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Vahakyla posted:She is a well educated, charismatic person with a distinguished career, a clean past, and she is a progressive, and she is portrayed well in the literature about her and her career. She's the ideal USMC Officer, and broke barriers herself. To be fair, wanting to go overseas to bomb poor browns probably holds more weight than a distinguished career, a clean past or being a progressive. e: More Saluki Dogs 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It becomes law in 10 days automatically SubponticatePoster posted:2/3 majority can override a veto. Or if he's too busy tweeting and watching the news and doesn't veto it within a certain amount of time iirc it becomes law anyway. Awesome.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:55
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Crows Turn Off posted:Trump directing Fox News to report on Seth Rich and Trump dictating his son's meeting with the Russian lawyer.... good lord. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FzCeV0ZFc Remember when Howard Dean couldn't possibly be President because his weird guttural yet at the same time falsetto scream was just too unpresidential? What was that like 2004? Too unpresidential......must have been cause he was a Democrat and they're allowed to do like 5% of the batshit crazy things Republicans seem to be able to do if they want any chance at hell in hell at the Presidency. I'm only convinced Obama won against McCain because he managed to tap into some milder sense of populism and a youth movement at just the right time much like Trump and because Bush was so unpopular at a time of less Partisianship that it dragged the Republican banner down just enough. I think by the time he practically became a meme with the Hope poster it was in the cards.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:56
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Kale posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FzCeV0ZFc Deans campaign was already hosed before the scream.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:59
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Deans campaign was already hosed before the scream. Thank you. The scream did not kill Dean's campaign, if anything, it endeared people to him.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:59
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Petr posted:It's true! Look at the rap sheet. Also, the post got deleted. That's dumb.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:59
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I can't wait for all the "progressives" to start attacking democrats because they chose to run a veteran in Kentucky. Seriously, what the gently caress is wrong with these people? Bernie Sander's platform doesn't win a house seat in Kentucky. I'm sure we'll be relitigating the 2020 primaries in 2018.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:00
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Coming in a distant 3rd place in Iowa with only 18% of the vote is what killed Dean's campaign. After that, John Edwards (lol) cannibalized most of Dean's support. The Dean scream was just a "kick them when they're down" thing that got really popular because we still had a certain expectation of dignity for national political figures back then.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:01
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I can't wait for all the "progressives" to start attacking democrats because they chose to run a veteran in Kentucky. The rare preemptive "the BernieBros are at it again!" - I like your gumption, no need to wait.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:02
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I can't wait for all the "progressives" to start attacking democrats because they chose to run a veteran in Kentucky. I'm sure people have already started calling her a baby killer.
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This is a couple hours old, might have been mentioned, but since were talkin' bout Armageddon https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/892396340830928896 "Sen. Lindsey Graham: Trump Says War With North Korea an Option" A war with NoKo is dependent on all warheads getting blown up before they can be used. And while the icbm system isn't deployed yet, other systems that could do express delivery to Seoul certainly are. Maybe Tokyo, maybe american military bases receiving personnel in preparation. There's a lot of unacceptable "if"s here if someone fucks something up. ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 19:03
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Rigel posted:Mcaskill did this in Missouri. She ran "attack" ads against Todd Akin saying he was too conservative for missouri, and the dumbshit gop primary voters went ah-hah, she's scared of Akin!!! You forgot the best part of the story which is that Senator McCaskill celebrated Akin winning the primary by shotgunning a beer. https://twitter.com/PlentyLadylike/status/630515521084112896
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Aug 1, 2017 19:03
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I can't wait for all the "progressives" to start attacking democrats because they chose to run a veteran in Kentucky. What about Bernie polling higher than Hillary against Trump in 2016?
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Aug 1, 2017 19:06
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm sure people have already started calling her a baby killer. She's a jarhead so it's probably not the worst thing she's been called.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:07
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I can't wait for all the "progressives" to start attacking democrats because they chose to run a veteran in Kentucky. You can go read the Dems suck thread anytime you want.
