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Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Shbobdb posted:

But it was televised. We all saw the building up the Iraq war and what a poo poo-show that was. We're experiencing a similar thing in Syria right now. Originally it was "Assad delenda est" and while that never caught enough steam for a boots-on-the-ground invasion, we did fund a bunch of military groups to take him out and establish their own presence in Syria (similar to how we used the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan). Now Assad is close to an ally while the powers-that-be say, "ISIS delenda est". Either way, they get their boots-on-the-ground invasion of Syria. The rest is just theater.

You are already attributing conspiracy to events in Syria before you could reasonably do so. What you wrote in that quote makes some sense if you already believe that the illuminati are orchestrating wars for their own ends.

An uprising in Syria against a dictator, against a backdrop of many similar uprisings across the Arab world was portraited by the media and the "new media" (online bloggers, online magazines etc) as people taking back their rights and freedom against evil dictators, in egypt especially this seemed like the case. When it happened in Syria the narrative continued and the media stoked up that we should be doing something to help these poor people. No one actually wanted boots on the ground and the situation never spiralled enough to force it. As a consequence of the civil war ISI seized an opportunity to send in experienced guerilla fighters into Syria and establish a strong presense as al-Nusra, which was very succesful, probably because of their battle experience to fight against Assad, eventually merging back with ISI and forming ISIL. Eventually it became obvious that the uprising had been taken over by people even more unplasent than Assad with designs beyond Syria. Now the western governments are forced to essentially ally with Assad to show people that they are dealing with ISIS

Geopolitics, electionering, religious and tribal differences and an hysterical media explain what is happening in Syria, with out any need for lizard puppet masters.

Also, i would be interested to know why the illuminati wants a boots on the ground invasion of Syria?

(p.s my summarizing of Syria and ISIS rise my well be a bit off, but I think that's the gist of it)

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Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Krotera posted:

This is the most consistently funny poster on the David Icke forums. Take notes!

My favourite poster on the Icke forums is tintin. He's basically got his own thread "The NEWS behind the news" in which he's been posting a never ending stream of the most amazing "dot connecting" I've ever seen. He started the thread in 2007 and has posted around 20,000 detailed updates.

Some of the links are truely eye opening. I can't really do it justice. Here's a recent sample which I defy anyone to make sense of

tintin;1062484453 posted:

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="Black"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Magenta"]Charlotte,[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Garland[/COLOR][/SIZE] & [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Sienna"]Horses.[/COLOR][/SIZE] II[/COLOR][/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Sienna"]
Blake [SIZE="3"][COLOR="Black"]dead:[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"] Pharoah[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]


On the day PHAROAH won the derby, MICHAEL BLAKE died.
The second MUMMY next to TRENTIN on that TINTIN cover
is E.P. JACOBINI and that's a reference to EDGAR P. JACOBS,
the creator of BLAKE and Mortimer



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Green"]Murray[/COLOR][/SIZE]

The YELLOW M means McDONALD's, founded on the birthday ANDY MURRAY



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Munich-[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"]Pharoah[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]

KEVIN COSTNER starring in this MICHAEL BLAKE story
and he is married to the GERMAN Christine BAUMGARTNER
and Skydiver FELIX BAUMGARTNER broke the World record
diving (39 km) on the birthday JAY PHAROAH

COSTNER born same date PEP GUARDIOLA, manager BAYERN MUNICH



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Wolves[/COLOR][/SIZE]

BAUMGARTNER born same date HITLER, who means WOLVES,
and born in SALZBURG, same as WOLFGANG Amadeus Mozart


[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"]
Pharaoh[/COLOR][/SIZE]


That MUMMY TRENTIN in the Tintin album died on 5 JULY in '32,
birthday MICHAEL BLAKE, who died the day PHAROAH won


[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]
Munich: [SIZE="3"][COLOR="Sienna"]Horse[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]


Mayor of MUNICH is Dieter REITER and that's (HORSE)RIDER in German



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Munich: [SIZE="3"][COLOR="Purple"]Iran[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]


