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Aliens is a fine movie, and it's perfectly normal for people to prefer it over the original, but from a pure filmmaking perspective Alien trounces over it in every respect. Better cinematography, better script, better acting, better sound, etc. I thought here in CineD we appreciated things like that. Edit: IIRC, James Cameron agrees with me.
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Casimir Radon posted:Travolta's career died right about that time. Battlefield Earth was the year before. I saw that film in theatres. On a date. In high school. Even my date thought the scene with 1000 year old F15s was dumb. We got a weird scratcher from the movie, probably some free Scientology brainwashing poo poo.
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Sep 20, 2017 19:11
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Casimir Radon posted:Travolta's career died right about that time. Battlefield Earth was the year before. That was like the third time his career died, and it had only been resurrected with Pulp Fiction. He went from that to Michael and Phenomenon, which formed a nice slope down to Battlefield Earth.
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Sep 20, 2017 19:12
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FilthyImp posted:I saw that film in theatres.
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FilthyImp posted:John Goodman had the best trajectory. He's Been Working since the show and has had a good few years recently (from being on SNL regularly to 10 Cloverfield Lane and whatnot). I think career wise George Clooney has them all beat, although he was only in season 1 I think.
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Baron von Eevl posted:That was like the third time his career died, and it had only been resurrected with Pulp Fiction. He went from that to Michael and Phenomenon, which formed a nice slope down to Battlefield Earth. That's what I love about Travolta, his career was resurrected by Pulp Fiction and he absolutely jumped in head first making Nora Ephron movies. When he thought he was back he REALLY thought he was back.
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FilthyImp posted:I saw that film in theatres. In 1999, so the second half of my freshman year in high school, this girl who I had had the biggest crush on since the first day of school asked if I wanted to go out to a movie sometime. We picked Wing Commander. 
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I saw Battlefield Earth in theaters early late at night with friends because one worked for the theater and they check the films before they show them so hilarious free movie huzzah! Ma.K will be the latest live-action anime to be in development hell at WB quote:Fresh from the record-breaking box-office haul of horror-thriller It, producer Roy Lee is now setting his sights on giant robots and two-legged tanks. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/mak-movie-it-producer-adapt-sci-fi-epic-warner-bros-1041130
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MonsieurChoc posted:Aliens is a fine movie, and it's perfectly normal for people to prefer it over the original, but from a pure filmmaking perspective Alien trounces over it in every respect. Better cinematography, better script, better acting, better sound, etc. There have been plenty of posts about the strength of Aliens's cinematography, editing, sound work and so-on in this subforum alone, let alone elsewhere. Trying to frame it as "I thought CinD agreed with me!!" is dumb. It's also not a 'contest' as they are aiming for different things and both can be well made without there being an ~objective winner~
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Tars Tarkas posted:I saw Battlefield Earth in theaters early late at night with friends because one worked for the theater and they check the films before they show them so hilarious free movie huzzah! Oh gently caress, I didn't recognize this for a bit but that's loving Maschinen Krieger! I love that series.
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Timby posted:In 1999, so the second half of my freshman year in high school, this girl who I had had the biggest crush on since the first day of school asked if I wanted to go out to a movie sometime. A keeper
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I made the mistake of seeing Aliens long after roughly half the film's scenes had become established and predictable action sci-fi tropes elsewhere and it seriously dampened my enjoyment of it. I'm sure I would have liked it much more if I caught it new. v v
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Tars Tarkas posted:The American Akira movie is still walking the Earth, cursed to never die, and is now threatening to devour Taika Waititi, hopefully he will escape like the others Why do people keep forgetting that there's already an american Akira re-make and it ruled? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsO6ZnUZI0g
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well why not posted:It's amazing how James Cameron, academy award winning director and visionary/explorer still gets into beefs with other directors. He just seems like an incredibly petty person. See also the recent interview Josh Brolin gave where he says that Cameron blew up at him when he (Brolin) turned down a role in the Avatar sequels.
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ImpAtom posted:There have been plenty of posts about the strength of Aliens's cinematography, editing, sound work and so-on in this subforum alone, let alone elsewhere. Trying to frame it as "I thought CinD agreed with me!!" is dumb. It's also not a 'contest' as they are aiming for different things and both can be well made without there being an ~objective winner~ You're right, but in this case Alien is clearly superior in the craft department than Aliens.  Edit: I mean, Aliens is good, I don't want people to think I hate Aliens. Alien is just goddamn amazing, especially with regards to moviemaking. MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Sep 20, 2017 |
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Sep 20, 2017 21:18
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muscles like this! posted:He just seems like an incredibly petty person. See also the recent interview Josh Brolin gave where he says that Cameron blew up at him when he (Brolin) turned down a role in the Avatar sequels. There are never going to be any Avatar sequels.
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MonsieurChoc posted:You're right, but in this case Alien is clearly superior in the craft department than Aliens. 