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BlueberryCanary posted:A "de facto permanent shutdown" would mean the literal end of the United States as a nation. Without the military maintaining a monopoly on violence - a political science term - there would be an immense power vacuum. Americans would need another way to protect themselves from foreign intrusion, and so would be forced to make their own militaries. This would likely be spearheaded by state governments, considering their strong organization and the large amount of faith Americans already put into them. And without the federal government, there would be nothing to prevent this clearly unconstitutional move. I don't think we're talking about the same thing at all. The military does not cease to function during a government shutdown. I'm talking about the kind of Shutdown that happened in 2013, where 800,000 federal workers were furloughed. You can read more about it on Wikipedia, but here's a topline summary of what was affected: quote:4.1 Domestic effects Do you notice a pattern in those effects? Other than the effect on businesses who depend on military contracts, those are all programs that Republicans wish didn't exist. The GOP doesn't give a care if domestic violence shelters get shuttered - in fact, they're glad of it! If the goal of the Republicans is to "destroy the administrative state" (it is), then the shutdown is an effective tool for accomplishing that goal. That's all I'm saying. It seems like we're guaranteed a shutdown because it accomplishes Republican goals. If section 4.1.4 turns out to hit Republicans too hard in the pocketbook, then that might be a reason we don't shut down.
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SHuckS press briefing should start shortly https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/press-briefing-press-secretary-sarah-sanders-2
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The DEA sent out an agency-wide memo warning agents to not listen to Trump, because you will lose your job if you "rough up" someone in custody like he suggested. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dea-acting-director-agency-wide-memo quote:WSJ: DEA Sent Agency-Wide Memo After Trump ‘Condoned Police Misconduct’
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:This is a couple hours old, might have been mentioned, but since were talkin' bout Armageddon i honestly believe he will do it or at least try. he wants to be remembered and if he "solves" the korean issue then he will have a legacy. i think he will just start bombing one day or announce it on twitter.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:This is a couple hours old, might have been mentioned, but since were talkin' bout Armageddon Do the nukes even matter? The north has thousands of hidden artillery cannons all aimed and ready to go at carpeting Seoul in artillery. They could probably lob a few waves of incendiary rounds into the heart of the city and just watch the fireworks.
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Trabisnikof posted:You can go read the Dems suck thread anytime you want. That thread is unreadable, and we would all be better off if the regular posters in it were banned, the thread was gassed, and then posting in bad faith and lovely gimmicks would also be bannable again.
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Imo the days when just being a troop should buy credibility were over with the last days of the draft. Being a troop now is a decision with huge risks and costs but also pretty substantial professional rewards. Otoh I live in a country where I'm on a different page with enough plausible democratic party voters on that count that I'm just letting it ride. Otooh we still need to have a big reckoning with our cultural military worship and that conversation is not enabled by going forward with military experience as a selling point. So I dunno.
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Nucleic Acids posted:So, how long till the "calls for this start growing"? The entire House GOP caucus could be "calling for it" and it still wouldn't matter. The used car salesmen and Regent University lawyers in the House's opinions about the Senate are worth a pile of horseshit. Actually worth less, horseshit can be used as fertilizer.
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mod sassinator posted:Do the nukes even matter? The north has thousands of hidden artillery cannons all aimed and ready to go at carpeting Seoul in artillery. They could probably lob a few waves of incendiary rounds into the heart of the city and just watch the fireworks. Regardless of who starts and/or finishes a war with NK, South Korea is going to have a VERY bad day.
