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Insanite posted:
Remembering things is a lockdown. Pattern recognition: oh buddy you better believe that's a lockdown.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:24 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 22:10 |
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Insanite posted:I do not think the original post was doing parasocial weirdness. felt more like, “here’s yet another person who had an unexpected and serious health event, and the language in the announcement made my brain twinge in that now familiar way.” That's something you shouldn't speculate about itt when it's with regards to the health of a random stranger or celebrity
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:26 |
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toggle posted:if someone goes to work ill with covid, infects a coworker and that person is either maimed or dies, is the infector a bio terrorist? It is misguided to blame the last individual in a long chain of infections for the consequences of a disease that has been designated normal by political authorities. There is a whole slew of public health failures behind every infection and that gets obscured when you focus the blame on individuals. For comparison would you label someone that transmits HIV a bio-terrorist or criminal and prosecute them accordingly? That makes sense if your goal is to punish people, but it's a terrible idea when trying to reduce the spread of HIV. Practically it would provide a huge disincentive for anyone to ever get tested. It would also disproportionately impact society's underclass as they're made more vulnerable to disease generally. It's the same for all infectious disease. That said going to work or a public place while sick when you didn't have to and getting other people sick makes you a jerk and the large majority of people are clear on this. But even then workers are usually expected to show up to work even if they're sick, the individual sick people aren't the problem.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:27 |
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emgeejay posted:my mother-in-law was feeling sick this week. tested positive. she’s taken many rapid tests over the years but never tested positive before.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:37 |
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Nocturtle posted:For comparison would you label someone that transmits HIV a bio-terrorist or criminal and prosecute them accordingly? That makes sense if your goal is to punish people, but it's a terrible idea when trying to reduce the spread of HIV. Practically it would provide a huge disincentive for anyone to ever get tested. It would also disproportionately impact society's underclass as they're made more vulnerable to disease generally. It's the same for all infectious disease.. if they knew about having hiv and did it on purpose, yes
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:49 |
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Gunshow Poophole posted:Remembering things is a lockdown. Pattern recognition: oh buddy you better believe that's a lockdown. pattern recognition is bad vibes. so is discourse analysis, i guess.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:50 |
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I mean, at least I don't go to work and have sex with my coworkers 12-20 times per minute
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 14:51 |
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Maed posted:if they knew about having hiv and did it on purpose, yes Reactionary conservatives agree with you and happily pass laws criminalizing transmission while defunding health services. People that actually want to mitigate community spread of infectious disease oppose such laws because they are counter productive. They make the problem worse.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 15:06 |
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when Covid was first popping off and there were government rules about masking or what fraction of capacity was allowed in a given room etc etc I was kind of hoping to see some sort of liability to companies that shirked those rules. I know my company in WA completely ignored masking requirements and the 25% of capacity, honesty even saying we were necessary was kind of questionable because most of our major contracts are gov and they were all still shut down. I agree individual liability would be a bit much but if schools or businesses etc actually got slammed for negligence when they got a bunch of people sick it would probably yield a better overall response.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 15:19 |
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PoundSand posted:when Covid was first popping off and there were government rules about masking or what fraction of capacity was allowed in a given room etc etc I was kind of hoping to see some sort of liability to companies that shirked those rules. wasn't part of the open biden rush about beating OSHA to issuing some sort of covid guidance that might've opened employers up to liability? i might be half-remembering it, but i recall that being the word at the time.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 15:22 |
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Insanite posted:wasn't part of the open biden rush about beating OSHA to issuing some sort of covid guidance that might've opened employers up to liability? Yeah there was some sort of meeting or committee vote that was actively hosed with, because if OSHA got involved there would have been trillions of dollars spent on upgrading buildings and infrastructure. Instead they did the opposite and sent kids back to schools and the money to the cops and Ukraine
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 15:25 |
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toggle posted:if someone goes to work ill with covid, infects a coworker and that person is either maimed or dies, is the infector a bio terrorist? Yes. (Knowingly.) Strep Vote has issued a correction as of 15:32 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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For reference even the CDC considers criminalizing HIV transmission to be ineffective, unscientific and outdated:quote:HIV Criminalization and Ending the HIV Epidemic in the U.S. Public health organizations are very clear in their opposition to these laws, just one example out of many from the American Academy of HIV Medicine: quote:The American Academy of HIV Medicine (AAHIVM) and its members are opposed to laws that distinguish HIV disease from other comparable diseases or that create disproportionate penalties for disclosure, exposure or transmission of HIV disease beyond normal public health ordinances. We support non-punitive prevention approaches to HIV centered on current scientific understanding and evidence-based research. Insanite posted:wasn't part of the open biden rush about beating OSHA to issuing some sort of covid guidance that might've opened employers up to liability?
