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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The ostensibly leftist weirdies who want people not to enjoy things are utterly baffling. Even the loving Bolsheviks knew people ought to experience joy once in a while. skylined! posted:Really on-brand for SA for this thread to go from nail biting to infighting and threadshitting almost immediately after PA flipped. Probably some have been waiting the last 3 days to do the Joe Biden rapist warmonger centrist POS that will see the rise of the competent uber fascist GOP candidate in 2024 elected in a landslide and if you disagree with me you are Nazi rape apologist war hawk routine. Aren't most of them hard core Chapo Trap House listeners too? It seems like that podcast and the whole dirtbag left philosophy has a tremendous influence on this group.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:Sometimes I feel like people would rather Trump win just so they can say "I told you so" on Biden. Scolding is addictive.
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Pick posted:Will the loving antagonistic trolling crypto chuds please gently caress off forever thanks chamois posted:Everybody's having fun. In fact, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXu6QmxpJE 
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I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you.
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Panzeh posted:I think things will not be good but i'm not really going to make predictions about the 2022 and 2024 election cycles because a lot of poo poo can happen between now and then. If Trump being kicked out of the white house was going to have a significant impact in MAGA dipshits doing horrible things then that'd be great, but he did not invent white supremacy or austerity, and both of those things will continue with the same consequences they've always had long after he is no longer president.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:Voting is the absolute minimum a person can do to enact political change. Are you planning on going out to protest Biden's crushing austerity? Are you going out to risk your personal safety to protest police brutality against racialized people? You don't know me or what I do in my free time, so maybe shut the hell up.
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I'm on Latin American Left Twitter, a circle where nearly everyone believes Biden will be not only just as bad but actively worse for us (same interventionism, more competence), and everybody's still taking a second to savor chud tears because it's cool and fun and it also has an impact on local chud populations (I don't think ya'll realize how well MAGA / Q insanity has landed on international far-right populations)
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speng31b posted:This seems to be CNN's chickenshit way of saying "we know he won but we won't say it, because we are consistently terrible." I think they are being overly cautious of playing into Trump's narrative. Calling it too quickly after the flip will just add fuel to the chud fire of "they wouldn't call it when Trump had a half million vote lead, but the call it as soon as Biden has a 5,000 vote lead? FRAUD!" As much as we all want to publicly dunk on Trump, this is actually a pretty dangerous moment. Poking the bear has consequences. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some backchanneling, and GOP people behind the scenes are trying to talk him down first before the networks make it official.
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Kale posted:Aren't most of them hard core Chapo Trap House listeners too? It seems like that podcast and the whole dirtbag left philosophy has a tremendous influence on this group. As annoying as Chapo fans are I'm pretty sure the actual podcast grudgingly endorsed voting for Biden.
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Gooood morning. I'd like to thank george soros for allowing us to use the ANTIFA jet to paradrop in voters from all over the country. Without this kmomentus effort Biden would have won anyway.
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PT6A posted:You'll want to remember that his opportunities to vote in a US election are literally zero, because he's Canadian. You're talking about Classon Ave. Robot? How many NoJoes are there that don't live in the US? There was one with a swing state tag that said they currently live in some Latin American country (they didn't specify which when I asked about it).
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Spacebump posted:You don't know me or what I do in my free time, so maybe shut the hell up. No I don't, that's why I asked you a question about what you are going to be doing in your free time?? I don't see what you're talking about here.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:A chance at taking power from the fascists in 2022 and 2024 is better than guaranteeing their victory at those dates. There is more time after 2022 than there is between 2020-2022, that's a pretty unavoidable mathematical fact. Bro you're loving stupid, read between the lines. He has consistently said that he will "listen to the scientists" and do what they recommend, and if that means shutting things down then he will do it. There won't ever need to be a situation where the ENTIRE country and economy are shut down, it would be regions with hotspots that are dealt with. His point is, you shut down the virus, and the other two become unnecessary. I think you are being willfully ignorant here.
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Grayly Squirrel posted:I think they are being overly cautious of playing into Trump's narrative. Calling it too quickly after the flip will just add fuel to the chud fire of "they wouldn't call it when Trump had a half million vote lead, but the call it as soon as Biden has a 5,000 vote lead? FRAUD!" The narrative is already set and I doubt that the timing of various network calls will have much impact on outcomes right now.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:I agree entirely, that's why I'm not advocating for accelerationism? I've said so specifically multiple times. This: Classon Ave. Robot posted:A chance at taking power from the fascists in 2022 and 2024 is better than guaranteeing their victory at those dates. is being read as textbook accelerationism.
