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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Tesseraction posted:

Get the gently caress out or if you are going to stay, do so in a burning building.

Poor taste this.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

sassassin posted:

Poor taste this.

He's come in here and been smug about poor people being burned to death, he can go gently caress himself.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

sassassin posted:

Poor taste this.

Nah, I think it's about time the people responsible for all the poo poo in the world are actually the ones who suffer from it.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



GaussianCopula posted:

You seem to have hit your head - I hope the 350m per week that are now going to the NHS will allow them to help you.

Next time you want to make some unfounded accusation (I get that this is a British thing, looking at your papers) you should make sure that they can't be refuted this easily - guess who never wanted to play Germany https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773305&userid=176812

gently caress off, Nazi

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Gaussian is a nazi gently caress who only ever turns up in the thread when there's some disaster for him to breathlessly gloat over.

He's a carrion feeding nazi oval office and needs to gently caress off.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Good on The Sun for taking a stand against sensationalist and inaccurate reporting

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/875685483346526210

the absolute cunts

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

hit button posted:

He's right. DSMA notices aren't like injunctions that are issued for individual incidents or information. They're a set of standing voluntary guidelines for the media which outline the circumstances in which classified information should not be relayed to the public. When necessary, the DSMA committee may contact editors to alert them that certain information falls under the existing notices.


Almost entirely right, except that that DA-notices are issued on top of the standing ones. For example PRISM and Snowden had a DA-Notice slapped on it.

Edit: Lily Allen was right in how much the death toll has been downplayed in the media though, mid-day today was the first time the police really acknowledged that it's looking at 100+ (30 dead already, over 70 missing).

PST fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jun 16, 2017

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Tesseraction posted:

He's come in here and been smug about poor people being burned to death, he can go gently caress himself.

Having seen images of people dying in burning buildings over the last couple of days I don't really care what your justification is.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, no matter how "smug".

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

sassassin posted:

Having seen images of people dying in burning buildings over the last couple of days I don't really care what your justification is.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, no matter how "smug".

And he looked at the picture of Aylan Kurdi drowned to death and still said that European coastguards sinking more boats was the only way to stop Arabs invading Europe. You're defending a man who literally lusts for minorities being murdered.

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


PST posted:

Almost entirely right, except that that DA-notices are issued on top of the standing ones. For example PRISM and Snowden had a DA-Notice slapped on it.

DA notices haven't been a thing since 2015 though. They were replaced by DSMA notices.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Tesseraction posted:

I mean it set the whole side of the building on fire within 15 minutes. If that's not responsible then I'd like to know what magical item inside the building was really responsible.

Well there was the gas pipes put in the open without any protection in the communal areas and the only fire escape. +5 thermal damage?

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



feedmegin posted:

'There has sadly been some political game playing about the terrible fire in London'

'As for the record, fires in London went down 50 per cent in my mayoralty.'

Yes, I agree, there certainly has been some political game playing. gently caress you Boris.

No need for that language. Just tell him to get stuffed.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Comstar posted:

Well there was the gas pipes put in the open without any protection in the communal areas and the only fire escape. +5 thermal damage?

I'm starting to think the people in charge of renovating this building weren't very safe about it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Samovar posted:

No need for that language. Just tell him to get stuffed.

ayyyyyyyy lmao

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


It genuinely feels like this is going to end in riots. I can't ever remember seeing this level of anger so publicly. I guess in part it's the rise of social media, but it really does seem all pervading.

There was just an interview with a goony looking guy on BBC news whose family were instructed to stay put, but instead rushed around to alert their neighbours and got their floor out. It was both heartbreaking and also perhaps a parable on the state of the county today.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Tesseraction posted:

And he looked at the picture of Aylan Kurdi drowned to death and still said that European coastguards sinking more boats was the only way to stop Arabs invading Europe. You're defending a man who literally lusts for minorities being murdered.

I'm saying using burning building quips is in extremely poor taste.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

sassassin posted:

I'm saying using burning building quips is in extremely poor taste.

My point is wishing on him what he's gleefully posting about having happened to other people. I'm not saying it's kindergarten-friendly.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003
The best thing about this awful tragedy is the simmering anger of the people living there. There needs to be changes and their anger helps to make that change come about.