Mayor REITER of MUNICH born in RAIN in Swabia.
RAIN anagram IRAN

OPERATION AJAX in IRAN and RICHARD McDONALD born
same date KERMIT ROOSEVELT, in charge of AJAX in IRAN.
REITER succeeded CHRISTIAN UDE, born on the exact same
day HILLARY CLINTON and AJAX on the birthday BILL CLINTON



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Teal"]Bodyguardiola: [SIZE="3"][COLOR="Blue"]Bathtub[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]

KEVIN COSTNER born on the same date GUARDIOLA
and WHITNEY HOUSTON dead in a BATHTUB



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Black"]Blake: [SIZE="3"][COLOR="Blue"]Bathtub[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]

MICHAEL BLAKE with the DOORS on wiki.
JIM MORRISON dead in a BATHTUB

I like to think he posts from a secure location, covered in tinfoil and surrounded by jars of urine. The walls will be an masss of red strings crisscrossing between old newspaper clippings, tintin annuals and Kevin Costner movies.

Here's the actual thread in case anyone would like their mind opened

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11956

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Lightning Jim posted:

Just saw this on NPR, and I'm sure a lot the known nuts are going to jump all over this and twist it out of proportion, but this is still pretty legit crazy

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/05/06/404764522/3-arrested-in-california-for-operating-3-000-year-old-masonic-police-department


Something that no longer had any jurisdictional rights has been continuing to operate for who know hows long in the US, even making themselves look like modern cops. :wtf:

That's great stuff, it's got all the right ingredients in it. Masons, "33" states, Knights Templer. But no actual detail. This could run and run.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/bin-laden-was-911-conspiracy-theorist-2015052298518

quote:

“George W Bush had the means, he had the motive and his undoubted genius meant the whole thing was executed flawlessly.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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The Bilderburg Group meeting starts tomorrow, they've gone with a classic mix of high tech, military and old school Zionist for the older conspiracist this year.

You've got Eric Schmidt and the head of Google DeepMind atttending, a little hat tip to those who like a little mark of the devil/global microchiping/RFID/AI in their theory soup.

General Petraeous for your more straight forward military dictatorship types. I think he's going to be a big hit with Jade Helm going on at the moment. Maybe a thoery that he's reporting on how well the take over of Texas is going.

And of course Kissinger will be there, representing the Zionist Paedophile Reptoids of the Lower 4th Dimension for your classic NWO anti-semites. You can't forget who got you here.

It's being held high in the Austrian Alps for that extra hint of Nazi and esoteric flavour.

Should be a good one

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Seriously the Bilderbergs are meeting and you;re all talking about protein powder......

I sense dis info agents on a mission to distract

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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QuarkJets posted:

Okay. Do you want to talk about the Bilderbergs?

Not angry, just hoping maybe someone had spotted some good theories around this years meeting.

I'm just amazed no one has bugged the thing. And why are these peoples private emails never hacked and leaked? People spend years hacking celebrities phones for a picture of some average tit but no one has thought to hack one of these guys? Think of the front running on the stock market you could do!

You'd be far more likely to find the head of Goldmans dick pics than any proof of the NWO.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Carsius posted:

The average person doesn't obsess over rich people the way he does over celebrities.

Besides, I'd expect one of these people to be actually competent in basic security measures.

You reckon? Being rich and powerful doesn't mean you're not as prone as anyone else to stupid mistakes. Hilary Clinton used a personal email for official business. Sonys email got hacked, although that could well have been an inside job. All these people got their phones hacked in a fairly simple way http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/29/leveson-inquiry-list-victims-phone-hacking

The more I think about it the more I think it must be happening. Having forknowledge of mergers or suchlike would be a goldmine as long as you wern't stupid.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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gradenko_2000 posted:

It was my understanding that Clinton used personal email partly because it was supposed to be more secure than the official government systems, and that this personal email was never compromised, only that people found out that she was doing so.

Quite an endorsement of the government email system!

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Seriously, despite my name I'm not a nut!

