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Smash
Dec 12, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Turtlicious used a lot of the mental health resources on this site to get better, and the forums were actively an improvement on his mental health because he had people he could talk too about his crazies, and people yelling get help at him made him actually go get help. A goon successs story if he hadn't posted about wanting to blow up cow fields, like a crazy motherfucker.

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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost
Someone talked about helldump a while back and i wanted to bring up something salient to the current forums debacle. Any other forums historians feel free to correct me if i'm wrong about this.

Helldump was a significant part of the leftward movement that this forum has undergone for the last 10+ years. One of the things helldump did (and i believe this led to the creation of LF) was give people a space to poo poo all over the forums Libertarians that infested and ran D&D at the time. Said Libertarians were protected by the strict debating rules and biased modding of D&D at the time, where you weren't allowed to call someone a dumbass/shithead etc for being intentionally obtuse, or a dogwhistle racist/misogynist. Helldump let people with facts/history behind them just openly clown on the libertarian posters without a referee making them back off. The PRON HAUL threads started on Helldump if i remember correctly. LF was a rules-lite that was initially intended for the the libertarians to retreat into (thus, "Laissez Faire"), but it turned out that most libertarians basically cant exist in an environment that isnt constructed for them and run by them.

And of course, in the last 4 years it has turned out that most of your "internet libertarian" types were just closet fash, so imagine what this forum would look like if we hadnt started pushing those folks out a decade plus ago.

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Araenna posted:

I don't know that I ever interacted with Raenir before but he keeps arguing in TGRS about how video games are art and not products while I'm trying to talk about accessibility in video games while getting upset because easy modes would ruin the pacing and gently caress with the artist's vision or some poo poo. It's loving bizarre.

Yeah, I noticed that. I called him out for splitting stupid hairs because it's pretty obvious he's either arguing for arguing's sake or pushing some weird agenda. Unfortunately people keep engaging him so it's just gonna keep going. I wasn't really familiar with him either, so it's good to know this is just what he does and I can safely ignore him.

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

sweet geek swag posted:

Yeah, I noticed that. I called him out for splitting stupid hairs because it's pretty obvious he's either arguing for arguing's sake or pushing some weird agenda. Unfortunately people keep engaging him so it's just gonna keep going. I wasn't really familiar with him either, so it's good to know this is just what he does and I can safely ignore him.

Yep. He's one of those posters that has to reply to every single person addressing him and then dissects every sentence in your post point by point. People replying to him just spurs him on. Apparently he was infamous in the already discussion-heavy D&D Youtube thread for that poo poo.

Like, I'm fairly sure he's not a chud or anything but God can he be annoying.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Miss posted:

These fyad posters flaming out is dumb, but it doesn't top the let's play exodus for sheer patheticness

The lp exodus was literally because people called out transphobia and doxxing and the admins did nothing so a lot of lp folks left in protest. It's literally the exact inverse of this situation.

Malachite_Dragon posted:

My understanding is that Lowtax' kid dared to have a negative opinion about Shmorky (Gee I wonder why, its not like they've made Lowtax' life a living hell) and a lot of LPers flipped their lids.

They were specifically mad about the way the kid was coached to misgender schmorky. Nobody was defending them, just trying to say it was hosed up to deliberately misgender them while criticizing them for their behavior.

small ghost
Jan 30, 2013

AngryRobotsInc posted:

Yeah, Hobby Drama tends to be relatively chill, though there is occasionally some people causing trouble.

This is a fun write up of some horse showing drama.

Horse drama is godamn intense, there used to be this blog called Fugly Horse of the Day which was about posting ugly horses and calling out their owners for having ugly horses, and it had forums and a super aggressive comments section that was just wild to hang out in. There were schisms and civil wars and offsites and rampant doxxing and wild accusations of horse theft, some of which turned out to be true; just this really potent mix of rescue drama, breed snobbery and idk, riding style clashes I think? Someone started an anti blog called Fugly Wench of the Day where lots of people who had had their horses dissed congregated to comb through the og blog runners life for dirt and talk about how ugly her horse apparently was, which was then imploded by a scandal about a tack thief. I don't even like horses and I definitely don't know how to tell if one is ugly or not, but it was incredibly entertaining and bizarre.

