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Freudian: Mar 23, 2011

My [17M] parents [54M, 49F] have been having issues. I suspect that my dad is gay and is cheating on my mom. What do I do?

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Hey guys, sorry for all the text in advance. So my dad is a professor, and about two years ago (spring 2017) he befriended a student who I'll call A who's in his early 20s (23-24ish now). I don't know if my dad taught A at any point or if they just met somehow else, but he's studying in my dad's field.

All of this is for the full context of the situation:

About a year and a half ago (october-ish 2017) I was taking a nap on my basement couch. The way my basement is organized is my couch is by the wall, my computer is right beside the couch, and my dad's computer is right behind mine. This arrangement will be important later. When I woke up from my nap, my dad was at his computer - he hadn't been previously. I glanced over, and saw that my dad was looking at what appeared to be gay porn. It was really surreal and I couldn't quite believe it, so I just got up off the couch, pretended not to have seen, and went upstairs to get changed. When I went back downstairs, he wasn't looking at anything else, and that was that.

A little less than a year later (summer 2018), my dad and A had become closer friends. They started going on trips to different places together. Sometimes they'd be within a few hours driving distance, other times they'd have to fly somewhere else together. They'd go on trips pretty much every 2-3 weeks, and when they weren't gone, my dad was spending more and more time with A, which my mom took note of, and she started getting understandably jealous.

By september, my mom had had enough, and they had started having arguments about my dad's relationship with A. My dad was rarely home on weekends - he'd be out spending saturdays and sundays with A, and he'd be out late on weekdays, until 10-11 PM, because after work he'd be spending all his time with A. My mom questioned my dad about their relationship, and she said it was a sick relationship. My dad wasn't happy about this, and get upset with my mom for her discontent with what was going on.

The arguments continued to get worse through october and november. By mid-november, my older brother [25 M] had broken up with his girlfriend and had to move back in, for which my parents were very welcoming. By late november, nothing had changed - my dad had done nothing to appease my mother, and he still refused to acknowledge the weirdness of his relationship with A. One day, they had another big argument, for which my dad was a little tipsy. At some point during the argument, my dad said that my mom would have to "compete with A" to win him. Towards the end of it, my mom said that she'd had enough, that she was considering a divorce, and that she'd talk to a lawyer the next day. My dad only responded by taunting her, which really upset me, so I told him to come upstairs and talk to me in private.

This was the first time I'd gotten involved in their issues. I asked my dad if he thought his relationship with A was weird at all, and he said he didn't think so. I asked him what the issue was with my mom, and he said that he was upset that my mom was unhappy with his relationship with A. I asked him what he wanted the outcome of the situation to be, and he said that he wanted my mom to just accept it and be happy with it, to "accept him for who he is." We talked a bit more, and eventually he admitted to me that he thought that the only resolution to the situation with my mother was divorce. He then told me "If I were to lose A, I would lose a piece of my heart that I wouldn't lose if I were to lose your mother." I asked him if it was okay for me to tell my mom everything that he said to me. He said he was okay with it, so I did. The next day, my mom and my dad made up, and nothing came of it.

Another day in late november, they had another big argument. Apparently my mom was extremely upset because my dad said he was planning on going on a trip to Europe with A for Christmas. Important detail - Christmas day is also his birthday, so he wanted to spend Christmas/his birthday with A instead of with us. This never ended up happening because my mom wouldn't let it happen.

By mid december, my parents had another big argument. My dad's phone had never been password protected. Apparently, my mom searched through his phone. I don't think she found anything out of the ordinary, but my dad found out and got really upset, so he put a password on his phone.

On Christmas day, my parents ended up having a big fight. It got violent, cops were called, and by the end of it, my dad threatened to kill himself, so I called the cops again and they detained him and took him to the psych ward for the night. We went to visit him in the psych ward later that night, which didn't go very well. I talked to him about his issues with my mom again, and one of the first things he told me was "A isn't my boyfriend or anything, nothing's going on between us, your mom's just being stupid." He asked me to hold onto his cellphone for him until he came back, and that under no circumstances could anyone else touch it. I held onto it for him until the next day, when he was released and came back home.