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 15:56 |
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Nocturtle posted:You are absolutely correct and IMO it was one of the key events in the American COVID response. IIRC there were even some leaked draft OSHA guidelines that labeled COVID an "airborne workplace hazard" but I can't find them. Does anyone else recall this? google is useless. kagi slightly better. this might help narrow down timing: https://scrippsnews.com/stories/osha-still-undecided-on-air-quality-rules-amid-covid/ quote:OSHA is weeks behind schedule in deciding whether to issue emergency COVID standards that could include mandatory air quality rules. lol e: getting closer: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/critics-of-osha-virus-rule-urge-white-house-to-ditch-rulemaking https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/osha-covid-19-rule-intended-to-cover-all-workers-draft-shows https://aboutblaw.com/Yj6 https://twitter.com/wsbgnl/status/1525177114542080000?s=20 Insanite has issued a correction as of 16:08 on Sep 23, 2023 |
# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:05 |
first dose of Paxlovid onboard
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:07 |
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Insanite posted:
yeah if you follow this link chain you get to https://news.bloomberglaw.com/safety/covid-19-workplace-safety-rule-for-health-care-released-by-osha june 10th, where it was published to the public, and significantly edited to restrict applicability to Healthcare settings only lmfao a nice ouroboros of self-justification. Decision-based evidence-making at its finest. chef's kiss, no notes, etc blah blah
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:17 |
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Nocturtle posted:For reference even the CDC considers criminalizing HIV transmission to be ineffective, unscientific and outdated: Did I say criminalize? Yes you are a bioterrorist and you will not be punished. That's what this comes down to. Yes, it is immoral and a sin to knowingly spread disease, and you are also free to kill as many people as you like in this society as long as they are peons and you have plausible deniability.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:19 |
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what happened to Walensky
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:20 |
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Lol this is wild and worse in every way than the Trump admin’s reaction to the virus
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:21 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Lol this is wild and worse in every way than the Trump admin’s reaction to the virus
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:23 |
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euphronius posted:what happened to Walensky jesus CHRIST https://petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/resources/article/rochelle-walensky-senior-academic-fellow that particular thinktank has been publishing people like Nate Holdren etc throughout the pandemic on their blog, and has been one of the last bastions of criticism in academia lol for example: this on July 5th a degree of rhetoric that is almost totally absent otherwhere in universities Gunshow Poophole has issued a correction as of 16:27 on Sep 23, 2023 |
# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:23 |
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euphronius posted:what happened to Walensky Gunshow Poophole posted:jesus CHRIST past a certain point of power and privilege you can only fail upwards
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:25 |
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tbf she was already on faculty back in 2020 when she was appointed to the CDC so it's more like failing back to baseline
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:26 |
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euphronius posted:what happened to Walensky https://apnews.com/article/cdc-director-walensky-resigns-d0755409e7c0934e14b212589ce388b9# posted:Walensky’s last day at CDC is June 30. She does not have a new job or other role lined up, she said, saying she wanted to spend some time with her family, living at a slower pace. edit: oh dang looks like there’s a new job now after all
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:31 |
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these fuckers lol
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:44 |
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Gunshow Poophole posted:tbf she was already on faculty back in 2020 when she was appointed to the CDC so it's more like failing back to baseline she was at harvard medical (decent grift, but some amount of science kayfabe is still required at times) now she's jointly at harvard's kennedy school of government (!), harvard law (!!) and business school (!!!). fuckin that is how you grift.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:55 |
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i know folks here think that the biden government is acting maliciously with making decisions like keeping schools open and not enacting mask mandates but have you considered that its election season and also covid is over? maybe humble you're selfs.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:56 |
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Too Many Birds posted:i know folks here think that the biden government is acting maliciously with making decisions like keeping schools open and not enacting mask mandates roevid is joever
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 16:57 |
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oh and it is important for those of you with brains not-broken-enough to be familiar with the apocrypha of academia, the titles of her new affiliations: "Senior Academic Fellow" (Harvard Law); "Research Fellow" (Kennedy School of Government); and "Executive Fellow" (Harvard Biz) means that between the three she'll probably clear north of a million a year to do absolutely loving nothing. They'll have her give a talk or three, but she'll charge for those.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:00 |
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in some better news. my friend i was worried about not taking pax texted me last night after my post and said they are actually going to start the pax because their symptoms were getting worse. maybe it was synchronicity, maybe they still have an account on SA and saw my post, who knows. just glad they changed their mind.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:01 |
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:if you don’t mind looking silly, Blox duckbills are N95 and I find them more comfortable than the Auras. also, they are dirt cheap now. Thanks for this, I got a few to test out and having had to actually use them at home nearly non-stop I find them generally more comfortable than Auras. On one hand they seal under the chin better than Auras, which dislodge when moving my jaw. On the other hand, the more flexible nose clip makes the Blox mask easier to pull down off your nose, which isn't normally a problem except when I was trying to sleep in it. I think I'll stick to a bifold KN95 when sleeping next time.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:06 |
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cvs canceled my appointment because they didn’t have enough doses.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:10 |
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Friend was going to her booster from a school based event with the flu shot and such and they got no doses and cancelled. Incredible supply chain we got here.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:15 |
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captainbananas posted:oh and it is important for those of you with brains not-broken-enough to be familiar with the apocrypha of academia, the titles of her new affiliations: And the people who have captured our government are so filthy rich that paying this lady off like this for manufacturing consent for a year is like buying a cup of coffee to them.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:19 |
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Look, kids with a deadly, disabling vascular disease that's also the most transmissible disease in history need to be in school, their mental health and social development would be irreparably harmed without getting screamed at to stop talking by a teacher currently being disabled by that disease.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:32 |
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/09/23/covid-vaccine-insurance-denials-cancellations/70918394007/ posted:COVID vaccine rollout snarled by insurance denials, canceled appointments
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:50 |
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me, a leopard: well I never thought the leopard would eat MY face
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:56 |
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waiting another business day or two to see if i can ferret out any other novavax details, but i'd be waiting anyway. can't find shots for my family and me, anyway. owns.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 17:56 |
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I’ve got my booster appointment this afternoon, so here’s hoping all goes well. except for the fact that I slept, ehhhh last night, so now I get to weigh maybe a worse immune response with being able to find another appointment in who-knows-when since everything is booked up An incredible system we’ve built. edit: whelp I have Blue Cross insurance so … lol CoasterMaster has issued a correction as of 18:03 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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24%
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