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I guess my concern is that while I'm elated that trump lost - I choked up the moment I was assured he would lose PA - I can't help but looking at the big picture to see that the system that caused him is more entrenched than ever. Biden is practically the embodiment of racial neoliberal capitalism. I do take solace in that half of americans that voted did more or less resoundingly reject a nakedly fascist man, and that in the grand scheme of things socialism and leftism is becoming more and more accepted, even if it isn't at the top levels of power. always more work to do I suppose. Systemic change takes a long time. I will also have fun pointing out what a loser trump is to chuds.
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Proteus Jones posted:Bernie would have been crushed. I still think Bernie would've won in 2016, but this time Trump had incumbency advantage, q-cult, and (ironically) probably got a lot of support from Bernie's stimulus. That plus ~*socialisms*~ probably tips it against Bernie, yeah. Biden squeaked this out and I'm not sure another candidate would've. The real lesson here for the left seems to be that personality matters a lot more than we'd like; to sell socialism we need charismatic faces who can sell it without the "S" word. Bernie's still a hero for keeping the dream alive but he's a Eugene Debs and we need someone more like Huey Long to actually win.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:If Trump being kicked out of the white house was going to have a significant impact in MAGA dipshits doing horrible things then that'd be great, but he did not invent white supremacy or austerity, and both of those things will continue with the same consequences they've always had long after he is no longer president. Hi hello I’m the countless statistics of hate crimes, antisemitism and literal white supremacist terrorism spiking hundreds of percent over the last four years here to tell you that it matters who holds the office of the president and what they do or don’t do to embolden and inflame racists. You idiot. You loving moron. Go away. skylined! fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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skylined! posted:Really on-brand for SA for this thread to go from nail biting to infighting and threadshitting almost immediately after PA flipped. It's also on brand to make broad sweeping generalizations about a thread when it's literally just one poster who should be on everyone's ignore list anyway.
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Kale posted:Probably some have been waiting the last 3 days to do the Joe Biden rapist warmonger centrist POS that will see the rise of the competent uber fascist GOP candidate in 2024 elected in a landslide and if you disagree with me you are Nazi rape apologist war hawk routine. Even Hasan from TYT realm, knows to celebrate the end of Trump and spend some time lapping up conservative tears. There will be plenty of time to moan about Biden, but if you can't be happy that we halted the country's slide into fascism, something is wrong with you.
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berserker posted:Bro you're loving stupid, read between the lines. He has consistently said that he will "listen to the scientists" and do what they recommend, and if that means shutting things down then he will do it. There won't ever need to be a situation where the ENTIRE country and economy are shut down, it would be regions with hotspots that are dealt with. His point is, you shut down the virus, and the other two become unnecessary. I honestly can't understand why anyone would believe that "listen to the scientists" is the true line and that tweet is the lie. Biden refuses to ban fracking even though any climate scientist would call that a mandatory first step in any sane climate plan, why would he listen to them on the pandemic when it could cost his donors money?
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I wanted to believe in Bernie, but I've always thought he was a pretty dogshit speaker and campaigner. 2020 especially revealed him to be pretty gutless, and even if he won, anything less than a solid blue legislature entirely supportive of his agenda would've led to massive blowback against his politics.