Also Emma Dent-Coad has been awesome about this, and the Queen. I am happy that more media outlets are seeming to report the sheer incompetence of the tories to respond in a humane way here.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Official report on The Sun's little shittery https://twitter.com/mediaguardian/status/875670565356318720

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Samovar posted:

No need for that language. Just tell him to get stuffed.

This is kinda what I hope happens every time he starts talking in Commons. The whole opposition just chants over and over, in unison "GET STUFFED".

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Xaerael posted:

This is kinda what I hope happens every time he starts talking in Commons. The whole opposition just chants over and over, in unison "GET STUFFED".

How dare the Labour benches politicise the fact that he's a bloated piece of poo poo!

SA_Avenger
Oct 22, 2012

jabby posted:

Over 1,800 people now saying they will attend the rally tonight.

There is almost certainly more anger on the streets than at any time since the 2011 riots.

A volunteer was talking on twitter this morning as to how she thinks that the gov actually wants riots to start so they can shift blame and subject

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

SA_Avenger posted:

A volunteer was talking on twitter this morning as to how she thinks that the gov actually wants riots to start so they can shift blame and subject

Even if this is true I don't think it'll play out the way the tories might hope.
I laugh heartily at the future political prospects of any tory brave enough to put their head above the parapet to condemn rioting that results from this carnival of callousness, greed, and ineptitude..

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

How dare the rioters politicise this tragedy! yells May as the military police gun down the masses

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003
It is crazy just how much they are torpedoing themselves lately. The referendum, the snap election, this awful incident.
Are they honestly trying to give another party Brexit because they don't want to do it?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Hahaha Kensington and Chelsea Council have announced that the previous press release was the wrong one, and that the survivors will be rehouse within the borough after all.

Weird that they had such a misleading press release lying around where it could be accidentally announced.

:thunk:

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Tesseraction posted:

How dare the rioters politicise this tragedy! yells May as the military police gun down the masses

if the police were told to crack down hard on the rioters would they though? I feel like rule number one for anyone intending to become a lovely authoritarian is to keep the fuzz happy and on-side and I don't think May has done a good job of that.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Tesseraction posted:

Hahaha Kensington and Chelsea Council have announced that the previous press release was the wrong one, and that the survivors will be rehouse within the borough after all.

Weird that they had such a misleading press release lying around where it could be accidentally announced.

:thunk:
This is farcical. These fuckheads are fumbling at every conceivable turn. Thry are doing literally every single thing wrong. As wrongly as humanly possible.
It defies belief.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Baron Corbyn posted:

if the police were told to crack down hard on the rioters would they though? I feel like rule number one for anyone intending to become a lovely authoritarian is to keep the fuzz happy and on-side and I don't think May has done a good job of that.

Corbyn installed as General Secretary by a Metropolitan Police Coup.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Cowardly May already surrendering to Eurocrats and filthy continentals.

Honestly though, there was no other choice.

quote:

Brexit talks to start on EU's terms

The U.K. government has agreed to the EU’s demand to start Brexit negotiations with the divorce settlement before moving on to trade issues, two EU diplomats told POLITICO.

A key stipulation from the EU side has been that the divorce agreement must be largely settled before the talks can move on to any future relationship between the bloc and its soon-to-be-departing member. A spokesperson for the U.K.’s Brexit Department said it expected both phases of the negotiations “to be agreed alongside each other,” but did not deny that the talks would focus initially on divorce issues including agreeing the U.K.’s financial obligations.

POLITICO revealed on Thursday that the Brexit talks would get underway Monday as planned despite the start date being thrown into doubt by the inconclusive result of the U.K.’s general election. Prime Minister Theresa May did not receive an overall majority and is in talks with the Democratic Unionist Party over a deal to prop up her government. The queen’s speech, which lays out the government’s program, has been delayed until Wednesday.

The Commission’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier has made clear that he wants to agree on divorce terms before moving on to discussing the U.K.’s future relationship with the bloc at a later stage in the negotiations. Barnier’s mandate, issued by EU governments, currently includes negotiating the EU’s priorities for an exit deal only, so his room for maneuver is limited.

