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Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
A friend suggested I try writing articles for Jon Leger at INeedArticles.com. I've been enjoying it so far, they don't seem to be picky about style guides that much and all my stuff has been accepted.

The pay seems to be...
600 words for $3.90
500 words for $3.20
400 words for $2.50
300 words for $1.80
100 words for $0.70

Is this decent for what it is? Or does this guy pay incredibly low and if I am going to do this I could be doing it elsewhere? I guess I like that I don't have an hourly commitment, and anytime I am bored I can hop on and pump out a 500 word article in about 15 minutes. My dashboard says I've made about $9.55/hr, and so far have submitted 7 articles for $20.00

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Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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SEO writing is mentally draining. I've been working at Writers Domain, as the pay is pretty decent for what they are asking (SEO content that is like a blog style stream of consciousness that pays $3.30 for 200 words with good grammar/spelling), but I just don't know how many times I can write about the same topics. They only let you do 500 articles a month, which comes out to $1,650 if I pace myself at 17 a day and taking me about an average a little over 2 hours a day. If I really push myself I've gotten it can get them done in about 1 1/2 hours though. I've been trying to do it every day for a month since it's such easy money. Might have to dial it back next month to preserve my sanity.

I don't know how you guys can do this every day as a full time gig. I think I'd go crazy...

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

kazmeyer posted:

It's a lot easier to avoid burnout when you've got a nice variety of gigs. I write, I transcribe, I do search engine stuff. If one of them's driving me nuts, I can focus on the other two to make up the difference. I just recently went through a drought where I barely did any transcription at all, but now my main writing gig is pissing me off so I'm back in the reality show mines.

In any case, most of us don't do that kind of volume writing. Until recently, I wrote exclusively for one or two sites that paid $20+ for 400 words, and I'd do probably an average of one or two a day in conjunction with my other gigs. I've only recently started diversifying again with places like WriterAccess/Zerys to pick up some of the easy cheapo work to help supplement. If I suddenly decided I was going to write 3400 words a day, though, I'd be publishing books, not grinding for content mills.

I do a lot of other things too, writing just pays the best so I've been focusing on that first. At $28/hr it's actually paying better than my real job. I have a full time job, so this is all just additional income for me.

$20 for 400 words is all relevant to the quality of the work they want though. If I had to write a well researched article, that could take me an hour easily. If I am writing content mill SEO garbage I can make the same amount in 30-45 minutes it seems. Isn't $3.30/200 words high for SEO blog style content? I seem to keep discovering better paying gigs as I go.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

kazmeyer posted:

What kind of articles are we talking about for this rate, anyway?

It's literally a stream of consciousness about a topic that requires zero research.

http://idea-tank.net/2013/08/26/how-to-choose-a-locksmith-in-gig-harbor-wa/

The most feed back I ever received are that I accidentally spelled a word wrong because I didn't proof read well enough, and even so am not required to go back and fix it myself.

Astro7x fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 27, 2013

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
why would anybody need porn transcribed?

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
I feel like a lot of work has been drying up early this month, maybe in a rush to get work done before christmas shopping...?

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Accretionist posted:

I signed up with Textbroker and I'm not sure what to make of keyword-article requests. Are those the stream-of-consciousness SEO jobs I'm hearing about?

I saw a good couple hundred article requests the other day that looked like this:

Flying buttresses are common additions to today's modern cathedrals! Write a unique, interesting and informative article about Flying buttresses.

The article must contain the keywords:

"flying buttress" 3 - 4 times
"flying buttress architects in Picardy" 2 -3 times
"not vertical buttresses" 1 - 2

- - - - -

I've never done this so I'm not at all confident about what they're asking for. Are they asking for something like that locksmith SEO from earlier?

That article was for Writers Domain, not Textbroker. I am personally not sure what kind of content Text Broker wants.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
I have a friend that just signed up at Text Broker, is there any wait to get into it? She's a beginner and I'm trying to suggest some easy sites to get into writing since it seems up her ally.

I guess is there any other site that you would recommend to a newbie to this?

Astro7x fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Dec 14, 2013

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Sara T. Biggun posted:

I'm still on some nebulous waiting list at Writer's Domain... have been for months.

People have been on the waiting list since the Summer, I got in sometime in June.

