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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

boner confessor posted:

possibly, but it's feasible - the 70's were an enormously slutty decade

The baby boomers lived in a time when the average man could be a chad without trying, have dozens of friends and hundreds of sexual partners, drop out of highschool and still get an union job that paid well enough to raise a family on.

Meanwhile a college graduate today can work 40+ hours a week and still live at home with his mom, go months without having any social interactions and have given up on dating years ago. Just as a, uh, made up example.

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OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

theflyingorc posted:

The word isn't even in the book itself, actually, I just checked. It derives from some specific interpretations of the Adam and Eve story, but it's not in there.

Well yes, pretty sure "helpmeet" is not a word in Ancient Hebrew.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

now, yeah.

70's were a wild time.

I get the disbelief but the folks I've talked to at least believe they're telling the truth. They might be mistaken or mis-counting but they aren't lying.

Yeah people in the right places and into the right party scenes basically lived a decade long orgy. The gay scene is more well known as being crazy - Gaëtan Dugas, who's life is relatively well documented as he was suspected to be HIV patient 0, estimated he had on the order of 2500 partners in the 70s.

I mean think about it - birth control made pregnancy not a worry and every STD of concern was curable (Herpes wasn't considered an STD at the time). Alcohol and drugs were easy to get in clubs. Of course people into sex hosed like rabbits.

Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 10, 2017

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Mantis42 posted:

Meanwhile a college graduate today can work 40+ hours a week and still live at home with his mom, go months without having any social interactions and have given up on dating years ago. Just as a, uh, made up example.

lol yeah it owned living with my parents while i saved up for a down payment and going on dates and when women would ask if i had roommates i'd go "uhhhh yeah i live with an older couple"

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

i am the bird posted:

If you're a conservative Christian using the word helpmeet, the context is that a women is a man's domestic helper and has little to no power outside the home or within the family. Regardless of what the word means literally, it's a patriarchal term in those circles; and, frankly, I can't remember ever hearing the word outside of that realm. Source: I spent 18 years in this world.

It came up in a liberal Christian-and-Christian-adjacent bible study I occasionally attend. Specifically, from a feminist evangelical lady who has a complicated relationship with the Old Testament. :v:

In practical terms, yes, that's what it's going to mean by just about anyone who uses it. I'm just saying it, like most conservative evangelical theology, is shallow garbage theology.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

The rate of premarital sex in America have not changed at all since the 1950s. Here are stats and data with proof.

Like most things, what people might be tempted to attribute to culture and ideology ("the 70s were sluttier") is actually a result of pure hard materialism. The moment automobiles became widely available to Americans, premarital sex skyrocketed and has remained there ever since.

If widely-available private transportation somehow up and vanished, premarital sex rates would go back down.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

theflyingorc posted:

The word isn't even in the book itself, actually, I just checked. It derives from some specific interpretations of the Adam and Eve story, but it's not in there.

Look, buddy, it's in* the KJV translation, God's Own True Language. :colbert:

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Shifty Pony posted:

Yeah people in the right places and into the right party scenes basically lived a decade long orgy. The gay scene is more well known as being crazy - Gaëtan Dugas, who's life is relatively well documented as he was suspected to be HIV patient 0, estimated he had on the order of 2500 partners in the 70s.

I mean think about it - birth control made pregnancy not a worry and every single STD was curable (Herpes wasn't considered an STD at the time). Alcohol and drugs were easy to get in clubs. Of course people into sex hosed like rabbits.

also the golden age of cocaine

https://nextshark.com/cocaine-ads-70s-reddit/







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FULNOJWe1c

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Yeah, that's fair. Even so though it illustrates the scale of the fuckin' goin on.

I have no problem believing that many of them had easily 2-300 partners, it's just...seriously, pick your favorite pornstar and look at how many movies they've made. For the really prolific ones it's usually like 500, and many of those were with the same people.

Also most people will occasionally have sex with a person they particularly like having sex with and have sex with that person more than once. Crazy I know.

i am the bird posted:

If you're a conservative Christian using the word helpmeet, the context is that a women is a man's domestic helper and has little to no power outside the home or within the family. Regardless of what the word means literally, it's a patriarchal term in those circles; and, frankly, I can't remember ever hearing the word outside of that realm. Source: I spent 18 years in this world.
Yyyyyup. It's super patriarchal.


