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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Thanks Ants posted:

Wooden battens wouldn't have been used because they would require a small amount of carpentry skill on site. Every modern building system is designed in a way that allows the manufacturer to emphasise the "low skill" nature of installation.

Sure, but when you're on site and poo poo doesn't fit, its quickest and easiest to use bits of batten and whatnot to bodge it so it looks alright and no one really minds because no new expensive and time sapping re-engineering is required and no one notices anyway.

Except of course all the clever safety/fire/whatever considerations designed into the product have been completely voided.

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spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

>complains about Guardian bias
>uses the Daily Mail as a source in a video

He's losing his edge

Your posting has improved dramatically and I thank you but the 4chan indent thing doesn't work here.

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

winegums posted:

Made it 1 minute in.

I much prefer it when Carl gets debated and isn't allowed to just go on his lovely diatribes. There was a recording of a debate between him, two of his pals and some academic, and she floored the 3 of them despite it being an awful unmoderated gangpile.

Sargon has always been poo poo at debating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_y7ZZmYVPA

When you get bodied by loving Destiny you should just lie low

Sargon's whole deal is he is very very good at researching and collating information to use in his videos. Instead in this video he just used a Daily Mail article because it supported the anti-Corbyn narrative Sargon likes to spin while unashamedly shilling for the Conservatives.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Obliterati posted:

This seems like a great time to mention that this guy, who we had to throw out our Hearts of Iron group for being a Nazi oval office, refused to play anyone but Nazi Germany

gently caress off you Nazi oval office

Oh hey I just got the update for that, get me in! I can be your new Nazi oval office!

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

The Insect Court posted:

Is there any reason to think that Corbyn, who has decisively embraced hard Brexit complete with an end to free movement, is going to pull a 180? I'm trying to recall any public statements made that could make someone believe that.

Or is it just wishful thinking?

He wouldn't. As a former Remain leaning person, I'm now leaning Brexit (or Lexit) with regards to a possible Corbyn Government. The neo-liberal establishment of the EU doesn't treat actual left-wing governments well at all, and half of the stuff Corbyn would like to do would go against their wishes.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010


Wow.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Kokoro Wish posted:

He wouldn't. As a former Remain leaning person, I'm now leaning Brexit (or Lexit) with regards to a possible Corbyn Government. The neo-liberal establishment of the EU doesn't treat actual left-wing governments well at all, and half of the stuff Corbyn would like to do would go against their wishes.

Yeah, about the only saving grace of it would be the chance to do full communism, but the stars would need to be pretty loving aligned for that.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Fans posted:

Oh hey I just got the update for that, get me in! I can be your new Nazi oval office!

Oh God, please no more fukken Wehraboos

MapGoons thread is here, and we're starting a Kaiserreich MP game on Sunday with a thread over here. All UKMT posters welcome, we even have a politics channel you can poo poo up

e: for those of you unaware, Kaiserreich is a alt-history scenario where the UK is syndicalist, the Jam Man paradise is real

Entropy238
Oct 21, 2010

Fallen Rib
Sooner or later the EU's going to have to wake the gently caress up about unfettered neoliberalism.

It's a shame because so much of what they do outside of economic policy is really good – consumer protections, telecoms, fundamental rights, data protection (kind of), competition etc ...

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

CUDDLING SOMEONE! PSWAH NO ONE NEEDS THAT!

Sargon is turning into a bitter extremist, the more the Tories and Brexit looks poo poo, the more he will turn into this generations Alf Garnett.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Sargon's whole deal is he is very very good at researching and collating information
Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there because Sargon doesn't do this. As someone in scientific research, I can tell you with certainty that Sargon absolutely 100% does not do proper research at all. At most, he reads the abstract and/or opening paragraph of a paper and he twists whatever it says to fit whatever narrative he wants, he cherrypicks to an insane degree and often deliberately skips paragraphs, sentences or even the end of the literal sentence he is reading. I've seen him do this over and over again and it's something incredibly prevalent in lovely scientific papers written by asshats who don't know what they're doing but manage to sound like it enough that they get away with it.

So, no, he is not "very good at researching", he's good at bullshitting.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Entropy238 posted:

consumer protections, telecoms, fundamental rights, data protection (kind of), competition etc ...

