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fermun
Nov 4, 2009

animist posted:

wait how is there a river across florida

the one in the south is showing the st lucie canal connecting lake okeechobee which drains to the west through a river to a river that drains to the east


the one in the north is showing a cross-florida canal project that was started but that never was completed and has been permanently halted

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spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
I can't wait to do wage mage poo poo on the streets of the Kansas City metroplex

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




animist posted:

how long do modern skyscrapers last unattended? there's a lot of steel in there

The empire statebuilding would fall quickly due to the necessity to pump millions of gallons of hidden river and spring water out of its sub basement because it was built over a very wet place.
Many such cases. And don't even get started thinking about debris. an unmaintained sky scraper should not be considered safe to travel near

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




RaySmuckles posted:

its taylor ham

are you even from jersey!? god drat


:yeah:

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013



what the gently caress are they meaning to do I can just watch that poo poo on youtube if I want to lol I'm quarantined even if I did care to go I can't

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

the taylor ham / pork roll thing is a north south thing, not an east west thing.


and it’s loving pork roll Jesus Christ

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


In 24 pages has NOBODY posted this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkik6EUQUc

PipHelix
Nov 11, 2017



RaySmuckles posted:

its all just local blustering

(That's what I was doing)

But yea, I've drunk in biker bars in Union city and I still lock my doors if I have to drive in Camden or Trenton. Plus the whole Chemical Mile down near the Philly Airport.

Anyway, I kid, I kid. Jersey is a soul suck of a strip mall of a state, but there's lots of woods and trails and parks. I'm in SoCal, we're like 1/8th the population density, but there isn't a square foot of habitable space that doesn't have a walled, gated suburb plunked on top of it.

(cue the apologist to talk about the 'running trails' aka unbuildable, unimproved rainwater drainage canyons, and the millions of square miles of empty barren rock once you're on the other side of the sierras.)

Edit, I just realized I did an ill advised early 20s NYE in Atlantic City. We rented a place so in the morning I go to scrounge up breakfast fixins. Only food place I could find was a gas station. Coffee was two glass Bunn pots. Not on a burner, just on a formica folding table, cold. Couldn't find butter, asked the guy behind the plexiglass, he asked how much I wanted I said 'Uh, one? One butter?' dude opened a box he had behind the counter pulled out a LOOSIE butter stick and passed it over. They had a box of oreos on a shelf, ripped open, not sure if that was shoplifting or if they were selling loose cookies too. Worst, weirdest place I've been, residential AC in January in the AM. We're gonna have a whole war over who HAS to take south Jersey.

PipHelix has issued a correction as of 06:10 on Apr 23, 2020

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


TeenageArchipelago posted:

what the gently caress are they meaning to do I can just watch that poo poo on youtube if I want to lol I'm quarantined even if I did care to go I can't

ham fisted intimidation attempt + big soldiers first responders the strongest stealth jets tremendous airplanes USA patriotic kills corona hoax presdiet is working very hard thank you! :smugdon:

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Real hurthling! posted:

The empire statebuilding would fall quickly due to the necessity to pump millions of gallons of hidden river and spring water out of its sub basement because it was built over a very wet place.
Many such cases. And don't even get started thinking about debris. an unmaintained sky scraper should not be considered safe to travel near

Please get started about debris; what?

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Mayor Dave posted:

one of the funniest things about the military industrial complex is that they've put the pork all over the country so pretty much every one of these balkanized regions will have access to all sorts of weapons manufacture right from the get go

also all the weird stupid MIC projects would just immediately disapear like most of the air force

not an endorsement
Mar 14, 2008


Personally, I think it's problematic that a sitting Senator has a racial slur for a last name.



Dumb Lowtax posted:

Please get started about debris; what?

i believe it falls down

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RaySmuckles posted:

that's the big problem though. no way we can feed ourselves


east side is nyc. nyc is way better than philly, no doubt. western jersey is way better than southern jersey, though

its all just local blustering

That's why Colorado will form an alliance with the California Republic, water for food. Also I doubt California is gonna want the Colorado River under the control of Texas.

