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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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It's a bit upsetting to see Gideon enjoying himself quite this much
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"could" "the Telegraph" "2015" "opening paragraph that contains reference to Karl Marx" if it's not in the manifesto i'm not fussed
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Jun 9, 2017 18:28
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qhat posted:Well poo poo, I presumed the mail was Murdoch's The Sun for middle class pricks. That's The Times 
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Jun 9, 2017 18:29
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Still don't see any references to Trump supporting the revitalisation of the coal industry in Britain. If anything that would just further complicate his plans to do the same in the US.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:30
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So, what's all this 'shadow' business? Is it, like, an opposition leadership thing?
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Jun 9, 2017 18:33
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So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close?
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Jun 9, 2017 18:34
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Flip Yr Wig posted:So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close? Literally the same thing, afaik.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:34
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Night10194 posted:So, what's all this 'shadow' business? Is it, like, an opposition leadership thing? The shadow cabinet are the opposition team intended to, well, shadow the ruling cabinet. The Shadow Chancellor is also the coolest political position in the world.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:35
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Flip Yr Wig posted:So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close? No. You've pretty much got it.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:35
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Night10194 posted:So, what's all this 'shadow' business? Is it, like, an opposition leadership thing? The opposition in this country are referred to as the 'shadow' government. They're mandated to wear all black in public and must conceal their faces when Parliament is in session. They're tasked with undermining their 'light' counterpart by any means necessary. Here's the outfit: 
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Jun 9, 2017 18:36
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Mr. Flunchy posted:The opposition in this country are referred to as the 'shadow' government. They're mandated to wear all black in public and must conceal their faces when Parliament is in session. This is also true. Their leader is Lord Buckethead.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:36
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OwlFancier posted:The shadow cabinet are the opposition team intended to, well, shadow the ruling cabinet. The Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, I'll have you know. What is the Exchequer? Nobody knows. Whatever dark magic this word contains its true nature has been shrouded in mystery. Legend says it is a spell that guards against evil spirits.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:39
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The UDP -AND- Tories. We're so.. so.. soo hosed.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:40
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Diet Crack posted:The UDP -AND- Tories. We're so.. so.. soo hosed. Surely it can't last five years. Surely not. Then again, God does hate us.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:40
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OwlFancier posted:Literally the same thing, afaik. Also they're religious fanatics on, like, a "terrible white people from Alabama" level. Hate the poo poo out of gays, want to ban abortions, think climate change is fake, full of Young Earth Creationists, the whole thing. poo poo, thanks to the connection to the UDA they even have the loving gun nuts!
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Jun 9, 2017 18:41
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Flip Yr Wig posted:So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close? One rather important difference between UDA and IRA though: The preferred modus operandi of the UDA was individual killings of civilian targets in nationalist areas
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Jun 9, 2017 18:41
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Tory MP saying the electorate have 'got it wrong'. https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/873220352335392768 Also a nice quote from Lord Sugar: Lord Sugar posted:Jeremy Corbyn did a very good job wooing the young and educated people. I would add that those people who voted for him are quite bright and educated, but also not very experienced in life. Brexit? How dare you imply people didn't know what they voted for! Labour on the other hand...
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Jun 9, 2017 18:42
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What's the odds on May crying off Question Time when it's back on?
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Jun 9, 2017 18:43
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Angepain posted:The Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, I'll have you know. I also enjoy that the First Lord of the Treasury isn't in charge of the treasury. The Second Lord of the Treasury is. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 18:43
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Is there any chance at all that Brexit doesn't go through? Like, what would it take, a war starting right now?
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Jun 9, 2017 18:43
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Night10194 posted:So, what's all this 'shadow' business? Is it, like, an opposition leadership thing? Basically, it's who the Opposition (the big party that didn't make it) would put into the various ministries if the current governing party fell apart or lost the next election. It's a general idea of who Labour would want running the country were they in charge. It sure sound sinister to folks outside the UK tho Flip Yr Wig posted:So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close? Bang on. DUP would deny it's that close, but they're the biggest Unionist party now, a bunch of the little ones merged into them and they've got former UDA stone killers as members. farraday posted:How much turnover was there in the anti-Corbyn elements of the PLP? It's one thing to show your plan for the party will yield results, but other than craven political opportunism, is he going to be spending the time until the next election pushing them uphill or did he expand his support base? Jezza has given them drat near the biggest vote gain in 70 years. He's out-performed Blair. People are falling in line, right now.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:44
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Go gently caress yourself with a car aerial, Alan Sugar.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:45
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Gaunter O'Dimm for Shadow Chancellor : At least my evil loving works, right? 
