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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Apparently Hammond managed to crash a car, again.
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That won't include the figures from today will it? I was told it would take 7-10 days to process my membership.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:36
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I'm going float that the DUP probably settled on a deal for an increase in the block grant to cover the regional financial impact of Brexit (probably only between the £200-300mil range), either a scrapping of the bedroom tax or an increase in hardship allowance for NI to allow the offset scheme currently in place to extend beyond its current 2020 deadline, a maintenance of the winter fuel allowance, keeping the pension triple lock, commitment to maintain the freeze in domestic rates in NI and the non-implementation of domestic water charges in the event of direct rule, and some robust language on prioritising a frictionless border as a key Brexit negotiation priority
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Jun 10, 2017 20:37
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Private Speech posted:Dunno I quit the party over it, probably for ever, but then I'm not an actual citizen But you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette I guess??? Wait wasn't that said by a royalist leader about massacring revolutionaries. Makes you think
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Jun 10, 2017 20:37
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Jose posted:well i was going on the near million number being accurate but still no There's a significant chance of Labour membership being the highest ever in a few days/weeks, which is kind of batshit insane/amazing.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:37
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Angepain posted:Well, technically, the Tories + the DUP don't have a majority of votes but do have a majority of seats, so there is that. In a more proportional system Jez would be PM right now.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:38
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Private Speech posted:But you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette I guess??? Wait wasn't that said by a royalist leader about massacring revolutionaries. Makes you think Are you having a stroke?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:38
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nothing to seehere posted:I still think 3-line whipping for Brexit was a mistake: He should have just whipped as normal, as the public don't really understand the distinction. But it's behind us now and the Labour party is united. Nah, it was crucial for Corbyn to be seen as pro Brexit. Otherwise we'd end up like the Lib Dems.
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TheRat posted:Are you having a stroke? I loving hate lexiters that's all
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learnincurve posted:I simply can't comprehend why she isn't simply quitting and quietly retiring, you have to be utterly delusional not to see that it won't just be the DUP holding her hostage it's going to be every single Tory backbencher, a group traditionally ignored and cowed by the whips, making demands as well. Because from here all she's got to look forward to is the after-dinner lecture circuit and/or 'political consultant'. She'll never hold any real power again.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:40
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Are we going to be celebrating June 9th regularly as The Day of The Absolute Boy, or are we hanging on for May's imminent resignation as the greater event?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:41
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At least once May buddies up with the DUP she'll be able to update her boring as gently caress story about the naughtiest thing she ever did.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:43
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Gonzo McFee posted:Nah, it was crucial for Corbyn to be seen as pro Brexit. Otherwise we'd end up like the Lib Dems. Thats my point: I don't think the general public knew enough of the difference between "Corbyn whips for Brexit" and "Corbyn 3-line whips for brexit" for it to matter
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Jun 10, 2017 20:43
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Samovar posted:Apparently Hammond managed to crash a car, again. Youd think theyd have learnt to not drive unproven supercars because of their tendency to spontaneously combust.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Youd think theyd have learnt to not drive unproven supercars because of their tendency to spontaneously combust.  
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Jun 10, 2017 20:45
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Guardian: Was it the Corbyn memes wot won it? Here are some of the best https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/855414042273488897
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Jun 10, 2017 20:46
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jabby posted:She's hosed. A lot of her manifesto 'promises' are controversial enough that they'll never make it through the commons, and anything that isn't in the manifesto can be blocked by the Lords. New American here: Can someone explain this one to me? I'm not entirely sure what the Queen's Speech is, and the House of Lords just confuses me on general principle.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:47
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When's the next PMQs? Will Corbyn's swagger be enough to bring out some humility in May?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:47
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Jose posted:i've said it before but for a charity that really needs people taking part and doesn't cost money get yourself on the bone marrow donor registry Please do this if you can - also donate blood. It's one of the few occasions where you can genuinely swoop in like some sort of caped super-hero, and save someone's life. There are age limits though - the Anthony Nolan Trust prefers under 30s, and the British Bone Marrow registry prefers under 40s. If you are also of minority ethnicity - in UK terms - they really, really need you. I'm not allowed though. I received several units of someone else's blood, which obviously I'm hugely grateful for, but the risk one of the donors had eaten a dodgy burger at some point is too high. Considering that up until the accident I was a regular blood donor myself...
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nothing to seehere posted:Thats my point: I don't think the general public knew enough of the difference between "Corbyn whips for Brexit" and "Corbyn 3-line whips for brexit" for it to matter They would if he hadn't.
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Thanks Ants posted:Are we going to be celebrating June 9th regularly as The Day of The Absolute Boy, or are we hanging on for May's imminent resignation as the greater event? June 9th marks the start of the Festival of The Absolute Boy, which runs until (insert day May gets the boot).