I was just saying that it's pretty amazing that the US governments email system is very safe

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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McDowell posted:

The lizard people thing is big today because of David Icke. For a brief time in the late 80's he was a British TV personality and politician for the Greens. But he had a break-down and went crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2MEN4-49dM

Some people would say he really knows the TRUTH! As seen on V! Or you could argue he was intentionally discredited/drugged.

He nailed it with Edward Heath though didn't he? Maybe not the blood drinking reptile stuff, but Ickes been banging on about a Westminster Paedo ring since the 90's. Think he even had Savile pegged a decade early, although that seems like it was an open secret.

twistedmentat posted:

I just bought lots of an lots of UFO and Ghost books. I totally bought into the whole ancient aliens thing after finding Chariots of the Gods at a book sale. Thing is, I thought "Why do archaeologists miss this? Its so obvious?" rather than "They're suppressing it!!!" which seems to be the go to answer these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbiWuK1d8qY&feature=share

Uh, a guy who sees pictures of underground installations that are public record and assumes its a real Alien Prison, I don't think he's as protected as he thinks.

I never bought into Chariots of the gods, to lowbrow for my razor sharp 90's brain. However, Graham Hancock and his book fingerprints of the gods got me totally. And if I'm being totally honest, I think he is being sort of proved right. Only in that civilisation is older than is though, not that the pyramid was built with forgotten technology. I can't wait until the sequel, Magicians of the Gods comes out in sept. I think he is right, the guy's gonna be hailed as a hero 20 years from now. gobekli tepe is the key!

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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twistedmentat posted:

Does he take a more "There are weird things out there that beg for more investigation beacuse they don't fit in with the history we already have. Ancient peoples were more advanced than we think" stance than the normal "Ancient people were dumb, magic people did all this stuff!"

I believe his current working theory is that there was an advanced human civilisation that existed around 12,000 years ago and earlier, with a technological level on a par with what we would call the ancient Egyptians but most likely more advanced than that. He isn't afraid to claim that they had some novel technology that we haven't since realised. Then about 12000 years ago there was a large impact from a broken up meteor that caused a huge climate upheaval over the next 1000 years that destroyed that civilisation. The ancient sites that are now being discovered are the remanats of that surviving civilisation. eg gebelki tepe, various monoliths in the med and other structures in the philipines. The ancient cultures we are familiar with are the descendents of those survivors.

He briefly went nuts in the 90's with some face on mars crap but has really pulled himself back. He's certainly not the same as those Ancient Alien theorists, seems to genuinely have a brain

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Briefly? He thinks that one of the primary aims of the War on Drugs is to prevent humanity from using hallucinogens to connect with psychic beings from other dimensions.
Hah, yes well there is his well known love of hallucinogens. I well may be wrong, but I don't think he ascribes a an actual targetted conspiracy to the war on drugs. Just a general O
orthodox resistance to the medical benefits of hallucinogens. The other demensional beings poo poo I could do without.

KiteAuraan posted:

The problem with that is the only well dated site, Gobekli Tepe, isn't exactly beyond the ability of hunter-gatherers who have a nice local wild subsistence base. Like the people in Turkey did 12,000 years ago.

As far as ancient civilisation, I haven't read his new book as it's out in september. But even Gobekli Tepe pushes human civilizations progress back much earlier the established interpretation.

I think one of his points is that sites like that wouldn't be beyond the ability of people 12000 years ago. He's not claiming any magic tech or aliens, just that human civilisation is older and was more advanced than is supposed

here's his latest monolith

http://grahamhancock.com/another-megalith-that-rewrites-history-is-found/

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

What you don't seem to understand is how the historical process works. You gather evidence and base your conclusions off that evidence. The reason historians didn't claim the level of progress Goebekli Tepe shows (which is more than what we had seen previously but much less than what Hancock claims) was around back then wasn't because it was thought to be impossible, but because no one had shown evidence. Once evidence was shown, everyone pretty much went, "Ok, that's cool" and accepted it, and Hancock is more or less just angry that they don't listen to the parts of his hypothesis that don't have enough evidence to be supported. If he can show evidence for the more extreme parts of his ideas that isn't just "some other parts of my ideas are right, so they all must be", he'll get more support.

