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Charlie Elphicke having the gall to speak in parliament, there.
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Wish someone could prorogue Geoffrey Cox.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:36
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They're so thirsty for someone to do a Quiet Gardener
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Sep 25, 2019 12:36
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Cox clearly thinks that he's some sort of Shakespearean actor. Christ he's irritating
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Sep 25, 2019 12:36
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e: ^^^ the pair of lungs on him, I've often thought that he should be an actor. Pretending to be a lawyer. On TV. Rather than in Parliament. Attorney General's job is to tell the Government why the thing that they want to do is actually totally legal, Cox is just particularly bad at pretending otherwise
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Sep 25, 2019 12:36
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More like Pat McFudden. Coz he's a fud, innit?
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Sep 25, 2019 12:37
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https://twitter.com/cathynewman/status/1176819315057864706?s=19 Bloody Pressure pushing down on me Pressing down on you, no man ask for Bloody pressure that burns a building down Splits a country in two Puts people on streets
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Sep 25, 2019 12:43
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It's kind of funny that whoever the current Tory speaking is, they immediately become the absolute embodiment of everything I hate.
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Necrothatcher posted:It's kind of funny that whoever the current Tory speaking is, they immediately become the absolute embodiment of everything I hate. This is leftist terror
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Sep 25, 2019 12:47
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Failed Imagineer posted:tag urself I'm Boney
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Sep 25, 2019 12:49
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While I wouldn't want to comment on the inherent appearances of the tory front bench, there are some remarkable expressions and body language going on right now
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Sep 25, 2019 12:51
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She's the lib Dems candidate for Uxbridge https://twitter.com/EvendenKenyon/status/1176761367237472256?s=19
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Sep 25, 2019 12:52
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Jose posted:She's the lib Dems candidate for Uxbridge Are the Lib Dems even trying at this point?
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Hentai Jihadist posted:This is leftist terror And that's why it's cool daddio
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yung lambic posted:Are the Lib Dems even trying at this point? Their continued existence is very trying OP.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:55
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Jose posted:She's the lib Dems candidate for Uxbridge Since prescriptions are already means tested, a free prescription policy would mainly benefit middle-class voters, particularly elderly people. Which makes rejecting that policy a really weird thing if she wants any kind of liberal base.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:56
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yung lambic posted:Are the Lib Dems even trying at this point? I know multiple Lib Dems who think reneging on the tuition fee promise was good because it was economically untenable anyway
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Sep 25, 2019 12:58
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Purple Prince posted:Since prescriptions are already means tested, a free prescription policy would mainly benefit middle-class voters, particularly elderly people. only if you stretch your definition of "middle class". the means testing is just a benefits check - i pay my way on my terrible band 2 nhs salary, as does anyone else who isn't entitled to the relevant benefits for whatever reason. a full time worker on minimum wage shouldn't be considered middle class by any stretch of the imagination.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:59
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Sanford posted:That she has a collection of brooches was number one on the BBC's list of five things you must know about Lady Hale. I don;t know what 2-4 were. Utter trash journalism. To be fair, they are all awesome brooches.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:01
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Purple Prince posted:Since prescriptions are already means tested, a free prescription policy would mainly benefit middle-class voters, particularly elderly people. Liberal policies are so heavily slanted to benefiting the rich while trying to appear to not be so slanted that they have to attack universal policies of provision like this so they have something, ANYTHING to point to to say 'actually we aren't in the pocket of the rich, we're saying they need to pay [potentially really minor expense]'
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CoolCab posted:only if you stretch your definition of "middle class". the means testing is just a benefits check - i pay my way on my terrible band 2 nhs salary, as does anyone else who isn't entitled to the relevant benefits for whatever reason. a full time worker on minimum wage shouldn't be considered middle class by any stretch of the imagination. Yeah fair enough. Still totally bizarre for the Lib Dems to cannibalise their own base by rejecting a policy that would benefit them.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:03
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Jose posted:She's the lib Dems candidate for Uxbridge https://twitter.com/internethippo/status/881161169469403137?lang=en
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Purple Prince posted:Since prescriptions are already means tested, a free prescription policy would mainly benefit middle-class voters, particularly elderly people. That Lib Dem tweet is just going to come off as "It isn't right under all circumstances that everyone should get free prescriptions. People under Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish circumstances yes, English circumstances no." to a lot of people though, so it's a big self own. CoolCab posted:only if you stretch your definition of "middle class". the means testing is just a benefits check - i pay my way on my terrible band 2 nhs salary, as does anyone else who isn't entitled to the relevant benefits for whatever reason. a full time worker on minimum wage shouldn't be considered middle class by any stretch of the imagination.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:05
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Jose posted:She's the lib Dems candidate for Uxbridge Works pretty well in Scotland.
