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I'd be well up for this but being a Eurogoon makes it really hard to get good times to do matches in my experience. I'll keep an eye on it and see how many Euro's signup, might be do able.
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Kanos posted:Stuff like the initiative phase system and the simplification of heat and what it does to the mech are both really good ideas that I could see translating to a tabletop game very well, yeah. Also fixing how ammo explosions work, AC2s and 5's not being awful and going by the trailer screengrabs of Double Heat Sinks, they look like a much better implementation that doesn't completely break the game in half.
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Aramoro posted:I'd be well up for this but being a Eurogoon makes it really hard to get good times to do matches in my experience. I'll keep an eye on it and see how many Euro's signup, might be do able. I’d say go for it, but it looks to me like the sheet is locked to view only right now. Also remember to sign out of Google or use an incognito window unless you want people to see your really-real name.
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Phrosphor posted:
Sign me up, EST and PMs.
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DatonKallandor posted:Also fixing how ammo explosions work, AC2s and 5's not being awful and going by the trailer screengrabs of Double Heat Sinks, they look like a much better implementation that doesn't completely break the game in half. What stuff DID break the game in half? I was never any good at tabletop and lost nearly every time I played.
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DatonKallandor posted:Also fixing how ammo explosions work, AC2s and 5's not being awful and going by the trailer screengrabs of Double Heat Sinks, they look like a much better implementation that doesn't completely break the game in half. In regards to your spoilered text, what exactly has been changed about them?
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Comstar posted:What stuff DID break the game in half? I was never any good at tabletop and lost nearly every time I played. Double Heat Sinks - Completely hosed the heat curve making it possible to remain heat neutral with nearly anything, allowing 'Mechs to devote more weight to weapons which made for faster kills and more dice rolling (which can gently caress with new players because there's more to keep tabs on) Clan Large Pulse Lasers - Pulse lasers were ok (I'd argue they're all too good with a -2 bonus to-hit) but the Clan Large Pulse Laser's massive range makes it king of Pulse Laser mountain, especially since it's 1-1 heat efficient. It's got better range than an Inner Sphere PPC, is easier to hit with, hits just as hard, and has the same heat. Completely broken. Clan LRM-20 - An LRM with no minimum range and half the weight, so you can bring two launchers where an Inner Sphere 'Mech can only bring one. I'm not going to call out the Clan ER PPC, it's honestly fine. An cER PPC and enough heat sinks to keep it heat neutral is 14 tons while a Clan Gauss Rifle and 2 tons of ammo is... also 14 tons. Unless you're only buying one ER PPC in which case your 'Mech's engine double heat sinks already more than cover the cost--but this is the big problem with double heat sinks, the cER PPC just exploits it better than most other weapons. Later equipment gets pretty incredibly good too, but we're talking C3i, Nova CEWS, and iATMs, the (arguably all of them but definitely at least the) latter two were designed to be broken on purpose to make a specific faction that was intended to get wiped out more overtly dangerous.
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^^I would call out the clan ERPPC just because it's an ammoless long range headcapper and the game really didn't need more of those. I love that HBS took care to make sure that one-shot headloss is extremely rare, to the point where the only thing that can do it without a counter is an AC20 with breaching shot. Nothing but the AC20 has the damage to do it, and if you are Braced not even the AC20 can. I'd also be really surprised if all the ER and Clan weapons (if HBS ever makes a game with them) keep their no minimum range stuff, because that's just so weird. evilmiera posted:In regards to your spoilered text, what exactly has been changed about them? Going by the trailers, you can mix them with regular heatsinks so they probably don't upgrade the built in default sinking capacity (since this is what makes them so ridiculous this is would be a huge change), they're 3 slots for 1 ton vvvI'm spoilering them because they're LosTech, so probably supposed to be a surprise DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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I don't think you need to spoiler item stats.
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so what are the good builds are all flamer terror units good all machine gun gaza strip specials good?