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Does anyone else think that unless we resolve things peacefully with North Korea, we pretty much have no option but to invade sometime soon? Better now than 2 years from now when they can reliably hit a major city in the US?Retro42 posted:Regardless of who starts and/or finishes a war with NK, South Korea is going to have a VERY bad day. This
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mod sassinator posted:Do the nukes even matter? The north has thousands of hidden artillery cannons all aimed and ready to go at carpeting Seoul in artillery. They could probably lob a few waves of incendiary rounds into the heart of the city and just watch the fireworks. Even if they have no way of launching them, if North Korea is invaded the leaders will probably realize that their day is done and detonate tactical nukes in combat. Invading NK is a disastrous, moronic idea. Randbrick posted:Imo the days when just being a troop should buy credibility were over with the last days of the draft. Being a troop now is a decision with huge risks and costs but also pretty substantial professional rewards. On the other hand, American society is arranged in a way that joining the armed forces in order to not become homeless is an understandable decision.
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And if I join the Trump administration, I'm the one who won't get betrayed.
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Trabisnikof posted:Most of the year voting machines are stored unsecured in sheds and warehouses. The people who run elections are volunteers with basically no background check or anything. Physical access isn't that hard to aquire as you're acting like it is. Remember after the shitshow of the 2000 election when everyone said the solution was electronic voting machines. Yeah. Who could have predicted that that might make the problem even worse?
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I can't wait for all the "progressives" to start attacking democrats because they chose to run a veteran in Kentucky. McGrath looks good to me, but Kentucky is actually exactly the sort of place where a Bernie Sanders platform would do well: lots of working class folks whose communities have suffered from globalization over the past few decades, a popular state health care exchange, a heavy degree of dissatisfaction with Trumpcare, etc. Populism works in places in like Kentucky.
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Majorian posted:McGrath looks good to me, but Kentucky is actually exactly the sort of place where a Bernie Sanders platform would do well: lots of working class folks whose communities have suffered from globalization over the past few decades, a popular state health care exchange, a heavy degree of dissatisfaction with Trumpcare, etc. Populism works in places in like Kentucky. Nothing about being a veteran means you can't have a progressive platform. McGrath is smartly focusing on Obamacare because the GOP trying to burn it to the ground is basically THE issue right now.
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The pivot is gonna happen guys! Aaaaaaaaaaany day now...
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You just know that was Chuck Todd.
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Enigma89 posted:Does anyone else think that unless we resolve things peacefully with North Korea, we pretty much have no option but to invade sometime soon? Better now than 2 years from now when they can reliably hit a major city in the US? Nope. There's no reason to invade ever really, unless they forcibly try to take back SK and then I believe we're treaty bound. But them just having a nuke doesn't mean we should invade. Lots of countries have nukes.
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Lightning Lord posted:Nothing about being a veteran means you can't have a progressive platform. McGrath is smartly focusing on Obamacare because the GOP trying to burn it to the ground is basically THE issue right now. This. In districts that voted for Hillary, "gently caress Trump!" is the message. In districts that voted for Trump, healthcare is the message.
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I like how people talk about Heinrich Himmler Kelly like he's somehow a moderating influence....
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Retro42 posted:Regardless of who starts and/or finishes a war with NK, South Korea is going to have a VERY bad day. How much will RAM and electronics prices spike?
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Hellblazer187 posted:Nope. There's no reason to invade ever really, unless they forcibly try to take back SK and then I believe we're treaty bound. But them just having a nuke doesn't mean we should invade. Lots of countries have nukes. Well that's not really the question I asked. I was asking if military action happens would you prefer it now or later? Later could be with a more competent president but further DPRK missile capabilities or now where the homeland is relatively safe but have Trump at the helm. e: Basically take the peaceful option off the table, what is the less worst option.
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Enigma89 posted:Does anyone else think that unless we resolve things peacefully with North Korea, we pretty much have no option but to invade sometime soon? Better now than 2 years from now when they can reliably hit a major city in the US? People have been saying this poo poo for decades and every crisis ends up getting defused with bags of rice. I swear it's like nobody remembers Iraq. There are no countries whose existential purpose is the destruction of the US. Not NK, not Iran, nobody. It's a lovely situation that, believe it or not, has actually gone a lot better thanks to US involvement than it otherwise would have. It's also why we need a god drat State Department.
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Enigma89 posted:e: Why is it off the table?
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