The work is dry there too, as they ran out of work earlier this month. The community is horrible about it too, frequently complaining about how the reviewers are not reviewing their work fast enough, or trying to keep it top secret when the daily drop of limited articles happens. ]

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
I got this email from Writers Domain saying that "exciting changes are a coming"

quote:

Happy New Year! 2013 was an amazing year and 2014 looks to be even more promising. Article orders grew 30% in 2013 and, as many of you may have noticed, we recently expanded into Australia. We owe our growth to each of you and the work that you do. Thanks for your dedication to producing quality content for WritersDomain.

We are excited to announce some big changes coming in 2014! As the internet has continued to evolve at a rapid pace, so have the needs of our clients. In order to continue to fulfill their needs and exceed their expectations, we are making significant changes to the products and the subsequent quality of the content we offer. These changes will affect the tasks available on WritersDomain, and will include an increase in compensation rates for each task.

The new WritersDomain products are anticipated to debut March 1. In preparation for these exciting changes, there will be a significant decrease in the number of article topics available during the month of February. Throughout February, we will also periodically update the website to reflect any news we may have. Current updates will be conveniently located on your dashboard. We hope this decreases the need writers may feel to email support for information. We will stand by our long-standing policy to be transparent, and continue to keep you updated as we make these changes.

In the coming weeks, training materials will become available to help educate you on the new products. Investing time into learning the new products and processes will prepare you for their release, so when they go live on WritersDomain, you will know what to expect and how to succeed.

We are happy to answer any questions you may have if we are able. We cannot offer more info on product specifics or payments yet, as these are not finalized. We are always available at support@writersdomain.net.

First of all, they are talking about less work in February. I am wondering if other websites are going to see the same thing. I'm really curious if this has anything to do with the new google search algorithm Hummingbird? It seems like google is changing up how it ranks websites a bit. The focus is still on content, but more about content that gives answers to questions rather than blog style content that simply links back to a website without using a branded keyword. And then other things like having more entry pages to a website with helpful articles.

I wonder how much of an impact it is going to have on SEO writing.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
One of my SEO articles was reviewed at Writers Domain, the reviewer said that they are transitioning way from anecdotes next month so I should change up my writing style.

Are a lot of other sites doing that too? Assuming this all has to do with Google, but I thought Hummingbird favored more casual blog style stuff.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Writers Domain released sample articles of what they expect for 400 words for $20.

Here is a 5 star example and here is a 3 star example. Both pay the same, just the looming threat of "write lovely for us and we'll remove your account".

Are these good rates for this kind of content? I really don't know if I am going to be putting in this kind of effort if there is somewhere else I should go to write the same stuff but make more money. In theory, if you write enough 5 star articles they will give you access to 600 word $40 articles, but I don't think I'm capable of getting to that point.

Basically... I miss the old days where I was able to churn out 200 words in under 5 minutes about drat near anything for $3.30. There is a lot less emphasis on anecdotes or general information, more focus on researched articles without common knowledge.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Writers Domain has been turning into a frustrating mess since they changed formats from 200 word $3.30 articles to 400 word $20 articles. It took me 45 minutes to write one instead of the usual 10 minutes. I have been seeing people post their reviewer comments online, these simple SEO articles are being send back for content revisions up to two times, some times rejecting them. The reviews between the original and both revisions are sometimes twice as long as the articles themselves. It's kind of crazy...

There use to be a article count that was shrinking each day, it's actually been growing each day!

These are a series of reviews I found on a 400 word article on "Cataracts"

quote:

