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SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Android Apocalypse posted:

Also, AFAIK there aren’t that many famous female Renaissance artists known enough to name a Ninja Turtle after.

You say that like any kid who was into the turtles had heard of raphael or donatello before they were turtles.

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SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Aleph Null posted:

True.

Did find this about lady artists of the Renaissance. http://www.artcyclopedia.com/hot/women-artists-of-the-renaissance.html so there were some to pick from.

I noticed you didn't mention Leonardo because, yes, everybody knows who that is.

drat right, dude was a renaissance mad scientist, inventing tanks and helicopters and writing backwards in code. Kids are all about that poo poo. And michaelangelo lying on his back painting the sistene chapel is a famous (if apocryphal) image, and Michaelangelos David is a pretty famous sculpture, so some kids might have at least heard of him. But as a kid I'd never heard of Raphael, and as an adult I'm still not really sure what the non-ninja turtle version of Donatello even did without a quick google.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Krispy Wafer posted:

What exactly is Immortan Joe's facemask? I mean it's a respirator I guess, but he can open the mouth and when it's pulled off it takes a big chunk of his face with it - which isn't how facemasks work. If he wore it all the time I could maybe understand that, but they show him putting it on in the morning.


The mask was pulled off at speed, I just assume that, much like getting a watch or a ring you can normally remove caught in a rotary machine, this caused him to have a real bad time.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Krankenstyle posted:

I figured his face is hosed up, maybe untreated mouth/nose cancer (google image search that phrase for grossness), and the mask was to protect & alleviate that situation. Then it gets pulled off wrong & degloved his face :gonk:

Yeah, I wasnt sure if "degloved" was the right term if its not your hand, and no way in hell am I googling to find out. DeSki-masked?

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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DandyLion posted:

This is only in the extended cut, which almost nobody's seen unfortunately.

Is this one of these things where the UK cut of the film is different from the US? Like how Army of Darkness had a different ending? Because I swear that scene is in the cut of the film (on VHS) I grew up watching. As far as I remember the box didnt mention it being an extended cut or anything. The only extended version of a highlander film I've seen is the renegade edition of highlander two which... Well, it tries. If I remember correctly the directors commentary features the director basically apologizing for the film and coming up with excuses as to why it sucks.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Sid Vicious posted:

In the movie Rush Hour, Jackie Chan says to Chris Tucker "can you understand the words coming out of my mouth" and Chris Tucker replies that no one can understand the words he speaks, but for him to have responded in this manner he absolutely would have had to understand the words that were coming out of his mouth.

Dude, we get the gimmick. Know when to stop.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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No one can play a good greaser in the modern era because over time that style has migrated from visual shorthand for "troubled delinquent, possibly violent" to "wannabe leatherdaddy".

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Eh, Punisher War Zone is a fine dumb fun action movie. I'd argue its possibly the best movie version of the punisher (Thomas Jane was a great punisher, but John Travolta wasnt a good villain). The basic problem with the punisher as a movie is that its about a muscular white guy with a military background who uses guns to kill many people to avenge his loved ones. In comics thats a bit different and you can do some interesting things with it. In movies its about 95% of hollywoods output and doesnt bring much new to the table other than branding.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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rantmo posted:

In Chicago we now have Taco Bell Cantinas which are Taco Bells (Tacos Bell?) that sell booze.

Tacus Belli.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Cleretic posted:

Scooby-Doo never really stopped being kinda hilarious about celebrity cameos, mostly by just committing really hard to the bit. Just a few years ago, they did a movie with KISS, and it's probably even more ridiculous than you're picturing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V25nZdIjUGI

There's also the TV series that ended with Harlan Ellison recruiting Mystery Inc.

I have a friend whose daughter had a KISS themed 4th birthday party. Kiss dress, kiss facepaint, kiss cake. Neither parent is a fan of the band (both more into 90s rock/indie). Its because the daughter loves (and I mean LOVES) the kiss/scooby doo movie.

