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Serf posted:call a towing company. what are the cops gonna do? show up and laugh at you? one time i ran outta gas and a cop saw me walking down the road with a gas can and drove me to a gas station and back to my car ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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deadgoon posted:one time i ran outta gas and a cop saw me walking down the road with a gas can and drove me to a gas station and back to my car ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ please don't out yourself as a white in this thread  the purity bee has been dispatched to concerned citizen's location, please remain still and await the swift sting of purestrain brocialism
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Concerned Citizen posted:just to be clear are you all actually against compulsory education or something The answer in situations like this is to provide extra support to parents or, in the worst case, remove the children from their custody. Sky-high fines or jail-time are likely to just make the situation even worse. Concerned Citizen posted:is there any state that doesn't actually have criminal penalties for refusing to send your kid to school? The article itself even addresses complaints about it being overly draconian, so it's pretty clear at a glance that we're not just dealing with a "business as usual" sort of thing. Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 01:55 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Condiv posted:"well in a system which is not biased against the poor or minorities, it's perfectly fine and dandy to sentence parents to jail for the truancy of their kids! we all live in a just world after all! hey look i'm sorry that i have a thing about this. i was a latchkey kid, my parents were alcoholics, my dad beat up my mom on multiple occasions, i spent high school with another family member in a different state. leaving that environment was the best thing that happened to me. i understand not everyone has a good place to go to but there are some really bad households and if anything i don't think we do enough to suss them out - chronic truancy is a pretty common indicator that something is wrong, though.
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When I was on the Cross Country team in high school there were multiple times a cop would see me running down the road during practice and offer me a ride and I would have to say "sorry, I don't think Coach would like that" Why yes I am white
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But really, what a fantastic message to teach kids, that if their parents aren't perfect saints, the swift arm of the state will come down upon them and enslave their loved ones. Let's just absolutely terrify them into following the will of the corporate owned ruling class lockstep, that's not like, fascism or anything
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"there are some really bad households and if anything i don't think we do enough to suss them out -- $2000 and time in prison is not nearly a strong enough punishment for your child skipping school" -- Concerned Citizen
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another time i got a flat tire and went to put on a donut but i didnt have a lug wrench in the trunk for some dumb reason so i was sittin in my car on the side of the road like an rear end in a top hat without a phone or any real cash and a cop pulled up behind me and gave me directions to a mechanic i could walk to to borrow a wrench (but he said he couldn't drive me because he had to keep patrolling) so idk if that counts as helping because walking sux and he probably just didnt WANT to give me a ride
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Ytlaya posted:The answer in situations like this is to provide extra support to parents or, in the worst case, remove the children from their custody. Sky-high fines or jail-time are likely to just make the situation even worse. i don't really think we're in fundamental disagreement, i just honestly don't know that much about the ca law.
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If we could just jail the child instead then we could definitely make sure they attend compulsory classes.
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basically cops are nice to u if ur white and not an anarchist and dont smell or look like pot
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FuriousxGeorge posted:If we could just jail the child instead then we could definitely make sure they attend compulsory classes. texas was actually doing this
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deadgoon posted:another time i got a flat tire and went to put on a donut but i didnt have a lug wrench in the trunk for some dumb reason so i was sittin in my car on the side of the road like an rear end in a top hat without a phone or any real cash and a cop pulled up behind me and gave me directions to a mechanic i could walk to to borrow a wrench (but he said he couldn't drive me because he had to keep patrolling) so idk if that counts as helping because walking sux and he probably just didnt WANT to give me a ride or poo poo he coulda just let me use HIS fuckin wrench god what an rear end in a top hat
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Rastor posted:When I was on the Cross Country team in high school there were multiple times a cop would see me running down the road during practice and offer me a ride and I would have to say "sorry, I don't think Coach would like that" the only negative experience ive had with cops are when i loitered in front of a convenience store as a teenager. they followed us as we left and pulled us over like twenty minutes later and told us to "go back to your home town" i lived like 3 blocks away
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Concerned Citizen posted:hey look i'm sorry that i have a thing about this. i was a latchkey kid, my parents were alcoholics, my dad beat up my mom on multiple occasions, i spent high school with another family member in a different state. leaving that environment was the best thing that happened to me. i understand not everyone has a good place to go to but there are some really bad households and if anything i don't think we do enough to suss them out - chronic truancy is a pretty common indicator that something is wrong, though. As someone as a kid whose family was afraid to pursue a trial over a crime that happened to me because I'd missed quite a few days from illness because the school district were being such assholes over the idea of me missing one day of school again, I have very little tolerance for excessive power to punish people over alleged truancy, but that's me.