The day after Christmas, my mom seemed adamant that she was going to pursue a divorce. She went out that night to have some time alone to think, and ended up having a talk with my dad. She wanted him to minimize contact with A - not cut contact completely, god bless my mom's kind soul, but just to minimize contact with him. My dad said that he was just going to continue speaking with A for eight more months. He just wanted my mom to be patient for eight more months, because apparently he had to "help build up A's self esteem and confidence." My mom agreed to that probationary period, and after that, things seemed to calm down.

The arguments didn't disappear completely. They'd still happen once or twice a month, but not every other day like before. It seemed to me like my dad was making an effort to patch things up with my mom. However, at this point, I'd start noticing something. Because of the way the basement is arranged as I mentioned earlier, I can see things on my dad's monitor as a reflection from part of my monitor. I would sometimes see my dad looking at what appeared to be pictures of men - usually shirtless men, or something weird like that. I dismissed it as my mind just having confirmation bias caused by paranoia from what I had seen him looking at a year and a half before. I would see it once every few weeks, and just dismiss it again and again.

Months passed, and by the beginning of this month, things were starting to get tense again. My dad was spending lots of time with A again. Over the last few weeks, A would sometimes drink too much, and my dad would go pick him up and let him sleep at our house. Dad was back to spending pretty much every day with A again, and they were texting eachother non-stop on Whatsapp. A moved out, and my dad helped him move. Then A moved back in with his parents a day later, and my dad helped him move again.

This all culminated into another argument which happened last friday. Apparently, my dad and some of his friends were planning a trip outside of the country. Some of his friends had invited their wives to come, but my dad didn't invite my mom, he invited A, which my mom blew up about. After hours of arguing, I guess they resolved the issue some how.

A few days later, on monday this week, A's parents kicked him out, so my dad invited A to stay with us. A moved in and has been staying in our guest room since then, which my mom has been okay with, because she feels bad for him.

Two days later on wednesday, I was playing video games on my computer, when I saw something reflecting from his monitor. He was looking at gay porn, and I couldn't believe it. Like that first time I'd seen it a year and a half ago, it was so bizarre and surreal, so I took pictures of him looking at it, just to make sure I wasn't just seeings things, and lo and behold, I wasn't. All those times I'd seen him looking at pictures of shirtless men and such - it wasn't just me seeing things, it was very real.

The next day, thursday this week, it was about 11:30 P.M, and my mom had gone to bed. My dad was on his phone, texting back and forth on Whatsapp, likely with A. Half an hour later, at midnight, he stopped, and went to his computer. He opened an incognito tab. He didn't look at any pictures or anything as he had before, but he was reading something - what ever he was reading, I couldn't make out. Then, he closed the window, and went over to the laundry room. He paced around the laundry room for a minute, then walked back to his computer, opened another incognito tab, rinse and repeat. He did this for about a good forty five minutes. Finally, he pulled up a photo of A - nothing weird, just a regular photo of A at a park. He zoomed into the photo as far as he could, and scrolled all the way down to A's feet. Then, he slowly scrolled up, to A's shorts, and stopped. He stared at it for a few seconds - then he slowly scrolled up again, all the way to A's face. He started at A's face for a good few seconds - and then he closed the photo, and went to bed.

Today, my parents had another big argument. My mom apparently had made some joke about all the time my dad spent with A, which really upset him, so he blew up and they screamed at eachother for a good bit. Eventually, they stopped, and they ended up going out for a drive - likely to talk and argue some more. When they came back this afternoon, all seemed well. Mom went to the kitchen to cook dinner, and dad came downstairs to do some work. A little later, I noticed, again reflected from his monitor, an incognito tab. He was watching gay porn again. At this point, I didn't want to be there, so I just pretended not to notice anything and went upstairs to talk to my brother about everything. A little later, my brother left and went to his friend's cottage. My dad had gone up to his bedroom, and I asked my mom where dad was. She said that he was downstairs, and I said no, he isn't. She came downstairs and saw that he was missing, so she bolted upstairs into their room. They started talking, and I couldn't hear their conversation because it was storming. They came out an hour later - my mom looked like she had been crying and was distressed. I asked her what happened, and she said it was nothing, and that my dad was just stressed because apparently he was stuck in drama between A and his parents.