“It is indeed our understanding that the agenda of the first negotiation round consists of issues related to the first phase of negotiations, which means citizens, money, Northern Ireland and some other exit-related questions,” one diplomat said. “So this would imply that the U.K. understands the sequencing.”

The talks, which are to begin in Brussels on Monday June 19, “will focus on issues related to citizens’ rights, the financial settlement, the Northern Irish border and other separation issues, as part of the sequenced approach to the talks,” the European Commission said in a press release Friday, adding that “both sides will also discuss the structure of the negotiations and the issues that need to be addressed over the coming months.”

The Brexit Department spokesperson said: “Our view is that withdrawal agreement and terms of the future relationship must be agreed alongside each other. We are clear this is what is set out in Article 50.”

“We believe that the withdrawal process cannot be concluded without the future relationship also being taken into account. As the EU has itself said, ‘nothing is agreed, until everything is agreed,’” they added.

The agenda for the opening day of talks begins at 11 a.m. with an introductory session involving Barnier, the U.K.’s Brexit Secretary David Davis and officials. It is followed by a working lunch at 12:30 p.m. between Barnier and Davis. The afternoon session consists of working groups and other meetings before a press conference at around 6:30 p.m.

By the way, "other separation issues" means "pay us what you owe us, perfidious Albion".

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Baron Corbyn posted:

if the police were told to crack down hard on the rioters would they though? I feel like rule number one for anyone intending to become a lovely authoritarian is to keep the fuzz happy and on-side and I don't think May has done a good job of that.

its a bold move as a right wing authoritarian to gently caress over the police

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


Baron Corbyn posted:

if the police were told to crack down hard on the rioters would they though? I feel like rule number one for anyone intending to become a lovely authoritarian is to keep the fuzz happy and on-side and I don't think May has done a good job of that.

Maybe worth noting that the TSG got decommissioned in 2016 as part of the Met's cost-cutting measures. :laugh:

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

VideoGames posted:

It is crazy just how much they are torpedoing themselves lately. The referendum, the snap election, this awful incident.
Are they honestly trying to give another party Brexit because they don't want to do it?

I hope so. I think Corbyn could make something of it.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Tesseraction posted:

Hahaha Kensington and Chelsea Council have announced that the previous press release was the wrong one, and that the survivors will be rehouse within the borough after all.

Weird that they had such a misleading press release lying around where it could be accidentally announced.

:thunk:

I'm looking for that tweet where the Tory says it's the last time they'll tell the truth to the electorate but can't find it. Imagine I posted that with the caption "I guess they forgot this".

Jose posted:

its a bold move as a right wing authoritarian to gently caress over the police

isn't loving everyone over without considering the possible blowback for her May's gimmick though?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jose posted:

its a bold move as a right wing authoritarian to gently caress over the police

Liz Kendall did say she liked NWA right? Clearly May is triangulating.

gently caress Tha Police indeed.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Baron Corbyn posted:

I'm looking for that tweet where the Tory says it's the last time they'll tell the truth to the electorate but can't find it. Imagine I posted that with the caption "I guess they forgot this".


https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/874985825255247872

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

I'm actually beginning to suspect the conspiracy theorizing that the tories are trying to throw an upcoming election so someone else can take the fall for the upcoming Brexit shambles might not be so outlandish. If it weren't against the backdrop of the awful fire, i'd almost call this a Thick Of It-style comedy sketch come to life.

I haven't seen the latest Question Time yet - going to watch it tonight. I imagine there are going to be some choice words said about what has happened over the last week.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Tesseraction posted:

Liz Kendall did say she liked NWA right? Clearly May is triangulating.

gently caress Tha Police indeed.

Nah, Liz was into Public Enemy. Fight the Power was her favourite song. I'm not making this up.

TomViolence fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jun 16, 2017

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

TomViolence posted:

Nah, Liz was into Public Enemy. Fight the Power was her favourite song. I'm not maknig this up.
I feel like Liz Kendall really "gets" rebellious young people.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

PiCroft posted:

I haven't seen the latest Question Time yet - going to watch it tonight. I imagine there are going to be some choice words said about what has happened over the last week.

Fair warning it has Laura Perrins on it, someone who was trending on Twitter before QT even aired with Irish people (she's from the RoI) apologising in advance and saying she doesn't represent the Irish people.

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