I dont know how much of their actual music she has listened to, if any, but she has a shitload of KISS themed merchandise all the same.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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trickybiscuits posted:

What the hell? The film was from 1967, the role was a parody of hippies but Dick Shawn made it amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ht5we3qzY How is that offensive?

I think he means that in the '67 version he was a burnout/hippy. In the '05 musical film (and presumably the stage show it was based on) the hippy role is replaced with a camp gay stereotype. So over time (in the remake) the original version was replaced with an arguably more offensive version.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Long story short: Its happening, it might or might not have Urban back as dredd (he'll come back if he likes the scripts and they can make scheduling work), it doesnt have a home on a streaming service yet (but will probably get one) and doesnt have a release date yet. Dont get me wrong, I'm glad its happening, but I refuse to get truly hype about it until I have at least one of those details confirmed...

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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When Samuel was removed it left a Mark.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Cleretic posted:

I just want to know what Thanos thinks about all the innocent people that died because half of the universe turned to dust.

There's people who died on the operating table because the doctor got snapped. Aircraft that crashed because suddenly they didn't have a pilot (we see this one, like, immediately in Infinity War's post-credits). He quite clearly didn't just kill half the universe, he definitely killed far more just by nature of what he did. Does he care? Was the 50/50 thing actually important to him, or did he just decide 'eh, close enough good enough'?

When you wipe out half the living beings in the universe a couple of planes and whatnot arent even a rounding error.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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I'm pretty sure he killed 50% of the whales too.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Cat Hatter posted:

Hammond is still a tool. Keep stuff cold a bit longer and close the door behind you.

And thats why your grandkids will get eaten by velociraptors.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Foxfire_ posted:

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Fast and Furious I is literally a remake of Point Break with cars instead of surfing
Fast and Furious II is a generic 80's action movie made in 2003
Fast and Furious III is the Karate Kid but with cars instead of karate
Fast and Furious IV+ are superhero movies where everyone's superpower is CAR, and CAR can solve all problems somehow.

Hey! HEY! Thats not fair at all! The Rocks superpower is MUSCLE, and MUSCLE can solve all problems not directly solvable by CAR. And Jason Stathams superpower may be GUN or possibly KICK (although they both of course also minor in CAR. Actually in The Rocks case his minor is in SUV, but close enough). Those movies are dumb as hell in the best possible way, and if you watch them in the mindset of "These guys are car wizards, having car wizard duels" they are fun as hell. It is also loving hilarious to watch some of the later ones with the fate of the world as the stakes, and remember that this is started as a movie franchise about some meathead car thieves who like to go fast.

BiggerBoat posted:

I've never seen any of the John Wick movies and have heard they're good but jesus christ is the whole movie just some guy basically doing a mass shooting except he's ostensibly the hero and doing it artistically so now it's Cool? I watched that clip someone posted and did not like it. Holy poo poo I don't want to watch anything like that for 2 hours no matter how sympathetic the dude's cause might be. gently caress almighty it just looks like bullet/gun fetish porn. Is there more to it?

I feel the same way about the Fast and Furious movies because from what I can tell it's just car chases and Dudes Being Cool Going Fast (And loving Hot Chicks) and have also never seen any of those just out of a general lack of interest.

Cracking up at too at John Wick and F&F movies coming up in the subtle movie moments thread. These movies don't look subtle but maybe I'm missing out on something.

Am I missing anything or have I got these films about pegged? Seriously not trying to sound like a film snob and I like good action movies but god drat from the clips and discussions I'm just nope.

If this is you trying not to sound like a film snob, you must be INSUFFERABLE when you arent trying. "Let me tell you why you are wrong to say there is anything subtle about the movies you like which I have not seen"? And then you get pissy when people point out what a dumb thing to say that is? Although I am slightly curious how you "like a good action movie" but dont like to see car chases or gun violence (and have failed to see John Wick, one of the most widely praised action movies of the last decade)? Are we talking only kung-fu movies set pre-1900 or what? John Wick is on Netflix. It would take what, 2 hours to watch it? You might enjoy it or you might not, but at least then you would have an informed opinion instead of just a loud one.

