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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Contract changes like that are basically the Dave Matthews songs of mobile contracts. To some people it seems innocuous (Oh they just want to save you money automatically) but most of the time when it starts happening you know someone who went to business school is looking to gently caress someone.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Medullah posted:

Anyone else having issues with Sprint internet? Mines been non-existant for about 2 hours, in Detroit, 4G.

Mine was nonexistent for 2 years in Omaha, NE.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Biodome posted:

They don't credit you for it.

Well it's more like they don't credit as a line item or anything, they just take the old phone in exchange for the new one. They probably plan on reselling the phones as used in various conditions to recoup whatever cost they're incurring if any.

I wonder if they dock you for damage/wear to the phone. What if you bring in the phone with a broken screen or loose charging port? Scratches/chips/scuffs on the body? What about TEP? Included (a la Jump) or required but paid separately?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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ryanbruce posted:

To be fair, I would place it along the same line as leasing a new car. You get the new hotness every X period, but you're paying a premium for it.

This is a pretty good analogy - leasing a car basically mandates a down payment as well as monthly payments for the term, then you bring the car back and 'trade it in' for a new car at a massive loss to you since those payments were not equity and the car's trade-in value is not being applied to anything. You're basically renting a car but even more expensively if you include the downpayment. Most of these phone plans are nearly identical - you pay a down payment plus monthly payments for a year, then you give the phone back and start all over again from square one. You build up no equity, which is something even those rent-to-own places (which are basically the same predators as payday loan outfits) grant you to some degree.

And if you have a worse deal than goddamn rent-to-own places it's a real poo poo sandwich.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Sprint Megathread: An inexplicably self-sustaining clusterfuck of infinite depth.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Sprint Megathread: It's a real pain going anywhere where there's no wifi

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Cmdr. Shepard posted:

I don't get the Samsung hate. The GS3 is the best phone I've ever owned. I'm big on custom ROMs and rooting, but the GS3 is the first phone I've used where I didn't need to root it and install a rom just to get it to function and do the things a phone should do. It just works and does everything I need with only a few very minor hiccups.

I think a lot of it is leftover nightmares with the owners of the Moment and the original GS series. I had a Sprint Galaxy S Epic 4G :haw: that was on Eclair until other phones were rolling out with GB. The Moment was a disaster of a phone, it had all sorts of crash issues and hardware failures. The GS2 was sort of a lesson learned by Samsung and each iteration since has been better than the last. It's easy to grant them that, but the phones are cheaply constructed and people are probably getting weary of Touchwhiz like they did with Sense. It's acceptable to augment a janky UI with something like that if the UI is a blindingly awful pre-ICS version, but ever since Google got Mathias Duarte (I think that's the guy, with the crazy shirts and the Pre UI) on board there has been no reason to engage in visual fuckery with the launcher. The user can implement their 'I keep my shitter bloody' personal touch as needed.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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EbolaIvory posted:

You still come out ahead. And craigslist is a good way to dodge PayPal fees and poo poo. You'll get 500+ .

Also possibly mugged.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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EbolaIvory posted:

Yes because meeting someone at a populated store is hard?

This is a way to avoid getting mugged while in/near the store. I said possibly, which leaves non-store venues as equally valid options, albeit inferior to meeting in a sprint store in broad daylight with a friend or two.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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FlyingCheese posted:

Edit: and I thought there really isn't a reason to turn on that security. I was under the impression that everything going through the airrave is VPN'ed to Sprints network. I know when I do a bandwidth test it shows the nearest servers near Sprint HQ. And really, the amount of bandwidth that thing uses is pretty minimal. I haven't ever noticed a slowdown while someone was talking on the phone, though it might be more noticeable on a lovely DSL connection or something.

If it used too much bandwidth someone might get the wrong idea about Sprint's network.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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The Bananana posted:

So my S4 got an android update yesterday morning, and it broke my Google wallet. Wallet's NFC touch and pay no longer works. No light. No error message. Nothing. Called sprint and Google and neither knew what I was talking about. Solution?

