UK under Jeremy Corbyn > EU.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

coffeetable posted:

:siren: I was totally wrong about the electability of Jeremy Corbyn and you were all right :siren:
— every political commentator

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

coffeetable posted:

:siren: I was totally wrong about the electability of Jeremy Corbyn and you were all right :siren:

:same:

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
3000 posts since i went to bed, has something happened??

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Sinteres posted:

It's kind of interesting how much everyone seems to hate Tony Blair given that he's the only Labour leader to win an election since the 1970's. Obviously the Iraq War was plenty bad, so I get it, but he's still the only winner in four decades.

This is a remarkably shallow observation

smug n stuff
Jul 21, 2016

A Hobbit's Adventure
Tories officially can't get a majority, even without Sinn Fein! hooray!

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Coohoolin posted:

I'm just coming to terms that I might never see Scottish independence and it's killing me. I know the yadda yadda but I loving believed, goddamm, and I still do. John McLean is turning in his grave and I can loving feel it.

Spend a few years in Pais Vasco you can get in on their thing. Or Catalonia.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
"It's definitely going to be either Liberal Democrat or Conservative here! Labour always come third here - even in the 1997 election when Labour won nationally with a massive landslide. They have only 2 councillors in the constituency, the Lib Dems have 12. Only the Lib Dems can beat the Conservatives here in Portsmouth South"

Oh really? We loving did it lads, we loving did it.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Baron Corbyn posted:

hopefully, left wing Scots will realise there is no appetite for independence and give their votes to Labour and allow Jezza the majority he deserves instead of letting the Tories sneak in.

Relying on Scottish Labour will gently caress that up for you.

Hopefully Dugdale and her backstabbers are Targets again.

Baron Corbyn posted:

they have suspect views on nuclear power

Like most Green parties. Shocker.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

fridge corn posted:

3000 posts since i went to bed, has something happened??
nah some local bollocks

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Coohoolin posted:

I'm just coming to terms that I might never see Scottish independence and it's killing me. I know the yadda yadda but I loving believed, goddamm, and I still do. John McLean is turning in his grave and I can loving feel it.

you're swiss

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Coohoolin posted:

I'm just coming to terms that I might never see Scottish independence and it's killing me. I know the yadda yadda but I loving believed, goddamm, and I still do. John McLean is turning in his grave and I can loving feel it.

There's better things to believe in, I think, than a tiny rainy possibly socialist island.

Believe in a slightly larger rainy possibly socialist island.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Jose posted:

you're swiss

Let's not go there. That's what poo poo up the scotpol thread to god knows where.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
Why has nobody posted the gif of Corbyn high-fiving Thornberry's boob?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Wait, what the gently caress happened. I wake up and everyone told me May got hung.

Is Jezza in with a chance?

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

All I know about Scotland is Grant Morrison, Highlanders and fried Mars bars. Where do I go to learn about the wonders of this glorious half-island that should be free?

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Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

OwlFancier posted:

Though I have to say "gently caress this lovely island why can't I quit you" is probably the most UKMT sentiment I've heard in a long time so well done there.

I own a handmade Irish bouzouki and there's not many other places where I can actually play the drat thing.

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