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Motronic posted:For the new mandatory on-call they'll be announcing next week. Since you proved you can do your job from home might as well have you do it from the office AND at home. Efficiency! I winced because it's not even really a joke. This is absolutely what's coming in a lot of companies.
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Xguard86 posted:Almost Every recruiter reach out I get is some contract BS for a job one or two levels below where I'm at. 75% of the rando's I get on LinkedIn are for FT positions, although they're mostly at startups promising HUGE UPSIDE POTENTIAL and a good amount of equity. But I've lived through that before and I learned it's not worth it to me. The roles themselves pay fine relative to my comp expectations, it's more the practical reality/stress of helping a company figure out their business model and the pressure of if certain things you're responsible for don't pan out, they might not make payroll that month. For those randoms, I have a diplomatic 2-3 sentence response that looks polite and personalized that I just copy and paste into my LinkedIn reply to their message, archive it, and move on, taking all of 3 seconds. But then down the line if I see they're connected to someone or I find they or their company is looking to place a job for somewhere I'm intrigued by, I just c&p another semi-canned message to them of "hey, we had been in contact a little while and it wasn't the right time; I recently saw you were hiring for Job X at Company Y and that seems like a good fit." The other 25% are generally much more seasoned exec recruiters in my space - like my local go-to guy here in town has been a recruiter in the region and this sector for 28 years and knows a lot of the movers and shakers, even when they're not actively hiring. He and I talk at least once a year just to keep up with what he's seeing, potential opportunities at my company or people in my network that might be looking I can refer to him. He's gotten me several decent-to-excellent interviews, most recently a pretty good role that made me a very generous offer then 20% more, but ultimately I passed on it. This guy will often say, "I'd love to work together and place you somewhere but I'm in this for the long haul so it's ok if it's not right now. I'm sure we'll find a way to do it."
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Sounds like you're at a fairly high level. Maybe that's when the recruiters become more worth a drat? Good point on the reach out though. That prob applicable at all levels I imagine.
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The problem with recruiters is that there are A LOT of scams, between some randos in South Dakota forming a company and saying they're premiere or a bunch of outsourced recruiters all recruiting for the same 3 month contract job. My favorite is the recruiter that calls me about a job at X amount when I already have an interview lined up with the company and I know he's undercutting me by 20k. My company announced that 40-50% of our large office workforce will be remote 100% of the time, and that no one will have to actually work in the office 5 days a week again. I love this company but my HR rep hates me and I hate that I'm being pushed to leave because of it. Pillowpants fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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Last week I interviewed a guy who's primary motivation for considering working with us was equity and the possibility of an early retirement. I guess this is a bad answer in that it doesn't have enough corporate speak in it, but I know that our principal offer in our field is the equity, so fine. Just after the interview, I'm talking with another person on that interview who thought similarly about the candidate's answer. I had to break it to him that no one at our level is going to get retirement-level money from an exit, even if it is in the billions, so we can't be leading this candidate on. The other guy was astounded. He didn't know how small his share of the employee option pool is and he didn't know how small the option pool is compared to the total ownership. His payout was looking to be something like a half year's salary for every billion the company is sold for and he was expecting to get, I don't know, millions? I was pretty shocked by this, as I asked those questions before I joined on, so I have an idea of what my options would be worth (making lots of assumptions). This guy has been working 16-hour days for the past 2 years trying to muscle his way through the work that would lead to an early retirement, and I was the one to tell him that wasn't going to happen.  He wants to renegotiate, but there is zero chance he is going to get anything like what he was expecting.Anyway, in the past few months our VPs have quit or been fired, which is unfortunate because they are totally incapable and should have been fired at least a year ago when I (and many others) warned the CEO they were worse than deadweight. The only remaining member of that cabal, and the person protecting the others, has hung around. At least the consensus is now that he has to go, too. We'll see how that goes.