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Double heat sinks just seem so poorly thought out. You shouldn't have something in your game design which is flatout better than something else where the only difference is cost really. The clan pulses and LRMs are the same really, they're just unequivocally better but cost more. All it means is winners keep winning more, which might make sense fluffwise but is poor game design.
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Pirate Radar posted:I’d say go for it, but it looks to me like the sheet is locked to view only right now. I'm not sure why it went to read-only but it should be editable again.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Later equipment gets pretty incredibly good too, but we're talking C3i, Nova CEWS, and iATMs, the (arguably all of them but definitely at least the) latter two were designed to be broken on purpose to make a specific faction that was intended to get wiped out more overtly dangerous. The Society really did have the coolest toys. The Osteon Prime is insane
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Ramadu posted:so what are the good builds There are very few Mechs that can mount large amounts of these, but the ones that can are loving awesome yes.
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SpaceDrake posted:Also, the BT thread in Trad fell into archives a while back. This would be a great time for someone to make a new one. (Not me - I made the last one and proved I couldn't effectively keep it maintained.) PoptartsNinja posted:I'm not going to call out the Clan ER PPC, it's honestly fine. An cER PPC and enough heat sinks to keep it heat neutral is 14 tons while a Clan Gauss Rifle and 2 tons of ammo is... also 14 tons. Unless you're only buying one ER PPC in which case your 'Mech's engine double heat sinks already more than cover the cost--but this is the big problem with double heat sinks, the cER PPC just exploits it better than most other weapons. I'd say both the cERPPC and the Gauss Rifle are problematic - extreme long-range one shot kill weapons are highly problematic at best. The cERPPC is worse, though, because at least the GR takes up a huge number of crit spaces, explodes and is ammo-limited. Kanos posted:Stuff like the initiative phase system and the simplification of heat and what it does to the mech are both really good ideas that I could see translating to a tabletop game very well, yeah. I'm interested to see if this does happen - for better or worse, TT's rules are basically unchanged after thirty years. There's been tweaks, weapon-specific additions and subsystems added, but the core gameplay? Things like heat, movement and such? I could use my old 1986 CityTech book to introduce somebody who'd never played before and they'd be fine.
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Good god the Steam Discussion forum for this game is such a cesspit. Isildur, thank you for the pronouns dropdown bar. gently caress the haters.
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Aramoro posted:I'd be well up for this but being a Eurogoon makes it really hard to get good times to do matches in my experience. I'll keep an eye on it and see how many Euro's signup, might be do able. Try being stationed in Korea where there's at least a 13 hour time difference with players in the states.  Edit: Looks like there's some Aussies signed up; might just say gently caress it a throw my name in there. BadOptics fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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My internet at home went out over the weekend and it might not be back in time for tomorrow.  I'd like to sign up for the tourney but won't just yet in case. As long as the initial brackets are by time zone I'm sure the quarter finals + can be sorted out across timezones well enough even if it needs to wait until the weekend.
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Anticheese posted:Good god the Steam Discussion forum for this game is such a cesspit. It's especially funny because the Reddit, of all places, is being really cool about it. Most posters don't give a poo poo or support the idea, and attempts to troll about it get called out and shut down prior to getting removed. Coucho Marx posted:ugh I need this loving game in my life right now loving same.  No idea how I'm getting through the next 27 hours.Ramadu posted:so what are the good builds support-heavy mechs are actually really rare, but especially in hot or low-dissipation settings (like a moon where you first claim the Argo) heat warfare units can be pretty good! The only trick is making sure they don't get shot to bits on the approach. MGs can't breach armor but they gently caress up structure incredibly hard if they can hit unarmored bits.
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SpaceDrake posted:It's especially funny because the Reddit, of all places, is being really cool about it. Most posters don't give a poo poo or support the idea, and attempts to troll about it get called out and shut down prior to getting removed. I'm the only active mod of /r/battletech and I took a lot of satisfaction in locking the most recent trollthread about the pronoun dropdown. The community response against the most recent rear end in a top hat was really surprising and comforting, considering the Battletech community is infamous for its grognardary.
