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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Pochoclo posted:

They could have their own little racist corner of the country.

I'd vote for that. We could deport them all to the Isle of Wight. And then fire trident at it.

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staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

EmptyVessel posted:

One of my favourite examples of Discordian wind-up was Robert Anton Wilson sending a Pope card to Ian Paisley Snr.

the is stong in this one

communism bitch posted:

I'd vote for that. We could deport them all to the Isle of Wight. And then fire trident at it.

Nah, even that place has some qualities, I suggest sending them as a diplomatic team to North Korea, nuking entirely optional.

staberind fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jun 10, 2017

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



Guavanaut posted:

Would join an anarchist group with No gods, no masters, no nandos on the banners.

I vaguely recall that. It's perfect :yayclod:

Don't they both want to ban that?

I thought Scottish kids studied the Clearances a lot more than English kids studied the Enclosures. Or is that just Highland kids?

It may well just be Highland kids. I know forkboy went to school not too far from me so it is a local thing for us.
When I was at uni, we were studying The Cheviot, The Stag and the Black, Black Oil (which if you haven't read or seen is totally amazing and you should), and there was only one other student (from Plockton) who knew what the clearances were and only one more (from Dumfries-way) who had heard of them.

I hate that I have to ask this, but...what's the Enclosures?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Talking about Northern Ireland, I just found out about the Clontibret Invasion & wow. If you can't be arsed reading the Wikipedia article on it, in 1986 a couple hundred Unionists (including ex-DUP leader Peter Robinson) crossed the border into Ireland in the huff over the Anglo-Irish Agreement, smashed cars, splashed anti-Agreement graffiti everywhere (including on the wall of a church. A protestant church!), and attacked 2 Garda.

Kind of small compared to some of the horrible poo poo that happened but the fact Robinson was involved & got arrested makes it stand out.

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/09/from-climate-denial-to-abortion-heres-six-dup-policies-you-should-know-about

If you voted Tory you are now going to be:

- Anti gay marriage
- Anti climate change
- Anti abortion

Pretty sickening stuff.

I didn't vote for that poo poo, but here we go.......

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Re: May wanting to ban crypto.

quote:

This, then, is what Theresa May is proposing:

* All Britons' communications must be easy for criminals, voyeurs and foreign spies to intercept

* Any firms within reach of the UK government must be banned from producing secure software

* All major code repositories, such as Github and Sourceforge, must be blocked

* Search engines must not answer queries about web-pages that carry secure software

* Virtually all academic security work in the UK must cease -- security research must only take place in proprietary research environments where there is no onus to publish one's findings, such as industry R&D and the security services

* All packets in and out of the country, and within the country, must be subject to Chinese-style deep-packet inspection and any packets that appear to originate from secure software must be dropped

* Existing walled gardens (like Ios and games consoles) must be ordered to ban their users from installing secure software

* Anyone visiting the country from abroad must have their smartphones held at the border until they leave

* Proprietary operating system vendors (Microsoft and Apple) must be ordered to redesign their operating systems as walled gardens that only allow users to run software from an app store, which will not sell or give secure software to Britons

* Free/open source operating systems -- that power the energy, banking, ecommerce, and infrastructure sectors -- must be banned outright

Theresa May will say that she doesn't want to do any of this. She'll say that she can implement weaker versions of it -- say, only blocking some "notorious" sites that carry secure software. But anything less than the programme above will have no material effect on the ability of criminals to carry on perfectly secret conversations that "we cannot read". If any commodity PC or jailbroken phone can run any of the world's most popular communications applications, then "bad guys" will just use them. Jailbreaking an OS isn't hard. Downloading an app isn't hard. Stopping people from running code they want to run is -- and what's more, it puts the whole nation -- individuals and industry -- in terrible jeopardy.
:newlol:

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

communism bitch posted:

I'd vote for that. We could deport them all to the Isle of Wight. And then fire trident at it.

corbyn is against killing other countries' civilians, the right is against not firing trident, we meet halfway in the radical centre and just murder our own civilians, simple

e: and I did hear of the clearances in primary school, in Edinburgh no less, although all I remember is having to read a really boring book about this family leaving Scotland and being on a ship for ages and then they went to Australia and nothing happened at all there was no plot ever to speak of

Angepain fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jun 10, 2017

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
2016 - a year in which many people who were well known for various reasons died
2017 - a year in which many much what is this actually what. wat.
edit : Jam Uncle for qwizats hadderach.

staberind fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jun 10, 2017

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator


DOWLOAD YOUR DISTROS NOW! SAVE YOURSELF!

spud posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/09/from-climate-denial-to-abortion-heres-six-dup-policies-you-should-know-about

If you voted Tory you are now going to be:

- Anti gay marriage
- Anti climate change
- Anti abortion

Pretty sickening stuff.