Monday, March 3rd 2014, 2:33:21 pm - The flow of this article is good. You introduce ideas and definitions well, and your train of thought is easy to follow. You have lots of good information and you sound authoritative. The main issues with this article are flow and grammar. Keep sentences short for readability. "Cataracts, due to aging, occurs when the eye lens loses its nourishment due to hardening of the arteries of other diseases, like diabetes mellitus, that prevent the blood supply from reaching the vitreous, which is the water substance that surrounds and nourishes the lens." This is a very long sentence and is hard to get through. Try instead "Cataracts often form when a person's arteries harden and prevent blood from reaching the vitreous, the area that surrounds and nourishes the lens." The information that was removed is interesting, but distracting and not necessary to understanding cataracts. In the section on antioxidants there is some redundancy and confusion. The importance of taking antioxidants is mentioned three times. The second sentence introduces a list of substances; it can be assumed that these are antioxidants, but it's not explicitly stated. The fourth sentence doesn't tell the reader the actual role of selenium, vitamin E, and zinc in eye health; it simply restates that they are necessary. When talking about cataracts, sometimes a plural pronoun is used and sometimes a singular pronoun is used. When talking about "cataracts," say "they." When talking about the disease, say "it." Use the Oxford comma. It is the last comma in a list before the word "and." For example, " B vitamins, beta-carotene, zinc, and selenium." "Cataract development decreases in those who do not smoke, wear sunglasses when outdoors, reduce saturated fats in their diets and eat more green leafy vegetables." In this sentence, it sounds like "do not" applies to everything listed, not just smoking. The article needs a conclusion. Just 2-3 sentences that make the reader want to do something or share the article for some reason. In that same vein, use "you" phrases more in the article to relate it to the reader and help them want to take action. For example, "In addition to creating a cataract nutritional program, you may need to make certain lifestyle changes to prevent or reverse cataracts successfully" (this is a revised version of the first sentence in the last paragraph). This engages the reader and avoids passive sentences. Use this tone throughout for consistency. Who is Dr. Weil? Identify people and define unfamiliar terms.
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Tuesday, March 4th 2014, 1:23:43 pm - Thank your for the time and effort you put into your revision. It is clear that you took the reviewers suggestions and tried to implement them. We liked the formatting, in that it was broken down into subtopics and made good use of small paragraphs. Your article is also rich with interesting information and great suggestions for lifestyle changes to help your with your eyesight and avoid cataracts. Along that same line you use citations very well, and do a great job of using reputable sources. You do an excellent job of defining more abstract terms and of making your article relatable. You also make good use of tone and authority. We also really liked the concluding statement you added, per your reviewers suggestion. It's adds a sense of finality and closure. There are just a few things we would like to address. We feel that your title could be more engaging. While "Lifestyle Changes May Reverse Cataracts, Making Surgery Unnecessary" is an accurate representation of what the reader will find in your article, it could be more creative. Also, as far as formatting, while you did an excellent job of breaking your article down into smaller topics, you bolded everything except for the first paragraph. We think this may have been an accidental oversight, however, if it was not we would recommend bolding only the headers. We also would like for you to make sure you are proofreading, in order to avoid random quotation marks appearing in your text. The biggest problem with your article was the presence of redundancy. Your paragraphs about Vitamins and Antioxidants mirror one another. They emphasize the exact same material and even make use of the same list of vitamins: beta-carotene, zinc and selenium and vitamin C. These are not the only ones you mention but the ones that you mention more than once for the same benefit. If possible avoid repeating "green leafy vegetables" more than once, as well. By adhering to these suggestions we have no doubt that you will be getting excellent ratings in no time. The information you provide is excellent. Just try to avoid redundancy.
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Tuesday, March 4th 2014, 3:47:25 pm - Thank your for taking the time to revise this article once more. We can tell that you have implemented many of our suggestions. For instance, you did a great job proofreading and improving the flow of your sentences. There’s lots of good research about vitamins and lifestyle changes that potential readers can use. We would suggest that you take your research a step further and clarify any terms readers might have. For instance, one sentence said, “These vitamins act as antioxidants, which fight against free radicals.” Instead of just stopping there, slow down and explain to the reader what “free radicals” are and why they are bad. As far as readability goes, you did a great job of breaking your article down into appropriate sub-topics. The last two paragraphs were still bold, but I imagine that had to do with the word processor. There was still some redundancy in the first two paragraphs about vitamins and lifestyle changes. It may be easier to avoid redundancy if you make unique headers. In the first paragraph, you mention three items that could potentially be used for headings (e.g. “catching the condition early, taking vitamins, and making certain lifestyle changes.”) Since you’ve already introduced this list, the reader will expect the rest of the article to delve more into these topics—which you do. Be careful of subject/verb agreement. For instance, one sentence said, "The key to avoiding cataract surgery is to catch the condition early, make certain lifestyle changes, and take vitamins." But since there are three items in this list, the sentence should say something like, “The keys to avoiding cataract surgery are . . .” Overall, your revisions really gave this article useful and straightforward content. You have great research and readers will be able to use your tips. For your future writing, focus on how you break up and organize your article. Bullet points, bold items, and shorter paragraphs will make the content easier to digest. Thanks for writing.

