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But wasn't Bernie's tax ideas focused on making rich people and corporations pay their fair share?
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Sep 5, 2017 20:13
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Taintrunner posted:the democrats have always been the party of failing upwards I feel like that applies to all rich people. The current president ran his candidacy on being a good businessman, while in the middle of dealing with somehow brankrupting a casino.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:13
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zegermans posted:that book is going to earn millions of dollars. I will pirate that book, I refuse to give Her Majesty what little money I have remaining
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Sep 5, 2017 20:13
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zegermans posted:that book is going to earn millions of dollars. Anyone who buys this book instead of pirating a PDF is an enemy of the people.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:14
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But don't you see, Sanders was SO DAMAGING to her, in his fierce and awful and sexist attacks on her.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:14
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etalian posted:But wasn't Bernie's tax ideas focused on making rich people and corporations pay their fair share? rich people think they're the middle class zegermans posted:I feel like that applies to all rich people. The current president ran his candidacy on being a good businessman, while in the middle of dealing with somehow brankrupting a casino. it does, you're not wrong. hence the justification for violent redistribution of wealth
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 A mirrored response: Because Clinton couldn't defend stances like opposition to a $15 minimum wage and her campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs, Hillary Clinton had to project these factual statements into a smear campaign of lies and innuendo rather than deal with the truth behind them. When challenged to come up with a single position for which there is solid proof that Clinton's stance was chosen because of campaign contributions, Bernie Sanders couldn't come up with anything. Similarly, we know that Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, and other Republican senators never took a position because of Exxon dollars, right? Clinton's implicit alliance with SuperPACs which donate to politicians like these caused lasting damage, making it harder to unify progressives in the general election. Hillary Clinton is really bothered by the thought that it's possible a day doesn't go by where Bernie Sanders doesn't regret what he did. He's not a Democrat, and she thinks people that aren't willing to kiss the ring and stand by their party instead of policies have no place in politics. He's fundamentally right about the Democratic Party -- the party that brought us the atom bomb under Roosevelt, the Vietnam War under Johnson, a reduction of capital gains from as high as 98% to 28% under Carter, and means-testing and welfare reform under Clinton, and the Wall Street bailout under Obama. People are ashamed to call themselves Democrats, and the world would be a better place if people like Hillary Clinton could see why. galenanorth has issued a correction as of 20:18 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Sep 5, 2017 20:15
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etalian posted:But wasn't Bernie's tax ideas focused on making rich people and corporations pay their fair share? No you see a universal health care plan would not do anything to cut costs, therefore you would need to raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it Taintrunner posted:rich people think they're the middle class Also this
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Sep 5, 2017 20:15
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SKULL.GIF posted:I will pirate that book, I refuse to give Her Majesty what little money I have remaining I actually forgot you could do that with tablets and ebook readers.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:16
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etalian posted:But wasn't Bernie's tax ideas focused on making rich people and corporations pay their fair share? like, a UHC system would require a modest tax increase almost across the board, but the benefits of no one having to pay ridiculous insurance premiums more than make up the difference
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Sep 5, 2017 20:16
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ICE is ISIS
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Sep 5, 2017 20:18
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tax the rich at 99%
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Sep 5, 2017 20:19
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etalian posted:But wasn't Bernie's tax ideas focused on making rich people and corporations pay their fair share? no, see, that's an unattainable pipedream and/or would require raising taxes on the middle class the things that Hillary advocated for were literally the best things that were possible. anything better is just utopian lies
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Sep 5, 2017 20:19
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zegermans posted:like, a UHC system would require a modest tax increase almost across the board, but the benefits of no one having to pay ridiculous insurance premiums more than make up the difference Bernie actually said this himself at a town hall: "yeah, your taxes will go up a little, but thanks to not having to pay for your overpriced insurance plan you'll come out in the black." Why HRC is acting like this would be some primary-ending bombshell that mean ol' Obama wouldn't let her pull the trigger on I don't know.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:20
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zegermans posted:like, a UHC system would require a modest tax increase almost across the board, but the benefits of no one having to pay ridiculous insurance premiums more than make up the difference
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Sep 5, 2017 20:21
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if u make something free who pay for it 
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Sep 5, 2017 20:23
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"Bernie's plan would choke the life out of the middle class - I couldn't allow that. The death of the middle class is to be my and my husband's legacy, and I won't let anybody get in the way!"
