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I just received an ASUS PB278Q this week, and maybe my old TN monitor was just a turd or LCD tech has come a long way in three years, but everything about this monitor is better. Far better color reproduction (lots of "oh, those are different colors" moments this week), even better responsiveness, etc. I feel close to how my last CRT monitor looked, minus the distortion. One thing that bugs me, though, is that different sources list this as either IPS or PLS. It isn't important, just weird. How much of a video card upgrade will I have to make to push games at 2560x1440, though? Currently running a Radeon 6870 with 1GiB and a big overclock, it just can't cut it. Skyrim and Tribes just kill it, 30fps at best.
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Slark posted:ASUS PB278Q is great, it's also quite pricey as well. It's competing with other 27" 2560x1440 IPS/PLS monitors and is actually at the low end of that category. Some of them go for >$1000.
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Dec 13, 2012 01:56
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The U2711 is a wide-gamut monitor. Don't get it unless you do work that needs that capability.
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Dec 21, 2012 20:20
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89 posted:My graphics card only supports two monitors at a time. I have have my main monitor hooked up via DVI. And then, my Panasonic HDTV is hooked up via HDMI for when I want to use XBMC. However, I'd like to add another display without messing up anything and without buying another graphics card. Is there some kind of swapper I can use or some kind of box I can hook up so I can make my HDTV the secondary display only when I need it and just turn off the secondary monitor? I've got an onboard video card that is made into the computer. There are hdmi switchers, both passive and active.
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Dec 27, 2012 07:09
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Ghostpilot posted:If you hate your AG-coating and have balls of steel, give this guide a try. So he found a way to make an expensive mirror that you can occasionally see a computer display on?
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Dec 29, 2012 16:11
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89 posted:My HDTV has to run at 30hz and I need my monitor at 59hz, so splitting that isn't gonna work. A switcher is just a box that lets you toggle which device is connected to the single HDMI output so you don't have to physically change them. Unless you want to put in another display adapter you are limited to this.
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Dec 30, 2012 01:16
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kiresays posted:Having trouble deciding between a TV and using it as a TV/monitor or a nice big monitor. I already have a computer monitor, so this would be my main screen and my current would move to secondary screen. Apart from the crapshoot of TVs tending to fudge images a bit to reduce aliasing (and many sets not allowing the user to disable it) and never getting the colors quite right when using a TV as a monitor and vice-versa?
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Jan 7, 2013 02:41
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Dr. Lenin posted:What's the best way to search for dead pixels on an IPS monitor? Just toss up a full screen pure white image and look really closely? You need a full white, black, and probably red, green, and blue.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:17
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Hemish posted:Hey I just got U2412M and that was the first thing I noticed. I pushed the monitor back a bit but it's annoying. I'll probably get used to it as the colors are much better than my old monitor so it's easier to swallow the pill. That was my same thought when I switch from some no-name TN monitor to my current PLS monitor: it's annoying but not nearly as bad as the obvious and bad dithering.
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Jan 9, 2013 04:47
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zer0spunk posted:Sharp shows off 32" 4k Monitors. Wonder if you would need something like dual-link DisplayPort to drive one at 60hz 
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Jan 9, 2013 06:40
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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:We need 48-60hz movies/blurays way sooner than we need anything more than 1920x1080. I'd rather have cheap high-resolution monitors. Just think, we might start to see movies commercially available in 4K, if only we had displays capable of it! 
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Jan 9, 2013 19:38
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Chafe posted:The problem with the U2412M is reverse ghosting. It has nothing to do with response time, it has to do with Dell screwing up the overdrive settings in the same way BenQ ruins every single monitor they make with awful gamma presets and extremely aggressive overdrive. the ASUS PB278Q (PLS, but it's pretty similar performance to IPS) has a slightly over-aggressive overdrive too. I wouldn't say it's extreme, but noticeable if you are tracking a moving object without moving the viewpoint in a game.
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Jan 11, 2013 18:14
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existential anger posted:All higher end Asus monitors tend to have something called trace-free, which gives you 5 different overdrive settings of varying aggressiveness. If you set trace-free to 40, there shouldn't be any reverse ghosting. In fact, its pretty much the best performance going you're going to get from a 60hz monitor. I hadn't thought to even mess with that setting  or read the manual, just went through color calibration.