I didn't vote for that poo poo, but here we go.......

I'm no Tory fan, but they're not going to embrace DUP-style social conservatism on the mainland. They know that would be true electoral suicide.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

CottonWolf posted:

They know that would be true electoral suicide.

I think it's clear the Tories capacity for recognising electoral suicide is on the wonk atm

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Guavanaut posted:

Wales is a strong contender for the first place to fly the red flag during a workers' uprising. That's my Cympol (Cymgwl?) input.

Vengeance for Capel Celyn!

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

CottonWolf posted:

They know that would be true electoral suicide.

They haven't really shown an aversion to that, though. In fact, they've been pretty enthusiastic about it.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Touche.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
if the DUP demand too much, and if I were a Tory in a suddenly-narrow marginal - and god knows there are plenty of such now - I would be seriously considering whether:

- a May government is likely to last long enough to render the opprobrium worth it, and

- whether a May government can actually afford to punish naughty Tories in any way

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



May wearing orange, very prescient.



What a wank attitude, it's not that they ran a poo poo campaign, no it's just young people are stupid and want free stuff.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
So the numbers have been crunched, the entries for the election book were as follows:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

CON: 331
LAB: 229
LD: 9
Other: 81
Charity: PDSA
Score: 72

nothin to seehere posted:

CON: 341
LAB: 225
LD: 5
Other: 79
Charity: UNHCR
Score: 88

maugrim posted:

CON: 321
LAB: 245
LD: 8
Other: 76
Charity: Down's Syndrome Association
Score: 42

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

CON: 332
LAB: 240
LD: 10
Other: 68
Charity: Age UK
Score: 48

Ephemeron posted:

CON: 380
LAB: 202
LD: 3
Other: 65
Charity: áDepression U.K.
Score: 138

sebzilla posted:

CON: 311
LAB: 274
LD: 4
Other: 61
Charity: Samaritans
Score: 30

nopantsjack posted:

CON: 410
LAB: 183
LD: 7
Other: 50
Charity: Homeless Link
Score: 184

BobbyThompson posted:

CON: 352
LAB: 256
LD: 6
Other: 36
Charity: http://manncat.com/
Score: 68

Zephro posted:

CON: 346
LAB: 224
LD: 5
Other: 75
Charity: Your local food bank
Score: 90

winegums posted:

CON: 276
LAB: 289
LD: 6
Other: 79
Charity: UNICEF
Score: 96

Overminty posted:

CON: 361
LAB: 216
LD: 3
Other: 70
Charity: Shelter
Score: 110

Oberleutnant posted:

CON: 88
LAB: 420
LD: 0
Other: 83
Charity: Don't Hate
Score: 591

As Acting Returning Officer for the UKMT I therefore declare Sebzilla to be the winner of the UKMT 2017 election book.

All entrants should donate £5 (plus however much extra you feel is appropriate) to The Samaritans and frankly anybody who chuckled at Ober's prediction should probably also donate, possibly £69 or some other amusing number, to them too.

Interestingly (excluding Ober's predictions) the mean for the entries was:

CON: 320.75
LAB: 250.25
LD: 5.5
Other: 68.58333333

making us collectively considerably closer to the final result than most of the pollsters.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

Pochoclo posted:

They haven't really shown an aversion to that, though. In fact, they've been pretty enthusiastic about it.

Much like the possession of a hammer changes the overton window nailward, being a Tory makes everything you think and do absolutely correct inverse to how wrong it is.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

goddamnedtwisto posted:

making us collectively considerably closer to the final result than most of the pollsters.

The wisdom of goons.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
Turns out the trick to beating the pollsters was pulling random numbers out your arse

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

forkboy84 posted:

For Norn Iron goons, something I've always wanted to know. Why exactly are the nationalists parties much more strongly associated with left wing politics & the unionists all right wing? Surely there's loads of working class unionists who would vote for a party that looked after their rights while also being for remaining in the UK? And with Fianna Fail & Fine Gael you've obviously got nearby examples of right wing Irish nationalist parties. So how has it ended up as it has?
PUP erasure itt

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
There's a list of DUP demands on twitter somewhere (saw it on the BBC live feed and am phone posting) and they are all about money rather than gay rights or abortion etc, seem reasonable until you get to the final few which are all 'SINN FEIN AND THE REPUBLICANS MUST SUFFER' :stare:

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

goddamnedtwisto posted:

All entrants should donate £5 (plus however much extra you feel is appropriate) to The Samaritans and frankly anybody who chuckled at Ober's prediction should probably also donate, possibly £69 or some other amusing number, to them too.