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Is Avatar 2/3/4/5 ever going to come out? Are they even in production yet? Is James Cameron losing his mind?
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They start "filming" next week http://screenrant.com/avatar-2-filming-start/
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is Avatar 2/3/4/5 ever going to come out? Are they even in production yet? Is James Cameron losing his mind? Yes.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is Avatar 2/3/4/5 ever going to come out? Are they even in production yet? Is James Cameron losing his mind? I just want my Abyss bluray so I can buy the drat movie.
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muscles like this! posted:He just seems like an incredibly petty person. See also the recent interview Josh Brolin gave where he says that Cameron blew up at him when he (Brolin) turned down a role in the Avatar sequels. That doesnt necessarily mean he's wrong about WW not being very feminist. Just because a woman made it doesnt say much about the content (not many people argue Punisher War Zone is feminist), plus fox news has plenty of sellout women willing to say anything. But 'feminist' doesnt have a set in stone definition either. Is there anything more feminist in WW than in Aliens? Both have lead women going to war.
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I'll go see Linda Hamilton in another Cameron Terminator movie, sure. I imagine Arnold will be a villain again in this one? He's only been a bad guy in like two of his six appearances in a role where he was originally the bad guy.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Aliens is very good for being the fourth-best movie in the franchise. there's a reason everyone else lols at this stupid subforum. alien and aliens are equally good. this is objective fact sorry brokebrains.
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Electromax posted:I'll go see Linda Hamilton in another Cameron Terminator movie, sure. I imagine Arnold will be a villain again in this one? He's only been a bad guy in like two of his six appearances in a role where he was originally the bad guy. 2.5 if you count T3. He murders John in the absolute dumbest thing ever from the franchise.
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I rooted for The Hurt Locker to win the Oscar that year. Not because it's at all good, but because I hated Avatar more and was sick of hearing about how revolutionary it was. Now it's almost been forgotten.
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Casimir Radon posted:I rooted for The Hurt Locker to win the Oscar that year. Not because it's at all good, but because I hated Avatar more and was sick of hearing about how revolutionary it was. Now it's almost been forgotten. Avatar was incredible to see in the big screen with the glasses and all that, it was once of the best movie experiences in my life. I have no desire at all to see the sequel.
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The Hurt Locker was good, military worship aside
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ALFbrot posted:Are you referring to anyone other than John Goodman? Laurie Metcalf literally just won a Tony for Best Actress in a Play.
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Speaking of Avatar, can anyone tell me why they made a theme park for it? I just don't know a single person who really was that engrossed into the avatar "universe" to care enough about it to even go to a theme park, much less 9 years later. Hell, I cant even remember a single name of any of the characters.
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Avatar was a phenomenon when it came out, to the point where I remember national TV news talking about people who became depressed and suicidal because they knew they could never live in the world of the Na'vi. There's also a guy out there who became famous because he covered himself head to toe in blue Avatar tattoos. I can only assume they hope that popularity will be rekindled with the sequels, and their Avatar theme park will make huge sums of money.
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Kanish posted:Speaking of Avatar, can anyone tell me why they made a theme park for it? I just don't know a single person who really was that engrossed into the avatar "universe" to care enough about it to even go to a theme park, much less 9 years later. Hell, I cant even remember a single name of any of the characters. It's Disney, and even if it doesn't draw additional people to that park, it will let them turn Animal Kingdom from a "half day park" to one that keeps people there until 9pm, greatly increasing the resort's carrying capacity. People will go because it's Disney. Plus, there's supposed to be 4 more movies, all directed by James Cameron, and he's got a pretty solid track record. It's kind of weird Disney invested in an IP they don't own, though. Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Vincent posted:Why do people keep forgetting that there's already an american Akira re-make and it ruled? I think you mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZFcosBTaQ
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Sarah Gilbert is also in a daily talk show. So the only actors not working from Roseanne are Roseanne herself and the original Becky.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:The Hurt Locker was good, military worship aside 
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the point of hurt locker is unrealistic sniper duels
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Kanish posted:Speaking of Avatar, can anyone tell me why they made a theme park for it? I just don't know a single person who really was that engrossed into the avatar "universe" to care enough about it to even go to a theme park, much less 9 years later. Hell, I cant even remember a single name of any of the characters. Disney approached Cameron about making an Avatar theme park only a year and a half or so after Avatar came out, at a time when hype for it was still big, and more importantly, at a time when the sequels were supposed to start coming out in 2015. So if everything was on track, the park would be opening in time to cash in on the huge Avatar Mania of Avatar 2-5. Also of note, this was a year before Disney bought Lucasfilm and decided they would start churning out their own annual space fantasy series. I'm sure if they had gotten Lucasfilm first they never would have bothered with Avatar World.
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Please, why would Disney build a Star Wars park? That is stupid. They are obviously going to build an orbiting moon.
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