Tragically I think the original blog and a lot of the offsites are gone now, but the original anti blog (there ended up being four or five as well as a bunch of forums for and against the original) is still around including the last post which is a good microcosm of the drama:

http://fuglywenchoftheday.blogspot.com/2010/03/taking-step-back.html?m=1

small ghost has a new favorite as of 19:22 on Dec 12, 2019

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Horse riding brings rich people into contact with people who shop at Tractor Supply. How could it not be insane?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Last girl after reading your posts in here and QQCS I think you are cool

and you would be a good mod

BUT

being a mod is a terrible punishment so I don't want you to be a mod

does that make sense?

(also, cum town is bad)

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Araenna posted:

I don't know that I ever interacted with Raenir before but he keeps arguing in TGRS about how video games are art and not products while I'm trying to talk about accessibility in video games while getting upset because easy modes would ruin the pacing and gently caress with the artist's vision or some poo poo. It's loving bizarre.

Raenir watches a lot of youtube dumb youtube analysis videos of pop culture stuff and thinks that makes him an expert. He got into a big argument with me and several other people who actually know something about the topic a while back, insisting that loving Jungian analysis was the bees knees.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

if a comrade tells me they like cum town I mentally file them in the "would not have my back if I were attacked" basket

(ofc they can rescue themselves from that basket by showing good praxis, etc. also, lol, as if I'd be worth saving from anything, lol.)

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

oh, I was 3 pages behind, sorry

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Was "praxis" a Word Wealth word of the day recently or something? Why am I seeing everyone using it all the time now? It's like a couple years ago when all the goons starting using "kismet" all the drat time. I'm super confused.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
If this thread were serving as a substitute for QCS then every post would be a LOT more inflammatory and contrarian but it's been pretty chill in here. Hopefully every subforum is about to similarly improve, now that some key jerks have been disinvited from SA.

edit: praxis has been in the cspam vocab since forever

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Hub Cat posted:

Hi you should probably go ahead and burn down the new thread they made too https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3906697#post500734533

Junpei's aware of that and is watching it. Unless she asks/needs me to directly intervene I'm going to respect her ability to handle her subforum herself. :) But I thank you.


Snow Cone Capone posted:

LAB literally thanked me ITT for posting the link to the last one so getting a bit of a mixed message here, also QCS is currently locked.

Pastry's not wrong though, really, in regards to this specific thread. People are still more than welcome to PM me links, but we probably don't want to set a precedent for this thread to be QCS-lite going forward. And again thanks. :)

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Solice Kirsk posted:

Was "praxis" a Word Wealth word of the day recently or something? Why am I seeing everyone using it all the time now? It's like a couple years ago when all the goons starting using "kismet" all the drat time. I'm super confused.

people from cspam r incapable of saying straightforward things wo using the words modality, calculus, praxis, toolkit, etc.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Solice Kirsk posted:

Was "praxis" a Word Wealth word of the day recently or something? Why am I seeing everyone using it all the time now?

it's a useful word to talk about "actively doing stuff, with intentionality and meaning behind it, in a socialist fashion"

help, if I don't say it twice a week the NPC will strip me of my DSA membership

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

twitter left is incredibly keen on the word too, which as far as i can tell doesn't mean anything

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Someone talked about helldump a while back and i wanted to bring up something salient to the current forums debacle. Any other forums historians feel free to correct me if i'm wrong about this.