So I'm clear; you are absolutely allowed to not like the fast and furious films. Those movies are dumb as hell, although extremely entertaining if you enjoy dumb movies (and watching actors with creative control egos inflate in real time), but if you dont like that kind of thing, fair enough. You are also absolutely allowed to not like John Wick. That is an opinion which someone could theoretically have, and although I would argue that, unlike the F&F franchise, John Wick is both an extremely good action movie and also a good quality film, theres no accounting for taste. And there are valid criticisms to be made of movies in either franchise. You are also allowed to not watch them! But look at this post you made, apparently on purpose. Look at it. You are asking people to engage with your opinions about movies you have not even seen, while simultaneously refusing to engage with the opinions of people who have actually seen those films. You are allowed to just think "Those movies arent for me" and let discussion of them pass you by, thats what most people do when discussion turns to movies they havent seen and arent interested in seeing.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Queen Combat posted:

For some reason I thought Roach was just whatever he named his current horse, like Air Force One.

Thats the case in the books (and IIRC book Geralt doesnt particularly give a poo poo about any of his horses. He calls them all roach for convinience and doesnt get attached to them. When they get eaten/stolen/run away hes more annoyed at the inconvenience than anything else.). In the games (and possibly the show? Havent watched it yet, but I wouldnt be surprised at all) Roach is Geralts Horse and he cares about him.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Mr. Bad Guy posted:

I know that this is an old trope with many iterations, but for some reason in my head you are specifically talking about Elmyra Duff from Tiny Toon Adventures.

Mine too, because my initial response was "Since when was tiny toons an old cartoon?" then I realised "Oh, thats right. I'm getting old.".

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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From what I remember the Colin Farrel Total Recall reboot was different enough that if felt more like a new attempt to adapt the book than a remake of the verhoeven film. Still wasnt particularly good though. If the original Robocop had never existed, but the newer one somehow still got made then I think it would be thought of as an okay action sci fi movie with a largely decent cast and some big flaws. But because its a remake of Robocop it suffers by comparison. A really good robocop remake would have had a hill to climb, a mediocre one was doomed.

Having said that, I think the most telling thing about either film to me personally is that I saw both of them in the cinema and I entirely forget that they exist unless something specifically reminds me.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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AFewBricksShy posted:

I was going to ask if the Alicia Vikander one was any good, then I remembered that I’ve seen it and I don’t remember a single thing about it.

I actually watched it quite recently. The cast were fine, but the plot was a whole lot of nothing tbh. Had the same problem that a lot of movies have when the studio anticipates it being a massive franchise; The movie spends its entire runtime getting to the point where it should have been by the 20 minutes mark, setting up a hypothetical interesting sequel instead of making an interesting first movie that they can sequelise later if its a hit. Like no-one on this earth gives half a poo poo about Lara Croft working as a cycle courier in london, cut it out and get on with the tomb raiding. It it apparently getting a sequel though, unlike a lot of movies that pull that poo poo.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

In the movie she refuses to believe her father is really dead so she won't sign the documents that transfer the company all their money is tied up in over to her.

She does at the end.

It is the dumbest poo poo. If she had signed the transfer documents at the start of the drat movie, she could have then used her fathers wealth to search for her father. Then if/when she found him, he could have been given it back. Someone being declared dead then found to be alive isnt exactly without legal precedence, but she acts like if she signs the document her father would immediately explode into nothingness. So yeah, she spends the first 20 minute or so of the movie as a cycle courier in london, introducing some side characters who are never mentioned again after those first 20 minutes. Again, cast were fine (Vikander is a decent actress, Walton Goggins is always good value) but the supporting cast (Kristen Scott Thomas and Daniel Wu) are given absolutely nothing to work with, and the main cast are just given bullshit to work with. Dominic West seems to realise that the only chance he has with that script is to ham it up as much as possible, an acting choice I think of as "Dennis Hopper in Waterworld" and fully support.