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raminasi posted:This: It's not, the goal of accelerationism is revolution. That post is electoralism.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:I'm not making any claim about Trump's internal pandemic response not being garbage, I'm saying that Trump doesn't have that much of an influence on how other countries respond to the pandemic, it's really on them. There are countries who have it pretty much completely contained, Trump didn't manage to magically stop them from doing so. Sorry for my harsh response. It's an emotional day. I disagree: the CDC had an immense amount of international influence, along with several other US institutions. The US pissed away its political capital and goodwill, which made the US utterly unable to influence other countries. You're correct that many countries responded intelligently quite well on their own (and we have much to learn from them). But saying the CDC doesn't matter in international pandemics belies the positive impact it had with several other novel viruses this century. My argument is basically that the CDC is unable to have that positive impact until (unless?) it is rebuilt.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Pretty bad probably. And I say this as someone who voted for Bernie twice and honestly think he would have been the best choice for this country. On the one hand, that also means losing the cachet the word has been building among the generations who have grown up hearing all the policies that could help them described as socialism (regardless of how appropriate that actually is). On the other, well, we’re kinda out of time. Planet’s not gonna care if we get a sharp left swing in thirty years. e: that’s overstating it, things can always get worse. But y’all know what I mean. Re: the counter factual of a Sanders ticket, it seems like owning the libs was a big factor in Trump retaining and gaining votes over 2016. A Sanders nom would essentially mean both sides owning the libs. I don’t know how that would’ve shifted the outcome, but it would’ve been a very different race. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Nov 6, 2020 |
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skylined! posted:Hi hello I’m the countless statistics of hate crimes, antisomitism and literal white supremacist terrorism spiking hundreds of percent over the last four years here to tell you that it matters who holds the office of the president and what they do or don’t do to embolden and inflame racists. You idiot. You loving moron. Go away. That's been going since 2010, the GOP was out of control before Trump was president, he didn't invent the Tea Party and they're certainly not going away after he's out of office.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I still think Bernie would've won in 2016, but this time Trump had incumbency advantage, q-cult, and (ironically) probably got a lot of support from Bernie's stimulus. That plus ~*socialisms*~ probably tips it against Bernie, yeah. Biden squeaked this out and I'm not sure another candidate would've. I agree that he would have had a far better chance in 2016. I'm still mad Hilary got tapped over him.
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:If Trump being kicked out of the white house was going to have a significant impact in MAGA dipshits doing horrible things then that'd be great, but he did not invent white supremacy or austerity, and both of those things will continue with the same consequences they've always had long after he is no longer president. Good lord, it must be absolutely killing you that you’re not posting about how Bidens defeat was completely inevitable and obvious to everyone. Don’t worry, I’m sure there’ll be a facist for you to root for in some other election.
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Its ok to feel some joy https://twitter.com/EllieRushing/status/1324725533595312129?s=19
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Motto posted:I wanted to believe in Bernie, but I've always thought he was a pretty dogshit speaker and campaigner. 2020 especially revealed him to be pretty gutless, and even if he won, anything less than a solid blue legislature entirely supportive of his agenda would've led to massive blowback against his politics. In what possible way is he gutless? Who does he compare unfavourably to as a public speaker?
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Good lord, it must be absolutely killing you that you’re not posting about how Bidens defeat was completely inevitable and obvious to everyone. Don’t worry, I’m sure there’ll be a facist for you to root for in some other election. I honestly believe that Joe Biden will hand the country over to the GOP in 2022 and 2024, and that they are going to make Trump look like a milquetoast neoliberal once they've got all the power that is coming to them.
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ImpAtom posted:If you ignore the other things he has said, yes. Everything he says is a lie except for the things he says they don’t like that those things are true. Everything on his website is a lie except the things on the website they don’t like those ones are true. You’re dealing with people that literally post on a daily basis that they believe Joe Biden is so far gone mentally that he’s basically just a dude that’s wandering around lost. It’s not like that person is going to suddenly say something that has any value.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:As annoying as Chapo fans are I'm pretty sure the actual podcast grudgingly endorsed voting for Biden. This is certainly possible, but I'm only aware of it from an adjacent podcast and not really on the pulse of it. What I am sure of is that it has had a fairly large influence on a lot of SA users, firsthand or not.
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Covok posted:It's really sad that we only won because the Libertarians were so convinced of a Trump win that they voted third party. This is probably your best post in this entire thread. Feeling better today?
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Good lord, it must be absolutely killing you that you’re not posting about how Bidens defeat was completely inevitable and obvious to everyone. Don’t worry, I’m sure there’ll be a facist for you to root for in some other election. Perhaps even one in a country where he lives!
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:I honestly believe that Joe Biden will hand the country over to the GOP in 2022 and 2024, and that they are going to make Trump look like a milquetoast neoliberal once they've got all the power that is coming to them. Just like you honestly believed he would lose to Donald Trump?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:As annoying as Chapo fans are I'm pretty sure the actual podcast grudgingly endorsed voting for Biden. The Chapo stance is that voting isn’t a particularly meaningful political act.
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