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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/9686308320 If you like that, you may enjoy this: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873674408224862210
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:07 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 05:58 |
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that's a pretty big jump also, the Sunday Times wants to put the knife in, but its fingers keep slipping https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/873645604030820352 Populist hard Brexiteer? Or pro-business soft Brexit? Questions, questions...
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:10 |
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Joda posted:Yet the membership of the supposed leftist party rejected Bernie. For all the bitching from Corbynistas about the insidious Blairite conspiracy to topple Corbyn, the Democratic Party showed what a party with a nomination process controlled by entrenched party elites actually looks like.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:14 |
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Yeah, but that's controlled by awful Liberals. That's why you need to purge them. E: oh nvm. Thought you were saying Corby shouldn't purge, because he'll become what he hates. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jun 11, 2017 |
# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:17 |
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I'm trying and failing to even guess at May's thought processes in staying on. She knows she got a shellacking that, while severe only in party terms compared to Cameron loving the entire country over like it's a dead pig, is otherwise pretty drat close to unprecedented in modern British political history. No other fucker's ever hoisted themselves that badly when there was no need to whatsoever. She had to know the knives would be out, hell they were already starting on election night (cf. Anna Soubry), and that she'd be an unbelievably crippled premier in every regard whilst the once-friendly media savages her for loving up and is trying to get Boris in. I suppose it's just difficult for me to wrap my head around that degree of self-assuredness and arrogance. I can understand the regular Tory amount of it but having enough to be on course for destroying the entire party is another matter.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:19 |
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I'm almost certain she's being kept there. This whole thing is to foster an image of an unruly party she will defeat and take back her place as are Iron Lady mkii.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:22 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I'm almost certain she's being kept there. This whole thing is to foster an image of an unruly party she will defeat and take back her place as are Iron Lady mkii. If they were remotely capable of forward planning this poo poo show wouldn't even have happened. It suggests a basic level of political competence.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:25 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I'm almost certain she's being kept there. This whole thing is to foster an image of an unruly party she will defeat and take back her place as are Iron Lady mkii. Or maybe she's just dumb and arrogant?
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:26 |
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No one could possibly want to continue on in her position though surely? And who would want to take over at the moment? Puppet PM makes more sense.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:29 |
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Remember the current crop of cunts are the bottom of the barrel. The ghouls, the freaks, the rejects. May herself, the pick of the runty litter, is a perpetually outraged gargoyle who falls apart under the harsh light of day, none of these moist-palmed fuckwits have their poo poo even remotely together.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:29 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:No one could possibly want to continue on in her position though surely? And who would want to take over at the moment? Puppet PM makes more sense. It's just like Abbott pre spill.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:32 |
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I think I'm also in the camp of "people are counting their chickens with a re-run of the election". Corbyn turned it around massively and the Tories absolutely clown car fell apart. Both of these things happened to a much greater degree than appeared likely at the start of the campaign. But it is about perception. Look at how things can change so quickly, sometimes I think it's about nothing but perception. Corbyn is now established as the real (and quite powerful) opposition leader and his manifesto is popular and good. Labour are back in business and will be for a while. But they ran out of runway for momentum and aren't campaigning any more. If the Tories don't have another improbably poor period of basic politics then they will quite quickly re-establish the same old tropes. From a "reversion to the mean" perspective, I'm not convinced enough yet that Labour have managed to move the mean far enough that they won't see a partial swing back to the Tories.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:34 |
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TomViolence posted:Remember the current crop of cunts are the bottom of the barrel. The ghouls, the freaks, the rejects. May herself, the pick of the runty litter, is a perpetually outraged gargoyle who falls apart under the harsh light of day, none of these moist-palmed fuckwits have their poo poo even remotely together. Yyyyyep. While Labour spent much of its post-blair time devoid of talent, so did the conservatives after Cameron. It's almost like building the entire party on one charismatic person is a bad idea!