From all of this, the only conclusion that I can draw is that my dad is definitely gay (or at the very least bisexual), and that A is his lover. I don't know if he has done anything sexual with A - I don't even know if A knows about all of this, or if this behavior is 100% on my dad's part and is purely just fantasy for him. But, assuming the best case scenario, and that nothing has happened between them, as far as I'm concerned, this goes beyond emotional cheating.

The whole situation makes my stomach curl. I feel like my mom has a right to know about all of this, but I don't want to potentially destroy my relationship with my dad, so I'm at a loss for what to do. I can only see 3 options - either I tell my mom about everything, talk to my dad about what I've seen, or do nothing. What's the right thing to do here?

TLDR: Dad has befriended and has been spending a lot of time with a male student at his university, going on trips and such with him. Mom isn't happy about that, and this has caused a rift in their marriage. I've caught my dad watching gay porn multiple times, and based on his behavior, he seems to be cheating on my mom for this friend of his. I don't know if I should confront my dad about all of this, tell my mom about everything I've seen, or leave the situation alone and let them figure it out.

How in the gently caress has it taken you two years to realise your dad's loving this guy. Why has everyone just accepted this situation. Why has your dad moved in his boyfriend.

# ? May 26, 2019 21:11

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# ? May 15, 2024 09:42

StrangersInTheNight: Dec 31, 2007; ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON

He needs to get a drink with Alison Bechdel

# ? May 26, 2019 21:16

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

Freudian posted:

My wife [35F] thinks I [37M] have too many weapons and wants me to get rid of some because of our kids [1F, 4M, 7M].

A friend's nephew was shot in the face and blinded by his older brother because they found their dad's unlocked, loaded gun just lying around. Keep your guns locked up you irresponsible garbage boy.

# ? May 26, 2019 21:17

Universe Master: Jun 20, 2005; Darn Fine Pie

Freudian posted:

My wife doesn't want to get an Au Pair because she thinks I'm going to cheat on her

Change the word "Au Pair" to "Nanny" and hire a 68 year old retired lady.

# ? May 26, 2019 21:26

Freudian: Mar 23, 2011

Universe Master posted:

Change the word "Au Pair" to "Nanny" and hire a 68 year old retired lady.

And gently caress her.

# ? May 26, 2019 21:30

DeadMansSuspenders: Jan 10, 2012; I wanna be your left hand man

Freudian posted:

My wife doesn't want to get an Au Pair because she thinks I'm going to cheat on her

Hire a au pair that is male. A bro pair.

# ? May 26, 2019 21:37

Bogus Adventure: Jan 11, 2017; More like "Bulges Adventure"

DeadMansSuspenders posted:

Hire a au pair that is male. A bro pair.

And gently caress him

# ? May 26, 2019 21:39

Mr. Lobe: Feb 23, 2007; ... Dry bones...

DeadMansSuspenders posted:

Hire a au pair that is male. A bro pair.

brother did you see the professor story heading off this page? that could backfire spectacularly

# ? May 26, 2019 21:40

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

/r/relationships: and gently caress them

# ? May 26, 2019 21:42

Power Khan: Aug 20, 2011; by Fritz the Horse

Freudian posted:

My wife [35F] thinks I [37M] have too many weapons and wants me to get rid of some because of our kids [1F, 4M, 7M].

Everything I have is stored in a room with a lock on the door, and only I have the key. All my guns are in safes. Some of my knives are locked away, but most of the axes, swords, and machetes are not. Bows definitely aren't.

Everything is safely stored, so there's no real concern.

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Some of my knives are locked away

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but most of the axes, swords, and machetes are not. Bows definitely aren't.

Gee, that's really going to be useful if the Saracens attack.

# ? May 26, 2019 22:09

Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Why are the weapon-obsessed poo poo-monglers so loving reluctant to lock things up? It doesn't matter if it's a gun or a battle-axe, it is not a goddamn toy, put it the gently caress away.

