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Gatts posted:The NFL is modern day slave trade. And I agree to stop idolizing sports. That's college football
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twice burned ice posted:Please elaborate. NFL players are compensated for their labor, have freedom of movement, and are represented by a player's union. To me the NFL is much more akin to a modern gladiatorial league, since the combatants live extravagant, popular, and short lives.
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Sinister_Beekeeper posted:Since at least one of you is saying they live near a golf course, I really want to know how often someone there has to replace windows. My Fiancee's parents/sister (they're not golfers for what it's worth) live across the street from the greens of one of those in-development golf courses. As far as I know they've never had problems with stray golfballs. This may just be the angle, other houses might get it worse if they're like just behind the hole or something. But it is kind of annoying, they built the entire development without sidewalks and the greens/golf cart paths are off limits.
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Gort posted:I thought that was prison Prison is too
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twice burned ice posted:Do you think milk toast is a breakfast item or something? Also it's milquetoast
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VideoGameVet posted:The marketing manager I hired at the mobile game company I was at (2010-2016) was a 20-something who nailed a job at "Taylor Made Golf" and basically gets paid to play, interview players and talk about their stuff. One of the kids i used to play with grew up to be an excellent golfer. Played in the Masters and US Open last year and ended up tied for best amateur in the latter. He just got a job as a "salesman" for six figures a year. He doesn't have to sell poo poo. His job is to play golf and impress the rich fucks with his game while his boss schmoozes them. Critical fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Apr 4, 2019 |
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Apr 4, 2019 17:59
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Shifty Pony posted:It largely is. Houses in course communities are plummeting in value as boomers move out to assisted living or die and no younger people want to buy a place where you can't walk to anything and you have to pay an assload to the HOA for course upkeep. Let's take a quick peep, and use a golf course in Phoenix I know of in an old neighborhood that failed. Here's is a random example from one of the neighborhoods that backed up to the course on Zillow: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/12846-S-45th-St-Phoenix-AZ-85044/8151024_zpid/ First off just take a look at the satellite view there. That course has been closed, I think over five years now and just look at what happened when it did: http://www.ahwatukee.com/news/article_5b1ecc60-2f17-11e9-bf6c-77d0755fe3e7.html But yeah, check this blurb from Zillow: quote:The Zestimate for this house is $268,149, which has decreased by $8,972 in the last 30 days. The Rent Zestimate for this home is $1,550/mo, which has decreased by $45/mo in the last 30 days. That's the last 30 days of course but let's look at another one with some history behind it: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4440-E-Shomi-St-Phoenix-AZ-85044/8150954_zpid/ The price history here has it selling at the top of the market in 2006, when the course was open, for $275k, and selling again eight years later in 2014 (when prices had recovered already quite a bit from 2010 lows) for only $180k when the course had closed. Mind you, it wasn't the derelict you see today back then and at that time there was still hope the course would reopen. That hope is long gone. This one's just for funsies: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4402-E-Shomi-St-Phoenix-AZ-85044/8150944_zpid/ Check out THIS deluded son of a bitch! Give them credit, lots of pictures showing the "view" this house has! But check the price history, it last sold for $219k 3 years after the course closed, a price drop of nearly $20k off the original asking price. And this was when the housing market was very robust again. Now he wants $280K not more than 3 years later? Hah! Nothing makes whatever Millennial I have in me happier when these old bougie Boomer fake "wealth" status symbols eats poo poo. gently caress golf, gently caress golf courses and gently caress assholes who think paying extra for the privilege of overlooking a bunch of morons whacking a tiny little ball with a fancy crooked stick on manicured grass is smart investing. No tears shed.
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Lol https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1113845598887776256?s=21
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twice burned ice posted:Please elaborate. NFL players are compensated for their labor, have freedom of movement, and are represented by a player's union. It is over the top and I’m exaggerating. But everything I see during the NFL draft, ownership and treatment of Colin Kap and that long denial of concussions, it just strikes me. Like have you ever read the scouting reports? Black athletes are always called freaks, beasts, as if they’re animalistic and it’s always the white players who have leadership skills while black athletes have attitude problems or are questioned, and then the physical examinations and descriptions. So many dog whistles. It strikes me as evaluating slaves worth. And let’s not even get to some of the questions asked of players
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Gatts posted:It is over the top and I’m exaggerating. But everything I see during the NFL draft, ownership and treatment of Colin Kap and that long denial of concussions, it just strikes me. I absolutely agree that there's a very telling disparity in the words used to talk about white athletes and athletes of color, but I don't think it's a problem that's unique to the NFL BonoMan posted:Also it's milquetoast Yes that was the point of the post
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BonoMan posted:
Milk Toast is a real breakfast item. It is very bland. Milquetoast is a cartoon character named after the breakfast item for being bland. It has now turned into an adjective for being bland.
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Apr 4, 2019 18:01
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https://twitter.com/ConnieSchultz/status/1113843749141057537
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Tune in next time for the hottest gameshow, "Shutdown or Syria Withdrawl!:
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I hope Buttigieg doesn't end up getting any traction because he's centrist trash
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I'm not going to bother to watch the video, but apparently it's of immigrants getting through a barrier. https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1113832897323122688 And this is supposed to garner support for more barrier... Unsurprisingly there are hundreds of comments along the lines of "this is literally an example of walls doing nothing to stop illegal immigration" and "if you caught them on camera doesn't that prove general security measures, such as cameras, are more effective than a wall anyway"
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Gatts posted:It is over the top and I’m exaggerating. But everything I see during the NFL draft, ownership and treatment of Colin Kap and that long denial of concussions, it just strikes me. I'm not going to claim that the rich white owners of the teams aren't racist, because of course they are. They're rich and white. But the reason why they're evaluating players based on their physical characteristics is because they're athletes. They're being paid tens of millions of dollars for their physical prowess. Xombie fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Apr 4, 2019 |
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twice burned ice posted:
But as 7c pointed out, it actually *is* a breakfast item!