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Jun 9, 2017 18:46
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Diet Crack posted:The UDP -AND- Tories. We're so.. so.. soo hosed. Not at all. The majority is too slim and there's too much natural friction (like day one Brexit is a massive obstacle for the coalition) sp they're never going to get anything done besides sour public support for both parties. Corbyn gets to be the cool uncle while our out-of-touch parents fight.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:47
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Alan sugar, a businessman who as far as I can tell currently owns none of the businesses he founded, which is good because like 5 of them went of buisness because they were bad.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:48
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/873235037239599106
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Jun 9, 2017 18:49
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TheRat posted:One rather important difference between UDA and IRA though: Yup. You know those stories of Actual Catholic Schoolgirls being Actually Murdered in the Actual Streets? These guys. May's coalition partners. jabby posted:Tory MP saying the electorate have 'got it wrong'. Straight up fascist bullshit. I guess Trump and the Rs ain't alone. orange sky posted:Is there any chance at all that Brexit doesn't go through? Like, what would it take, a war starting right now? Brexit is still on, and frankly it'd be a little difficult for Corbyn himself to completely slam on the brakes. It'll take a full government collapse and Labour campaigning on a direct "stop Article 50" platform to stop Brexit at this point. meanwhile https://twitter.com/FioraAeterna/status/873038890692521984
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Jun 9, 2017 18:49
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farraday posted:How much turnover was there in the anti-Corbyn elements of the PLP? It's one thing to show your plan for the party will yield results, but other than craven political opportunism, is he going to be spending the time until the next election pushing them uphill or did he expand his support base? Well because there wasn't a Tory rout, Labour only lost 5 sitting MPs, none of whom were significant figures, but there were also a few New Labour types who chose to stand down. As a result, Labour have a good number of new MPs, who were selected and ran on a Corbyn ticket. The remaining anti-Corbyn elements have had to admit they were wrong about his electability and are already making public statements of contrition. e: accidentally used 2015 numbers
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Jun 9, 2017 18:50
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jabby posted:Tory MP saying the electorate have 'got it wrong'. the old classic: Bertolt Brecht posted:Die Lösung
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Jun 9, 2017 18:50
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I mean I don't think I can completely criticise a tory for complaining about the electorate being idiots on principle because I do the same thing. He's just wrong.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:51
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sassassin posted:Not at all. The majority is too slim and there's too much natural friction (like day one Brexit is a massive obstacle for the coalition) sp they're never going to get anything done besides sour public support for both parties. But you see, I'd rather them actually work for us and sort Brexit out, rather than jumping at each other's necks to see who can get the best slander in before calling it a day and doing gently caress all.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:51
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Drone_Fragger posted:Alan sugar, a businessman who as far as I can tell currently owns none of the businesses he founded, which is good because like 5 of them went of buisness because they were bad. The savvy finger-on-the-pulse marketer of the email phone.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:51
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Hmm, anyone got good recommendations for history books about the British Left in the 20th century? I Would Like To Know More.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:51
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When were the election results questions tonight, did I miss it?
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Jun 9, 2017 18:52
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/09/tabloids-crush-corbyn-power-politics-sun-mail-labourquote:The Sun and Mail tried to crush Corbyn. But their power over politics is broken 
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Jun 9, 2017 18:52
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sassassin posted:Corbyn gets to be the cool uncle while our out-of-touch parents fight. this is what I want in my politics yesss that's the stuff
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Jun 9, 2017 18:53
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Flip Yr Wig posted:So are the DUP to the UDA as Sinn Fein are to the IRA? Or is the connection not as close? No. The UDP was the political wing of the UDA and was replaced with the UPRG which has been controversial for receiving government funding for its community activities The DUP dicked around with the Third Force, which where largely farmers with no guns who wanted to wear fatigues, and the Ulster Resistance which tried to be an umbrella group for Loyalism but the parry broke ties with it after the government busted a scheme they where involved in to sell stolen missle plans to the south African government for arms
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Jun 9, 2017 18:55
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SpaceDrake posted:
After starting twenty points behind in the polls. Corbyn is basically the Labour messiah at this point.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:55
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Mr. Flunchy posted:So the Conservatives' unjustly earned aura of competence and (lol) stability has got to be pretty much gone now. In two years we've seen Cameron gently caress up the referendum and resign, May putting everyone through an unnecessary general election that she completely fumbled, Europe openly laughing at us just before Brexit negotiations start and the incoming tsunami of shite that this minority coalition government is going to cause. never campaign about why the opposition shouldn't be voted for. look what just happened here and in america
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Jun 9, 2017 18:56
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Diet Crack posted:But you see, I'd rather them actually work for us and sort Brexit out, rather than jumping at each other's necks to see who can get the best slander in before calling it a day and doing gently caress all. I don't want the Tories to "sort Brexit out". The gently caress is a red white and blue brexit?
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