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:34 |
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Who wants Brexit on their plate? It isn't any more comfortable for the Tories than it is for Labour.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:36 |
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Am I right in thinking the tories won't be able to continue to negotiate with terrorists today, it being the sabbath? If so, what does this mean for our news day I wonder.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:49 |
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TomViolence posted:Am I right in thinking the tories won't be able to continue to negotiate with terrorists today, it being the sabbath? You are indeed correct. I think the news will be dominated by polls.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:50 |
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ronya posted:that's a pretty big jump
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:56 |
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OwlFancier posted:Yyyyyep. While Labour spent much of its post-blair time devoid of talent, so did the conservatives after Cameron. It's almost like building the entire party on one charismatic person is a bad idea! are you implying cameron had charisma
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 06:58 |
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R. Guyovich posted:are you implying cameron had charisma I mean, he kind of did. Pigfucker was a lot of very bad things, but he did know how to work a crowd.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:00 |
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Whatever else, Cameron was teflon-coated to the point where he was able to soak up a necrobestiality scandal and keep on trucking long enough to gently caress us all like he hosed that pig. That takes something, maybe not charisma, but something.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:00 |
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R. Guyovich posted:are you implying cameron had charisma He had something which apparently passed for it. I don't really think Blair had any either but people keep saying he did so perhaps I've simply become utterly jaded to that concept of charisma having grown up with it being how politicians act 24/7.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:06 |
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cameron was very good at making it look like he knew what he was doing. to a tory pm, that's ask you really need to keep on keeping on thus, of course, the brexit fiasco would've wrecked his brand and made him much more vulnerable I do enjoy how apocalyptic the referendum fallout is being, though
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:14 |
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Blair in his prime was a magnificent speaker and better at making good slogans than anyone since loving lenin
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:16 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:19 |
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spectralent posted:They can't, though. Weak coalitions are now incredibly fragile because of the fixed term parliament act. Whuh? They're actually a tiny bit more robust in theory at least, but in practice you still only need 50%+1 to drop a vote of confidence. Josef bugman posted:So, and this is pure hypothetical, can the Conservatives just not propose any legislation over the next 5 years? Vote on Account, Finance Bill, Queen's Speech, and the one at the end of a Parliament session I can never remember the name of are all obligatory and all trigger at least resignation of a Government and probably an election if defeated.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:22 |
Finance bill only triggers a vote of no confidence, which with the new rules still gives the Gov two weeks to win a confidence vote. Queens speech is automatic though.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:26 |
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Hoops posted:I think I'm also in the camp of "people are counting their chickens with a re-run of the election". Corbyn turned it around massively and the Tories absolutely clown car fell apart. Both of these things happened to a much greater degree than appeared likely at the start of the campaign. the tories are going to be car crash for a while especially as long as May is there because of the DUP suddenly becoming knowledge amongst people and then they've got a leadership election
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:29 |
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brexit is going to be a massive humiliation and, if nothing else, is going to cause massive disruption within the party. my guess would be that it's going to trigger the next election in some way, by leak or agreement, because the Tories stop being a coherent party
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:32 |
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in a twist of fate, brexit turns the Tories into what labour was for a while - Corbyn elected PM with a majority of 150, 60% of the vote share
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:35 |
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V. Illych L. posted:in a twist of fate, brexit turns the Tories into what labour was for a while - Corbyn elected PM with a majority of 150, 60% of the vote share And Corbyn gets what he really wanted, a Labour government freed of the constraints of the worse parts of the EU. Truly the darkest of timelines, if you're an investment banker.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:38 |
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https://twitter.com/dannydyerbot/status/873791241804275713
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:38 |
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V. Illych L. posted:in a twist of fate, brexit turns the Tories into what labour was for a while - Corbyn elected PM with a majority of 150, 60% of the vote share "Hmm," say the Tories, "we've got to do what Labour did but in the other direction. What we really need now is an awkward backbencher with controversial views and a general reputation of being a walking caricature of what the party was in the 1970s." May, 2024: Jacob Rees-Mogg elected Prime Minister on a majority of 208
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:42 |
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https://twitter.com/dannydyerbot/status/873761039413895169
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:42 |
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ahahaha it just gets better and better"The Good Hitchens posted:The laughable failure of Mrs Theresa May’s empty, tremulous campaign was in fact predictable. I suspected it would happen. But I mostly kept quiet about it here for the past few weeks.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:46 |
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TomViolence posted:ahahaha it just gets better and better I don't know who this guy is but his whole shtick of wanting a "true conservative," minus the whole UDA thing, isn't that kinda what the DUP is? If we all just make the assumption this is being argued in good faith.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:50 |
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apart from his weird preoccupation with cannabis, I actually quite enjoy reading Peter Hitchens' blog he's a weird old fossil, but sort of charmingly dedicated and consistent -and, in his paternalistic way, actually rather humane
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:52 |
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TomViolence posted:ahahaha it just gets better and better You realise that he's calling for Oswald Mosely 2: This Time With Better Facial Hair to take over the Tories, right?
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:52 |
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would definitely have tea with Peter Hitchens if given the opportunity
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:53 |
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Mister Adequate posted:I'm trying and failing to even guess at May's thought processes in staying on. She knows she got a shellacking that, while severe only in party terms compared to Cameron loving the entire country over like it's a dead pig, is otherwise pretty drat close to unprecedented in modern British political history. No other fucker's ever hoisted themselves that badly when there was no need to whatsoever. She had to know the knives would be out, hell they were already starting on election night (cf. Anna Soubry), and that she'd be an unbelievably crippled premier in every regard whilst the once-friendly media savages her for loving up and is trying to get Boris in. Reminder that she had to call this election because her majority was under threat after it came out they broke the rules to win the last one in about 30 odd seats. She was also right to avoid the cameras because she's as personable as a razorwire tampon. Ultimately this is another Cameron failure. He threw everything at the 2015 election, made promises for a dangerous EU referendum that he lost and also cheated and got caught.
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:53 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You realise that he's calling for Oswald Mosely 2: This Time With Better Facial Hair to take over the Tories, right? Nah he wants one of the toffs from the pre-thatcher tory party to come back and take over. he likes davis best out of the current cabinet, I think
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# ? Jun 11, 2017 07:55 |