The Mormons are a wildcard, but hey I'm sure we can all work out a modification to the Colorado River Compact in exchange for a mutual nonaggression pact with a sovereign Mormon state in between so long as they don't gently caress with the river

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

jews love debris

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Zeno-25 posted:

That's why Colorado will form an alliance with the California Republic, water for food. Also I doubt California is gonna want the Colorado River under the control of Texas.

The Mormons are a wildcard, but hey I'm sure we can all work out a modification to the Colorado River Compact in exchange for a mutual nonaggression pact with a sovereign Mormon state in between so long as they don't gently caress with the river

the autonomous lds region

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Spergin Morlock posted:

the autonomous lds region

good money to be had smuggling coffee beans and cases of diet coke, I got a guy in provo who pays in precious metals - none of that ZCMI scrip bullshit

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Zeno-25 posted:

That's why Colorado will form an alliance with the California Republic, water for food. Also I doubt California is gonna want the Colorado River under the control of Texas.

The Mormons are a wildcard, but hey I'm sure we can all work out a modification to the Colorado River Compact in exchange for a mutual nonaggression pact with a sovereign Mormon state in between so long as they don't gently caress with the river

it’s gonna be afghanistan in utah

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Thump! posted:

it’s gonna be afghanistan in utah

No. In a weird way, that is insulting to the Afghans.

Mormons are business minded to a fault. They can't not fall for MLM scemes.

And they are very "fake it till you make it" in portraying success and ideal family life.


Sure, the Mormon Empire will be regressive in a lot of ways, and will no doubt get back into plural marriage. But to anyone visiting, it will be a weird Disneyland Main Street full of dogooder rubes.

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
I’m moving to wherever snake sets up New Outer Heaven

Maduo
Sep 8, 2006

You see all the colors.
All of them.


Thump! posted:

it’s gonna be afghanistan in utah

if anything Afghanistan is clearly West Virginia: heavily armed, mountainous, wedged between several hostile states that want no part of them

Sure they're missing the desert bit, but they'll be equally the graveyard of empires for any breakaway that tries to annex them

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Maduo posted:

if anything Afghanistan is clearly West Virginia: heavily armed, mountainous, wedged between several hostile states that want no part of them

Sure they're missing the desert bit, but they'll be equally the graveyard of empires for any breakaway that tries to annex them

Afghanistan isn’t a desert

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



etalian posted:

California's bread basket (Central Valley) gets most of the agricultural water from aquifers but the use has been so aggressive that the land has started to sink in many spots.

A lot of water has been drawn from aquifers, but we still get lots of water from annual snow pack in the Sierra. With literally any oversight on agricultural usage the snowpack water could still support a huge population (currently farmers protest even beginning to monitor water usage).

etalian posted:

Yeah the whole thing in Central Valley is the classic case of the tragedy of the commons, not to mention how a small number of rich families control a majority of the ground water rights.

A small number of rich people controlling everything is precisely the opposite of a commons.

mcclay posted:

For the person who said that Reno isn't desirable and won't be fought over, I'm not so sure. We sit on the interior end of the Sierra Nevada portion of I-80; basically controlling access into the interior of the US through the mountains from the most central parts of California. I would not be surprised if either A) we manage to dig out a meme city state that is pushed around and controlled by imperial powers ala Berlin or B) get annexed instantly by the West Coast Alliance so that they can fully control the mountain passes and the trade lanes beyond. If you want to do trading with anything past the Sierra Nevadas Reno is one of the cities you need to hold onto in some manner.

My point was that Reno wouldn't be contested by any power outside CA because it has relatively few inherently valuable resources other than the cultural/economic ties it's developed to the Bay Area/California in general. It would be a trans-montane border city of the West Coast Pact in order to assert control over Donner Pass and also to ensure that the people in the high desert had some access to food and culture.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
I can't believe that the federal government is just going to.... give away all of its power without a fight. Without anything. Whenever the topic of secession gets brought up in this thread or elsewhere, there's always someone who goes and says no, it'll never happen, the Federal Government will come down like a sack of bricks on any state or states that dare.

And then there's these guys who are actually in charge of the federal government, going "Haha lol do it all yourselves!" It makes me wonder, like, if the WSP suddenly announced home rule, would they just be like, "Bye, have fun trying to set up your own army and navy LOSERS! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"?