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Jan 12, 2013 06:03
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Kilazar posted:I am looking at a PC refresh for my wife and I. And was thinking of buying the recomended Asus VG236H. But I don't see any that actually advertise that these are 120mhz refresh. Here are Newegg's 120Hz monitors: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...h=1&srchInDesc= Why is 120Hz the important factor for you? These monitors are all TN panels and doomed to terrible viewing angles and color reproduction; unless you're a twitch-shooter gamer I can't see a good reason to absolutely only get a 120Hz monitor.
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Jan 16, 2013 22:26
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Is having a 120Hz monitor enough to view Blu-rays at 24fps or is there still some pulldown dickery involved? Theoretically, each frame of the 24fps movie would be displayed 5 times at 120Hz. Factory Factory posted:Screen tearing is a GPU-side problem, involving vsync and buffering methods. Turn on Vsync. Yeah, unless you have Vsync on (you may have to force it in driver settings to actually make it work, some games try to implement their own bullshit Vsync that doesn't actually work), you will have tearing. Depending on how lovely the game you are playing is, it may or may not actually use triple-buffering and you'll get a framerate hit if your machine can't render frames fast enough. Solution: buy a really badass PC. Making it worse: buying a 2560x1440 monitor  .Dr. Lenin posted:So, while waiting for my replacement u2412m to arrive (Best Buy's customer service is great, ya'lls) I read some past pages in this thread. Saw someone mention that if you are sensitive to low PWM you might have a problem with this monitor. Curious if anyone has a layman's definition of what that is and what you would feel if you are sensitive to it, as I did feel some initial nausea when using the monitor but I couldn't tell if was just from the change in size and really high brightness. PWM brightness control means that instead of reducing the continuous brightness of the backlight, the backlight is flickered at 100% to reduce light output. Depending on the frequency of pulses, some people experience eye strain, headaches, and nausea. You can test if it is causing you problems by turning up the brightness all the way and comparing to the reduced brightness setting. EightBit fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jan 17, 2013 |
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Jan 17, 2013 00:38
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existential anger posted:That's definitely not true. IPS' main selling point is gamma stability/lack of gamma shift, something TN panels obviously have trouble with. If you don't notice the gamma shift, which can be difficult in movies and games, then there's no reason to believe that IPS monitors will have significantly better colour reproduction than "high end" TN monitors. Poor factory calibration aside, you can't calibrate around a 6-bit panel. I also find the idea that a lovely cheap TN panel would have more effort put into the electronics, kinda shaky; TN panels compete on cheapness, trying to improve the dog-poo poo color reproduction by increasing the cost will basically mean that your display won't sell (people that care about that don't buy TN panels). Take a good IPS panel, calibrate it, look at all the nice colors, the subtlety of gradients, good subpixel font anti-aliasing. Then turn the color mode on your desktop to 16-bit. TN panels are only slightly better looking than that due to an extra bit on the red and blue channels, and temporal color dithering. The reason I sucked it up and shelled out for a big loving IPS monitor is that I was tired of seeing the effects of dithering and lovely viewing angles, something that TN panels are basically always going to have. Having a wider contrast ratio and black depth is also not really as strong a point for TN panels as it seems at first, as the darker colors are going to be ruined by the downsampling forced by TN panels; it's just a simple matter of the digital math involved and darks being the least-significant bits, boom lost in quantization noise when it gets translated to fewer bits.
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Jan 18, 2013 10:27
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Heran Bago posted:In Team Fortress 2 I get high frames per second most always above 120 but the tearing is awful. For this particular game though turning on Vsync creates input lag, and turning on fps limiting creates jittering. I've always had good results turning on vsync on Source-engine games, but I also use ATI because every Nvidia card I've ever purchased was a failure to have any real functionality or image quality sacrificed for XTREME FEEPS.
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Jan 22, 2013 19:33
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evensevenone posted:In the 90s IBM or Toshiba or someone sold a laptop that didn't have top polarizer layer. You could only see the screen if you wore the accompanying polarized glasses. You can modify many LCD screens to work like that by simply removing the top polarizer. How successfully you can put it back together varies with the model, and you have to deal with wearing polarized sunglasses to see it.
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Jan 26, 2013 22:54
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Red Robin Hood posted:Do you connect with HDMI or VGA? My TV has a "PC in" which is VGA but my video card does not have VGA (two DVI and an mini HDMI). I've got it hooked up via HDMI -> DVI right now but I cannot get it to fit correctly. It is either too large for the screen and stretched past the edges or barely not large enough on the bottom only but perfect on the sides... See if your tv has a setting for overscan or full pixel display (lots of cheap ones don't, most tvs by default zoom the image in a bit to hide OTA/cable flaws) before you try to use a VGA connection.
