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A friend suggested I try writing articles for Jon Leger at INeedArticles.com. I've been enjoying it so far, they don't seem to be picky about style guides that much and all my stuff has been accepted. The pay seems to be... 600 words for $3.90 500 words for $3.20 400 words for $2.50 300 words for $1.80 100 words for $0.70 Is this decent for what it is? Or does this guy pay incredibly low and if I am going to do this I could be doing it elsewhere? I guess I like that I don't have an hourly commitment, and anytime I am bored I can hop on and pump out a 500 word article in about 15 minutes. My dashboard says I've made about $9.55/hr, and so far have submitted 7 articles for $20.00
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2013 22:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:21 |
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SEO writing is mentally draining. I've been working at Writers Domain, as the pay is pretty decent for what they are asking (SEO content that is like a blog style stream of consciousness that pays $3.30 for 200 words with good grammar/spelling), but I just don't know how many times I can write about the same topics. They only let you do 500 articles a month, which comes out to $1,650 if I pace myself at 17 a day and taking me about an average a little over 2 hours a day. If I really push myself I've gotten it can get them done in about 1 1/2 hours though. I've been trying to do it every day for a month since it's such easy money. Might have to dial it back next month to preserve my sanity. I don't know how you guys can do this every day as a full time gig. I think I'd go crazy...
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2013 05:28 |
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kazmeyer posted:It's a lot easier to avoid burnout when you've got a nice variety of gigs. I write, I transcribe, I do search engine stuff. If one of them's driving me nuts, I can focus on the other two to make up the difference. I just recently went through a drought where I barely did any transcription at all, but now my main writing gig is pissing me off so I'm back in the reality show mines. I do a lot of other things too, writing just pays the best so I've been focusing on that first. At $28/hr it's actually paying better than my real job. I have a full time job, so this is all just additional income for me. $20 for 400 words is all relevant to the quality of the work they want though. If I had to write a well researched article, that could take me an hour easily. If I am writing content mill SEO garbage I can make the same amount in 30-45 minutes it seems. Isn't $3.30/200 words high for SEO blog style content? I seem to keep discovering better paying gigs as I go.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2013 15:20 |
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kazmeyer posted:What kind of articles are we talking about for this rate, anyway? It's literally a stream of consciousness about a topic that requires zero research. http://idea-tank.net/2013/08/26/how-to-choose-a-locksmith-in-gig-harbor-wa/ The most feed back I ever received are that I accidentally spelled a word wrong because I didn't proof read well enough, and even so am not required to go back and fix it myself. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 27, 2013 |
# ¿ Oct 27, 2013 19:06 |
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why would anybody need porn transcribed?
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2013 04:14 |
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I feel like a lot of work has been drying up early this month, maybe in a rush to get work done before christmas shopping...?
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2013 14:19 |
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Accretionist posted:I signed up with Textbroker and I'm not sure what to make of keyword-article requests. Are those the stream-of-consciousness SEO jobs I'm hearing about? That article was for Writers Domain, not Textbroker. I am personally not sure what kind of content Text Broker wants.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 17:34 |
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I have a friend that just signed up at Text Broker, is there any wait to get into it? She's a beginner and I'm trying to suggest some easy sites to get into writing since it seems up her ally. I guess is there any other site that you would recommend to a newbie to this? Astro7x fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Dec 14, 2013 |
# ¿ Dec 14, 2013 03:07 |
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Sara T. Biggun posted:I'm still on some nebulous waiting list at Writer's Domain... have been for months. People have been on the waiting list since the Summer, I got in sometime in June. The work is dry there too, as they ran out of work earlier this month. The community is horrible about it too, frequently complaining about how the reviewers are not reviewing their work fast enough, or trying to keep it top secret when the daily drop of limited articles happens. ]
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2014 04:34 |
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I got this email from Writers Domain saying that "exciting changes are a coming"quote:Happy New Year! 2013 was an amazing year and 2014 looks to be even more promising. Article orders grew 30% in 2013 and, as many of you may have noticed, we recently expanded into Australia. We owe our growth to each of you and the work that you do. Thanks for your dedication to producing quality content for WritersDomain. First of all, they are talking about less work in February. I am wondering if other websites are going to see the same thing. I'm really curious if this has anything to do with the new google search algorithm Hummingbird? It seems like google is changing up how it ranks websites a bit. The focus is still on content, but more about content that gives answers to questions rather than blog style content that simply links back to a website without using a branded keyword. And then other things like having more entry pages to a website with helpful articles. I wonder how much of an impact it is going to have on SEO writing.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2014 05:28 |