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oath2order posted:New American here: Can someone explain this one to me? I'm not entirely sure what the Queen's Speech is, and the House of Lords just confuses me on general principle. Queen's speech is an outline of government policy for the upcoming year, so kind of like the state of the union, I suppose? House of Lords is the upper chamber that can veto any parliamentary bill with the exception of financial bills.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:49
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/GerardWoodhous1/status/873576833538822144 He wrote a book on winning marginals, and then proceeded to lose his marginal, so he's about the right level of competence to work on this shitshow.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:49
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Second place in the seats sweepstake, drat. Grats sebzilla, I donated double because I'm not on the breadline and typing £5 into the "how much?" box felt really stingy. communism bitch posted:I'm gonna do the Samaritans donation once their website starts accepting my god drat card. It could be years till the next GE and I sometimes lapse from reading this thread (usually when Pissflaps happens), so I'm probably not your guy to run book on that.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:49
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Thanks Ants posted:Are we going to be celebrating June 9th regularly as The Day of The Absolute Boy, or are we hanging on for May's imminent resignation as the greater event? Every day is going to be The Day of the Absolute Boy from now until the end of time.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:50
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oath2order posted:New American here: Can someone explain this one to me? I'm not entirely sure what the Queen's Speech is, and the House of Lords just confuses me on general principle. When Parliament opens the Queen delivers a speech written by the government outlining their plan for the coming year in terms of policy and bills, a basic programme of government. After parliament is open the speech is debated for a couple of days and at the end a largely symbolic vote is taken. If the vote fails its considered that the government lacks the confidence of the house, it does not have the support to proceed with its programme of government and the pm is bound by convention to resign or to go to the queen and recommend she appoint a new prime minister to attempt to form a government
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Jun 10, 2017 20:53
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I can't wait to see the awkward courting of young voters in the next Tory election campaign
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Jun 10, 2017 20:54
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communism bitch posted:Queen's speech is an outline of government policy for the upcoming year, so kind of like the state of the union, I suppose? House of Lords is the upper chamber that can veto any parliamentary bill with the exception of financial bills. To expand on the Queen's speech, there's a vote on it afterwards. If the government loses this vote, they aren't the government any more and chaos reigns.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:54
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Pochoclo posted:What happens if we get a bunch of by-elections and they go Con -> Lab causing the Tories to lose their DUP-aided majority? Minority government and coalition disbanded because there's no reason to do it? Probably too much to expect that they'll lose an MP to auto-erotic asphyxiation again this time round, but you never know.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:54
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Just joined the Labour party, I know you have to be a labour member to join momentum but is there a period of time you've had to have been a member?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:55
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Andrast posted:I can't wait to see the awkward courting of young voters in the next Tory election campaign Tories have historically not struggled to attract youngsters.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:55
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Stalingrad posted:Just joined the Labour party, I know you have to be a labour member to join momentum but is there a period of time you've had to have been a member? No you can get right on in I believe
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Jun 10, 2017 20:56
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Aren't benefits already devolved in NI?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:56
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communism bitch posted:Queen's speech is an outline of government policy for the upcoming year, so kind of like the state of the union, I suppose? House of Lords is the upper chamber that can veto any parliamentary bill with the exception of financial bills. kustomkarkommando posted:When Parliament opens the Queen delivers a speech written by the government outlining their plan for the coming year in terms of policy and bills, a basic programme of government. Ok, this is basically what I thought. I guess I just didn't understand how the Queen's Speech and the manifesto not being followed or being weak strengthened the house of lords.
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Jun 10, 2017 20:56
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Anyone else expecting hilarity on July 12th?
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Jun 10, 2017 20:57
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c0burn posted:Aren't benefits already devolved in NI? Yeah but our government is probably going to collapse at the end of the month so control of welfare will go back to London and the DUP will probably want the existing special allowances they negotiated a while back to offset some cuts to be maintained (which was no sure thing) Or if it doesn't collapse (somehow) they'll probably want any new cuts to not come into play at all
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Jun 10, 2017 21:00
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Thanks Ants posted:Tories have historically not struggled to attract youngsters. You either live long enough to become William Hague or get bullied into suicide.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:01
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Andrast posted:I can't wait to see the awkward courting of young voters in the next Tory election campaign Teresa May is the *squints at hand* Certain Female, innit bruv. #noveltypop4may
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Jun 10, 2017 21:01
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oath2order posted:Ok, this is basically what I thought. I guess I just didn't understand how the Queen's Speech and the manifesto not being followed or being weak strengthened the house of lords. There's another point, which is that by strict convention the Lords will not block anything that was in a party's manifesto. That's considered to have been already approved by the British people and so if it passes the commons it will pass the Lords. The problem the Tories have is a shaky majority meaning they will struggle to get anything controversial past the commons even if it was in their manifesto. They also don't have a majority in the Lords. So anything they manage to get through the commons that wasn't in their manifesto can be amended or blocked at that stage. And their manifesto didn't have a lot of promises in it, so their ability to get legislation passed is hampered in both Houses.
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