# ? May 26, 2019 22:21

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

DeadMansSuspenders posted:

My [32F] Husband [34M] is loud. Like, REALLY LOUD. To the point I think I'm getting hearing damage. What do?

Excessive formatting all OP's.

chitoryu12 posted:

For reference, 90 decibels is about as loud as a lawnmower.

85 decibels is the level where permanent damage becomes possible with chronic exposure, and also the level where OSHA requires that hearing protection be made available to employees.

He snores at 90dB, which is roughly 3x louder than 85dB.

# ? May 26, 2019 22:27

Chef Bourgeoisie: Oct 9, 2016; by Reene

MasBrillante posted:

Eat the rich.

QuarkJets posted:

This but unironically

Who would say that ironically? :confused:

# ? May 26, 2019 22:44

Dazerbeams: Jul 8, 2009

FactsAreUseless posted:

A friend's nephew was shot in the face and blinded by his older brother because they found their dad's unlocked, loaded gun just lying around. Keep your guns locked up you irresponsible garbage boy.

The guns are locked up. I guess the more "decorative" pieces are the ones lying around? I'd also argue that axes and machetes are about as dangerous as kitchen knives and other household objects that no one thinks twice about keeping out of a child's reach, and which the wife probably wouldn't bat an eye at.

Please note that I'm NOT saying that toddlers are safe around any sort of sharp object.

# ? May 26, 2019 22:47

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

Mods please change my name to decorative loaded gun

# ? May 26, 2019 23:09

Motherfucker: Jul 16, 2011; I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.

"I JUST LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK OK" screams the weapon guy, unaware that the way they look is 'deeply insecure'

# ? May 26, 2019 23:27

LadyPictureShow: Nov 18, 2005; Success!

Freudian posted:

My wife [35F] thinks I [37M] have too many weapons and wants me to get rid of some because of our kids [1F, 4M, 7M].

It's all well and good until the 7y/o accidentally shoots the 4y/o with the ballistic knife you didn't lock up.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:28

sephiRoth IRA: Jun 13, 2007; "Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

Isn�t au pair French for �bang-nanny� anyway?

Wife (51) upset about new au pair (18) from Sweden and it�s causing problem with our relationship
u/markomailey2018

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We have a four year old son and my wife decided to hire an au pair instead of doing day care this spring. I was hesitant at first because sometime people from different cultures don�t follow the right rules when it comes to child care. She settles on helga a very nice mature girl from Sweden. I warmed up to her right away because she is very smart and a good worker. To say thank after the first month I took her to dinner. My wife was very upset after this because she says I never take her out and that it wasn�t the right thing to do to take her to a fancy dinner. I was going to surprise her by taking her to the beach in a few weeks but my wife found out and stormed out of the house saying I just want to see her in a bikini. I think she is being very unfair and culturally insensitive to our new guest. Not sure how to confront her about this?

sephiRoth IRA fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 26, 2019

# ? May 26, 2019 23:30

Breetai: Nov 6, 2005; 🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Motherfucker posted:

"I JUST LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK OK" screams the weapon guy, unaware that the way they look is 'deeply insecure'

Now, now.

I'm sure at least part of it is motivated by a desire to shoot brown people.

If you're fumbling with a safe they might get out of range.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:32

Literally A Person: Jan 1, 1970; Smugworth Wuz Here

areyoucontagious posted:

Wife (51) upset about new au pair (18) from Sweden and it�s causing problem with our relationship
u/markomailey2018

# ? May 26, 2019 23:32

FoolyCharged: Oct 11, 2012; Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Dazerbeams posted:

The guns are locked up. I guess the more "decorative" pieces are the ones lying around? I'd also argue that axes and machetes are about as dangerous as kitchen knives and other household objects that no one thinks twice about keeping out of a child's reach, and which the wife probably wouldn't bat an eye at.

Please note that I'm NOT saying that toddlers are safe around any sort of sharp object.

I knew a family that collected broadsword's and poo poo growing up. One of them eventually ended up being thrust through a sibling's door.

This did not surprise me.

It would probably surprise Mr. "But I have the only key and can never lose it/have it stolen/accidentally leave it out. And I will never, ever forget to lock up."