I understand how it works thanks, I was passing on his theory, I don't really buy into it all (though I'd like to, it's a great story). I'm just pleased that there is some mystery back into the history of human civilisation, ancient sites that are far older than anyone thought. Regardless of weather any of Hancocks wacky ideas turn out to be correct. I loved his book when I was a teenager because I loved ancient history and suddenly here was a book that was saying that there was a whole ancient civilisation we know nothing about. I wasn't critical enough then to realise that i couldn't really put the info in that book next to what I read in genuine history books on the subject. When I heard about Gobelki Tepe I loved it. Can't wait to see what story he weaves out of it in his next book. Even though it will mostly be unsupported!

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

The issue with ancient history is that there are basically guaranteed to be ancient civilizations we know little to nothing about. Not only has time erased a lot of it but sometimes civilizations would literally erase each other. Plus when you consider things like "before writing was invented" no records were kept about ancient civilizations. We can speculate a lot about so many things but without hard evidence there's a lot that's going to be just speculation forever.


Yeah, the Hittite Empire is a great example of that. It's existence was only really confirmed/discovered about 100 years ago, and they were around far more recently.

What I like is the idea of discovering an ancient civilisation that is much more advanced than we would expect it to be. A civilisation on a technological level with the Egyptians that existed 6000 years earlier than they did would be incredibly interesting, and considering that despite a sort of general view that human advancement is always progressing up, we know that isn't really true and technological skill can drop away for a thousand years quite easily for various reasons. So it's certainly not out of the realms of possibility from that angle.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

If you read about ancient history that happens a lot for the same reasons that certain pieces of technology can't be nailed to one region. There are a lot of ideas that actually popped up thousands of years apart in independent cultures. But sometimes you'd have people arguing "well this ceramic technique proves that these civilizations had contact!" Well, no, especially in the case of ceramics. Clay and fire were loving everywhere. It also depends on how you define "advanced." Civilizations developed very differently depending on the area. A civilization that grew up in a swamp (hello, Aztecs!) would have less use for wheels than most others because of local circumstances but "developed the wheel" is considered an important invention. Writing is another one that comes to mind. It just wasn't useful to some peoples so they didn't even bother thinking it up.

Similarly it doesn't work like a video game where you develop things in a specific order and X requires Y. People are actually pretty damned clever and can figure out unique ways of doing things if they need to. Just because one civilization figured out wheels before letters doesn't mean they all do it that way.

Yeah, I agree!

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

It's significantly cheaper to pay a few guys to wander around in the woods and make logical fallacies than it is to produce a properly researched show.

There was a show on Channel 4 in the UK called Bigfoot files that attempted a more scientific look at Bigfoot and his cousins round the world a few years ago. It ended up with a claim that it had sequenced some hair that 'might' indicate that the Yeti is some kind of prehistoric bear thought to be extinct.

But they interviewed a guy how claimed to have shot and killed a young bigfoot. What was really interesting was that when they examined the claim, i think he had some hair or blood or something, it was just a bear. But when they told him he cried, somehow he had genuinely convinced himself that it was a bigfoot. It was bizarre to watch but a great example of how self delusional humans can be.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ar-8884811.html

All the shows are on youtube. It's a good watch, mainly because it doesn't start from the premise that bigfoot is real! Some interesting stuff about a Russian apeman actually just being some poor black woman bought up to Siberia from Africa and locked up

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Jack Gladney posted:

Is Trump a lizard person to the infowars crowd, or a trustworthy outsider?

Do regular people who come up through the system get turned into lizards? Or replaced by lizard impersonators?

Not sure about trump, it's all to do with bloodlines, hence why bizarely David Icke claims Kris Kristopherson was a reptilian.