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One of my SEO articles was reviewed at Writers Domain, the reviewer said that they are transitioning way from anecdotes next month so I should change up my writing style. Are a lot of other sites doing that too? Assuming this all has to do with Google, but I thought Hummingbird favored more casual blog style stuff.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2014 21:51 |
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Writers Domain released sample articles of what they expect for 400 words for $20. Here is a 5 star example and here is a 3 star example. Both pay the same, just the looming threat of "write lovely for us and we'll remove your account". Are these good rates for this kind of content? I really don't know if I am going to be putting in this kind of effort if there is somewhere else I should go to write the same stuff but make more money. In theory, if you write enough 5 star articles they will give you access to 600 word $40 articles, but I don't think I'm capable of getting to that point. Basically... I miss the old days where I was able to churn out 200 words in under 5 minutes about drat near anything for $3.30. There is a lot less emphasis on anecdotes or general information, more focus on researched articles without common knowledge.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2014 18:28 |
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Writers Domain has been turning into a frustrating mess since they changed formats from 200 word $3.30 articles to 400 word $20 articles. It took me 45 minutes to write one instead of the usual 10 minutes. I have been seeing people post their reviewer comments online, these simple SEO articles are being send back for content revisions up to two times, some times rejecting them. The reviews between the original and both revisions are sometimes twice as long as the articles themselves. It's kind of crazy... There use to be a article count that was shrinking each day, it's actually been growing each day! These are a series of reviews I found on a 400 word article on "Cataracts" quote:Monday, March 3rd 2014, 2:33:21 pm - The flow of this article is good. You introduce ideas and definitions well, and your train of thought is easy to follow. You have lots of good information and you sound authoritative. The main issues with this article are flow and grammar. Keep sentences short for readability. "Cataracts, due to aging, occurs when the eye lens loses its nourishment due to hardening of the arteries of other diseases, like diabetes mellitus, that prevent the blood supply from reaching the vitreous, which is the water substance that surrounds and nourishes the lens." This is a very long sentence and is hard to get through. Try instead "Cataracts often form when a person's arteries harden and prevent blood from reaching the vitreous, the area that surrounds and nourishes the lens." The information that was removed is interesting, but distracting and not necessary to understanding cataracts. In the section on antioxidants there is some redundancy and confusion. The importance of taking antioxidants is mentioned three times. The second sentence introduces a list of substances; it can be assumed that these are antioxidants, but it's not explicitly stated. The fourth sentence doesn't tell the reader the actual role of selenium, vitamin E, and zinc in eye health; it simply restates that they are necessary. When talking about cataracts, sometimes a plural pronoun is used and sometimes a singular pronoun is used. When talking about "cataracts," say "they." When talking about the disease, say "it." Use the Oxford comma. It is the last comma in a list before the word "and." For example, " B vitamins, beta-carotene, zinc, and selenium." "Cataract development decreases in those who do not smoke, wear sunglasses when outdoors, reduce saturated fats in their diets and eat more green leafy vegetables." In this sentence, it sounds like "do not" applies to everything listed, not just smoking. The article needs a conclusion. Just 2-3 sentences that make the reader want to do something or share the article for some reason. In that same vein, use "you" phrases more in the article to relate it to the reader and help them want to take action. For example, "In addition to creating a cataract nutritional program, you may need to make certain lifestyle changes to prevent or reverse cataracts successfully" (this is a revised version of the first sentence in the last paragraph). This engages the reader and avoids passive sentences. Use this tone throughout for consistency. Who is Dr. Weil? Identify people and define unfamiliar terms. I have a feeling writers are not going to be able to adapt to their content nazi changes, when before you could pretty much submit anything as long as it had proper keywords and good grammar. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Mar 5, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 5, 2014 18:20 |
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Nighthand posted:Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to get the format down and rull in the money. I wish they'd accept me already so I could give it a shot. I edited and put more specifics up above with the feedback they've been giving. I completely agree. I'd keep an eye on registration in case they start cutting writers. So far I have not heard of anyone's accounts being deactivated, but it's only been 3 days and I've seen a lot of people frustrated with the changes.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2014 18:24 |