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Oh https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1113806696097505281
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twice burned ice posted:Please elaborate. NFL players are compensated for their labor, have freedom of movement, and are represented by a player's union. You should read NFL Draft/combine assessments of players.
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If you want to equate sports and slavery, start with the sports league that forbids its players from accepting compensation in the first place (NCAA).
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Xombie posted:I'm not going to claim that the rich white owners of the teams aren't racist, because of course they are. They're rich and white. But the reason why they're evaluating players based on their physical characteristics is because they're athletes. They're being paid tens of millions of dollars for their physical prowess. It’s the descriptions combined with the element of racism and racist white owners, just strikes me as evaluating a slave to see what kind of field hand they’d be but yes there’s a point where arm length and hand size matters in playing.
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President dumb, so what?
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There's only one organ whose size matters in footbaw, The Human Spirit
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Gatts posted:It’s the descriptions combined with the element of racism and racist white owners, just strikes me as evaluating a slave to see what kind of field hand they’d be but yes there’s a point where arm length and hand size matters in playing. The words "freak" and "beast" are constantly used for white linebackers, too. 10 seconds of googling the first two that came to mind: https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/08/bengals-on-joey-bosa-a-freak-i-think-thats-probably-the-unanimous-term-for-him/ http://www.startribune.com/wayzata-s-james-laurinaitis-recently-retired-from-nfl-honored-to-join-big-ten-network/436353173/ Whereas "leadership" is used to describe quarterbacks, universally: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-draft-former-pro-bowl-cornerback-believes-dwayne-haskins-is-the-real-deal/
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:There's only one organ whose size matters in footbaw, The Human Spirit You mean GRIT
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Literally "NO COLLUSION (because we were too dumb to be in on it and were already doing exactly what they wanted)"
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Xombie posted:I'm not going to claim that the rich white owners of the teams aren't racist, because of course they are. They're rich and white. But the reason why they're evaluating players based on their physical characteristics is because they're athletes. They're being paid tens of millions of dollars for their physical prowess. "This thing is very racist therefore it is slavery" also isn't a coherent thought. Gatts posted:It’s the descriptions combined with the element of racism and racist white owners, just strikes me as evaluating a slave to see what kind of field hand they’d be but yes there’s a point where arm length and hand size matters in playing.
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Sports are designed to get people to value physical attributes above mental and emotional ones, and are thus fundamentally dehumanizing and contribute to a culture that glorifies violence. ban them. all of them.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Sports are designed to get people to value physical attributes above mental and emotional ones, and are thus fundamentally dehumanizing and contribute to a culture that glories violence. If we banned all sports and instituted national debate league instead you'd still be terrible at it.
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Xombie posted:The words "freak" and "beast" are constantly used for white linebackers, too. 10 seconds of googling the first two that came to mind: Kerning Chameleon posted:Sports are designed to get people to value physical attributes above mental and emotional ones, and are thus fundamentally dehumanizing and contribute to a culture that glorifies violence.
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yea, all that glorification of violence in soccer and basketball and tennis running track makes you beat your children
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Angry_Ed posted:If we banned all sports and instituted national debate league instead you'd still be terrible at it. Debating empowers and emboldens fascists, so that's a bad idea too.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Sports are designed to get people to value physical attributes above mental and emotional ones, and are thus fundamentally dehumanizing and contribute to a culture that glorifies violence. Cool down, nerd. Sports are fun. Professional ones, we can talk about.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Sports are designed to get people to value physical attributes above mental and emotional ones, and are thus fundamentally dehumanizing and contribute to a culture that glorifies violence. But one of the all time favorite sports stories is the underdog who battles against his or her disadvantages and to be champion.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Sports are designed to get people to value physical attributes above mental and emotional ones, and are thus fundamentally dehumanizing and contribute to a culture that glorifies violence. Colleges are now giving scholarships to e-sports (competitive video gaming) players. UC-Irvine has even built an arena for this. https://esports.uci.edu/arena/
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KickerOfMice posted:Cool down, nerd. Sports are fun. Professional ones, we can talk about. Why do you support children ritually breaking their bones for their parents' entertainment?
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Xombie posted:I'm not going to claim that the rich white owners of the teams aren't racist, because of course they are. They're rich and white. But the reason why they're evaluating players based on their physical characteristics is because they're athletes. They're being paid tens of millions of dollars for their physical prowess. There is definitely a discrepancy in how we (here meaning scouts, broadcasters, and fans as a collective) talk about white athletes vs. athletes of color. I mean, this just happened the other day. When the baseball threads in SAS were more popular, there was a project running to compile broadcasters using these kinds of subconscious biases when talking about different players. I think it might have been for the OP's masters thesis, but I might not be remembering correctly. e: for those who maybe don't follow baseball as closely, Herrera and Gardner have very similar skillsets, but one is white and the other is Venezuelan.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Debating empowers and emboldens fascists, so that's a bad idea too. Hasn't stopped you thus far even though everyone wishes you would.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Why do you support children ritually breaking their bones for their parents' entertainment? I broke plenty of bones in pursuit of my own entertainment tbh
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