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Anticheese posted:Good god the Steam Discussion forum is such a cesspit ftfy Anticheese posted:Isildur, thank you for the pronouns dropdown bar. gently caress the haters. Yeah, for someone who doesn't need it at all, that really made me happy. It's a little thing that just makes the game so much better, and it looks like that care and attention to detail is coming out in the gameplay, as well. Drone posted:Didn't see this posted here yet but I love how the company customization screen has a tiny little miniature painting station I noticed, it was loving adorable   "Commander, the people of the Aurigan Reach need our help!" "Yeah, gimme a loving minute, I have to finish the details! stupid Glitch and their stupid pretty Banshee, the Atlas is so much cuter..."
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Drone posted:I'm the only active mod of /r/battletech and I took a lot of satisfaction in locking the most recent trollthread about the pronoun dropdown. The community response against the most recent rear end in a top hat was really surprising and comforting, considering the Battletech community is infamous for its grognardary. Equal Opportunity Grognards. When's the preload for this start?
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sorry guys, i just got the news, game is canceled and harebrained schemes is refocusing all development resources on their new match-3 mobile game using battletech mechs
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Aramoro posted:I'd be well up for this but being a Eurogoon makes it really hard to get good times to do matches in my experience. I'll keep an eye on it and see how many Euro's signup, might be do able. Check the signup sheet, there seem to be plenty of people in the eastern hemisphere
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Back Hack posted:What's a dropdown bar? Your pilot pronouns can be he/she/they, being inclusive of gender non-binary folks and the dumber parts of the internet lost their poo poo over it.
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Carcer posted:Equal Opportunity Grognards. Today at 9am Pacific US time. So about 3 hours from now.
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Cowcaster posted:sorry guys, i just got the news, game is canceled and harebrained schemes is refocusing all development resources on their new match-3 mobile game using battletech mechs If it was as good as Ironcast I'd play it.
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Steam forums are always toxic as gently caress because they're barely moderated. They're a goddamed great example of just what amazing shitheads people can be on the internet if there's no effective moderation. See also: the PUBG pre-game lobby. What's that? You can't see who is saying what from the other teams, making all voice communication essentially anonymous? Time to sit through 30 seconds of everyone around you screeching slurs into their microphones! edit: note that the thing that made SA unique, noteworthy, and an actual quality place to hang out ca. 2000 was the  and moderation that actually, you know, moderated. Anyone who ever tried to talk to someone on the various early 00s gaming forums knows what I'm talking about.
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smooth jazz posted:So will MWO die once this drops? No. MWO is a FPS and this is a strategy game. If the only reason you're into MWO is for stompy robots sure I guess this will scratch that itch, but the people who want to play an FPS aren't going to jump ship because a TBS with the same IP dropped. Plus, as much as I will be the first in line to punch  in the balls and mock their terrible design choices* we need them around so they keep producing models that HBS can use in their much better games*if you're an old MWO player who hasn't logged on in a bit install it if only to see the Solaris 7 system. They managed to make arena battling so obtuse and complicated that it's got to be a piece of performance art commenting on game design or something. It's breathtakingly bad.
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DatonKallandor posted:I'd play it.
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Cyrano4747 posted:*if you're an old MWO player who hasn't logged on in a bit install it if only to see the Solaris 7 system. They managed to make arena battling so obtuse and complicated that it's got to be a piece of performance art commenting on game design or something. It's breathtakingly bad. shouldn't this be a reason NOT to reinstall MWO if you haven't logged on in a long time
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Cyrano4747 posted:No. MWO is a FPS and this is a strategy game. If the only reason you're into MWO is for stompy robots sure I guess this will scratch that itch, but the people who want to play an FPS aren't going to jump ship because a TBS with the same IP dropped. How so?
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Anticheese posted:Good god the Steam Discussion forum for this game is such a cesspit. Yeah, this pushed me from "get it on sale" to "get it at launch". I particularly enjoyed the one guy on Reddit who compared the pronoun choice option to Hitler's invasion of Poland.
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