As I understand it a human can only reach a certain level beyond which only reptilian/human hybrids can go. Pure reptilians are from another dimension. Not sure trump fits the bill

Of course there are a lot of idiots on the internet claiming things like Obama is a shapeshifter, when he is at best 1/5th reptilian and therefore would be able to do the shifty eye thing in youtube videos

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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twistedmentat posted:

So in the CT FB group i'm part of, there were people who were ignorant of Gangstalking and the whole TI thing. It really is the most narcissistic of CTs, which are all inherantly narcissistic, as they all claim they know things that everyone else does not.

There's an amazing video of a guy explaining how he's being ganag stalked because his jeans are ripped. Gangstalking is definitely one of the weirder ones

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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In case anyone was wondering, the posters over at the Icke forums have already identified that reporters who got shot live on TV earlier today as a false flag operation.

this was posted as relevent somehow

quote:

Alice in Adam's camera lens

Camera Lens= Moon/Sophia
Alison 'Parker'=Jewish
'Adam' Garden of Eden
'Water' Park
BridgeWater

Image of The Moon as Sophia
The Moon as the central principle of reality, and on the Gnostic revelation that the Moon is a Mirror of the Young Sophia as She pulls away from the Cosmic Male (Adam) and in so doing gives birth to reality .


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=297731

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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I thought Snowden would be fairly popular with the CT's but apparently he is a CIA plant. I was reading a small article on him in the Guardian and then got surprised by the comments

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/19/edward-snowden-aliens-encryption-neil-degrasse-tyson-podcast

quote:

If there isn't a direct link between Dick Cheney and Nice guy Eddie I'd be very surprised.
I wonder if any investigative journalist out there can be bothered actually digging beneath the surface of this bullshit for once, instead of taking things in face value.
Well we will never see any actual revelations in this paper anyhow...as based on the amount of snowden and wikileaks crisp it's ran over the years surly it's the left wing propaganda wing of the CIA.

Seems there is quite a lot of CT's agreeing with him

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Shbobdb posted:

The black mirror episode "national anthem" is one of the most blatant examples of psychological priming I've seen in recent memory. That poo poo is everywhere.

Charlie Brooker is in the Illuminati!!! Say it isn't so....

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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quote:

On November 8, 2015, Martha, who I also believe is a demonically possessed Reptilian Draconian Vampire, yelled at me because I was in the bathroom. (Based on my experience, it is the demon or demons inside of Martha that force her to yell instead of talk in a normal voice.) I came out of the bathroom and told Martha that I would take my shower after she used the bathroom. She didn't use the bathroom.

Martha's a stone cold reptile bitch

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Theris posted:

What's the CTs' response to "If they have enough credible intelligence to know they're going to need 750 body bags on Friday, why don't they just close the mall that day?"

That's not even bothering to consider that having quality intelligence on the location, time, and magnitude of an attack means you probably have enough to arrest those responsible before they carry it out. And, of course, a government visibly preventing a major terrorist attack provides a similar propaganda benefit to the ones that CTs believe are the reason governments allow them to happen, so there's really no benefit to not stopping it.

If I was to guess, as a frequent adventurer into the darker recesses of internet conspiracy forums, I would say that the response would be "They aren't ordering the body bags because they have information that someone else is going to kill 750 people, they are ordering them because they are going to kill 750 people."

These sort of things are my favourite type of CT. I love it when the theorists turn some relatively minor local event or place into a conspiracy. In this case that the management of the Bluewater mall in Essex are up to their eyeballs in the illuminati.

Another recent examples would be the Walmart that closed during Jade Helm which had local "activitists" camped outside watching it for signs of an invading UN army setting up HQ there. That Walmart has since finished the plumbing work it needed and reopened.