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Condiv posted:texas was actually doing this yet another reason texas is the worst state in the union behind kansas and florida thread can feel free to elect other bad states
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deadgoon posted:or poo poo he coulda just let me use HIS fuckin wrench god what an rear end in a top hat its probably been 10 years and i only just now realized this, im an idiot
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the mechanic let me borrow a lug wrench without paying however he made me leave my license so he could be certain i would bring it back
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Maybe food stamps for families with children should factor in grades, because nothing motivates like hunger, and it'll make them have skin in the game. (I don't actually believe this, I just wanted to try and be creative at making things worse)
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UHD posted:yet another reason texas is the worst state in the union Kentucky loving blows.
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Probably Magic posted:Kentucky loving blows. never been why is it terrible
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i got assigned a social worker for missing school a lot because of ~~~behavioral problems~~~ and my mom was threatened by CPS several times over it and, idk, i doubt foster care would have improved my life but who knows!!!!!
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Condiv posted:"this person deserves to go to prison" - CC as he dines on catered lobster risotto at a DNC function hey, go easy on cc now. there were times when he had to eat frozen ahi tuna instead of fresh! he's a poor just like the rest of us!
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UHD posted:never been Dumb fuckers who weren't actually in the confederacy but pretend they are, also, imagine the worst of the South but without the hospitality.
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Concerned Citizen posted:just to be clear are you all actually against compulsory education or something I hate education, and women.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:hey, go easy on cc now. there were times when he had to eat frozen ahi tuna instead of fresh! he's a poor just like the rest of us! wtf you literally won enormous amounts of money on a game show, you aren't poor
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Concerned Citizen posted:well those are called "compulsory education laws." idk what other way you're supposed to get a parent who deliberately refuses to send their kids to school to do so without compelling them. it's obviously very different from someone who has chronic health issues or other circumstances that make it difficult to get their kid to school on time or consistently, there's no reason that should be a criminal case, but in the case of someone who is healthy has the means but refuses to do so, there's clearly serious problems in that household. Lmao and how can we get drugs off the street without throwing users in prison, too? How do other countries handle this poo poo??? Police just bludgeon everything until it works, right? That's what social programs are? I think? I dunno, I'm only paid to check boxes on a big spreadsheet labeled "engagements."
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deadgoon posted:one time i ran outta gas and a cop saw me walking down the road with a gas can and drove me to a gas station and back to my car ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ white ppl: aaa black ppl: kkk
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Compulsory education... But people aren't thrown in jail. What. How. Just, what? The HECK
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(It sure is a shame that the only available options are lovely laws and no laws at all.) Love’s a funny animal Be careful what you tell yourself Fairy tales and anecdotes Both dangerous for amateurs
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Al! posted:white ppl: aaa literally my irl real life experience that i have literally experienced in irl real life
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*mashing fingers against temple* we have to fix problems in the community. Our education system is in shambles... I think.... Wait! More.... Prison...? For parents of underperforming students. Yes... Yes!
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deadgoon posted:literally my irl real life experience that i have literally experienced in irl real life im not contesting that the cops are p good at helping peepz with their car troubles. maybe they should do that full time
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Vox Nihili posted:Compulsory education... But people aren't thrown in jail. What. How. Just, what? The HECK what countries don't have criminal penalties assigned to not sending your kids to school? i checked 3 random european countries (finland, germany, uk) and all 3 had something, if not necessarily jail at least fines
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Al! posted:white ppl: aaa
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gather 'round, everybody, as i, concerned citizen, tell you of the hardships that i endured growing up in absolute poverty: i once had to walk from one end of my private school and back, in dress shoes, on completely level ground in a climate-controlled environment. that couldn't've been more than fifteen-hundred feet, round trip. but i endured. i endured. and that's why parents should go to jail regardless of their circumstances.
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Al! posted:im not contesting that the cops are p good at helping peepz with their car troubles. maybe they should do that full time  the real heroes
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Al! posted:im not contesting that the cops are p good at helping peepz with their car troubles. maybe they should do that full time nationalize AAA and give them patrol cars
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I kind of like how openly and expressly cynical it is to start pitching harris as 'female obama' black president but now with added flavor of 'woman' because that makes everything else go away
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