EDIT:



People are going to kill each other over this river.

DrSunshine has issued a correction as of 14:44 on Apr 23, 2020

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Mr.Radar posted:

Another map for consideration. This is based on a survey from last year. I wonder how the Midwestern Partnership will change this map going forward?



This map perfectly represents Kentucky's midwesternness. I'm surprised Louisville identifies over 50% as midwestern, it's definitely southern but the top three counties are undoubtedly midwest. Like I said, it's occupied Ohio.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Real hurthling! posted:

The empire statebuilding would fall quickly due to the necessity to pump millions of gallons of hidden river and spring water out of its sub basement because it was built over a very wet place.
Many such cases. And don't even get started thinking about debris. an unmaintained sky scraper should not be considered safe to travel near

Yeah the World Without Us (A few fun nihilistic book about the end of humans/How long would things last) goes into how for NYC everything was built over underground streams and the city relies on a vast underground
system of drains/pumps.

Once the above engineering system collapses you would start to have buildings crashing down due to the foundations being badly weakened over time by water encroachment

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



https://twitter.com/CursedMaps/status/1253329976100704257

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Agean90 posted:

lol if you dont start listening to dystopian sounding synth music when u open this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JgOlGq6i4

Gives me the willies every time.

Source4Leko
Jul 25, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

Yea I'm ok with this.

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

The war between the People’s Republic of Walmart and the Central Intelligence Amazon bureaucracy will be interesting once the federal government collapses.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


DrSunshine posted:



People are going to kill each other over this river.

feeling thankful the city owns their watersheds

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

PawParole posted:

Afghanistan isn’t a desert

Then why is every Middle East map in video games just flat and sandy huh smarty pants????

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer

DrSunshine posted:



People are going to kill each other over this river.

that is a loving tough river to control. basically every piece of land on that map is a nightmare for military operations

the railroad map from earlier real shows how much bigger and developed the country east of the rockies is compared to the hyper-glorified west coast

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



I for one vote we balkanize back to this



(it's a cool map! https://native-land.ca/ )

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1zHpD475EQ

every city in that emerging megaregions map will be a new Sarajevo

we'll get cool music videos of all the bad stuff recorded on cell phone cameras in like 40 years when things settle down into a new normal

edit: guys with inferiority complexes and big artillery will shoot the skyscrapers before they tumble down naturally

wolfs has issued a correction as of 17:44 on Apr 23, 2020

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God

Mr.Radar posted:

Another map for consideration. This is based on a survey from last year. I wonder how the Midwestern Partnership will change this map going forward?



I'm the 5-20% of people in Chattanooga who think they are in the mid-west.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:

I'm the 5-20% of people in Chattanooga who think they are in the mid-west.

Lake Nickajack is pretty Great.... Why not a Great Lake!

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

DrSunshine posted:

I can't believe that the federal government is just going to.... give away all of its power without a fight. Without anything. Whenever the topic of secession gets brought up in this thread or elsewhere, there's always someone who goes and says no, it'll never happen, the Federal Government will come down like a sack of bricks on any state or states that dare.

And then there's these guys who are actually in charge of the federal government, going "Haha lol do it all yourselves!" It makes me wonder, like, if the WSP suddenly announced home rule, would they just be like, "Bye, have fun trying to set up your own army and navy LOSERS! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"?

I think the Republicans just forgot that the "small government" and "states rights" talk was purely dog whistles as explained by Lee Atwater.

In the classic "mistake the finger for the moon" blunder, they now think the goal is to cripple government, and not just talk to win over racist voters. And the junior members working their way up through local governments are crippling local governments too.

And then Trump gets elected and literally turns the government into Celebrity Apprentice.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

MaPs

Corporate headquarters around the US, posted 2013, take with a grain of salt

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1by6dr/oc_map_of_the_usa_with_the_location_of_major/

Top 25 US ports by tonnage, 2015?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Ports_ranked_by_tonnage.png

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wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

your maps posting has made me wonder: where's the uranium?



its there! out west! the 4 corns will be a lovely nuclear power once the mormons take over

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