I do like how Ober's prediction of 69 seats for the SNP meant them gaining at least 9 seats outside of Scotland

hey, it could happen

spud
Aug 27, 2003

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

goddamnedtwisto posted:

So the numbers have been crunched, the entries for the election book were as follows:












As Acting Returning Officer for the UKMT I therefore declare Sebzilla to be the winner of the UKMT 2017 election book.

All entrants should donate £5 (plus however much extra you feel is appropriate) to The Samaritans and frankly anybody who chuckled at Ober's prediction should probably also donate, possibly £69 or some other amusing number, to them too.

Interestingly (excluding Ober's predictions) the mean for the entries was:

CON: 320.75
LAB: 250.25
LD: 5.5
Other: 68.58333333

making us collectively considerably closer to the final result than most of the pollsters.

I'll donate £100 to the samaritans if Ober deletes his account.

EDIT: With screenshot etc

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Is Chris Leslie a blairite oval office? The guardian seems intent on giving him an article where he's making GBS threads on corbyn saying that " oh yah well he didn't actually win the election, anyone could've beat May, you have to be credible bork bork bork."

In fact there's a kind of motif and under current to the guardian with the "still didn't win Nyah Nyah" angle.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Bacon Terrorist posted:

There's a list of DUP demands on twitter somewhere (saw it on the BBC live feed and am phone posting) and they are all about money rather than gay rights or abortion etc, seem reasonable until you get to the final few which are all 'SINN FEIN AND THE REPUBLICANS MUST SUFFER' :stare:

the entire country will suffer under standard tory operating procedure anyway, so technically this demand shouldn't be too hard for them to pull off

spud posted:

I'll donate £100 to the samaritans if Ober deletes his account.

EDIT: With screenshot etc

why but he did! you'll see there is no longer a single poster named Oberleutnant.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

spud posted:

I'll donate £100 to the samaritans if Ober deletes his account.

Post proof of you doing it and I'm sure he will.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

spud posted:

I'll donate £100 to the samaritans if Ober deletes his account.

EDIT: With screenshot etc

How about I donate a poo poo into your mouth, you racist oval office?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

spud posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/09/from-climate-denial-to-abortion-heres-six-dup-policies-you-should-know-about

If you voted Tory you are now going to be:

- Anti gay marriage
- Anti climate change
- Anti abortion

Pretty sickening stuff.

I didn't vote for that poo poo, but here we go.......

I'm so sorry that your Tories are turning into our Republicans

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
With no sense of irony Daily telegraph are doubling the gently caress down



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/09/theresa-mays-clique-blamed-disastrous-result-senior-tories/amp/
"A Cabinet source said that the Prime Minister must clear out the "cabal at the top" which allowed "a terrorist sympathiser to get within an inch of Downing Street"

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

communism bitch posted:

How about I donate a poo poo into your mouth, you racist oval office?

We'll have a whip round.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

Al-Saqr posted:

Is Chris Leslie a blairite oval office? The guardian seems intent on giving him an article where he's making GBS threads on corbyn saying that " oh yah well he didn't actually win the election, anyone could've beat May, you have to be credible bork bork bork."

He supported Yvette "Blairite's Choice" Cooper during the leadership election and was part of the resignation wave designed to make Corbyn resign.

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

goddamnedtwisto posted:

So the numbers have been crunched, the entries for the election book were as follows:

Done.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe

quote:

All major code repositories, such as Github and Sourceforge, must be blocked

Yeah, let's exclude the UK from participating in international software development. That'll secure the economy for decades!

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

We'll have a whip round.

Crowdfund me a large Dominos Texas BBQ, 20 Sterling, and a thermos of coffee, and I'll get to work.

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

Al-Saqr posted:

Is Chris Leslie a blairite oval office?

He was briefly the shadow Chancellor under Harriet, he seems to be salty about being sacked. (I vaguely remember he refused to leave the shadow chancellor's office for a few weeks).

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Joda posted:

Yeah, let's exclude the UK from participating in international software development. That'll secure the economy for decades!

I think you'll find that the internet is just a series of tubes

awesome-express
Dec 30, 2008

Joda posted:

Yeah, let's exclude the UK from participating in international software development. That'll secure the economy for decades!

lol the moment they do that I, as a tech person, will gtfo.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

'he didn't win! he's unelectable!!', i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corb cob

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

learnincurve posted:


"A Cabinet source said that the Prime Minister must clear out the "cabal at the top" which allowed "a terrorist sympathiser to get within an inch of Downing Street"
But the coalition with the DUP is going ahead nonetheless?

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pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

awesome-express posted:

lol the moment they do that I, as a tech person, will gtfo.
The point is not that that's what they're doing, but that it's what they'd have to do to have any meaningful impact on terrorists' ability to communicate secretly. So either they do that or what they pass a bill which hurts civil liberties in some far lesser way but is nevertheless useless dogshit. Since they have a razor-thin majority, it's going to be the latter.

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