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Turtlicious posted:It sounds like they just have pre-fabbed sentences to use when they see a mistake, so they tally up the mistakes then paste in the sentences. I don't think so... I just read a 400 word review about an article that calls out very specific things and offers suggestions. Either way, I am just not use to people being this critical on content. Nitrousoxide posted:Just gonna throw this out there. At 10 minutes a pop for 3.3 dollars per article, you are making, on average, slightly less than 20 dollars an hour. Plus you have to be productive for every minute of that hour. At 45 minutes for 20 dollars you make slightly more and have 15 minutes to either goof off or put into another project per hour. Well I haven't been told to revise my article yet though, so there could still be more to it. It's a lot more challenging trying to come up with a unique spin on an article instead of making up an anecdote about pretty much any topic. It also requires a lot more time. I am use to being able to write an article or two during my lunch break at work.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2014 19:51 |
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Looks like Writers Domain is hiring content editors, so maybe they are planning on hiring more writers https://boostability.recruiterbox.com/jobs/30543?referer=indeed
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2014 00:39 |
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I guess if anybody was curious about what is going on at Writers Domain.... they started with 5000 article March 1st, and now are up to 15,000. So PLENTY of work. They posted these charts to their Facebook page Only 49% of articles are going through with no revisions... On the flip side, 45% of writers have not received a single review for the articles they wrote in March. They posted an ad that they are hiring reviewers, the reviews are getting less detailed, and some High Priority articles are getting reviewed within 24 hours. I am now getting generic review responses from them instead of the 500 word critics of a 400 word SEO article. On their Facebook page people have asked about expanding the article limit to 100 articles instead of 80, and they said they have plenty of writers to handle their current workload. The article count keeps growing every day, and there are a lot of writers not writing in fear of losing their account (mainly because they haven't receive their first critique
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 19:36 |
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thylacine posted:So Ginger is free for only limited times a week. Is there an open source or free equivalent to it or Grammarly? I've been using this site http://www.paperrater.com/
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2014 05:36 |
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Wasn't there a site people mentioned where you can put up articles, and if someone wants it they buy it they can? I have two rejected articles I can't get through Writers Domain, but they are still good enough where I'd take $10 for them for 400-600 word articles just to get something from them.
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# ¿ May 1, 2014 19:30 |
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An Old Boot posted:I was looking around to see if there's any dedicated watchdog sites for freelancers, because there really should be. Looking up reviews for various transcription sites on the web gets basically a bunch of scattered hits, and always makes me wish there was a dedicated aggregate site, one that starts putting more pressure on companies like this. I know it's wishful thinking, but, at the same time, it seems like it'd be an incredibly useful tool for people who aren't aware of, say, this thread. I've seen the links in this thread to FreelancerWatchDogs, so not to step on any toes. There is a website I go to called CloudMeBaby which has people that primarily use MTurk, but also have subforums for cloud based writing. There have a posting requirement so people don't lurk and not contribute (I think it's like 2 posts a month), but the owners are very much in favor of having open communication and not hiding things from select users. It's been a huge problem with sites like TurkerNation, where there is a elite group of people who have access to the super secret forums where they can interact with requesters and get special qualifications, because they are paranoid of newbies taking all the work.
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# ¿ May 8, 2014 22:06 |
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Apparently Writers Domain took a large chunk of about 3,000 400 word articles and outsourced them to Text Broker and Writers Access. I can't confirm personally, but the article count went down instantly the other day and those same keywords are now appearing on those sites. This was on their Facebook page today quote:WritersDomain.net We have a lot of older articles that need to be written so we've enlisted the help of other places. We'll also be hiring soon.
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# ¿ May 13, 2014 22:44 |
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They turned off the article cap at Writers Domain for the first 15 days of May for a contest. Usually it's 80 articles a month for $1,600. Some writers I spoke with have written as many as 10 a day so far to take advantage of it. If I knew they were going to send stuff over to TextBroker for $4.25 a piece instead of $20, I would have outsourced them to you guys for much more than that.
