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Constant posted:also if they dont get this dude to play Rhaegar then they hosed up If Lee Pace played Rhaegar then Robert's Rebellion would become show of the year even if they attached horrible writers/showrunners/etc.
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esperterra posted:Also re: Jorah and the friendzone, I really do think how handsome he is on the show changes the dynamic. His well meaning love, bordering on obsession takes a different tone when he's this hulking, hairy bear of a man and the age gap is much wider. Well she wasn't his waifu, she was his actual wife.
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Solice Kirsk posted:So now that we know the NK is a load bearing boss and that Dany is gonna get pregs because she's mentioned a few times how she "can't" It does feel like maximum D&D writing to do the death & rebirth dichotomy trope in the same episode Cersei miscarries her last would-be child, Jon's magical Targ sperm heals Dany's womb.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Well she wasn't his waifu, she was his actual wife. I know.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Wasn't Sam arguing against that? He was saying that it was just no attachments. Well if they don't have prophylactics it does implicitly say something about going to bonetown. Then again maybe the sex workers in mole town just take moon tea.
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esperterra posted:I know. I figured you'd have to if you were referencing it, but I said it for the benefit of everybody who hasn't read the books.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Remember that GRRM intentionally wrote Danys 13 year old wedding night rape to be erotic. It was consensual in the books, so it's more like a Drogo Polanski thing...
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I figured you'd have to if you were referencing it, but I said it for the benefit of everybody who hasn't read the books. v good
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Captain Splendid posted:It was consensual in the books, so it's more like a Drogo Polanski thing... Consensual sex with a 13-year-old who can't actually refuse
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bloom posted:Tyrion is supposed to be a hideous monster but they cast probably the sexiest small person(or whatever the correct term is) to play him. It's TV, they're not gonna make the good guys ugly. Tyrion has a Tormond approved beard.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Consensual sex with a 13-year-old who can't actually refuse In a society where marrying women off at 12 or so is normal, fwiw.
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bloom posted:Tyrion is supposed to be a hideous monster but they cast probably the sexiest small person(or whatever the correct term is) to play him. It's TV, they're not gonna make the good guys ugly. I think it's just that Dinklage is the best dwarf actor in the business.
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TeaJay posted:Tell me, did you ever wonder why the men of the Night's watch take no wives and father no children? Who wrote that? I want THAT GUY to write the series. It's like night and day, Jesus.
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Captain Splendid posted:It was consensual in the books, so it's more like a Drogo Polanski thing... that girl was drugged and also said no.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I think it's just that Dinklage is the best dwarf actor in the business. And also good friends with the pilot's original director. He starred in the movie that jumpstarted both of their careers.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:She has her 14th birthday the very day she discovers she's pregnant 
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Captain Splendid posted:It was consensual in the books, so it's more like a Drogo Polanski thing... It's been a while since I read the first book, but I distinctly remember Dany crying and Drogo forcing himself on her.
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esperterra posted:In a society where marrying women off at 12 or so is normal, fwiw. that's a bit of an exaggeration Some characters in their 20s are considered unusually old to be unmarried, but 16/17 (margaery's age when she married joff, catelyn's age when she married ned, cersei's age when she married robert, etc) is more the norm marriages at 12/13 are done, but are frowned upon. I like to imagine, with no basis in the text, that the maesters have been paying attention to their records for long enough that they've figured out childbirth is drastically more dangerous for girls in their early teens than girls in their late teens. but what I'm getting at is dany's and sansa's age-13 marriages are hella creepy even if you apply maximum cultural relativism Trivia posted:Who wrote that? I want THAT GUY to write the series. goreg r.R martin peter vaughan ('s ghost) deserves maximum possible props for giving 110% to every Aemon scene despite being goddamn 90 while filming PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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PupsOfWar posted:that's a bit of an exaggeration Nah you're right, I just mean it isn't as big a deal in Westeros if a girl is married and consummates that marriage before she's sixteen, rather than in tyool 2017 in western civilization. More often than not tho it seems in Westeros it is just betrothals that are done around 10-14, with the actual marriage a bit later. Or married young but not expected to lay together until they're teenagers. In Essos I would imagine the actual marriage and loving part is less restricted than in Westeros. Especially with a culture like the dothraki. Like it's skeazy yeah, but it isn't like some crazy taboo thing in the world presented, is all I mean. And book Drogo at the v least was like the best person she could have married at that time, he cared enough about making sure she was comfortable and wanted it. If she said no he prob still woulda gone to bone town, but he eased her into it. Way less rapey than the show version. Like, him being this big scary brute who ends up treating her like a delicate thing was kind of the point. You go into the chapter expecting what the show gave us, then get something far gentler and sweeter, and makes her falling for him less stockholm syndrome-y.
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Iirc they made it that he didn't know he was a loving crazy person. It isn't well known at all in the show.
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esperterra posted:Also re: Jorah and the friendzone, I really do think how handsome he is on the show changes the dynamic. His well meaning love, bordering on obsession takes a different tone when he's this hulking, hairy bear of a man and the age gap is much wider. He's so handsome that I trust him implicitly: 
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esperterra posted:Iirc they made it that he didn't know he was a loving crazy person. It isn't well known at all in the show. littlefinger knows everything! Accretionist posted:He's so handsome that I trust him implicitly: plus that voice. c'mon dany.
