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Nov 6, 2012

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Phobeste posted:

yes, but watch the director's cut without the voiceover
No, watch the Final Cut without the voiceover and with the finished special effects.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Saint Darwin posted:

every art form and genre has a good amount of stuff that is really bad, I don't see it as unique to scifi. i think that most of the reason people don't want to be labeled as scifi or admit to reading it or talk crap about it is because its still relatively new and the giants in the genre are either still alive or have only died pretty recently.
Nah, it's because it's culturally associated with lowbrow pulp. Lightsabers and laser guns and all that. Movies and video games are probably the biggest culprits here.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Cold on a Cob posted:

what a coincidence I'm watching The Grey right now (halfway through, pretty good so far!)
Hate to break it to you, but the ending totally shoots itself in the foot with melodrama.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Cold on a Cob posted:

why haven't we had any seriously good sci fi movies in a long time? seems like the late 70s to the late 90s is when all the good sci fi happened and now it's all action movies in the future basically
This poor man, he hasn't seen Moon.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Grandmaster.flv posted:

I'm kind of disappointed cyberpunk has had maybe like a gran total of 15 books and movies. The only not total poo poo cyberpunk movie was Blade Runner. Arguably the Matrix but other than that...
Blade Runner isn't cyberpunk; it doesn't meaningfully feature computers. Cyberpunk copied the look, but that doesn't retroactively make Blade Runner cyberpunk.

I haven't seen it, but Ghost in the Shell is supposed to be A Good Cyberpunk Movie. But it's an anime, so I don't know if it counts.

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Nov 6, 2012

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golgo13sf posted:

"Hey, you know that Dark Knight poster, how cool that was? Yeah, do it just like that"

Is that supposed to be London? I'm seeing 30 St. Mary Axe off to the right.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Saw previews for Oblivion and After Earth before The Hobbit (which was a bad movie that you shouldn't see); Oblivion looks even more like a video game than that Total Recall remake did, and After Earth is literally Enemy Avatar of the Apes. 2013's gonna be a good year.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Mister Snips posted:

whats with japans hosed up porn/anime

i mean theres always gonna be hosed up porn and its not like america doesnt export some hosed up stuff too but its like japan wants to be the weirdest and goes above and beyond the call of duty
Post-WWII censorship laws instituted by :911: authorities forced them to latch onto creepy tentacle/panty/bukkake/whatever fetishes for their porn in place of actual sex, and it just spiraled downward from there. That's also where the mosaics come from.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Is Virtual Light any good? I got it a while ago but it's been pretty low-priority and I haven't read it yet.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Amethyst posted:

CD is such a tiresome forum. someone says they found the goblin king really silly and over the top and the regulars say "uh, didn't you watch teh beginning of the film? bilbo is exaggerating the story as he tells it, you aren't meant to take that literally!"
gog danm

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Nov 6, 2012

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i just found billy idol's cyberpunk cheap at a thrift store. should i buy it or is it the boring kind of bad?

i'm thinking that it'll go great with my johnny mnemonic vhs.

speaking of vhs old sci-fi movies on [ [ w i d e s c r e e n ] ] vhs are the best thing.

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Nov 6, 2012

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vi has a lot of character and spirit but its plot is ridiculous. you can really tell that the script was written in six weeks and it's offensive how shatner butchered sulu's role in the climax. at least change sulu's log so there isn't a discrepancy with who's studying "gaseous anomalies" you wienerlord.

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Nov 6, 2012

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qntm posted:

but but who's the villain and what planet-destroying machine does he have
darth vader, the death star

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Nov 6, 2012

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holiday special edition explosion, shameful.

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Nov 6, 2012

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what's the sci-fi equivalent of a stylesheet where strong and oblique tags are broken and the best button still has that stupid double border on the right? the final frontier enterprise? the falcon's hyperdrive in the empire strikes back? i thought that they were going to fix this bullshit and it hasn't gone away.

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jan 18, 2013

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Nov 6, 2012

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wasn't the '90s dr. who movie american or am i horribly mistaken?

Bad rear end Boutique posted:

what the gently caress
it's called a joke you silly goof.

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jan 18, 2013

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Nov 6, 2012

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see the problem with remakes is that they never remake movies that actually warrant it. it would be one thing if they remade movies like the black hole where the premise was kinda cool but the cheesy execution killed it. nope instead we get bullshit like psycho '98. like did they actually think that they were going to make a better movie than alfred loving hitchcock? if not why even bother, why not just remake something else that has a chance of being worth the trouble?

