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I live in a place with an annoying means-tested public system and was first paying literally $20 a month for 2 kids, but then it went up to like $400 when my wife started working. $1600 is basically saying don't have kids unless you're rich or want to work two jobs to support them.
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The economics are probably a little different here but in Toronto I'm paying $2500/mo for both my kids in daycare. I'm on the board of directors for our daycare, which is not-for-profit, and roughly 80% of that cost is labour. We just unionized as well, so that'll probably go up a bit, but that's fine with me because you would have to pay me three times that amount to deal with kids (that weren't my own) all day.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 02:25 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Most white Americans do want uhc, they just don't want non-white people to have it too. Something like half the country attends church on a regular basis, so I don't' think the idea that they reject evidence-based good faith arguments is that outlandish.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 02:25 |
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EverettLO posted:All the Limbaugh in the world couldn't break his love for his family and he supported my brother and me through mistakes that flew against the conservative mindset. He also loved babies and had a great relationship with his grandchildren. so he was just as hypocritical as anti-abortion activists who get their kids abortions, cool. your dad actively voted to gently caress over everyone not a white male for guns and reaganomics lol
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 02:47 |
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Kitfox88 posted:so he was just as hypocritical as anti-abortion activists who get their kids abortions, cool. your dad actively voted to gently caress over everyone not a white male for guns and reaganomics lol gotta agree, gently caress your dad, and not in the sexy way "my dad loves me, he just hated brown people"
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 02:57 |
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And yuuuuup this is now the moment I wake up from the last couple of years right?
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 03:21 |
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BiggerBoat posted:
OECD posted:Figure 7.1 also shows the split of health spending based on whether it is paid from government sources or some kind of compulsory insurance, or through voluntary means such as voluntary health insurance or direct payments (see indicator on “Financing of health care”). In general, the ranking of per capita expenditure of government and compulsory schemes is comparable to that of total spending.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:14 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:The economics are probably a little different here but in Toronto I'm paying $2500/mo for both my kids in daycare. I'm on the board of directors for our daycare, which is not-for-profit, and roughly 80% of that cost is labour. We just unionized as well, so that'll probably go up a bit, but that's fine with me because you would have to pay me three times that amount to deal with kids (that weren't my own) all day. at least with this arrangement most of they money goes to the workers...and they're hopefully paid well???
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:21 |
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EverettLO posted:My Trump voting father died of a brain cancer about a month ago. Thinking about his life, it occurs to me that he led the archetypal life of a boomer. glad your boomer dad is dead. what a hypocritical prick lmao
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:28 |
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i think y'all are a being a bit too harsh here i mean, yeah that poster's dad WAS objectively awful, but we could show the guy a bit of tact
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:30 |
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:32 |
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Mr Interweb posted:i think y'all are a being a bit too harsh here shut the gently caress up liberal
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:36 |
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BraveUlysses posted:at least with this arrangement most of they money goes to the workers...and they're hopefully paid well??? Oh for sure, that's one of the reasons I'm fine with it and we didn't resist them unionizing at all. Early Childhood Educators should be compensated well, and thanks to public healthcare they can be, instead of that money going to insurance. Even at those rates, the margins are pretty thin, though we're not for profit so it doesn't matter.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 05:39 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:The economics are probably a little different here but in Toronto I'm paying $2500/mo for both my kids in daycare. I'm on the board of directors for our daycare, which is not-for-profit, and roughly 80% of that cost is labour. We just unionized as well, so that'll probably go up a bit, but that's fine with me because you would have to pay me three times that amount to deal with kids (that weren't my own) all day. So break this down for me, you're paying $1250/child a month, what's the ratio of workers to children? How much are they getting paid per month?
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 11:57 |
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lol at the guy whose lovely boomer dad died
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 12:42 |
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cakesmith handyman posted:So break this down for me, you're paying $1250/child a month, what's the ratio of workers to children? How much are they getting paid per month? It's not split equally. We pay 1700 for our toddler (2 years old) and 550 for our older one (6 years old). The ratios are mandated by the province - around 3:1 kids:ECE's. The workers rates vary based on seniority but they're about 20-25/hr plus benefits. Most are right in the middle or at the top end of that range.