Helldump was a significant part of the leftward movement that this forum has undergone for the last 10+ years. One of the things helldump did (and i believe this led to the creation of LF) was give people a space to poo poo all over the forums Libertarians that infested and ran D&D at the time. Said Libertarians were protected by the strict debating rules and biased modding of D&D at the time, where you weren't allowed to call someone a dumbass/shithead etc for being intentionally obtuse, or a dogwhistle racist/misogynist. Helldump let people with facts/history behind them just openly clown on the libertarian posters without a referee making them back off. The PRON HAUL threads started on Helldump if i remember correctly. LF was a rules-lite that was initially intended for the the libertarians to retreat into (thus, "Laissez Faire"), but it turned out that most libertarians basically cant exist in an environment that isnt constructed for them and run by them.

And of course, in the last 4 years it has turned out that most of your "internet libertarian" types were just closet fash, so imagine what this forum would look like if we hadnt started pushing those folks out a decade plus ago.

I seem to recall that Helldump had actual consequences (e.g. getting banned), but only if you chose to participate; if someone created a thread to clown on you and you refused to post in it, nothing official would happen (although obviously anyone can buy an avatar). But of course the average dipshit wouldn't be able to resist getting into a slapfight and would frequently write themselves into a hole in no time.

But maybe I remember wrong, or otherwise misunderstood at the time.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

it's a useful word to talk about "actively doing stuff, with intentionality and meaning behind it, in a socialist fashion"

help, if I don't say it twice a week the NPC will strip me of my DSA membership

Ah, ok that makes sense.

*blinks in Morse code to jump out their window at midnight so we can smuggle them to safety

Smash
Dec 12, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Rescuing people from the DSA is bad praxis. You've been warned.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Someone talked about helldump a while back and i wanted to bring up something salient to the current forums debacle. Any other forums historians feel free to correct me if i'm wrong about this.

Helldump was a significant part of the leftward movement that this forum has undergone for the last 10+ years. One of the things helldump did (and i believe this led to the creation of LF) was give people a space to poo poo all over the forums Libertarians that infested and ran D&D at the time. Said Libertarians were protected by the strict debating rules and biased modding of D&D at the time, where you weren't allowed to call someone a dumbass/shithead etc for being intentionally obtuse, or a dogwhistle racist/misogynist. Helldump let people with facts/history behind them just openly clown on the libertarian posters without a referee making them back off. The PRON HAUL threads started on Helldump if i remember correctly. LF was a rules-lite that was initially intended for the the libertarians to retreat into (thus, "Laissez Faire"), but it turned out that most libertarians basically cant exist in an environment that isnt constructed for them and run by them.

And of course, in the last 4 years it has turned out that most of your "internet libertarian" types were just closet fash, so imagine what this forum would look like if we hadnt started pushing those folks out a decade plus ago.

last thing I remember Helldump doing was trash talking an mit student whose brother killed himself because she had overshared about sex stuff but also they found her brother killing himself her fault or funny or something, I even reached out to her about it because I was also an MIT student at the time and recognized the incident. Don't think it was this account though.

libertarians on the forums absolutely needed to be mocked because the old form of the forum was a lot like /r/unpopularopinion is now, full of dumb lovely antisocial people. glad helldump ended up having that effect on forum culture and at the time there was not going to be a way to change the forum culture any other way I guess, but a lot of people on it were pretty lovely themselves. Way of all mock threads but it was an entire forum and the targets were people.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

Saint Isaias Boner posted:

twitter left is incredibly keen on the word too, which as far as i can tell doesn't mean anything

Praxis is doing things helpful to the cause irl, twitter left will never log off so they try to make it about posting online

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I guess it's just time to go out and be as needlessly trolling as possibly in as many places as possible in the hopes of.... making people more likely to return to the status quo after they'd been trolled a lot?