OddObserver posted:

Well yes, pretty sure "helpmeet" is not a word in Ancient Hebrew.
Thanks friend, but I don't think the actual word is in any English translation was my point. I only checked NIV and KJV directly, though.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

GreyjoyBastard posted:

It came up in a liberal Christian-and-Christian-adjacent bible study I occasionally attend. Specifically, from a feminist evangelical lady who has a complicated relationship with the Old Testament. :v:

In practical terms, yes, that's what it's going to mean by just about anyone who uses it. I'm just saying it, like most conservative evangelical theology, is shallow garbage theology.

Ha! Every liberal or progressive Christian I meet just kind of ignores the OT as anything but a 'history' because what else can you really do?

Oh, for sure. I don't mean to condemn all Christians by it. I just want to make sure we're not giving conservatives the benefit of the doubt on literal descriptions of 'partner' or whatever when that's definitely not what they're implying.

dbukalski
Nov 9, 2017

YOSPOS

Wistful of Dollars posted:

I'd like to think some are good people. I have no loving idea who or where they are but I'd like to hope they're out there. :ohdear:

they are out there but they are fleeing the party. the compaction cycle continues

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

the black husserl posted:

The rate of premarital sex in America have not changed at all since the 1950s. Here are stats and data with proof.

Like most things, what people might be tempted to attribute to culture and ideology ("the 70s were sluttier") is actually a result of pure hard materialism. The moment automobiles became widely available to Americans, premarital sex skyrocketed and has remained there ever since.

If widely-available private transportation somehow up and vanished, premarital sex rates would go back down.

this study is about the number of people who have had premarital sex, it doesn't talk about the frequency of premarital sex or number of partners as the original goon asserted

theflyingorc posted:

I have no problem believing that many of them had easily 2-300 partners, it's just...seriously, pick your favorite pornstar and look at how many movies they've made. For the really prolific ones it's usually like 500, and many of those were with the same people.

there's way more people in a local hookup scene than there are professional porn stars, though. not a good example. like because being a male porn performer is, uh, demanding on the body, there's really only a handful of them - far fewer compared to female performers

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

the black husserl posted:

If widely-available private transportation somehow up and vanished, premarital sex rates would go back down.
don't speak so loud, Focus on the Family will hear you

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/TheDemCoalition/status/929055959464464384?s=17

$$$$

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

theflyingorc posted:


Yyyyyup. It's super patriarchal.

Thanks friend, but I don't think the actual word is in any English translation was my point. I only checked NIV and KJV directly, though.

KJV Genesis 2:18: And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

okay I guess technically it's two words, may as well own up to that while I'm fishmeching about biblical language

i am the bird posted:

Ha! Every liberal or progressive Christian I meet just kind of ignores the OT as anything but a 'history' because what else can you really do?

Oh, for sure. I don't mean to condemn all Christians by it. I just want to make sure we're not giving conservatives the benefit of the doubt on literal descriptions of 'partner' or whatever when that's definitely not what they're implying.

If anything the interesting etymology here makes me angrier at conservative evangelicals. Motherfuckers, if you're going to structure everything around the Bible, at least have some decent scholarship around your own loving boooooook :argh:

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

GreyjoyBastard posted:

KJV Genesis 2:18: And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

okay I guess technically it's two words, may as well own up to that while I'm fishmeching about biblical language

search engines failed me

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


CEO of Twitter is a MAGA Chud, somehow people are Okay With This

https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/929070660000743425

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the black husserl posted:

If widely-available private transportation somehow up and vanished, premarital sex rates would go back down.

why we need to invest in public transit.

the fucks must flow.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

theflyingorc posted:

Nobody has that kinda success level unless they're extremely rich or extremely famous. I don't care how good looking you are lol

Groovelord Neato posted:

i never understand these numbers because i haven't even met that many people i'd want to gently caress.
Uh, some college kids gently caress like mad, my dudes. Even a hopeless dorknob like yours truly got some action fairly often. Most young dudes and ladies are open to something if you're an OK fellow. ;)

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
pre-marital sex is awesome imo

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy

Robot Hobo posted:

Serious question for the non-American goons, because I'd like an outsider perspective.

Our representatives' votes and positions are things that can be straight-up purchased by the wealthy and corporations. That used to be sort of an obvious open secret, but now they've just stopped bothering even pretending otherwise.

That's insane, right? Like, that's not something people just accept as the standard elsewhere, is it?