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Groovelord Neato posted:did the show ever explain why littlefinger handed sansa over to a guy he'd 100 percent know would rape her and might actually torture her to death?? Nope, just another part of his character becoming really dumb as soon as D&D passed the book material on him.
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i wonder what their endgame will be for the two of them, just bone once and be like: we shouldnt be doing this or will they have an actual  relationship
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Accretionist posted:He's so handsome that I trust him implicitly: Also the voice
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Constant posted:actually Bran will probably ruin it when he tells Jon he watched him fook his aunt on Treehub Bran probably uses most of his powers to spy on people undressing.
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TeaJay posted:Tell me, did you ever wonder why the men of the Night's watch take no wives and father no children? Thanks to you I just went on a S1/2/3-clip rewatch spree. The dialogue back then was so good; I actually looked forward to dialogue-heavy scenes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAk2hpuAQI this is the goat speech of the show, from one of the goat characters rip aliser thorne a true patriot
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Constant posted:actually Bran will probably ruin it when he tells Jon he watched him fook his aunt on Treehub i dont think bran knows about Boning
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PupsOfWar posted:i dont think bran knows about Boning watching people boning almost killed him
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drunken officeparty posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAk2hpuAQI I see your video and raise you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ5oRxgphRc
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Yestermoment posted:I see your video and raise you: So good. I'm sad Tormund flirting with Brienne is a thing, fun as it is to watch her roll her eyes at him, because the true OTP reunion we should all be hype about is Jaime and his waifu Brienne. Granted D&D will probably ruin it, so maybe it's good we have Tormund to soften the blow with sweet laughter.
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drunken officeparty posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAk2hpuAQI Goddamn, there used to be so many great performances on this show. What do we have now? Everyone is either phoning it in or not being given good material or just can't act. Speculation for the last season: What is the use of Winterfell after the wall comes down? It's a huge, well-stocked fortress but that doesn't mean poo poo to the NK's army (which has several giants, in addition to being larger than any other in Westeros) or his new frost dragon. All the Stark kids and all the random northerners they've gathered are going to have run south real fast.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Speculation for the last season: What is the use of Winterfell after the wall comes down? It's a huge, well-stocked fortress but that doesn't mean poo poo to the NK's army (which has several giants, in addition to being larger than any other in Westeros) or his new frost dragon. All the Stark kids and all the random northerners they've gathered are going to have run south real fast. The new third dragon?
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My question is: will the NK and army slowly and methodically massacre each settlement or beeline for the Isle of Faces?
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Peter Vaughan loving owned that role. When I read the books Aemon was just an old fart in the middle of nowhere to me, but that scene sold it to me and was dissapointed that they didn't give him more screen time, like his book interaction with Stannis (granted no magic sword in the show for conversation starter) On Alliser Thorne I loved this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_J3xtO-Yos Do you know what leadership means, Lord Snow? It means that the person in charge gets second-guessed by every clever little twat with a mouth. But if he starts second-guessing himself, that's the end. For him... for the clever little twats... for everyone. The whole Castle Black Raid episode made me like this character that I always disliked both in books and in series and would have loved if they had taken his character down another route instead of "nah, he was literal about hating him again the next day" leading to his death alongside the boy who potatoed. It would have been really cool if he was against Jon leading the Free Folk down South but at the same time be disgusted at the brothers who conspired against their commander and killed him, eventually leading to Jon passing down the Commander mantle to him and both departing in mutual respect but still hating each other's guts. S1Jaime was something beautiful to behold. Like I don't know if they originally did it on purpose or not, but upon reviewing the footage someone must have noticed that he was a living Prince Charming which just worked perfect for the kind of character he was at the time. However, I think that the cake to Best Cast goes to Sean Bean. Cause we have to admit it. While most of the people in this thread loved S1 for it's dialogue, S1 didn't have any action scenes of the kind that current seasons have which is the kind that attracts thousands of viewers. The average viewer gets bored of all the talking in S1 and is almost ready to give up on the series...AND THEN THEY KILL THE PROTAGONIST. Something TV series haven't done in forever, and most certainly not in the very first season. If Ned hadn't died in Book 1/Season 1, or had Ned's actor not been someone charismatic as Sean Bean, the show would have probably struggled to get signed up for more seasons. lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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lezard_valeth posted:Cause we have to admit it. While most of the people in this thread loved S1 for it's dialogue, S1 didn't have any action scenes of the kind that current seasons have which is the kind that attracts thousands of viewers. The average viewer gets bored of all the talking in S1 and is almost ready to give up on the series...AND THEN THEY KILL THE PROTAGONIST. Something TV series haven't done in forever, and most certainly not in the very first season. So all those people who watch from episode 1 until Ned died, they were just watching it the whole time going "Ugh, I loving hate this dumb show, but I'll keep watching it anyway?" People love the show for many reasons, to claim that the only reason people love it is "the protagonist died" is really stupid, particularly in a show with such a huge cast. There is no one "protagonist."
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