I have a feeling writers are not going to be able to adapt to their content nazi changes, when before you could pretty much submit anything as long as it had proper keywords and good grammar.

Astro7x fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Mar 5, 2014

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Nighthand posted:

Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to get the format down and rull in the money. I wish they'd accept me already so I could give it a shot.

I edited and put more specifics up above with the feedback they've been giving.

I completely agree. I'd keep an eye on registration in case they start cutting writers. So far I have not heard of anyone's accounts being deactivated, but it's only been 3 days and I've seen a lot of people frustrated with the changes.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Turtlicious posted:

It sounds like they just have pre-fabbed sentences to use when they see a mistake, so they tally up the mistakes then paste in the sentences.

I don't think so... I just read a 400 word review about an article that calls out very specific things and offers suggestions. Either way, I am just not use to people being this critical on content.

Nitrousoxide posted:

Just gonna throw this out there. At 10 minutes a pop for 3.3 dollars per article, you are making, on average, slightly less than 20 dollars an hour. Plus you have to be productive for every minute of that hour. At 45 minutes for 20 dollars you make slightly more and have 15 minutes to either goof off or put into another project per hour.

Seems like you come out ahead there.

Well I haven't been told to revise my article yet though, so there could still be more to it. It's a lot more challenging trying to come up with a unique spin on an article instead of making up an anecdote about pretty much any topic. It also requires a lot more time. I am use to being able to write an article or two during my lunch break at work.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Looks like Writers Domain is hiring content editors, so maybe they are planning on hiring more writers

https://boostability.recruiterbox.com/jobs/30543?referer=indeed

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
I guess if anybody was curious about what is going on at Writers Domain.... they started with 5000 article March 1st, and now are up to 15,000. So PLENTY of work.

They posted these charts to their Facebook page



Only 49% of articles are going through with no revisions...



On the flip side, 45% of writers have not received a single review for the articles they wrote in March.

They posted an ad that they are hiring reviewers, the reviews are getting less detailed, and some High Priority articles are getting reviewed within 24 hours. I am now getting generic review responses from them instead of the 500 word critics of a 400 word SEO article. On their Facebook page people have asked about expanding the article limit to 100 articles instead of 80, and they said they have plenty of writers to handle their current workload.

The article count keeps growing every day, and there are a lot of writers not writing in fear of losing their account (mainly because they haven't receive their first critique]

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

thylacine posted:

So Ginger is free for only limited times a week. Is there an open source or free equivalent to it or Grammarly?

I've been using this site

http://www.paperrater.com/

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Wasn't there a site people mentioned where you can put up articles, and if someone wants it they buy it they can?

I have two rejected articles I can't get through Writers Domain, but they are still good enough where I'd take $10 for them for 400-600 word articles just to get something from them.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

An Old Boot posted:

I was looking around to see if there's any dedicated watchdog sites for freelancers, because there really should be. Looking up reviews for various transcription sites on the web gets basically a bunch of scattered hits, and always makes me wish there was a dedicated aggregate site, one that starts putting more pressure on companies like this. I know it's wishful thinking, but, at the same time, it seems like it'd be an incredibly useful tool for people who aren't aware of, say, this thread.

As has been said before, there's a lot of people who will fall for poo poo like this, and thus the companies keep doing it, but it seems like there has to at least be a way to put a dent in their flow of jilted contractors.

Pipe dreams aside: :sigh:

I've seen the links in this thread to FreelancerWatchDogs, so not to step on any toes.

There is a website I go to called CloudMeBaby which has people that primarily use MTurk, but also have subforums for cloud based writing. There have a posting requirement so people don't lurk and not contribute (I think it's like 2 posts a month), but the owners are very much in favor of having open communication and not hiding things from select users. It's been a huge problem with sites like TurkerNation, where there is a elite group of people who have access to the super secret forums where they can interact with requesters and get special qualifications, because they are paranoid of newbies taking all the work.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Apparently Writers Domain took a large chunk of about 3,000 400 word articles and outsourced them to Text Broker and Writers Access. I can't confirm personally, but the article count went down instantly the other day and those same keywords are now appearing on those sites.

This was on their Facebook page today

quote:

WritersDomain.net We have a lot of older articles that need to be written so we've enlisted the help of other places. We'll also be hiring soon.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
They turned off the article cap at Writers Domain for the first 15 days of May for a contest. Usually it's 80 articles a month for $1,600. Some writers I spoke with have written as many as 10 a day so far to take advantage of it.