# ? May 26, 2019 23:33

Bogus Adventure: Jan 11, 2017; More like "Bulges Adventure"

areyoucontagious posted:

Isn�t as pair French for �bang-nanny� anyway?

Wife (51) upset about new au pair (18) from Sweden and it�s causing problem with our relationship
u/markomailey2018

Look, bikinis are an intrinsic part of Swedish culture.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:34

tactlessbastard: Feb 4, 2001; Godspeed, post; Fun Shoe

areyoucontagious posted:

Isn’t as pair French for “bang-nanny” anyway?

Wife (51) upset about new au pair (18) from Sweden and it’s causing problem with our relationship
u/markomailey2018

Your wife seems pretty sharp. Pervert.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:34

SulfurMonoxideCute: Feb 9, 2008; I was under direct orders not to die
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Those are dates, bruh.

Can't wait until he rewards her hard work and intelligence with some dick.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:34

Midnight Voyager: Jul 2, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

QuarkJets posted:

Those women shutting down the creepy guy hitting on them in an Applebee's owned enough when it was just the dude talking about it, but I'm so glad that the update was posted. gently caress you, idiot

Wait, why did she insist on a paternity test if she's not willing to wave it in the face of every rear end in a top hat questioning their son's parentage?

Also from anyone who uses the word "snowflake" in response to making the very reasonable request to stop questioning your child's parentage. That's the word that conservative shitheels use to inform everyone that they're too stupid to care about anyone but themselves

It seems like she does but then they just say "well it doesn't matter, you should just deal with it, snowflake, it's what you get for marrying brown."

DeadMansSuspenders posted:

My [32F] Husband [34M] is loud. Like, REALLY LOUD. To the point I think I'm getting hearing damage. What do?

Excessive formatting all OP's.

That's my dad, loving sever. He will never change. You will never have a moment of quiet again. You will still be hearing his scream-sneezes even if he is multiple closed toors and two floors of the house away. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:36

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

areyoucontagious posted:

Wife (51) upset about new au pair (18) from Sweden and it’s causing problem with our relationship
u/markomailey2018

Any Swedes here to chime in on if it's culturally insensitive for your much-older host to fail to get you into a bikini on a beach within two months of work? Is there some old skald where a young woman is said to be unwanted if she doesn't get her tits out in time?

# ? May 26, 2019 23:39

Odd: Dec 30, 2006; I think everybody just needs to maybe cool out a little maybe

mind the walrus posted:

Any Swedes here to chime in on if it's culturally insensitive for your much-older host to fail to get you into a bikini on a beach within two months of work? Is there some old skald where a young woman is said to be unwanted if she doesn't get her tits out in time?

Yes i also need to know for unrelated reasons

# ? May 26, 2019 23:49

Barudak: May 7, 2007

The only reason to hire an au pair is if you want to gently caress them.

Ah yes, lets take the single most important job I will ever hire for and instead of giving it to someone who both has multiple years of experience personally and professionally and who wants the job long term, lets hire a hot teenager with no proven skills and an inclination to leave the second they realize how much being a parent actually sucks.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:49

Dazerbeams: Jul 8, 2009

I do know of a successful au pair scenario. But it's an older gay couple who only hire women.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:52

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

Nah after my parents divorced as a kid we had a string of young women as au pairs who helped my mom out. It was a godsend b/c my mom was starting a business and my dad wasn't a full-on deadbeat but wasn't exactly supportive either. Once I was old enough to watch my brothers they stopped. Nothing but good experiences. They were just kids themselves but they were interesting, taught us a bunch about European cultures, and helped break us of some spoiled American child habits, and they really took some of the pressure off of a stressful time in everyone's lives.

# ? May 26, 2019 23:54

HMS Beagle: Feb 13, 2009

AITA for wanting a divorce from husband who lost 200k on bitcoin?

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My husband and I have been married for 10 years. For our entire relationship, I have brought the majority of the money into the home. I contribute 75% of that. I don't mind, really. It's not something I think about and I have always considered it "our" money. Our country (Switzerland) is really expensive and I grew up not in a large city, and rather poor. When I had the chance to go to university, I studied hard, learned 3 languages, got 2 degrees, and was able to secure a good position in finance. Years later, I make a very good salary and we don't have to worry about money.