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# ¿ May 14, 2014 19:06 |
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For those getting into Writers Domain, I'll post my tips on what I think they like based on my past 150 or so accepted articles under the new format. If anybody has any questions, ask away! quote:Title The only other weird grammar thing that I found they are picky about is the oxford comma. I can't think of anything else 'writing style' wise to be aware of. Maybe it's spelled out in the writing guidelines now. At one point they were picky about a single space after periods, but now they are not. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 21:24 on May 20, 2014 |
# ¿ May 20, 2014 20:16 |
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:That's super helpful, thanks! The headers thing never would have occurred to me for a 400-word article. Or writing such short paragraphs. It... might take me a while to get the hang of this. If you check out the blog posts at the end of February they have some example articles. It's a bit misleading, as the 5 star examples are not representative of what they want at all in terms of content, with no actionable specifics. But they give you an idea of content structure.
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# ¿ May 21, 2014 03:41 |
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:All of my articles have been accepted to WritersDomain so far! Not that I've written many. Picking a keyword seems to be the hardest part for me. There are a shitton of them and it seems like I haven't the slightest idea what to write about 90% of them. Possibly it will get easier to bullshit my way through with time. Having a ton of keywords has actually been great for me. I pretty much write about whatever I want, and I can find a keyword that fits the article which is great. When they had the 200 word $3.30 articles, and you could write 500 a month, they would be snapped up so quickly that you just sort of had to make due with what you had. If you need ideas, just type the keyword into any of these sites. http://goarticles.com/ http://www.articlecity.com/ http://www.articlealley.com/ http://ezinearticles.com/
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# ¿ May 22, 2014 13:20 |
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:I'm cool with just going with most of my weird revision requests, but man. I just got dinged for not being specific enough with the statement, "There are many different kinds of [x], depending on your needs." Even though that was immediately followed by a list of examples. It's... literally just a list of my introductory sentences, complaining that they do not in and of themselves contain the content of the following paragraph. I mean, I'll find a way to fix it, but... Sometimes you just get an idiot reviewer. I almost guarantee if you simply reword the sentence it will pass when the next reviewer sees it.
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# ¿ May 23, 2014 15:41 |
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At WD, reviewers have the option of coming in on Holidays. But it also depends on what you are writing. If you are using the Get Next Standard Article button, it should be put to the front of the queue. If it is from the browse articles section, it could take a long time or it could be reviewed instantly depending on what due date you selected and how full their queue is. You also could have written an article, and then the client put their work on hold, so their articles are not in the queue available to reviewers. I had one sit for 1 1/2 months like that at the most singled out extreme case during extreme craziness with the new format. I then had one go out for revisions, submitted the revision, and it sat in the queue for almost a month for the same reason. But their internal goal is that your articles will be reviewed in two weeks, and just because they are super fast now, don't expect them to always be that way. I don't use the GNA button, and I have 1 pending from 5/21, 2 from 5/22, 1 from 5/24, 5/25, and 5/26. And then about 16 approved all within that 6 day time frame as well. A LOT of people will write those lovely topics about rotary lube pumps or whatever, because they need their money now, and desperate to hit that Pay Me Now button every day. Use GNA if you want faster reviews. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 26, 2014 |
# ¿ May 26, 2014 22:54 |
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:Thanks for the info, Astro! You have been super helpful so far, I feel like I have the inside scoop. I'm willing to wait for now, since the GNA button seems potentially soulcrushing. The only ones I don't think I'd ever be able to do are the ones that are less a keyword, and more an extremely specific sentence. No problem! I have no idea how people write for those and not get a revision request... I assume they are vary lenient on the keyword use now that we don't need to include it in the articles. You just have to write in the general realm of the keyword. They all get posted on those fake blogs, I found one of my dental articles on this on: http://dentalcoveragequote.info/
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# ¿ May 27, 2014 19:04 |
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Writers Domain is really messing with the queue right now. So they removed all the articles available to write except for the ones due yesterday, which they have a good reason to do. Except now there is about 50 keywords to pick from. Being able to write about virtually anything, and plug it into a keyword was really nice. I knew it couldn't last for very long.