If I knew they were going to send stuff over to TextBroker for $4.25 a piece instead of $20, I would have outsourced them to you guys for much more than that.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
For those getting into Writers Domain, I'll post my tips on what I think they like based on my past 150 or so accepted articles under the new format.

If anybody has any questions, ask away!

quote:

Title
Concise and not too long, tells the reader what to expect in the article.

"All Capital Letters Like This In A Title"

Using "How To…" is a great idea, as it tells the reader they will learn to do something. "A Beginners Guide To…" can work as well, but I've found that the reviewers expect you to over explain things because you assume the reader knows nothing as a beginner. The classic "5 Tips To Do..." also works well with them

If your title is "How To Install A Thermostat", but then give info in the article about the benefits of controlling your thermostat, how to install, and information about energy savings, you will probably get a revision saying to focus on just the installation. I just reword the title to encompass all the information. "Guide To Energy Savings And Thermostats" or something like that.

Intro
Short, concise. Two sentences? Gives a summary of what the article is about. Lets the reader know. Don't use rambly anecdotes to start article, get right into it.

Headers
Make sure they are the same style. For example. "Clean The Grill", "Light The Grill", "Store The Grill". Putting -ing at the end of words in titles causes revisions sometimes… it depends on if it can do without it or not. Obvious don't mix "lighting the grill" with "store the grill". Or mix commands with questions. They should be similarly structured.

Body Paragraphs
I keep paragraphs no more than 3 sentences. Can be as short as one. Line breaks help readability.

Try to have the paragraphs under each header roughly the same size. For example. The section on cleaning the grill should be the same length as the section on lighting the grill. It's stupid, but if one is twice the length as the other, try to find a breaking point and put in a new sub head.

Bullet Lists
If it's a how to article, you can't go wrong with a list of tools required. The list order should be the order that they are used in the article as well. List of tools are not required if they are really basic, but a list can't hurt to pad word count. A list of tools can be it's own subhead and paragraph. Usually like "to get started, you need to gather the following tools", then the bullet list, then a sentence afterwards to add whitespace/readability.

Bullet list should have the first letter of the first word of each bullet point capitalized. For example:
-Tape measure
-Power drill
-Table saw

Actionable Specifics
They love articles that have direction telling the reader what to do. Especially if it uses the word "You". Instead of saying "Use the saw to cut the wood...", it can say "you can use the saw to cut the wood..."

Generally, articles telling someone how to do something are better than articles like… the benefits of regular dental care, or something research heavy. Though those can get by if they are written well enough, I've found that a basic How To is much easier to get accepted than a researched article on a general topic.

Citations
You only need citations if you are using a statistic, or something very specific to add authority. It can also be used to aid the reader in the article. Writing an article about grilling? Link them to allrecipies.com's marinade section instead of telling how to make a marinade. Citations are basic hyperlinks, don't paste the full URL.

Be aware of the country and the source you are using. A US .gov site is not going to fly for a Canadian article.

You also only need to cite a webpage once if multipel stats are from the same site. So if you are citing the EPAs rules on what can or can't be thrown into a dumpster, you don't need to cite it for each instance.

Generally I lean to do without citations, as it gets messy. They say citations are what bumps you up from 3 Stars to a 4 or 5 Star article, but I have gotten 5 stars without a citation.

Conclusion
A simple one or two sentence conclusion is fine. You need a conclusion of some sort.

Review Process
The review process is really annoying. You could have three different reviewers looking at your article, one for each revision, and each of them find a new fault wrong with it. I have submitted rejected articles, and had them go through just fine with a new reviewer. It's almost like the comment trail on your article makes it get judges more harshly. If a reviewer says "take out this part about ___", just do it, because the next reviewer will return it saying you didn't follow instructions. And then it seems like the reviewers get a memo saying things like "make sure they use citations to add authority" then for a day or so it seems like you get a ton of revisions for the same drat thing. Then they stop caring and the comment goes away. It's weird, but they are in a transition process.

The blog is a good resource, as well as their facebook page. They respond to questions on their facebook page, or other writers will chime in.
http://blog.writersdomain.net/
https://www.facebook.com/writersdomain

Save Your Work!
DO NOT write in their lovely text box. The site LOVES to time out and then erase everything you typed when it logs you out. Write in Word, and turn the grammar settings all the way up. You should be saving all the articles you write in case they reject it, so you can edit and resubmit because their system doesn't save rejected articles.