Having said that, I'll probably watch the sequel to see if they fix the issues having dealt with the tedious set up in the first movie. 7/10.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

I mean, going back to it now it's kind of just "alright" but I remember thining it was pretty good when it came out- superhero movies have just come a pretty decent way since then, so it's kind of generic and not up to the standards of, say, any marvel movie since Cap 2. That was the point where Marvel movies started really doing their own thing beyond "2000's superhero movie" stuff.

A friend of mine was planning on watching all the marvel movies in order, and we were talking about Thor (amongst others), and I'd totally agree; For its time it was pretty good. You have to consider the majority of comic book movies that came before it, and considering that its Thor, so its not just a "heres a dude with powers/a suit that give him powers in a world roughly the same as ours" but instead having to introduce "Yeah, there are super powerful aliens who are sort of the norse gods, but also sort of not really?", and was the most out there of the first few marvel movies in terms of design (the Kirby inspired Asgardians as opposed to Iron Man or Hulk where again most of the world looks like ours, and most people dress like real people).

Its just that marvel movies fairly quickly moved to the point where they didnt have to be just "superhero movie" but could be "space opera with superheroes" or "heist move, with superheroes", so in comparison to movies that came out within a few years of it Thor 1 looks kind of unambitious and by the numbers. I know a lot of people get sniffy about marvel movies, but if nothing else you have to be impressed that Marvel, over the course of a decade, got to the point where they can make successful (and fun) summer blockbuster movies out of the Guardians of the Galaxy and goddamn Ant Man. I've been a comic book fan since I was a kid, and the worst of the MCU movies is still miles above the quality of the average comicbook movie of the 90s.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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General Kenobi was just to distinguish him from Specific Kenobi.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

There were a ton of different spellings before Jazz was standardized, one of the oldest ads for a jazz performance even mentions four different spellings.

Its all about the letters you dont use.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Regarde Aduck posted:

they really seemed to care about the product. Maybe because they had to? To make anything look decent they HAD to work for it. Now it's so easy for them so they keep releasing poo poo. Although its scripts that have got hit the worst. It's so obvious that at some point in the 2010's the paradigm shifted and they decided causality and logic didn't matter as long as the script keeps moving. Never stop even for a second. Coherence is dumb. Just. Keep. Moving.

That's how you get the new star wars films and poo poo like ST: into darkness where no ones actions make any sense because it's just to get to the next set piece.

In all fairness, other #1 films in the US in 1993 include Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3, Cop and a Half, Cliffhanger and The Beverly Hillbillies. So yeah, 90% of movies that come out now are trash, no doubt but 90% of movies that came out then were also trash. Its just you remember the ones you like.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Push El Burrito posted:

Except Cliffhanger and Beverly Hillbillies ruled.

Cliffhanger isnt even in the conversation for the best Stallone film of 1993. But sure, pretend I said "Sliver" and "Striking Distance" instead if it helps.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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CainFortea posted:

Um

Top films in 1993

    Jurassic Park
    Mrs Doubtfire
    The Fugitive
    Schindler's List
    The Firm
    Indecent Proposal
    Cliffhanger
    Sleepless in Seattle
    Philadelphia
    The Pelican Brief

Cop and a half and TMNT 3 opened at number 1 for their opening week. Like, TMNT grossed 1/5th total what the last movie on that top 10 list made.

Yes? The point I'm making is simply that 1993 wasnt some mythic golden age where all films respected "causality and logic". The final gross of the films is pretty irrelevant, I just needed a list of films that were released in 1993, and I stuck to ones that were at least briefly popular (were #1 for that week) as it wouldnt be a fair arguement to use films that sank without a trace or went straight to video. Pointing out it was the year that Weekend at Bernies II, The Real McCoy and Mr Nanny came out wouldnt have felt like a fair comparision. Same way I picked 1993 to be emblematic of "pre 2010" because its the year Jurassic Park and Schindlers List came out. It was a year where Spielberg brought his absolute A-game, I'd never argue it wasnt, but in any year there are some good films, some fun movies, and a whole bunch of absolute trash. And I say that as someone who loves the right kind of trash. Honestly my movie pick of '93 is Demolition Man and its not even a tough decision. Actually, on further investigation, Army of Darkness came out in 1993, that does make it more of a tough decision...