Try resetting the app (I think it may be 'switch user' now) and see if you can set it up again. Alternatively see if someone else's account works on it. You don't have to set their account up with everything, you can just sign in from wallet. If you didn't change anything and aren't rooting/flashing then it's almost certainly an account issue. I had a similar tie-up where I had multiple devices listed on the website as waiting to wipe, which was loving up the whole thing. They cleared that stuff out and it was good as new.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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The Bananana posted:

Already reset the app. Already uninstalled and reinstalled. Already cleared data and cache. Already talked to Google tech support. Already called sprint and went to a sprint store.

No one understands that it's a problem with the app. It has to be. The app worked fine for months now, and then Saturday morning I get an OS update, and bam! The wallet app no longer seems to sense touch and pay stations.

I can still make online purchases with wallet.

It's the app. The app got broken by the OS update. There are a couple complaints recently in wallets review section on play too, so it's not isolated.

(Sorry, thinking about this now, maybe I should post this in the app thread?)

This happened to me too, online purchases being OK and all, but with a different phone (Galaxy S, and a Galaxy Nexus). I had to keep hammering away at support before they unfucked things on the backend. I'm wondering if the update hosed things up in the same way for a bunch of people.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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r0ck0 posted:

I ordered the nexus 5 from the google play store last night. Says it will ship in 2-3 weeks. Can't wait to ditch sprint! Any suggestion on a cheap pay as you go plan. Looking for 2gb high speed data and low mins and texts. Thinking of straight talk, any better plans?

I had a sprint galaxy nexus and never had a problem with the stock exchange app, always connected and sync'd just fine. That is when my poo poo data connection worked.

Try Straight Talk or Aio. They both use ATT, while ST can also use T-Mobile.

If you live in a major coastal city and really don't use many minutes or SMS (like next to none) you could try T-Mobile's really cheap plan. I am not up to snuff but you could ask the T-mo thread.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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McPhearson posted:

My only real complaint about it so far is the microphone being on the bottom. I talk kinda light so a lot of people complain they can't hear me until I turn the phone on its side and talk directly into it. Other than that the phone is pretty awesome.

Many phones have their mic conveniently placed so that it can be covered by a pinky finger when held to the ear. I covered the mic on phones up like that for a long time until I saw the problem in a mirror and now I'm paranoid about it.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Duckman2008 posted:

Isn't this wireless in general?

If it isn't an error, I would def agree that it was a cross upgrade.

I would argue it's the 'sales guy' mindset that does a lot of the shady poo poo either through malicious shadiness or just ignorant stupidity, but store sales reps don't set policies for service contracts or train phone reps in soft skills.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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CombatCupcake posted:

So whats the current consensus on these 2 things:

Upgrading from HTC EVO LTE. Galaxy s4, HTC One, or Nexus 5?

Seemed a lot of people are jumping the boat on Sprint. I have Sero Premium, is it not the best plan in the land anymore?

It is significantly dependent on your location and usage. If you use under 2gb of data you can probably get a comparable price with one of the GSM MVNOs. Aio is an ATT one and costs $55/mo (fees and tax inclusive) for 2GB HSPA+/LTE and unlimited talk/text. After that it's throttled to "a little better than Sprint 3G speed" unless you want to pay $10 for an extra gig.

Ting (if you're happy with Sprint's service but want to see if you can bring the bill down) has a closely metered billing for usage so if you aren't a big ol' power user you could save some serious money. I think I had my bill down to $35 or so, but it was all sprint 3G which I consider bad enough that I should be paid to deal with.

T-Mo (again if you live/work in their coverage toeprint) is pretty much the best bang for buck if you're looking for an equilibrium between price, speed, and carrier perks. You'll pay more (I think $70 for unlimited H+/LTE data and some amount of minutes) but it's not under contract and it has decent speeds.

TLDR: Check the prepaid carriers thread.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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CombatCupcake posted:

Thanks guys.
Service hasnt been too bad. Speed hasnt been amazing, even when it says 4g. But I'm also not spending hours on the web using it. I also get wifi in most places I'm at.

I'm in NYC if anyone knows about their upgrades here.

Yeah, if you're in NYC you really could do better than Sprint, even on SERO Premium. I assume you are paying $50/mo before taxes and fees, right?