The only other weird grammar thing that I found they are picky about is the oxford comma. I can't think of anything else 'writing style' wise to be aware of. Maybe it's spelled out in the writing guidelines now. At one point they were picky about a single space after periods, but now they are not.

Astro7x fucked around with this message at 21:24 on May 20, 2014

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:

That's super helpful, thanks! The headers thing never would have occurred to me for a 400-word article. Or writing such short paragraphs. It... might take me a while to get the hang of this. :saddowns:

If you check out the blog posts at the end of February they have some example articles. It's a bit misleading, as the 5 star examples are not representative of what they want at all in terms of content, with no actionable specifics. But they give you an idea of content structure.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:

All of my articles have been accepted to WritersDomain so far! Not that I've written many. Picking a keyword seems to be the hardest part for me. There are a shitton of them and it seems like I haven't the slightest idea what to write about 90% of them. Possibly it will get easier to bullshit my way through with time.

Having a ton of keywords has actually been great for me. I pretty much write about whatever I want, and I can find a keyword that fits the article which is great. When they had the 200 word $3.30 articles, and you could write 500 a month, they would be snapped up so quickly that you just sort of had to make due with what you had.

If you need ideas, just type the keyword into any of these sites.
http://goarticles.com/
http://www.articlecity.com/
http://www.articlealley.com/
http://ezinearticles.com/

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:

I'm cool with just going with most of my weird revision requests, but man. I just got dinged for not being specific enough with the statement, "There are many different kinds of [x], depending on your needs." Even though that was immediately followed by a list of examples. It's... literally just a list of my introductory sentences, complaining that they do not in and of themselves contain the content of the following paragraph. I mean, I'll find a way to fix it, but...

:psyduck:

Sometimes you just get an idiot reviewer. I almost guarantee if you simply reword the sentence it will pass when the next reviewer sees it.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
At WD, reviewers have the option of coming in on Holidays. But it also depends on what you are writing. If you are using the Get Next Standard Article button, it should be put to the front of the queue. If it is from the browse articles section, it could take a long time or it could be reviewed instantly depending on what due date you selected and how full their queue is.

You also could have written an article, and then the client put their work on hold, so their articles are not in the queue available to reviewers. I had one sit for 1 1/2 months like that at the most singled out extreme case during extreme craziness with the new format. I then had one go out for revisions, submitted the revision, and it sat in the queue for almost a month for the same reason. But their internal goal is that your articles will be reviewed in two weeks, and just because they are super fast now, don't expect them to always be that way.

I don't use the GNA button, and I have 1 pending from 5/21, 2 from 5/22, 1 from 5/24, 5/25, and 5/26. And then about 16 approved all within that 6 day time frame as well.

A LOT of people will write those lovely topics about rotary lube pumps or whatever, because they need their money now, and desperate to hit that Pay Me Now button every day. Use GNA if you want faster reviews.

Astro7x fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 26, 2014

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:

Thanks for the info, Astro! You have been super helpful so far, I feel like I have the inside scoop. :3: I'm willing to wait for now, since the GNA button seems potentially soulcrushing. The only ones I don't think I'd ever be able to do are the ones that are less a keyword, and more an extremely specific sentence.

No problem!

I have no idea how people write for those and not get a revision request... I assume they are vary lenient on the keyword use now that we don't need to include it in the articles. You just have to write in the general realm of the keyword.

They all get posted on those fake blogs, I found one of my dental articles on this on: http://dentalcoveragequote.info/

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Writers Domain is really messing with the queue right now.

So they removed all the articles available to write except for the ones due yesterday, which they have a good reason to do. Except now there is about 50 keywords to pick from.

Being able to write about virtually anything, and plug it into a keyword was really nice. I knew it couldn't last for very long.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Knightmare posted:

I recently got accepted to Writer's Domain and did a bunch of articles on keywords I knew about, they pay $20 an article and they'd take me anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes. Now I'm having to do some research on keywords I'm not experienced with which bumps it up to an hour due to research. I'm still pretty new to writing, and still learning the kind of stuff they like to see, but hopefully when I get that down I can average about 45 minutes, ~$30/hr.

