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WampaLord posted:"Dewey defeats Truman" had nothing on Hillary's hubris. That headline was based on more sound research then Hillary's grift campaign, lol.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:That headline was based on more sound research then Hillary's grift campaign, lol. Yea that was more an indictment of the computer modeling and not Dewey's actual campaign lmao
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Zhulik posted:And more importantly, how the gently caress does your thought process immediately go to "we need to stop russia from photoshopping a swastika onto obama's forehead and posting the picture online to save our democracy" and not to "holy poo poo how did we end up with a country full of people whose opinions can be swayed by a rage comic of yao ming voting for the R candidate, this needs to be fixed asap". I'd hazard to guess that we have a country full of people whose opinions can be swayed by a rage comic of yao ming voting for the R candidate to be the why.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Less then 10 people since 1986 have been killed by "automatic weapons." Why the gently caress do idiots waste time with that boogy man. yes because banning guns works.
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FuriousxGeorge posted:yes because banning guns works. banning guns, siezing guns, and melting them down works. it works all around the world. america is not a special snowflake
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:A nigh-inexhaustible war chest, her pick of the supposed cream of the crop of campaign advisors and experts in matters of strategy, and she couldn't overcome a six figgy Facebook ad buy. I know it's hip to hate on woman politicians itt, but that's really disingenuous, even by suck zone standards Here are some highlights from what the indictment says about a group of Russians in a time period from 2014: * Posed as Americans, and opened financial accounts in their name * Spent thousands of dollars a month buying political advertising * Purchased US server space in an effort to hide their Russian affiliation * Organised and promoted political rallies within the United States * Posted political messages on social media accounts that impersonated real US citizens * Promoted information that disparaged Hillary Clinton * Received money from clients to post on US social media sites * Created themed groups on social media on hot-button issues, particularly on Facebook and Instagram * Operated with a monthly budget of as much as $1.25m (£890,000) * Financed the building of a cage large enough to hold an actress portraying Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform Here's the indictment proper for those interested: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download Man Musk has issued a correction as of 23:25 on Feb 16, 2018 |
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Man Musk posted:I know it's hip to hate on woman politicians itt, but that's really disingenuous, even by suck zone standards they got paid to shitpost and had enough funding to build some stage props?????
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Mister Fister posted:Remember when Hillary had no personality and then her consultants had an interview with (i think the NYT) where they said they were working on it and were going to unveil her new personality or something like that? what was probably most damaging to her campaign was being a right wing candidate that made people stay home after they'd already lost faith in the democrats due to 8 years of failure
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Feb 16, 2018 23:28
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Man Musk posted:I know it's hip to hate on woman politicians itt, but that's really disingenuous, even by suck zone standards drat, a whole 15 million dollars a year budget and some facebook ads. they sound really significant
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someone do a rundown comparison of russia's influence peddling in the us with the israeli lobby
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SKULL.GIF posted:belief in the sanctity of an election is extremely important to a functioning democracy (which, admittedly, the usa has not been for some time now)
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They got to facebook AND instagram? gently caress
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jBrereton posted:A country that does not instantly fire the entire congress all at once when you refuse to fund the government is not a functioning democracy imo, it is a zombie constitutional state. I wish we'd just bite the bullet and move to a parliamentary system or something no-confidence motions and elections should be a regular thing
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tekz posted:someone do a rundown comparison of russia's influence peddling in the us with the israeli lobby Sure. Israel as far as we know isn't involved in identity theft, visa fraud, and money laundering to conduct its operations. The strategic goal keep in mind was to sow discord and distrust in institutions, including and not limited to the 2016 election. When Israel runs clandestine operations with the intent to destroy the US we can revisit this discussion.
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Man Musk posted:I know it's hip to hate on woman politicians itt Just a bunch of woman hating Bernie Bros.
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tekz posted:someone do a rundown comparison of russia's influence peddling in the us with the israeli lobby aipac 2014: Revenue (2014) $77,709,827[2] Expenses (2014) $69,267,598[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee
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Man Musk posted:Sure. Israel as far as we know isn't involved in identity theft, visa fraud, and money laundering to conduct its operations. lol if you sincerely believe this the ethnostate currently engaged in a slow campaign of genocide in which they corral an ethnic Other and slowly take away their land and starve them of resources would never do anything underhanded to guarantee continued backing by the only country in the world that’s on their side
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Thinking about how I'd have full trust in our institutions if it wasn't for thos russians
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Man Musk posted:Sure. Israel as far as we know isn't involved in identity theft, visa fraud, and money laundering to conduct its operations. Why won't you get over that Buff Bernie Sanders comic Russia commissioned, God.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:47
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Expenses (2014) nice
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jBrereton posted:A country that does not instantly fire the entire congress all at once when you refuse to fund the government is not a functioning democracy imo, it is a zombie constitutional state.