I'm so glad we have a strong and stable brexit team that strongly cares about these issuesoh god we're hosed

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:


Sargon's whole deal is he is very very good at researching and collating information to use in his videos.


Lol this is the exact opposite of reality. he's incredibly poo poo at reading anything, not even the FIRST loving PAGE of many of the studies he cites that contradicts what he's saying.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Angepain posted:

I'm so glad we have a strong and stable brexit team that strongly cares about these issuesoh god we're hosed

Don't worry man.
I'm sure the rest of us in the EU will fire in supply relief packages once in a while and watch you all fight for them in 4K TV.
Just start teaching your kids bite points on a body that will get arteries.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Since we're in bizarro-land tonight:

Jeremy Hunt: "hero nurses need a pay rise and I'll be personally asking the Chancellor to make it happen"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40293318http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40293318

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Prince John posted:

Since we're in bizarro-land tonight:

Jeremy Hunt: "hero nurses need a pay rise and I'll be personally asking the Chancellor to make it happen"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40293318http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40293318

lol what the gently caress

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Serene Dragon posted:

Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there because Sargon doesn't do this. As someone in scientific research, I can tell you with certainty that Sargon absolutely 100% does not do proper research at all. At most, he reads the abstract and/or opening paragraph of a paper and he twists whatever it says to fit whatever narrative he wants, he cherrypicks to an insane degree and often deliberately skips paragraphs, sentences or even the end of the literal sentence he is reading. I've seen him do this over and over again and it's something incredibly prevalent in lovely scientific papers written by asshats who don't know what they're doing but manage to sound like it enough that they get away with it.

So, no, he is not "very good at researching", he's good at bullshitting.

Ah, my two degrees

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Prince John posted:

Since we're in bizarro-land tonight:

Jeremy Hunt: "hero nurses need a pay rise and I'll be personally asking the Chancellor to make it happen"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40293318http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40293318

I don't loving trust him. I won't be voting for him. He's a oval office angling for Tory leadership

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Trying to appear human and nice but hiding the fact that he's still a oval office is a classic Tory tactic you should not be falling for at this point.

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

Al-Saqr posted:

Lol this is the exact opposite of reality. he's incredibly poo poo at reading anything, not even the FIRST loving PAGE of many of the studies he cites that contradicts what he's saying.

https://www.reddit.com/r/jfg/comments/6gi7c6/report_on_the_methods_used_by_sargon_of_akkad_in/

lol

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
"Im going to give you a payrise, you X need more!"
- Says oval office in front of a crowd of X

Of course he will say this kind of poo poo.
Do you think though its due to this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40248366

quote:

There has been a sharp drop in nurses registering to work in the UK since the EU referendum, figures suggest.
Last July, 1,304 nurses from the EU joined the Nursing and Midwifery Council register, compared to 46 in April this year, a fall of 96%.
The Health Foundation said the findings could not be more stark and said they should act as a "wake-up call".

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

happyhippy posted:

CUDDLING SOMEONE! PSWAH NO ONE NEEDS THAT!

Sargon is turning into a bitter extremist, the more the Tories and Brexit looks poo poo, the more he will turn into this generations Alf Garnett.

Brexit is the hill Sargon has chosen to die on

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009


drat.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Some guy on reddit has had a good long think about it on his personal subreddit and decided this Sargon chap is actually a good lad who means well. He titles it a 'Report' so you know it is an intellectual work of intellectualism. People write lengthy essays in the comments about whether a youtube guy was right once. Everyone involved has spent their limited time on this earth incredibly well.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
Sargon sure sounds a lot like a cretin but the only thing I can provably say is that he quoted the wrong study on campus sexual assault and then either didn't read or ignored a fuckload of it to get his views out so I'm not enormously predisposed to think he's got Cool And Good opinions about brexit.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Sargon's whole deal is he is very very good at researching and collating information to use in his videos.
Carl's deal is that hes a YouTube personality that talks about politics, science and culture, so its only logical to assume that his knowledge is at best rudimentary. And its not an incorrect assumption.