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Holy shitballs America To be fair, it's not so much daycare as it is a school with actual curriculum and whatnot. They get breakfast, lunch and an afternoon snack, all cooked in-house. On the other hand, I'm on the lowest tier for payments based on our income. Also they structure enrollment so that if you're not paying all year round, you're probably not going to have a spot in the fall. Like, if I take my kid out in the summer since my wife is home, I won't have a spot next semester. It costs more than my house.
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Burt Sexual posted:My county proactively voted to raise the minimum to $15/hour, the state legislature promptly passed a law prohibiting cities and counties from establishing a min wage. Party of freedom. Are you from Missouri because I'm pretty sure that happened to St. Louis
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zegermans posted:Are you from Missouri because I'm pretty sure that happened to St. Louis happened here in my city in Iowa, so DSA canvassed local restaurants and got them to pledge to pay the new minimum wage despite the state law, and picketed the few holdouts until they agreed too.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 13:59 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:i don't know if anyone else has had this experience, but it's absolutely insane how american evangelicalism has become a blatant death-cult. loving , OP
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selec posted:happened here in my city in Iowa, so DSA canvassed local restaurants and got them to pledge to pay the new minimum wage despite the state law, and picketed the few holdouts until they agreed too. nice
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selec posted:happened here in my city in Iowa, so DSA canvassed local restaurants and got them to pledge to pay the new minimum wage despite the state law, and picketed the few holdouts until they agreed too.
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selec posted:happened here in my city in Iowa, so DSA canvassed local restaurants and got them to pledge to pay the new minimum wage despite the state law, and picketed the few holdouts until they agreed too. Good! Food service workers deserve better.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 15:07 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:It's not split equally. We pay 1700 for our toddler (2 years old) and 550 for our older one (6 years old). The ratios are mandated by the province - around 3:1 kids:ECE's. The workers rates vary based on seniority but they're about 20-25/hr plus benefits. Most are right in the middle or at the top end of that range. that's so good us federal law for teacher:student ratios in daycare https://www.childcare.gov/consumer-education/ratios-and-group-sizes not great, folks
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 15:28 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:It's not split equally. We pay 1700 for our toddler (2 years old) and 550 for our older one (6 years old). The ratios are mandated by the province - around 3:1 kids:ECE's. The workers rates vary based on seniority but they're about 20-25/hr plus benefits. Most are right in the middle or at the top end of that range. Okay, that honestly does sound like the majority of the money goes to wages, fantastic. I mean, terrible that it costs that much, but still.
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Crunchy Black posted:loving , OP yeah, that's been the case since i was in my early 20s and my youngest brother came out and my parents (predictably) treated him like poo poo. i had moved out when i was 18 and had been living on my own for several years, so when he came out and told me what they said / did to him, i had him move in with me and told my parents how badly they had hosed up, treating their own son like this. i mean, they weren't cool with me either, but since i'm cis-het i didn't have to deal with the kind of mind games they apparently started dropping on him. for years i think i spoke to them maybe once or twice in a given year. when my wife became pregnant and i told my mom, she wanted to do some magic 180 and pretend like they could just be cool fun grandparents that would be involved in my daughter's life, and it was cathartic getting to tell her why that was never going to happen and they could gently caress right off.