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Necrothatcher posted:It's kind of funny that whoever the current Tory speaking is, they immediately become the absolute embodiment of everything I hate. 'become'
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namesake posted:Liberal policies are so heavily slanted to benefiting the rich while trying to appear to not be so slanted that they have to attack universal policies of provision like this so they have something, ANYTHING to point to to say 'actually we aren't in the pocket of the rich, we're saying they need to pay [potentially really minor expense]' Also there seems to be this very prevalent idea that doing unpopular things is sensible politics. it doesnt seem to matter at all whether the outcome is actually good or not. So theres this weird position where the mainstream position seems to be that the "electable" thing to do is push policies that both dont work, often doing the opposite of whats intended, and are unpopular.
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CyberPingu posted:Works pretty well in Scotland. And in several other EU countries. It's amazing how socialized welfare can still be pointed at as something unattainable-unsustainable. Of course what they really mean is "it's not possible without changes in taxation and/or public spending policies", which really boils down to "it's impossible without taxing the rich more", but doesn't sound that well to most con/lib voters.
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https://twitter.com/jayrayner1/status/1176830433075576832 Zands really is on fire today
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Jose posted:She's the lib Dems candidate for Uxbridge won't somebody think of the
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Guavanaut posted:There's a lot of working class people who need multiple prescriptions each month. You can get prepayment certificates, but there's a lot of people who are on reduced income (due to needing multiple prescriptions a month) and don't meet the HC1 requirements. I wouldn't call someone who can only work part time because of an illness and yet earns more than minimum wage 'middle class'. The charge is pretty weird in its own way - around 90% of prescriptions are dispensed free anyway. And even if you have a medical exemption (which I do), you get all prescriptions free - not just the ones to treat whatever you have the exemption for. It raises about 1/2billion a year though, which is around 0.3% of the NHS budget.
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StarkingBarfish posted:'become' Then the next Tory comes along and I suddenly can't imagine how a human being could be more self-satisfied and monstrously evil.
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VideoGames posted:I am feeling quite innocent today. Whenever I think of Hitachi I think of the disk drives and servers I worked on in the past. And that's what Hitachi wants you to keep thinking. The Hitachi Magic Wand was designed to be a back massager before women repurposed it as a vibrator. Once it exploded in popularity, Hitachi tried to take it off the market because they didn't want to be associated with sex toys. Due to massive complaints they backed down but now sell it without the name Hitachi anywhere on the box, though most people still call it "the Hitachi".
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I have before now had to go without medicine that I needed because I could not afford the prescriptions and did not qualify for free prescriptions. & because I was considered a suicide risk at the time they'd only give me a week's worth at a time so I had to pay 4 times as much. loving scroungers maliciously getting ill at the expense of hard working taxpayers tho, amirite
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All this legality stuff pisses me off - it was breaking convention, he was clearly playing silly buggers, gently caress him. Fake edit: Oh poo poo - coup/coo pun from the SNP 
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StarkingBarfish posted:https://twitter.com/jayrayner1/status/1176830433075576832 This makes no sense unless you post Rayner's joke, poor tweetposting, 1/10 (the one point is because it rendered)
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Borrovan posted:e: ^^^ the pair of lungs on him, I've often thought that he should be an actor. Pretending to be a lawyer. On TV. Rather than in Parliament. Remember during the contempt hearings all the liberals started swooning over how Prime Ministerial here was? Have they ever looked even a single loving angstrom before the surface of any politician?
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Darth Walrus posted:New entry to the Private Eye lexicon. Guavanaut posted:You can get a HC1 if you have low income and low savings without being on benefits, but you're right that the means test rules out far more working class people than middle class people. I'd rather hate myself for slowly bankrupting my wife with my inhalers than be dead within a year from hell stress.
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Red Oktober posted:The charge is pretty weird in its own way - around 90% of prescriptions are dispensed free anyway. And even if you have a medical exemption (which I do), you get all prescriptions free - not just the ones to treat whatever you have the exemption for. It raises about 1/2billion a year though, which is around 0.3% of the NHS budget. Yeah, even before the SNP abolished charges I was getting everything for free as I'm diabetic. I wouldn't ever have slapped them for it otherwise. But the net for exemption is wide enough that basically everyone who needed free scrips was already getting them. It was a purely populist policy. Labour doing it in conjunction with forming a state owned pharmaceutical company is different, though. It sends the money to somewhere other than the private sector.
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Depressing thing I noticed in the socialist paradise of the Netherlands. Me: "it's really great how you get paid (almost) your whole salary for 2 years if you're off sick" Dutch: "  oh yes so many fakers faking it, makes it hard for business"Stop saying that, people, or they'll take it away! 
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