Baronjutter posted:

Every single co-op I've ever heard of has always fell into horrible drama, the more hippie-ish the more likely. All this cooperation and democracy and communal labour sounds nice but all it takes is a single disagreement and suddenly the entire building is a hostile environment and nothing gets done and poo poo is falling apart. A dude I knew bought into one somewhere in central BC that was a group of "like minded" arty hippie types and within a few months it was basically survivor with factions and plots and people forming alliances to kick other people out or make life miserable for them. And these aren't idiot 20-somethings these are fully grown adults. Then again co-ops tend to attract a few "types".

In a more urban setting a co-op near me for more rich people ended with a legal clusterfuck when some of the owners decided to just do renos and additions without approval from the co-op. Last I heard they've spent more on legal fees than the renos were worth, mostly fighting each other in a couple blocs of residents. One side is demanding the people who did the renos to pay to restore things to how they were, mostly out of spite, while the people who did the renos to their unit are demanding compensation or something to reflect the "increased value" they added. It's apparently a deadlock so the co-op can't resolve it so off to court.

Condo strats are bad enough and those at least have legal ownership, co-ops are just a recipe for cliques and politics and getting absolutely hosed because you didn't make the right political alliances. I'm sure it's a bit like e/n where you only hear about the hosed up situations, I'm sure there's successful drama-free co-ops.

Cultural Imperial posted:

I don't want to bail your stupid rear end out while you live high on the loving hog like a motherfucker baller leasing out beemers and poo poo, like every loving vancouverite does.

Cultural Imperial posted:

And you really shouldn't. Vancouver is a nice place but the people are absolute scum. I say this as someone who grew up in Vancouver and is now living in Seattle. God, the Americans might subscribe to some loving dumb rear end politics but at least they're nice people.

Cultural Imperial posted:

I have to explain to friends and family that just because you rent, doesn't mean you're homeless. I can't seem to convince the majority of my social circle of this fact.

Baronjutter posted:

Can't wait to trust a strata council 20 years from now to keep the system and security up to date. Who are we kidding, poo poo like this is installed to quick sell a condo and then be abandoned by the strata a year later for probably quite valid cost and security issues.

etalian posted:

also lol:

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I feel like I'm having a schizophrenic breakthrough, because I suddenly see all the connections between lovely 3hr commutes, inflated suburban property values, miserable Torontonians/905ers and the election of Rob Ford.



It's.... beautiful.

Shifty Pony posted:

Wait you can rent a goddamn furnace? This is a business model that exists?

Rick Rickshaw posted:

Link? As a cyclist, I enjoy car-commute schadenfreude.

Cultural Imperial posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/british-columbia/topstories/micro-condos-promoted-as-affordable-real-estate-in-surrey-1.2932464

quote:

"To be honest with you, it's fairly small, but for the price, it's worth it," said Ramadan Eshref, who visited the sales centre and was considering buying a suite in the building for his son, a recent university graduate.

"For a single man like my son, for example, it's reasonable. Hopefully it will be a start for him."

Cultural Imperial posted:

James Cheng just got his poo poo pushed in by some nimbys. A loss for this gently caress face is a victory for all.

Kafka Esq. posted:

Jesus, gently caress. That's exactly what McCain said just before the American economy took a nosedive in 2008.

Baudin posted:

I love the "turning pristine wilderness into mordor" line

Have you fuckers ever driven around Fort Mac and seen your "pristine wilderness?" It's hardly some shining wilderness which is being converted to a smoke and tar filled landscape. Really wish I had taken some pictures of the landscape while I was up there.

e: I'm not saying that they're doing a swell job at environmental reclamation, but saying they're destroying pristine wilderness is a bit based on what I would term favourably as a bog.

etalian posted:

-Can you remember any premier made in Canada products similar to BMW, Iphone or Google?

etalian posted:

Professor Shark posted:

Reminder that Hal used to fly off the handle with incredibly unintelligible and bizarre arguments whenever he stopped taking his medication (not that I'm upset to see him back- hey bud! ).

Speaking of unintelligible and bizarre arguments, I had one with my girlfriend last night re: Direct Energy (I sat my rear end down and caught up with the thread last night). I thought that DE sounded familiar and asked her about it, it turns out that a few months ago she'd told me that her sister was using them and that she thought that we should too. When I told her about what I'd read she became upset and told me that they aren't a scam and that not everything on the Internet is true.

So e/n, can you tell me more about Direct Energy I guess?

etalian posted:

more like abbots can't afford Vancouver

PT6A posted:

Coffee places seem to attract pretentious, self-important wastes of flesh like nothing else. It probably stems from the same mental defect that makes paying $5-6 for a beverage you can make at home for peanuts seem like a good idea.

Rime posted:

The day after drinking two or three cups of Deathwish I finally realized the hypocrisy in banning amphetamines but not caffeine.

Rime posted:

You know it's been Schedule 1 for years and they largely refuse to prescribe it now due to the hassle involved, right?

Lexicon posted:

No wonder [especially Western] Canadians think renting is for losers. This is some bullshit boarding school dormitory poo poo, and shouldn't be tolerated.

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Too bad for all the people in this thread who seem to do desperately want to see others suffer, I guess.

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Yes, clearly the guy welding oil pipeline pieces together is a shameful human being because

Whiteycar posted:

Just another signpost on all signs point to duh for Calgary City Council being in the back pocket of developers.

Brannock posted:

Why would we want a NDP government when Mulcair is actively trying as hard as he can to suck up to business interests?