Missingnoleader
Mar 10, 2014

Just realized a kid was asking the mayor how many kids died in the fire.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
Times is reporting cladding contractors used a £22 psm Reynobond panel, which was flammable, rather than a different £24 psm Reynobond panel, which was not. Times estimates this saved perhaps £5,000 (who exactly would have pocketed the difference is not stated - I assume it is unclear at this point)

critically the former are not permitted for high rise usage in the US and Germany, but not the UK

hmm

http://twitter.com/tompeck/status/875464570302803968/

ronya fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jun 16, 2017

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
That first headline's quite misleading, isn't it? "Seize homes of the rich" sounds like "Kick people we don't like out of their houses so we can house the homeless" when in fact nobody is living in these places. They're not "homes", they're investments.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Gort posted:

That first headline's quite misleading, isn't it? "Seize homes of the rich" sounds like "Kick people we don't like out of their houses so we can house the homeless" when in fact nobody is living in these places. They're not "homes", they're investments.

The press? Misrepresenting the jam man? Surely not.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

Gort posted:

That first headline's quite misleading, isn't it? "Seize homes of the rich" sounds like "Kick people we don't like out of their houses so we can house the homeless" when in fact nobody is living in these places. They're not "homes", they're investments.

The odd thing is that the way this sort of thing works is that I'd say a tidy 2% of Times readers will see the headline and flat-out agree with it

By misrepresenting him they push the Overton window a little bit more

Missingnoleader
Mar 10, 2014

spectralent posted:

The press? Misrepresenting the jam man? Surely not.

Election season is over yes?

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Spangly A posted:

Yes, the tories murdered these people. They attempted to filibuster fire safety debates, and seriously argued that if sprinklers were good then the tenants should buy them.

Jesus. Just hearing that would move Paul Ryan to proud tears.

The right wing of Anglosphere politics p. much must be defeated at all costs at this point, and I'm glad we still have the regulations we do

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

I'm sure even more of the public will agree with Jezza if they figure out a lot of empty homes in London are owned by Russian oligarchs and other assorted foreigners.

E: wow

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/875335649724858368

GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jun 16, 2017

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

What the gently caress is happening?

Missingnoleader
Mar 10, 2014

Baron Corbyn posted:

I'm sure even more of the public will agree with Jezza if they figure out a lot of empty homes in London are owned by Russian oligarchs and other assorted foreigners.

E: wow

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/875335649724858368

You know almost thought he was being considerate, before looking at the replies.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

What the gently caress is happening?

Weathercock who doesn't care if you notice whether he's a cock

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
re: piers morgan

what you don't see is the twenty photographers lined up whilst some aides jostle them back - the fact that the photograph hints at the existence of other cameras at all (the one you can see on the top right corner) is already unusual. I doubt either of the photograph's subjects felt particularly empathetic at the moment, except perhaps in solidarity with the Alaskan moose being tailed by a cloud of mosquitoes

which is true for every politician - what the media wants is photo ops for its narrative du jour. you have to give them that or face unremitting hostility, even if that narrative makes no sense and praises all the wrong people

at the moment the wind is blowing due Corbyn so he should make the most of it whilst it lasts

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
A lot of these media types are bootlicking little bastards who worship authority above all else, and after the utter humiliation of may and her blatant display of ineptitude in the past couple of weeks or so, combined with corbyn overcoming every single odd including his own party and bringing Labour back to power in a swing not seen since the 40s it's absolutely the underdog story the media loves to eat up, so I can't say I'm surprised Corbyn gets thrown a bone here and there from fuckfaces like Morgan.

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Serene Dragon posted:

Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there because Sargon doesn't do this. As someone in scientific research, I can tell you with certainty that Sargon absolutely 100% does not do proper research at all. At most, he reads the abstract and/or opening paragraph of a paper and he twists whatever it says to fit whatever narrative he wants, he cherrypicks to an insane degree and often deliberately skips paragraphs, sentences or even the end of the literal sentence he is reading. I've seen him do this over and over again and it's something incredibly prevalent in lovely scientific papers written by asshats who don't know what they're doing but manage to sound like it enough that they get away with it.

So, no, he is not "very good at researching", he's good at bullshitting.

Hbomberguy did a whole (meticulously researched) video basically about how poo poo Sargon and Youtube "rationalists" in general are at doing research:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc24YtUslCU

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