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Jan 19, 2013

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Nov 6, 2012

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ol qwerty bastard posted:

I'm about 3/4 done Revelation Space and goddamn is this a cool book. Who knew it was possible to write good space opera with no FTL.
i wanted to write one but then i read downbelow station and realized that i'd been beaten to the punch by a couple of decades.

if revelation space is anywhere near as good (and it's probably better given how much more of a reputation it has) i just might have to read it.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Moist von Lipwig posted:

X3 was the least fun I've ever had playing a video game
pfft "fun" look at this babby who can't appreciate the rewarding depth and sophistication of a real spaceships game. why don't you go back to playing starfox on your shitendo pee and leave the grownup starflight simulations to the people who can handle them. :smug:

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Nov 6, 2012

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it's a demographic thing. most creationists are olds and there is a lot of olds in murka.

also i watched the total recall remake today and it was really really eh. not even bad just completely forgettable.

well actually there were some bad things about it like the plot being full of holes (no psychics in this version so why bother with making quaid at all, cohaagen setting up "The Resistance" as an excuse to kick everyone out of "The Colony" and then not even mentioning it when he invades) and hinging on retarded science (gravity in free fall, toxic and breathable atmospheres staying neatly separated because there's no wind in the future). i couldn't tell how good the special effects were because everything looked like a goddamn video game anyway (when you're tired of ripping off blade runner, go for minority report!) and might as well have been one. destroying the elevator was completely bullshit. yeah chopping the world in half was a good thing because the elevator was built by TEH VILLAN OH NOEZ. "symbol of oppression" my rear end. also the piano scene was literally the only part of the movie that had any emotional resonance with me because the characters were so unidimensional and generic that i couldn't even care the rest of the time.

i know that the moron science and single-trait characters were even worse in the original movie but goddamn it wasn't SERIOUS about them. the remake is just "dramatic" as hell when people aren't punching each other and it's so much hot air that you could lift like five balloons with it.

on second thought this movie was pretty bad.

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Nov 6, 2012

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ol qwerty bastard posted:

I didn't even manage to finish it. Got about halfway through, thought to myself "wow, I'm not enjoying this movie at all" and turned it off.
oh poo poo sorry for spoiling the movie. pretend that everything that i said about invasions and elevator explosions had black bars over it so you couldn't read it.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Al! posted:

boba fett mustve felt pretty weird running around a galaxy where most of the space cops and space soldiers were clones of his dad
he was a clone of his dad too so it would have been even weirder than just that.

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Nov 6, 2012

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is anyone else excited for the brazil remake? in anyone else's hands i'd be extremely wary but christopher nolan has proven himself before and i'm convinced that he's the man for the job.

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Nov 6, 2012

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jfc people i was joking about brazil being remade.

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Nov 6, 2012

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"elan sleazebaggano" is the canonical name of a character who appears in one of the movies. like not expanded universe or anything, he actually has a scene where he talks with obi-wan.

and yet we still have spergs who take the star wars "universe" seriously.

ol qwerty bastard posted:

good one. you definitely pulled the wool over our eyes with that!!

nah it's just that the total recall thing had me thinking "what would be the worst science-fiction movie to remake?" and :nolan: was just vaguely-plausible enough to be funny as the director. i figured that people would go "ha ha yeah wouldn't that be something" and leave it at that.

MancXVI posted:

because the republic is horrendously corrupt and aristocratic and only cares about fake poo poo for nobles and the only difference between it and the empire is that at least the empire openly admits that it's terrible

they're literally willing to clone people to fight against robots to resolve trade disputes
wait so lucas's lovely writing is actually internally consistent in the most interesting and unexpected way possible? like what if the prequels are a deliberate satire on the cartoony black-and-white morality of the original trilogy? really makes you think man. "from my point of view the jedi are evil" #wow #whoa

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Nov 6, 2012

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MancXVI posted:

gonna keep careposting about how terrible star wars is

so you're telling me that in the galaxy of loving space travel and laser swords they can't just electronically jam all those droids? it's really a better solution to send mass-produced meatbags to battle them in some empty field?
yeah it's almost like these space fantasy action movies for kids emphasize visual flashiness over practical tactics and strategy.

or in simpler less ironic terms that you might have a better chance of understanding:

The Star Wars saga practically runs on Rule Of Cool. Most of the Big drat Heroes and Big drat Villains carry at least one Laser Bladed BFS, the Cool Ships maneuver like airplanes and sea vessels even though Space Does Not Work That Way, and despite the Evil Overlords in The Verse presumably knowing how to Nuke Em, every movie features a Big Badass Battle Sequence pitting tons of Mooks against each other. Needless to say, Crowning Moments Of Awesome abound oh god oh god oh god :suicide:

ahmeni posted:

also jamming doesnt work like that
it actually would have worked in the phantom menace and was blindingly obvious to the point of being a plot hole. yet another reason for why that movie sucks balls out of an rear end (made of more balls).