They do cap the amount of articles you can do a month (80 I believe, so $1600/mo) and with a regular fulltime job I never will hit that cap but it's nice making an extra $500 a month for churning out 5ish articles a week.

The cap has been indefinitely turned off since May 1st. They might turn it back on, who knows…. people I know have been writing 5-10 a day, cashing out once a day.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Any Writers Domain writers here? They are lowering their rates Sept 1st


Standard 400 Word Articles (originally $20/article)
3 Stars - $15
4 or 5 Stars - $17.50

Premium Articles (Originally $40/article)
3 Stars - $34
4 or 5 Stars - $38

http://blog.writersdomain.net/2014/08/27/update-to-payment-structure/

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Oh god, the forums there are horrible… people take offense to the wording in boiler plate reviews as if it was a personal attack on them.

i did the math, and I'd lose about 20% of my earnings over the past 6 months under this new payment system. It's still good pay for WFH crappy SEO articles that nobody will read, but after taxes it now comes to about $12 per 400 word article for me. I just wish the quality standards went down with the pay. Earlier today I was asked to provide a citation that dentures will dry out if you do not leave them in water. The gently caress?

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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darkwolf220 posted:

I have been watching from a distance for a while and finally decided to give a few of these ideas a go since the local job market sucks and sitting at home doing nothing also sucks. I threw out a few applications at different freelance writing sites and heard back from textbroker today: 4 star rating. Good enough, I will give it a try if I can find any requests not involving e-vaping.

For anyone who has used this site, what are the clients like? How likely is an article to get approved or rejected?

How long did it take you to hear back from Text Broker?

I mainly write at Writers Domain, but am looking to expand to more sites after WD just cut their pay by 12.5%-25% per article. I heard that Text Broker is more lenient about stupid revision requests, unlike WD.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Writers domain is out of work for the first time since February...

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Nighthand posted:

Google just nuked a bunch of private blog networks (which are generally spam) and surprise surprise the mid-tier garbage WD wants written all goes to those blogs. Work there will probably be short until they can establish a new network with a bit more obfuscation to make it last for another 6-12 months.

Do you have any more info on this? Did they just have all their blogs delisted and now scrambling on what to do?

Articles are still trickling in on WD too which is odd. They had a small drop of articles this morning but they are all gone

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Nighthand posted:

https://www.seroundtable.com/google-hits-private-blog-networks-19196.html

I don't know for sure what sites WD articles end up on, but they've been skirting the line of thin content for a long time. Google hits the PBNs and suddenly WD is out of work, when they had a ton before?

If you saved any of your work for them you can always search for phrases and find where your content ends up, which will give you an idea of the sort of sites they're dealing with.

Oh I save everything I write for them

Some of the sites I've found stuff on include
http://dentalcoveragequote.info/
http://legalsocializer.com/
http://hammsgarage.com/

Shady looking as gently caress...

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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So I've been doing a lot of lovely SEO writing recently, and the company runs everything through copyscape so I've just been throwing anything I reword into this tool to cover my rear end. Has worked great for the past several months.

http://www.copyscape.com/compare.php

I love how it works where it easily highlights 3 word + phrases that are identical in the way that copyscape compares a page. Is there anything that does the same thing, but offline? I can't imagine you actually need an internet connection to compare two documents.

Copyscape's compare two documents tool does have a limit to how many times you can use it per day, which is annoying me kind of.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Does anybody here work for Writer's Domain? They have been posting a lot more work this month. Not enough to have articles constantly available, but at the article drop times it has been lasting several hours instead of just minutes like before..

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Does anybody write for Writer's Domain? What a poo poo show over there... they have put in a policy that can get your account banned for refreshing the article page too quickly, because too many people just hammer on the refresh button all day long hoping to get work.

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Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
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Pikestaff posted:

You can make $15-18 on a 400 word article at Writers' Domain but I always had trouble snagging anything from them because they tend to put batches up at a couple of set times that everyone swarms. I'm also honestly not sure if they're open for new writers right now.

WD has not had open applications for US-English writers since Summer 2014. As for Feb 1st they were looking for European writers that have native (or near-native) level fluency of German and Dutch.

Is anybody else still working on Writer's Domain though? Conditions have gotten much worse over there recently. While you could depend on certain days to get a ton of work, it now only lasts for 3 hours instead of 9-10 hours on those days.

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