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Feb 13, 2013 00:21
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dissss posted:Auto tuning when using VGA seems to work best when there is a load of small text on screen This is very good advice that you don't want to miss out on. Give the auto-adjust a bunch of sharp color transitions to chew on for best results.
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Feb 18, 2013 09:03
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please respond posted:Yeah I suppose it is, I wish I would have realized this. I just assumed monitor technology would have advanced more I guess, this is a definite step down. It would certainly be easier to tell if we had the model numbers. For all we know your Dell monitor is a TN too and just set to a warmer profile. And most monitors come with the brightness set to burn your eyeballs out for some loving reason, turn the brightness down and set the monitor's color temperature closer to 6500K.
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Feb 21, 2013 06:16
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In regards to 2560x1440 gaming, my Radeon 6870 is holding up ok-ish to it, as long as I don't try to pump the graphics settings all the way up in Tribes. I'm looking at a 7970 and kinda haven't worked up the balls to buy a $400 video card yet.
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Mar 1, 2013 01:06
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Fauxtool posted:I have a 7970 and I game at 5760x1200 Arma 2 (for DayZ) puts so much geometry up on the screen with such crazy draw distances that it easily bogs down my current card (6870). Console ports all play fine, because, you know, they're console ports and have poo poo textures and scenes that are designed to limit the amount of geometry present.
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Mar 1, 2013 03:04
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sethsez posted:Arma 2 is a lovely engine held together with duct tape and hope. It can do some nice things but I wouldn't use it as your benchmark. Arma 2 may be a lovely engine, but it's a significant chunk of my playing time, and you need the crazy draw distances to actually snipe people. Crysis is a pretty old game, BF3 uses lots of the same tricks that console games do to limit drawing distance and still faces framerate chugging at 2560x1440 and full settings. I wonder what "plays fine" to you means, because a game like BF3 doesn't "play fine" unless it's pinned at 60 fps (or whatever your refresh rate of choice is).
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Mar 1, 2013 05:11
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Ika posted:So, my new dell 27" died after 7 weeks or so, it just went pop and lost power. Speak English with the people in India? They probably do much better with that, even if you have a bit of a language barrier speaking English.
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Mar 1, 2013 21:47
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Thoom posted:DisplayPort can, but I'm pretty sure DVI can't and I couldn't find any active miniDP->HDMI adapters. DVI->HDMI with the specific adapter your card probably came with usually gets the audio included, but it can be a crapshoot.
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Mar 2, 2013 05:42
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teraflame posted:Does anyone else have trouble calibrating the korean monitors? I tried multiple times with a Spyder 3 Elite but my 27" is always slightly more red/warm with green cast in shadows than my dell 22". Same settings at 6500k, 2.2 gamma, and 90 luminance. Korean monitor is LED while the other is based on CCFL, could that be the problem? Gamma is more complicated than just a single number. The sRGB colorspace has a more linear gamma near black that becomes logarithmic near the mid tones, and isn't even consistent across each channel. 2.2 is the average, but how close an individual monitor comes is going to vary, unless you shell out for expensive professional displays that have more calibration options. The different backlight technologies aren't helping either. Calibrating two monitors of the same model can be tedious, across brands is usually an effort to get them close and just say "gently caress it" because they have different gamma ramps internally and will never ever look the same.
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Mar 3, 2013 05:05
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necrobobsledder posted:Just a (probably a reminder) note for anyone else that's trying to use miniDisplayport or Displayport outputs that a lot of cables out there are not VESA compliant and connect pin 20 to 3.3V which oftentimes causes sync issues, may result in difficulty resuming a monitor from sleep mode, and could even damage your Displayport connection. Could this be why my video drivers sometimes think that my monitor is 1920x1080 instead of 2560x1440? I'm using the cable that came with my ASUS PB278Q. 
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Mar 5, 2013 22:59
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necrobobsledder posted:Uh, I think that's a separate issue from the active pin 20 problem but I can't say that it's not possible either. 1920x1080 (or 1920x1200, can't remember) is a max negotiated resolution / bandwidth rating for single-link DVI and for earlier displayport versions when unable to negotiate max speeds. But if you say that this happens "sometimes" it would be consistent with the problems that can happen with bad signal sync from that pin being active (the behavior if that's active is basically undefined). Regardless, I'd try to use a solidly reputed cable with nobody mentioning a sleep / DCC problem among reviews. Yeah, when it happens, a quick power cycle or two gets it straightened out. I have no idea what the reee board is though; I'm not the only person using this pseudonym, I can't get it in just about any common game and have no idea how I snagged it here.