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# ¿ May 29, 2014 19:17 |
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Knightmare posted:I recently got accepted to Writer's Domain and did a bunch of articles on keywords I knew about, they pay $20 an article and they'd take me anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes. Now I'm having to do some research on keywords I'm not experienced with which bumps it up to an hour due to research. I'm still pretty new to writing, and still learning the kind of stuff they like to see, but hopefully when I get that down I can average about 45 minutes, ~$30/hr. The cap has been indefinitely turned off since May 1st. They might turn it back on, who knows…. people I know have been writing 5-10 a day, cashing out once a day.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2014 05:47 |
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Any Writers Domain writers here? They are lowering their rates Sept 1st Standard 400 Word Articles (originally $20/article) 3 Stars - $15 4 or 5 Stars - $17.50 Premium Articles (Originally $40/article) 3 Stars - $34 4 or 5 Stars - $38 http://blog.writersdomain.net/2014/08/27/update-to-payment-structure/
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 21:29 |
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Oh god, the forums there are horrible… people take offense to the wording in boiler plate reviews as if it was a personal attack on them. i did the math, and I'd lose about 20% of my earnings over the past 6 months under this new payment system. It's still good pay for WFH crappy SEO articles that nobody will read, but after taxes it now comes to about $12 per 400 word article for me. I just wish the quality standards went down with the pay. Earlier today I was asked to provide a citation that dentures will dry out if you do not leave them in water. The gently caress?
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 02:46 |
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darkwolf220 posted:I have been watching from a distance for a while and finally decided to give a few of these ideas a go since the local job market sucks and sitting at home doing nothing also sucks. I threw out a few applications at different freelance writing sites and heard back from textbroker today: 4 star rating. Good enough, I will give it a try if I can find any requests not involving e-vaping. How long did it take you to hear back from Text Broker? I mainly write at Writers Domain, but am looking to expand to more sites after WD just cut their pay by 12.5%-25% per article. I heard that Text Broker is more lenient about stupid revision requests, unlike WD.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2014 04:56 |
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Writers domain is out of work for the first time since February...
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 01:25 |
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Nighthand posted:Google just nuked a bunch of private blog networks (which are generally spam) and surprise surprise the mid-tier garbage WD wants written all goes to those blogs. Work there will probably be short until they can establish a new network with a bit more obfuscation to make it last for another 6-12 months. Do you have any more info on this? Did they just have all their blogs delisted and now scrambling on what to do? Articles are still trickling in on WD too which is odd. They had a small drop of articles this morning but they are all gone
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 15:41 |
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Nighthand posted:https://www.seroundtable.com/google-hits-private-blog-networks-19196.html Oh I save everything I write for them Some of the sites I've found stuff on include http://dentalcoveragequote.info/ http://legalsocializer.com/ http://hammsgarage.com/ Shady looking as gently caress...
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 16:54 |
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So I've been doing a lot of lovely SEO writing recently, and the company runs everything through copyscape so I've just been throwing anything I reword into this tool to cover my rear end. Has worked great for the past several months. http://www.copyscape.com/compare.php I love how it works where it easily highlights 3 word + phrases that are identical in the way that copyscape compares a page. Is there anything that does the same thing, but offline? I can't imagine you actually need an internet connection to compare two documents. Copyscape's compare two documents tool does have a limit to how many times you can use it per day, which is annoying me kind of.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2015 06:29 |
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Does anybody here work for Writer's Domain? They have been posting a lot more work this month. Not enough to have articles constantly available, but at the article drop times it has been lasting several hours instead of just minutes like before..
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2015 15:21 |
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Does anybody write for Writer's Domain? What a poo poo show over there... they have put in a policy that can get your account banned for refreshing the article page too quickly, because too many people just hammer on the refresh button all day long hoping to get work.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 03:44 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:21 |
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Pikestaff posted:You can make $15-18 on a 400 word article at Writers' Domain but I always had trouble snagging anything from them because they tend to put batches up at a couple of set times that everyone swarms. I'm also honestly not sure if they're open for new writers right now. WD has not had open applications for US-English writers since Summer 2014. As for Feb 1st they were looking for European writers that have native (or near-native) level fluency of German and Dutch. Is anybody else still working on Writer's Domain though? Conditions have gotten much worse over there recently. While you could depend on certain days to get a ton of work, it now only lasts for 3 hours instead of 9-10 hours on those days.
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