I'd recommend first check to see how much data you actually use on a monthly basis. Just to be safe, add 10-20% to that and look around to see what is offered. You probably pay $60ish total (unless you're on a family plan, I don't even know if SERO does those). If you're a pretty low user of talk and texts (say under 100 mins/100 SMS/MMS monthly) and use under 1GB of mobile data you could go to Ting, keeping your phone and your number, and pay $36 monthly. Less than 500MB if data and your bill comes down to $25 monthly (before tax/fees).

Basically, Sprint's a good deal if you don't need high speeds but need lots of data. Otherwise you're overpaying - possibly significantly.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Stick100 posted:

I don't know NV will have LTE on the one band done by the end of the year and Spark should be deployed in most of the network by the end of the year so there could be some VoLTE with CDMA/GSM fallback phones in late 2014. Softbank throwing money at could only help.

I hope Sprint can leapfrog years of pitiful network performance, but they finally are in a position to do so (once they get NV/Spark deployed).

Once they get to a point where manufacturers don't have to offer them special snowflake cripplemods of hardware they'll be golden.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Add me and my girlfriend to the 'no problems with Hangouts' list. That's a Nexus 5 on Aio and a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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bobula posted:

Cause it's a cheaper!! I'm doing good with mine, but then I don't put music on my phone.

But WHAT IF, MAN.

WHAT IF YOU GET STUCK IN AN AIRPORT FOR SEVENTEEN HOURS AND FOR SOME REASON CAN'T CONNECT TO ANY WI-FI

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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td4guy posted:

Or what if Sprint 3G can only provide you with 100kbps so you can't really stream music?



Just saying. It alleviates the need to pay extra every time you get a new phone.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Allaniis posted:

Doesn't work too well if you want to use Google Play All Access.

Everyone wonders why some people like more storage, internal or SD. Then they see Sprint speeds.

Then you have to let the app connect to Google due to the DRM, right?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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datajosh posted:

I hope they put Legere in charge.

This ain't happening, it's a good idea.

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Jun 2, 2005

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Stick100 posted:

Keep in mind Sprint is now owned by a giant GSM carrier that acts like a dumb pipe. The TMo business model is far more compatible with Softbank than Sprints.

That's lovely but if Softbank had that kind of control Sprint probably would be less of a flaming wreck than it had gotten to be. Half my family has practically disowned me after I convinced them to go from Verizon to Sprint and get smart phones, only recently allayed by the fact that I managed to have them talk/guilt the CSRs they spoke with into letting them out early to move to Ting (after some $1500 in phone purchases they wanted to get the use out of them) which is no better speed/service consistency but at least the pricing is less rapey.

My girlfriend's on Sprint and her phone spontaneously and secretly shuts off the internet connection. Seriously, pages just up and tell her to connect to the internet. She got LTE a total of 2x, both were as we were driving past a dead and empty mall.

Softbank probably thought Sprint was worth money because of NV. That took longer and is far spottier than initially assumed. It's 2014 and they're still wrangling new LTE markets rather than improving on a nationwide one as was promised and maybe even intended. God only knows why they are eyeing T-Mobile but their (Sprint's track record does not) track record is a loving joke.

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Jun 2, 2005

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datajosh posted:

Softbank definitely has that kind of control but the merger was only completed six months ago. I keep hoping improvements are coming but the hope does dwindle a little more every day.

I guess I lost all hope back when they hosed up updating every phone they put out, such as the Epic 4G and the Evo 3D.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Duckman2008 posted:

Sprint is the new tmobile that can't decide what the gently caress to do and is changing plans every 6 months to see what works. Tmobile did that for like 2 years until finally settling on their current plans.

Seeing Hesse turn into a sailor-cussin' party-crashin' :iceburn:-droppin' Legere-style disruptive CEO would be interesting.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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TVs Ian posted:

I didn't say it was a good idea. But when Framily first came out, the unlimited data didn't have the lifetime guarantee like the My Way plans (it changed a few days later), and they've been telling us for months that if people aren't on a guaranteed plan like that they'll lose it. So at some point all the people on the old Everything Data plans are going to lose unlimited and probably won't have a way to get it back.

Our Sprint corporate rep blames it all on Softbank.