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Mar 6, 2013 01:28
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Jymmybob posted:I bought an Asus VG278HE and the included DVI cable wouldn't let the monitor work in dual-link mode at any refresh or resolution without heavy artifacting or connection errors. I bought an actual good cable and haven't had an issue since (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001PFQAI). I was asking about the reported DisplayPort cable garbage, I have yet to try dual-link DVI, but 
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Mar 12, 2013 04:39
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If you're really set on 27" a 1920x1080 screen is probably going to be pretty grainy looking. 2560x1440(or 1600) is probably going to look much better at that size. Tastes (and eyesight) vary, so try to see a 27" 1920x1080 display in person first. You probably won't find any brick and mortar stores with a 2560x1440 on display, much less in the store, unless it's an Apple shop.
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Mar 19, 2013 07:03
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Elentor posted:BenQ make some famous high-end gaming monitors. They're basically the huge "name" when it comes down to e-sports and are fairly famous among e-sports players. BenQ also has the most aggressive LCD overdrive on the planet and the only one I've seen had pre-ghosting in spades  .
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Mar 21, 2013 01:11
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Coredump posted:Text scaling on windows 7 at least is very clumsy. If you set the dpi up to 150% then the search box in iTunes get messed up for one very specific example. Then with these forums the text becomes hard to read without either zooming in or specifying a larger font in the browser. And when you specify a larger default font all kinds of little oddities pop up everywhere. So sometimes its just nice to have a nice big screen at 1080p. I guess you could specify a non native resolution for a 1440 monitor and hope its not too blurry. You'd think the people that really pushed high-DPI displays and interfaces that can respond well to that environment would be able to make that work outside of their own little garden. It's doable in Windows, it's just not the default way most controls render themselves.
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Mar 27, 2013 21:59
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incoherent posted:Hey guys, display fusion is on sale on steam (yeah, steam) for 22 bucks. If you have it already, they said they're looking at getting end users steamkeys to migrate them. No ETA tho. What good does it do over just the built-in OS stuff?
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Apr 2, 2013 03:48
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A Violence Gang posted:I think my 10-year-old CRT is giving up the ghost so I'm ready to upgrade. My video card is a 512MB 4850 recommended in the parts thread when I built my PC three years ago, and I'm still perfectly happy with how it performs at 1600x1200 -- I game but I don't care about ultra-high settings. I understand I'll probably need to upgrade that in the near future to keep up with contemporary games, but when I do I'll likely just be getting the modest but capable equivalent of the day. I gamed with a 4850 at 1920x1080 for a few years with no serious issues. The workload is similar to 1600x1200 (less than 10% more pixels to process), so if you are happy with your performance now, you don't need to upgrade your video card.
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Apr 10, 2013 05:14
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fookolt posted:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...E60UX0.OfRhApSg It says that the refresh rate is 120Hz, but you won't be getting 4K resolution at anything higher than 24fps on the inputs it has. Wonder why it's so cheap  ?
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Apr 11, 2013 08:32
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Dr. Lenin posted:Soooo, is it pretty much accepted with the U2412M (or all IPS monitors?) that you're going to get at least some backlight bleed no matter what? IPS glow is a near certainty, and can be difficult to tell from backlight bleed. Backlight bleed is always there, IPS glow goes away if you scoot back a few inches.
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Apr 17, 2013 03:40
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Comatoast posted:I'd like to post a couter point to everyone saying that the larger high-res screens are the bees knees. I found them to be quite the opposite. I can only look at or concentrate on a few square inches of the screen at a time. The rest of the space sites idle, while my eyes move somewhere else. So, even if I'm able to fill that space with useful information its a wash to my brain. Alt tabbing or scrolling is no big deal next to the extra strain on my poor eyeballs from all the excess light. 27" is much too large for a monitor. 21" is about right. I can't wait for high-res screens in a smaller form factor and resolution independent everything. This is also subjective, I'd rather just turn my eyes than try to alt-tab between a myriad of windows, and many of them are stacked already due to not needing them at the same time etc.
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Apr 23, 2013 03:19
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KingEup posted:99% of the time. It takes much more light to make the anti-glare/matte screens unreadable, to be fair.
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el_caballo posted:My office is pretty dark, so I'm not sure if I care about glossy or matte. Even in a dark room, glossy monitors are backlit, expensive mirrors. Unless you like looking at yourself glowing like a ghost, you should avoid a glossy monitor.
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