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Freaking Crumbum posted:yeah, that's been the case since i was in my early 20s and my youngest brother came out and my parents (predictably) treated him like poo poo. i had moved out when i was 18 and had been living on my own for several years, so when he came out and told me what they said / did to him, i had him move in with me and told my parents how badly they had hosed up, treating their own son like this. i mean, they weren't cool with me either, but since i'm cis-het i didn't have to deal with the kind of mind games they apparently started dropping on him. he's lucky you're so cool OP evangelicals are the reason the military is gayer than the population as a whole too thanks to poo poo like this and kicking out sons/daughters who come out, for many it's either military or the streets where there is pretty much no best case scenario hard to imagine why the average age of church goers is like 80! (the UU one near me actually is pretty youthful but there's no way an evangelical would consider them "real" christians as they're super lefty and believe that deeds > words, basically a nightmare ideology to an evangelical)
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 19:41 |
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uh it's been a while since I attended but UU as an organization doesn't identify as christian or any other larger religious tradition
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Jenny Agutter posted:uh it's been a while since I attended but UU as an organization doesn't identify as christian or any other larger religious tradition Yep, UU's aren't Christians.
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Grape posted:Yep, UU's aren't Christians. I was raised AoG(the worst kind of Evangelical), I tried attending a UU church before I got married it was chock full of atheists like me and I liked it. But I was working retail so it was hard to schedule around that and I just kind of drifted away. My wife is super creeped out as bored by religious ritual/ceremony so I've never really tried to start up again. I do like to "get into religious mode" like how I played along when I was a kid sometimes just to gently caress with her though. She really really hates it.
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Shaffness posted:I was raised AoG(the worst kind of Evangelical), I tried attending a UU church before I got married it was chock full of atheists like me and I liked it. But I was working retail so it was hard to schedule around that and I just kind of drifted away. My wife is super creeped out as bored by religious ritual/ceremony so I've never really tried to start up again. I do like to "get into religious mode" like how I played along when I was a kid sometimes just to gently caress with her though. She really really hates it. you seem pretty dumb.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 20:57 |
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I don't see how that's very dumb but I've never attended so Jenny Agutter posted:uh it's been a while since I attended but UU as an organization doesn't identify as christian or any other larger religious tradition yeah I worded that poorly and didn't mean to imply that, more that mammon-worshipers would probably think it was legit worship of Satan before they'd think of it as anything that could be seen as holy or even good the one where I live is apparently incredibly good but I keep finding reasons not to go, I should go Sunday to check it out, I have to go into work for a few hours after but it sounds like they wouldn't care if I show up in my jeans and work polo
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 21:35 |
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Epic High Five posted:you can tell that the minimum wage hike experiments were successful because chud think tanks and poo poo libs are still refusing to leave the realm of abstracts, because after all, more people having more money to spend increasing the velocity of money being a unambiguous good for the economy is Marxism yeah that’s always my favorite part because they don’t even realize the silent end of the argument they’re making “sure more people will be in higher brackets which is good for the economy but the companies will just fire a bunch of people to compensate” ... because the companies and higher ups will never relinquish their ludicrous shares of profits. Biplane posted:you seem pretty dumb. it’s pretty cathartic actually. I do it sometimes and it’s like purging that poo poo out of you. and considering I’ve listened to more sermons than you could have heard if you went to church 3x a week for 40 years, I say I’m due some cathartic purging.
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Freaking Crumbum posted:yeah, that's been the case since i was in my early 20s and my youngest brother came out and my parents (predictably) treated him like poo poo. i had moved out when i was 18 and had been living on my own for several years, so when he came out and told me what they said / did to him, i had him move in with me and told my parents how badly they had hosed up, treating their own son like this. i mean, they weren't cool with me either, but since i'm cis-het i didn't have to deal with the kind of mind games they apparently started dropping on him. That sucks. I can relate. My ex wife - we were married for 10 years - dated a black guy before she met me and her old man wound up crying in a fetal position in the bathroom when he learned about it. Her brother had her back but the whole thing must have sucked out loud while she was going through it. They're still die hard GOP voters even though apparently they don't like Trump. I can't imagine that kind of blowback from the few people that are supposed to love and take care of you just for being gay or dating outside your race. So loving stupid and damaging.
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 22:47 |
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forgive my ignorance, but what the gently caress is a uu
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 23:15 |
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I saw a truck with multiple Trump! stickers today rolling the coal.
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ElGroucho posted:forgive my ignorance, but what the gently caress is a uu Unitarian universalist
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unitarian world universalist
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