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Hearing a bunch of people here talk about WFH ending has me surprised that my super old school beurecratic utility company is still holding the line with not even starting to non-essential employees in the office until after Labor Day. Granted, that is just managers/supervisors and engineers. I am in real time operations, and I have been going in to the office the whole time. But that’s kinda understandable, as we need to operate inside a physical and cyber secure location. I am interviewing for a new position that will no longer be poo poo work, but within the same department. Supposedly it will be at least partial work from home once the offices open up. I am much more concerned about getting off shift than WFH, that is just a nice bonus.
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Orvin posted:poo poo work cc: Freud, Sigmund
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https://twitter.com/ImNotJK/status/1403483098004611072 I hate idiots like this
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priznat posted:https://twitter.com/ImNotJK/status/1403483098004611072 Some vc shitbag, of course she has terrible ideas and doesn't know how anything really works.
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Midjack posted:Some vc shitbag, of course she has terrible ideas and doesn't know how anything really works. The replies are pretty awesome at least! Not that it’d change the mind of someone like that.
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priznat posted:https://twitter.com/ImNotJK/status/1403483098004611072 
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Put in my 35 hours Saturday and Sunday. Not gonna be in the office this week. Winner by technicality!
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Our hybrid model is apparently that you'd be in the office 3 days a week but it can't be the same 3 days every week and you can't have the same people in at the same time every time. Immediately someone said "well how am I supposed to plan childcare if I don't know when I'm going to be at home?" and the backtrack of "oh well of course there will be special cases" begins.
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priznat posted:We had a division all-hands today and after the VP asked everyone to mute, like immediately after, someone loudly cleared their throat and then dropped their phone while a dog was going bananas in the background, lol. After about 10 minutes of begging/yelling to mute they finally figured out they could lock mute everyone. I'm 200% convinced all the execs with a hard-on for back-to-the-office are ludite boomers, incompetent at actual management, or both. Powerful Two-Hander posted:Our hybrid model is apparently that you'd be in the office 3 days a week but it can't be the same 3 days every week and you can't have the same people in at the same time every time. Immediately someone said "well how am I supposed to plan childcare if I don't know when I'm going to be at home?" and the backtrack of "oh well of course there will be special cases" begins. The last hilarious variation on this was on a project I have a side-stake on, and someone decided they needed my critically-short-supplied engineers to babysit something over the weekend. I sat there and computed the comp time they'd accrue in just 3 days and suddenly they weren't needed anymore. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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evil_bunnY posted:
"we need 24x5 coverage in all regions!" "ok well we have nobody in the US and the Japan team are short so we need two full time staff in the high cost areas and an extra half to manage them" ".... nevermind we'll just make India work late"
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priznat posted:https://twitter.com/ImNotJK/status/1403483098004611072 I did this early in my career because the economy was in shambles and I was working retail and call centers. I don't think it helped me much.
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It is an unpopular opinion, so her statement is technically correct.
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Also technically correct in that she didn't actually specify young people working to death for free is good for them. It's the best thing for wealthy capitalists though!
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priznat posted:https://twitter.com/ImNotJK/status/1403483098004611072 Positional arms race? What’s that, some kind of wrestling?
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I mean, I have a primary 6 figure job that I slack off with and do the bare minimum. I also have a small contract side gig in which I put a couple hours on the weekend and maybe an hour or 2 each day M-F for maybe 10 hours/week total. It nets me $50k/year which is being put in the market/paying down debt and I don’t plan on doing it forever, but I am doing it now so I can FIRE/fatFIRE. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I’d take a couple years of working a little on the weekends when I was younger to FIRE/fatFIRE 10 or 15 years earlier than planned. E: if the tweet was suggesting working an extra few hours on the weekend for your salaried job that you’d already clocked 40 hours during the week for,  no
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Cacafuego posted:
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I've been working at least one weekend day most of my life Still waiting for my big break
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Renegret posted:I've been working at least one weekend day most of my life It arrived the day you signed up for an account here, friend.
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Renegret posted:I've been working at least one weekend day most of my life Even in the corporate world, I find myself putting in 4-5 hours a weekend on top of 50 hrs during the workweek
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priznat posted:https://twitter.com/ImNotJK/status/1403483098004611072 Popular opinion: This person is loving dumb.