Yeah, unlimited data combined with a larger footprint than T-Mobile is basically the only draw Sprint has. It isn't faster, it's CDMA, it's not really cheaper, and Sprint just keeps sitting on their balls when it comes to NV.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Not to mention their throttled speed is broadly comparable to Sprint's 3G. Sure, you'll find a speed test here and there saying someone gets 1.2 megs on Sprint 3G, but that's down the street from an NV upgraded tower in the middle of the night.

E: and if I recall there's a $70 plan with actual unlimited LTE data.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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e.pilot posted:

Holy mother of gently caress Sprint is useless in downtown Denver.

Three words too long.

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Jun 2, 2005

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yellowjournalism posted:

loving great, I was JUST about to man up and bail, after years and years of promises and lovely service and reception, and... I see this Spark thing.

I live in Albany, CA, just north of Berkeley, and have poo poo speeds and reliability all over the Bay Area. If I ditch my SERO plan now, am I just going to experience bitter, bitter regret as Spark rolls out and flaunts 1GB/s in my face at the end of the year/next year?


I just realized this is the 7th year I've said "end of the year/next year" :negative:

Think of Spark as Premier Gold WiMax Network Vision nationwide LTE the next letdown.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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e.pilot posted:

Interesting, how well would a sprint 5S work on their network?

Should work just fine as long as it isn't stolen or carrier-locked.

The whole single-SKU manufacturing process is something that's thankfully catching on. It makes updates consistent, private selling easier, and switching carriers a question of unlocking rather than hardware. I imagine it's cheaper for OEMs so it means they WANT to do it, snowflake variants at the behest of carriers be damned.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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ceebee posted:

Just preordered my Galaxy S5. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus. I can't wait to ditch this stupid piece of poo poo that dies within 2 hours.

Any tips for a new S5 owner?

Hold onto your butt(s) is the advice I'm giving. You're leaping forward a good three years, from a phone with a poo poo camera, screen-door pentile display, bulk, etc, etc, to a phone with pretty much the cutting edge on all of that.

And if you gripe about something and someone gets all :corsair: Louis CK :corsair: on you, tell'em to gently caress off.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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goku chewbacca posted:

Any Sprint goons have a membership over at S4GRU.com that has expired after the initial 6 months?

I made a "donation" 6 months ago to join, probably ~$10. I received notification today that my membership has expired, and I would need to make another donation to remain a Sponsor Member. For only $60 (if received by April 26:rolleyes:), I could get Premier Sponsor status and a complimentary Asperger diagnosis from the forum doctor.

Immediately I PayPaled the Owner/Administrator another few bucks, and got this gem of a response:


I've never paid for a forum membership other than the :10bux:+Platinum I PayPaled to Lowtax more a decade ago. At least I got to see him get his rear end kicked by Ewe Boll.

Is it against Paypal's policy to solicit mandatory payments for goods/services while referring to them as Donations with a PayPal "Donate" button? Is he doing so to get out of paying fees on those donations, or having to declare the payments as income for tax purposes?

If someone's trying to take payments but call them donations you should probably tell PayPal. Their special charity rate is still only for legit provable 501(c)(3) orgs but it's still pretty sketchy to basically sell a subscription service for a "minimum" donation on the sly like that. He probably doesn't want to take the fee hit for taking legit sales payments because I think donations are processed at a different rate or something. Basically the guy's circumventing the AUP/TOS/UA whatever by selling a content subscription but claiming it's a donation.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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They basically have to, it'd be pretty dumb to tell people they can buy the phone through anyone else and unlock it, but not through them. Especially when probably every phone will be CDMA and GSM compatible.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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I hope their severance packages are goddamn katanas wrapped in rice paper with instructions on how to shank oneself through the gut.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Pop the sim in the microwave to clear it real good.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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It's amusing to think Hesse is really a worn, aging party animal and around the office he prefers people call him "The Dan" so he can hold on to that small piece of his glory days, slurping cognac out of hookers' navels and snorting rails of coke off their asses in the 80's.

Then in person he can be as coolly professional as possible.

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Jun 2, 2005

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Vykk.Draygo posted:

What in the world are you talking about?


"The Dan At Sprint Dot Com"

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