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Praxis is how you level up in Deus Ex hth

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

theory is praxis
https://twitter.com/whysimonewhy/status/1143280089133699072

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

But of course the average dipshit wouldn't be able to resist getting into a slapfight and would frequently write themselves into a hole in no time.

we have a lot of weird functionally in our brain that both leaves us terrified of being shamed and also makes us incredibly gullible to our own justifications and this combination is something that binds all kindred spirits, from the person getting repeatedly owned online, to the person trying to represent themselves in a trial, to the dude standing drunk outside a mcdonalds at three am screaming to anyone and everyone that he only pissed himself because they won't give him the mcmuffin he fairly paid for

its such things that i find wonderful in people

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

AngryRobotsInc posted:

It's baffling, especially since they mostly ignored my question of "They can't even get subtitles right, and that's basic poo poo. Why are we giving them the "it's their artistic vision" benefit of the doubt instead of just assuming they don't want to put in the time?" The only counter anyone had was "Most games have subtitles!" which...yes, but they often suck.

fool_of_sound posted:

Raenir watches a lot of youtube dumb youtube analysis videos of pop culture stuff and thinks that makes him an expert. He got into a big argument with me and several other people who actually know something about the topic a while back, insisting that loving Jungian analysis was the bees knees.

Kay Kessler posted:

Yep. He's one of those posters that has to reply to every single person addressing him and then dissects every sentence in your post point by point. People replying to him just spurs him on. Apparently he was infamous in the already discussion-heavy D&D Youtube thread for that poo poo.

Like, I'm fairly sure he's not a chud or anything but God can he be annoying.

sweet geek swag posted:

Yeah, I noticed that. I called him out for splitting stupid hairs because it's pretty obvious he's either arguing for arguing's sake or pushing some weird agenda. Unfortunately people keep engaging him so it's just gonna keep going. I wasn't really familiar with him either, so it's good to know this is just what he does and I can safely ignore him.

I feel better now that I know they're just an rear end in a top hat in general. I had started to wonder if I really was communicating that badly. At least until they made it clear that they have a really, really weird definition of "product". They said they're an indie designer so they probably felt called out or something.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Thanks for posting that bit of helldump history. It's so hard to pin down the left/right swings of our forums compared to other forums but that helps. Also makes sense that an institution we built for purging would not disappear once its purpose was accomplished, and would turn rotten. No one wants to be put out of their job of purging.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

who was the pet island mod who carried around a hammer to fend off attacking stray dogs or something, by cracking them in the skull, and talked about it like this was a regular occurrence in their life?

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
Who keeps calling it qqcs, and why?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

El_Elegante posted:

Who keeps calling it qqcs, and why?

Exhibit a: :qq:
Exhibit b: At some point it was called QQCS for a while

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
FYAD constantly called everyone else in QCS a bunch of whiners and snowflakes, and probably pushed for that name

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Dare I ask what "Cum Town" is?

Also LAB, thank you always for your service. I think you have been a consistently good mod/admin , and I hope your personal crap clears up soon. Ain't nobody got time for all this bs, especially if you celebrate the upcoming holidays and all that accompanying stress.

Three cheers (cheeps?) for Bird.

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

El_Elegante posted:

Who keeps calling it qqcs, and why?

for every good, positive thread in qcs, there was at least one 'unban bad poster'/'unfair modding in this subforum'/'why did i get this 6-er' thread.

truly a subforum of contrasts.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

JacquelineDempsey posted:

Dare I ask what "Cum Town" is?

It's a podcast about being gay with your dad. Very wholesome. I forward each week's episode to my son.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
It's FYAD the podcast.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



I'm just gonna pretend Cumshitter's answer is the correct one. :(

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Oct 30, 2009

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Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Ariong posted:

It's weird how we've gone from FYAD posters being probated for nothing despite good behavior to FYAD posters being (up until a few days ago) unpunished in spite of awful behavior.

I remember there was an FYAD poster who just kept on getting probated for asking questions about caring for chickens in the chicken ownership thread in PI, because the mod was just so sure that it must be some secret ironic joke.

From a lot of pages ago but that was hilarious when it happened, if I remember right the lead-up was basically "I bet you will get probated for asking sincere questions about chickens" and so they did. I think it was Twisty but hell I don't remember for sure.

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GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

it was twisty

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