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Perfect Onion article for this thread and some good replies in the comments: https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1403483445100228614?s=21
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My long weekend (I took F/M as vacation days) has been a disaster so far. I'm seriously 30+ phone calls from work into it, and it's only Sunday. The big kicker was yesterday when someone called asking me to come in and help with a project because it was "urgent." Why was it urgent? Because she was taking next week off of work and was supposed to have the project done. She wanted me to interrupt my vacation so that she could go on hers. She's not even in my department. (She used to be and got hosed over by agreeing to transition her old projects to her replacement, who was never hired so she's doing two jobs now. That's her mistake though, not mine.) I did not go to work yesterday, let's just say.
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Why are you answering the phone on vacation?
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Honey Im Homme posted:Why are you answering the phone on vacation? Because when I didn't answer it originally, they went up the chain and then the calls started coming from Sr. Director level. :X That's the problem with the sorts of shitbags who call someone on vacation -- if they were going to be reasonable, they wouldn't have called you in the first place.
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Sundae posted:Because when I didn't answer it originally, they went up the chain and then the calls started coming from Sr. Director level. :X My boss and program management structure aren't great, but my boss would not be okay if someone was trying to reach me on PTO and it wasn't a real urgent need. Or that need couldn't be taken care of by someone not on PTO. If you're regularly running into situations where you have urgent needs from people who are on PTO that's a red flag the organization has a big bus problem, I think. But because of the nature of cost minimization and capitalism you're going to run into that a lot, unless the org is better than average about it. What if you were day drinking and drunk as hell while your sr director was calling? Inner Light fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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Inner Light posted:My boss and program management structure aren't great, but my boss would not be okay if someone was trying to reach me on PTO and it wasn't a real urgent need. Or that need couldn't be taken care of by someone not on PTO. My standard PTO was always "at the hunting cabin with no cell service" or "at a stage rally in the middle of the woods with no cell service." Sometimes that's even actually what I was doing.
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Inner Light posted:My boss and program management structure aren't great, but my boss would not be okay if someone was trying to reach me on PTO and it wasn't a real urgent need. Or that need couldn't be taken care of by someone not on PTO. The last time I took PTO (for my wife’s surgery)- the woman that worked for me with triple the experience called me 18 times in 3 days.
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Pillowpants posted:The last time I took PTO (for my wife’s surgery)- the woman that worked for me with triple the experience called me 18 times in 3 days. 
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I'm just about to switch my personal cell number because of poo poo like this and have a disposable Goog Voice or similar number for work that I can turn off and on whenever I feel like.
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Sundae posted:My long weekend (I took F/M as vacation days) has been a disaster so far. I'm seriously 30+ phone calls from work into it, and it's only Sunday. Pillowpants posted:The last time I took PTO (for my wife’s surgery)- the woman that worked for me with triple the experience called me 18 times in 3 days. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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Midjack posted:I'm just about to switch my personal cell number because of poo poo like this and have a disposable Goog Voice or similar number for work that I can turn off and on whenever I feel like. This is why my work phone is a company provided phone that is separate from my personal phone.
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This is also me.....The "Demoted Employee" ended up quitting 3 weeks after calling me 18 times in 3 days. Pillowpants posted:I need some advice. I've got a job offer on my plate at a gun company (better pay, hours, cheap guns but its not remote and the insurance is 30% more expensive) - I have to give them an answer tomorrow or Tuesday, but I am also waiting on offers from two other places) Pillowpants fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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Thomamelas posted:This is why my work phone is a company provided phone that is separate from my personal phone. Fedgov is a bunch of cheap shits who will never in a million years give you a phone because you might use it to look up directions from your hotel to a restaurant on a trip one time, and that kind of personal use of government property is strictly forbidden! 
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Midjack posted:Fedgov is a bunch of cheap shits who will never in a million years give you a phone because you might use it to look up directions from your hotel to a restaurant on a trip one time, and that kind of personal use of government property is strictly forbidden! Plenty of feds have government phones. I have one, and I'm a total nobody at my agency.
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Betazoid posted:Plenty of feds have government phones. I have one, and I'm a total nobody at my agency. Guess that's just my little part of it then. They're absolutely insane about "personal use" bullshit.
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