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Sep 5, 2017 20:23
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SKULL.GIF posted:I will pirate that book, I refuse to give Her Majesty what little money I have remaining IMO autobiography is one thing, but the nominee of a major political party owes the American people this kind of explanation for free which makes me imagine her "free is unrealistic" talking points applied to the book itself
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Sep 5, 2017 20:32
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galenanorth posted:IMO autobiography is one thing, but the nominee of a major political party owes the American people this kind of explanation for free She charged $2000 a ticket at her book signing event.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:34
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zegermans posted:like, a UHC system would require a modest tax increase almost across the board, but the benefits of no one having to pay ridiculous insurance premiums more than make up the difference Tell that to you're abuela and her insane followers, the suck zone understands this.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:35
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loquacius posted:Bernie actually said this himself at a town hall: "yeah, your taxes will go up a little, but thanks to not having to pay for your overpriced insurance plan you'll come out in the black." Why HRC is acting like this would be some primary-ending bombshell that mean ol' Obama wouldn't let her pull the trigger on I don't know. Because she's a hopelessly out of touch millionaire who doesn't actually understand politics, OP.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:35
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Sep 5, 2017 20:36
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lol at actually reading that book instead of just laughing at the funny parts that get posted on twitter
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Sep 5, 2017 20:36
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if your covefefe lasts for more than four hours please consult your doctor immediately
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Sep 5, 2017 20:37
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loquacius posted:Bernie actually said this himself at a town hall: "yeah, your taxes will go up a little, but thanks to not having to pay for your overpriced insurance plan you'll come out in the black." Why HRC is acting like this would be some primary-ending bombshell that mean ol' Obama wouldn't let her pull the trigger on I don't know. Because Abuelita cannot fail, she can only be failed.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:41
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white sauce posted:Tell that to you're abuela and her insane followers, the suck zone understands this. can't the soundwaves will only bounce off the walls of this thread for some reason
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Sep 5, 2017 20:44
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haha remember when our president passed out mid-tweet and it became a lovable meme
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Sep 5, 2017 20:45
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Serf posted:murder the rich, exile their children, use their wealth and assets to subsidize a massive overhaul of all extant social and economic relations
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Sep 5, 2017 20:46
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i am down for this too.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:46
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I wish Hillary would just stay in the trash can of history where she belongs instead of rewriting it
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Sep 5, 2017 20:50
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RedSpider posted:I wish Hillary would just stay in the trash can of history where she belongs instead of rewriting it I like how prosperity under Clinton was actually kicking the can due to things like helped the GOP execute their finance sector deregulation program.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:52
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etalian posted:She charged $2000 a ticket at her book signing event. which seems like an awfully low rate for her
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Sep 5, 2017 20:56
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The Muppets On PCP posted:which seems like an awfully low rate for her It's Bernie's fault she got the low rate.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:57
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etalian posted:It's Bernie's fault she got the low rate. Lmao
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Sep 5, 2017 20:58
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I don't understand the criticism. Plenty of politicians charge for their book signing events. Why can't Hillary? Is it because she is a woman?
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Sep 5, 2017 21:00
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it wasn't long ago when it took 100 grand just to be in the same the room with her 2 large is just sad
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Sep 5, 2017 21:00
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punk rebel ecks posted:I don't understand the criticism. Plenty of politicians charge for their book signing events. Why can't Hillary? Is it because she is a woman? source your quotes
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Sep 5, 2017 21:01
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punk rebel ecks posted:I don't understand the criticism. Plenty of politicians charge for their book signing events. Why can't Hillary? Is it because she is a woman? nah that's the reason people were mad at obama's post-presidency fundraising
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Is JeffersonClay Hillary's ghostwriter for this book?
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