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Nov 6, 2012

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Siljmonster posted:

well now that star wars is owned by disney i guess its literally made for children
lucas used that excuse 14 years ago to justify jar jar and anakin "yippee" skywalker. not exactly a new development.

of course he's full of poo poo because the revenge of the sith was retardedly grimdark and violent, half of attack of the clones was a horrible boring "romance" that would put any preteen in a coma, and all three prequels were loaded with bullshit space government scenes that would put anyone in a coma. the obvious truth is that the man just has awful taste in everything.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Siljmonster posted:

every movie had some kind of kid in it for inexplicably no reason at all
you clearly don't know much about kids. the only thing that'll make a kid care about something is having a kid in it. if you think that a kid would ever be interested in (let alone idolize) an adult character you're delusional. this is why they don't make batman toys, only action figures (which are for adults to collect).

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

but yeah, that was gone by jedi; with things like chewie climbing inside of an AT-ST and off-camera gunning down the entire crew
also the loving teddy bear army.

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Nov 6, 2012

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teh z0rg posted:

this is retarded

youre retarded
you're autistic if you thought that i was being serious.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Siljmonster posted:

i wonder if there were any kids that overly joyed at the opulence that was jar jar binks
i know that little kid me thought that frogs were the raddest and was all psyched for the badass frog jedi (who was definitely going to have a green lightsaber).

welp.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Guido van Possum posted:

lucas would have been good if he wasnt a god drat retard

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Nov 6, 2012

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Deacon of Delicious posted:

have you been reading your posts

especially that one with all of the capital letters

you don't get to call anyone else autistic
i'm not a troper, i actually had to research that loving thing.

never again. no joke is worth a visit to tvtropes.

also gg on ignoring the great wall of sperg that shaggar posted.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Can-O-Raid posted:

he lost all sympathy when he went Platoon on those tuscon raiders
tucson raiders

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Nov 6, 2012

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Stymie posted:

heh

it's "tuscan" actually
it's sand people.

seriously "tusken raiders" is one of the dumbest names imaginable. it's like calling them "sui'desh bandits" or "rush-enn hunters". gog danm it lucas.

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Nov 6, 2012

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jesus chris i just remembered that there's a planet called mon calamari and it's populated by squid people. squid people who are in the movies.

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Nov 6, 2012

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FMguru posted:

a greedy bounter hunter named "greedo"

a sexy dancing girl named "oola"

ugly, pig-faced guards called "ugh-naughts"

the star wars universe was full of stupid poo poo long before episode i came along
salacious crumb, the laughing hedonistic beaked monkey surrounded by a harem. also he constantly ogles bikini leia.

leia organa, the princess who stands against the technological might of the evil empire.

wicket w. warrick, the illiterate forest warrior with a middle initial.

sy snootles, the singer with her mouth at the end of a long snout.

mon calamari again because it's beyond unforgivable.

i have to admit though that it was a nice touch to name the cocky loner at the bar "solo" and then give him a sidekick.

i just realized that almost all of these are from return of the jedi. what a surprise.

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Nov 6, 2012

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NoneMoreNegative posted:

yeah not seeing a problem here
did jabba name him? that would excuse it.

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Nov 6, 2012

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nice heels.

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Nov 6, 2012

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oh lord i think that i'm turning into a cd poster and i've never even been there.

i just pulled up the robot beatdown scene from prometheus on my computer for a quick laugh and "got" it. i knew that ridley scott had said in an interview that the robot was giving a basic "we come in peace" introduction. what "must" have happened was that when the alien touched michael fassbender's head it could somehow sense that he was a robot and his deliberately organic appearance was deceptive and showed that he could not be trusted and was probably a threat. so it ripped his head off.

now i realize that this is still pretty retarded and is basically an ad hoc explanation (it immediately decided to kill this random guy after jumping to a really drastic conclusion about his intent because it "somehow" knew that he was a robot) but i don't know why the scene would have even been written if it isn't true. it troubles me that i was actually able to "think" on the level of the cd thread (see nonsensical lovely writing, subconsciously attempt to fit it into some kind of explanation) in order to come up with this. the movie only makes sense if you explain everything away like a conspiracy theorist and for about 30 seconds tonight i was that conspiracy theorist.

please help me because i'm convinced that this is what they were going for and it scares me that i picked up on it.

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Nov 6, 2012

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Stymie posted:

i interpreted that scene in prometheus as,
this is reassuring, i see that i still have a ways to go.

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