Hell, even if I'd gone with the list of top grossing films, I see at least 3 on there which I would argue are, if not absolute trash, at the very least least trash adjacent. But its a harder argument to make (because unlike cop and a half people have nostalgia for even the trash films that were popular when they were kids) and I was feeling lazy, so low hanging fruit made the point instead. Just not the absolute lowest.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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CainFortea posted:

You brought up "#1 movies", in a manner implying big very popular movies.

I mean, if I was going by overall gross, then there wouldnt be a list of multiple #1 movies for 1993, there would be one. Because it would have had the #1 gross for the year, excluding the vanishingly small chance that two movies grossed the exact same amount that year. I didnt say that "other top ten grossing movies of the year included...", I said "other #1 films in the US included". If I said "#1 singles of 1993 included Informer by Snow", no-one would be confused or feel compelled to point out that "well actually I will always love you by Whitney Houston sold more overall", would they? Each of the movies I mentioned was in fact the most popular movie for at least a week in 1993 which matters because, and I feel I've explained this before, but you appear to have missed it, the point I was making was that it is EXTREMELY misleading to compare someones favorite movies from 1993 (or any other past year) with their least favourite movies from a recent year and use that to decide that movies now are worse than movies then. I dont think anyone else thought I was implying that Cop and A Half outgrossed Jurassic Park.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Cleretic posted:

I don't want a modern Home Alone focused on adult Kevin so I can see him do the same trap-based shenanigans. I want to see it so that I can find out Kevin got to move away from his neglectful and borderline-abusive family.

...poo poo, I've always wanted the anti-Christmas movie about someone who learns that they don't have to deal with all the ceremony and visiting family if they don't want to. Maybe that's just about Kevin McAllister.

Isnt a modern Home Alone with an adult Kevin basically Saw?

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

The plot thickens.

:getin:

You need to stop calling yours "the plot", and definitely stop telling us every time it thickens.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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MyronMulch posted:

You speak as if this was a bad thing

I feel like in 2022 no-one should have to explain to you why more infected people = bad, no matter how you feel about the particular people.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Warbird posted:

That makes me wonder if every country/society had a “War of the Worlds” incident as people gained mass exposure to radio plays or tv or whatever.

I feel I need to point out that the UK had mass exposure to radio plays and tv for some while before 1992.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Can't even lie, genesys is one of my favorite bad movies. It knows it sucks and it dives headfirst into "don't give a gently caress" and just unleashes crazy poo poo.

I've not seen all the sequels to T2, but out of T3, Salvation and Genesys... I dont know that I'd argue that Genesys was the best of the 3 as such, but it is the one I enjoyed watching the most.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Keanu Reeves goes uncredited as Ortiz The Dog Boy in Freaked.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Isn't she already Dr Strange's ex?

Sorta.

flavor.flv posted:

I thought the night nurse was Claire from the Netflix shows

Also sorta.

Netflix were going to make Claire from the Netflix Daredevil "Night Nurse", but then in the middle of writing it at the script approval stage they got a note from Marvel that they were intending to use Night Nurse in a movie, so Christine Palmer is off limits. So they rewrote the part using the less well known Claire Temple, but still performing the same function as night nurse, but isnt Night Nurse, although IIRC someone still refers to her by that name once.

The use of Night Nurse in the movies is that Dr Christine Palmer is Doctor Stranges ex who has barely any screen time, but technically is the night nurse character, nobody calls her night nurse on screen and she doesnt really do any of the things that character would do, but she is technically the same Night Nurse character. Which is probably why they got Rachel McAdams in such a nothing role, in case they decided later to do something with her.

So, you have the Netflix character, who is an existing character who isnt Night Nurse, doing the job of Night Nurse and being called Night Nurse (probably because they missed it in the script revision, possibly just as an easter egg). You also have the Doctor Strange movie character who is an existing character who is night nurse, but she doesnt do that and no one calls her that. Yay cross platform IP exploitation.

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SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

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Not that uncommon, I hear your mom has hidden a cockatoo in her time.

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