We decided that my husband would handle all of the money and finances for the home. I would check on the accounts every once in a while but, I haven't been checking regularly. A few weeks ago, I was thinking about buying a Model 3, since it has recently come to our country and I've fancied it for some time. I played with the numbers and while figuring out if I can afford it or not, I realized that there was a weird mistake in our accounts. There was 300k CHF/USD missing.

When my husband got home, I showed him the accounts and after some pushing, he admitted that he lost 200k in cryptocurrency in 2018. This is about 25% of our savings. Besides being shocked and angry, I cannot help to feel that he stole from me. He put money into something stupid without talking to me and then tried to hide it. I was thinking about this for a week and talked to my friends and family about it. They think we should see a doctor and talk about it, try to work out the problem. But I honestly just want to get divorced. If he is capable of doing this, how can I trust him ever again? AITA for not wanting to talk about it or go to therapy? AITA for thinking about divorce?

# ? May 26, 2019 23:54

Barudak: May 7, 2007

HMS Beagle posted:

AITA for wanting a divorce from husband who lost 200k on bitcoin?

Im sorry, the warning signs were all there for years you hve to become financially insolvent together when he goes long on iraqi dinars

# ? May 26, 2019 23:58

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

HMS Beagle posted:

AITA for wanting a divorce from husband who lost 200k on bitcoin?

You're an rear end in a top hat for not divorcing way sooner

E: oh wait, a rich Swiss person? Yta regardless of story details

# ? May 27, 2019 00:00

FoolyCharged: Oct 11, 2012; Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

I just googled up an au pair to see what the hell that was.

It's a loving nanny that you pay ridiculous amounts to bring in from out of country? That's it?

Eat the rich.

# ? May 27, 2019 00:01

mind the walrus: Sep 22, 2006

HMS Beagle posted:

AITA for wanting a divorce from husband who lost 200k on bitcoin?

1. You work in finance and you let your husband do the home accounting? I get not wanting to bring work home but this seems like you were asking for trouble.
2. I have never met a primary earner who didn't immediately default to thinking of all the money as theirs the instant there's a whiff of friction. That's not shade, I get it. You went and got the paychecks, it's your money. It's the lies they tell themselves about the power dynamic I'm raising an eyebrow on.
3. Marriage Counselling isn't a bad idea because the real problem is that hubby didn't communicate his terrible, terrible investment strategies and you two don't work together well as a unit.
4. That said you could easily find a better guy by divorcing him. Dude went and gambled on a known volatility in 2k18 without talking with you, most likely because he knew you'd tell him it was a stupid gamble. When you're in that rarefied air of big earners it wouldn't be out of character to say "you're not worthy" and find someone new.

# ? May 27, 2019 00:02

Palpek: Dec 27, 2008; Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.

areyoucontagious posted:

Wife (51) upset about new au pair (18) from Sweden and it�s causing problem with our relationship
u/markomailey2018

It helps to read this one in Borat's voice.

# ? May 27, 2019 00:07

Clark Nova: Jul 18, 2004

FoolyCharged posted:

I just googled up an au pair to see what the hell that was.

It's a loving nanny that you pay ridiculous amounts to bring in from out of country? That's it?

Eat the rich.

I thought it was a student/young adult travel thing and they don't get paid very much money? All the au pair stories I've ever heard were about the dad loving or trying to gently caress them, or creepy religious weirdos using them as a captive audience for indoctrination and withholding their pay or passport to try to keep them from going outside

# ? May 27, 2019 00:08

Beachcomber: May 21, 2007; Another day in paradise.; Slippery Tilde

Is it accurate to say there's nowhere on Earth young women can go without dads trying to gently caress them?

# ? May 27, 2019 00:12

Clark Nova: Jul 18, 2004

The isle of Lesbos

# ? May 27, 2019 00:13

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# ? May 15, 2024 09:42

Guildenstern Mother: Mar 31, 2010; Why walk when you can ride?

Yeah if you can avoid the boomer dad tourist season. Vacation ruined.

# ? May 27, 2019 00:16

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