A bit late, but your system is absolutely NOT normal. Words alone can't quite express how hosed it is.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Wark Say posted:

Uh, some college kids gently caress like mad, my dudes. Even a hopeless dorknob like yours truly got some action fairly often. Most young dudes and ladies are open to something if you're an OK fellow. ;)

most of us went to college.

you didn't meet 2000 people you wanted to gently caress in college unless your standards are so low only a borehole could reach em.

Kale
May 14, 2010


For about a couple days after he wrote one anti-Trump story I thought he was a standout at CNN, now I see it's just because he always writes sensationalized fear mongering blowhard tier crap that'd feel more in place on Fox News or a Gawker (he has their headline language spot on a lot of the time) website, but isn't an out and out partisan hack so it came across as journalism all of once. Seriously any time there's a narrative he has to capitalize on it somehow and try to demoralize somebody with his stories, I don't get it as any other thing other than he's trying to bring the national mood down or jerk people around as to where to put their faith and values.

I don't think he's scum though, just a trash click bait column writer that almost always goes for the low hanging fruit article fodder.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

It's not three different organizations that have pulled funding, it's three different sources that reported on the same one and got posted here separately (and repetitively)

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


cillizza rules because he pretends the ratio is some "lefty twitter" thing because he just gets owned constantly.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

theflyingorc posted:

The word isn't even in the book itself, actually, I just checked. It derives from some specific interpretations of the Adam and Eve story, but it's not in there.

It's two separate words in the Bible, but always together, and always in the context of a woman as subservient to a man.

EDIT: Right there in Genesis 2:18, in the versions of the Bible that are most often used by rear end in a top hat sub-cults (King James and other ones like it).

dbukalski
Nov 9, 2017

YOSPOS

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Me too, me too. Kentucky.

its depressing. we exist in completely separate realities.

pour one out for the homies

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Groovelord Neato posted:

cillizza rules because he pretends the ratio is some "lefty twitter" thing because he just gets owned constantly.

Also amusing was when he did an AMA on Reddit which went so predictably badly that other journalists popped in to ask why he ever thought doing so was a good idea

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Mantis42 posted:

The baby boomers lived in a time when the average man could be a chad without trying, have dozens of friends and hundreds of sexual partners, drop out of highschool and still get an union job that paid well enough to raise a family on.

Meanwhile a college graduate today can work 40+ hours a week and still live at home with his mom, go months without having any social interactions and have given up on dating years ago. Just as a, uh, made up example.

Closing of /r/incel hitting hard

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Pollyanna posted:

CEO of Twitter is a MAGA Chud, somehow people are Okay With This

https://twitter.com/UnburntWitch/status/929070660000743425

What the gently caress, Jack? You follow Steven Pinker?

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Him refusing to do anything about twitter nazis makes a whooooooole lot of sense.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Not sure why anyone would be surprised by Jack being a POS, most of his tech ilk are progressives right until a minority inconveniences them in any way. The very model of a bar femenist.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
twitter was founded on a radical free speech philosophy because you have to be a stemlord white guy to think that being able to say absolutely anything to anyone at anytime would have more positive than negative consequences

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


boner confessor posted:

twitter was founded on a radical free speech philosophy because you have to be a stemlord white guy to think that being able to say absolutely anything to anyone at anytime would have more positive than negative consequences

it's not radical free speech philosophy when you ban people calling out nazis and refuse to ban the nazis

that's just nazism

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

boner confessor posted:

twitter was founded on a radical free speech philosophy because you have to be a stemlord white guy to think that being able to say absolutely anything to anyone at anytime would have more positive than negative consequences

lol. nice.

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

boner confessor posted:

twitter was founded on a radical free speech philosophy because you have to be a stemlord white guy to think that being able to say absolutely anything to anyone at anytime would have more positive than negative consequences

Stemlord? What is a stemlord?

Da Mott Man
Aug 3, 2012


boner confessor posted:

twitter was founded on a radical free speech philosophy because you have to be a stemlord white guy to think that being able to say absolutely anything to anyone at anytime would have more positive than negative consequences

Problem is that twitter isn't even free speech, because it seems like people get randomly banned for almost nothing (Like Lowtax) and others like Gorillia Semen Drinker get to harass, threaten, and bully with no consequences.

Twitter is run by evil gerbils.

Phlag
Nov 2, 2000

We make a special trip just for you, same low price.


Right-wing wackos are now claiming that they were offered $1,000 to lie about being sexually assaulted by Roy Moore. :rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/MikeTokes/status/929066060854149120

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


hmm yeah you're only three pages late

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Closing of /r/incel hitting hard

What’s a chad

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