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Feb 16, 2018 23:49
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Man Musk posted:Sure. Israel as far as we know isn't involved in identity theft, visa fraud, and money laundering to conduct its operations. the difference between israel and russia is that the former is a far more reprehensible country and its influence on american politicians has been legitimized. if it wasnt for those drat russians i bet people would have so much more trust in institutions that deserve that trust
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Ah yeah that's the good stuff https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/964620756750688257 https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/964570160257478656 https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/964566420779687937
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40 years of Yuri from Red Alert 2 using mind rays on democrats to make them complete and utter poo poo wasn't enough to shatter my trust in our sacred institutions, but now that Putin (Yuri in disguise???) paid someone to sit in a cage and pretend to be hillary I'm starting to think that our entire government is a loving scam.
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Zhulik posted:Thinking about how I'd have full trust in our institutions if it wasn't for thos russians
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russia is now the only force that sought to defeat hillary clinton and the republican party had no role in the election
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Man Musk posted:* Financed the building of a cage large enough to hold an actress portraying Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform we will solve America's political malaise by *rolls 2d10* banning foreigners from countries we don't like this week from spending $500 on rebar at home depot here's a thought experiment for you, I just typed three characters into my profile and now I'm gonna say: "Shinzo Abe is a pre-fascist shithead who will drag us into war in Korea, and the DPJ is even more feckless opposition than their namesake!" I have now made paid speech (that  back in 2003), ie advertisement, falsely posing as Japanese, wading into hot-button political issues and disparaging a major politician while attempting to discredit the political mainstream as a whole and increase political instability in order to promote the electoral fortunes of radical parties.Sadly ● is both dead and unnecessary these days, or I could even crosspost it on 2ch and have paid money specifically to do so on a domestic (from their perspective) social media platform. There are major problems with paid political speech and voter manipulation in the US. There are major problems with Trump's corruption. Laying both of them at the feet of small-beer Facebook ad buys performed by nebulous "enemy" foreign nationals, with the implication that the problem is the purely whim-based "enemy" part, is a deliberate disinformation campaign to whitewash both while shoring up imperialist foreign policy.
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Interesting... Reading the indictment, and the Russians paid for and organized pro-Trump rallies in New York, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Florida, which were then picked up and reported on by US media Imagine if the Democrats had a foreign actor organizing rallies for them in purple states
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Man Musk posted:Interesting... lol imagine if the democrats had democrats organizing rallies for them in purple states
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Man Musk posted:I know it's hip to hate on woman politicians itt, but that's really disingenuous, even by suck zone standards lol
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Man Musk posted:Imagine if the Democrats had a foreign actor organizing rallies for them in purple states  SOROS! lobby.
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Man Musk posted:* Financed the building of a cage large enough to hold an actress portraying Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform 
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Man Musk posted:Interesting... interdasting...........
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steinrokkan posted:Why won't you get over that Buff Bernie Sanders comic Russia commissioned, God. What are you talking about ?? Don't project onto me pls...it robs me of agency Mandoric posted:we will solve America's political malaise by That's just the point - it's more than ad buys. I don't understand why posters itt are so defensive about Russia, anyway. Russia is run by a government that has more in common with Southern Baptists than the mythologized Soviet Union. Zoran posted:lol if you sincerely believe this Whataboutism is how the United Russia Party solidified its hold on power... It's entirely possible for there to be more than 1 bad actor in the world. It's just that Bobby Three Sticks isn't investigating the Mossad stealing social security numbers to set up PayPal accounts today.
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Man Musk posted:What are you talking about ?? Behold, the evil Russian propaganda in its full unrelenting power: 
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Man Musk posted:I don't understand why posters itt are so defensive about Russia, anyway. Russia is run by a government that has more in common with Southern Baptists than the mythologized Soviet Union. I don't think anyone itt likes Putin and I think the vast majority of people think this. anime was right posted:agreedo The defensiveness comes from that fact that all of the terrible establishment Dem Hillary diehards use the Russia thing to totally shield Hillary from any blame for her failures and also use it to baselessly slime Bernie.
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It was the Russians that made us lose; ignore the evidence that the effect of fake news was likely marginal (i.e. Allcott & Gentzkow, 2017). We don't need to change. Our message of decorously and incrementally plugging the hole rapidly sinking the ship is fine. Everything is fine. Continue to donate to our political organization so that a cadre of consultants and hangers on can collect six figure salaries and we can keep doing the business of [insert major industry here].
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