And the infamous Bin Lorry Hoax in Glasgow. A horrible event where an out of control bin lorry killed some people. This was latched onto as a hoax a'la Sandy Hook. The whole event was staged and never happened. Quite why the Illuminati are now resorting to faking a garbage truck crash in Glasgow I never got a clear answer on. The driver had the shittiest job in the illuminati though, 20 years as a bin man before being told he'd have to run over a kid. I reckon he'd have preferred the Goldman Sachs job.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Skinty McEdger posted:

There is a quite lengthy breakdown of Ickes claims and the coverage of it at http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/06/01/the-savile-affair-did-david-icke-really-blow-the-whistle-on-jimmy-savile/. The independent had good coverage of it a few years ago, but I can't find the original article. The problem is that it's difficult to find coverage of his claims before his breakdown and most of the allegations he made afterwards were all wrapped up in satanic conspiracy theory. Icke's book "The Biggest Secret" deals with the pedophile ring at length, but doesn't name Savile, instead focusing on Ted Heath (and a lot of the allegations he makes there get overshadowed by his discussions of child sacrifices).

The government has just announced a full independent investigation into the allegations of a pedophile ring involving high profile and historical politicians, so this is all about to get a lot more attention and coverage which is often the time when the conspiracy theorists really come out of the wood work. Whatever the investigation discovers it's likely it won't be enough for the CT crowd and theres likely to be a new counter narrative soon.


One of the reasons the CT's really seem to keep coming back to Bluewater is all to do with the name of the mall. In various Illumaniti related texts makes references to the "Blue Water lilly" of ancient Egypt which was a symbol of death and rebirth. As a result there are some who are convinced there is something nefarious going on there.

One thing I've never seen any evidence for is the bloodlines thing. Icke claims all these family trees that you can trace every person of any importance through, from the Rothchilds (I think he claims Hitler's real dad was a Rothschild) to Thatcher to Pol Pot to bizarrely Kris Kristopherson, who is apparently a reptilian. I've never found these family trees reproduced anywhere though, even in his books. Most of the conspiracy world, especially on the internet, is an echo chamber of people citing their sources as someone else who is citing another CT citing someone else in a giant ouroborus. Presumably there is someone with a mental illness somewhere just making poo poo up, people mistake mental illness for new thinking and off we go.

It'd be great to find one conspiracy from the internet age and trace it back to see where it started. That might lead to it's own mental illness though

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Popular Thug Drink posted:

it's in some part arrogance, people just can't accept reality sometimes and would rather reject it and substitute their own

the most interesting part of 'crisis actor' mythology to me is where do you draw the line. it just seems like a dangerous leap over paranoid solipsism. so if some random perfectly plausible shooting was staged just to trick the masses, how do you know that any random other thing isn't staged? national elections? any other non-violent global news? how do you know your friends aren't crisis actors out to fool you? how do you know your parents aren't on the CIA payroll in a decades long attempt to brainwash you? once you start questioning basic daily events as an illuminati plot you start watching the mailman through your blinds and it's strange how people seem to find their own personal threshold for which events are obviously fake compared to others being obviously real

I'd like to do an actual breakdown of a hoax to get a chart up for just how many crisis actors would have to be involved. I mean if you going full hoax, nobody died, greenscreens etc, you very quickly get up into the 1000s. Emergency personal, neighbours, coroners, newspapers, eye witnesses, family members.

I've tried so many times but you will never get an answer from a Hoaxer to the question. Why plan this elaborate hoax when you could just shoot a load of people?

edit: oh and stop talking about loving carbs

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Logikv9 posted:

Keep the crisis actor group small so word doesn't get out / you can easily off them at a later time :ssh:

What is actually with the concept of fake shootings and crisis actors? Wouldn't it be easier to you know, actually shoot up these places? :psyduck: Instead of going through the hassle of hiring fake grieving people, falsify police records, etc.

I've tried to explain this so many times. Usually they just ignore it, but if one does chance an answer it's usually along the line of "They put these clues in there to taunt those of us who can see them". I think it plays into their plucky rebel alliance fantasy. Like the illuminati give a flying gently caress about the commentators on a conspiracy forum!

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

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Seems to me this thread has been infiltrated by paid NSA shills to derail the important research and discussion by filling it up with tangents about 1900s London's sanitation and train networks.

Classic shill behaviour. I refer you to

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1388

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Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

I'm more interested in the last attempt to depopulate the planet. Zika.

http://www.naturalnews.com/044182_birth_defects_anencephaly_Washington_State.html

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On the surface, this looks like yet another example of poisoning that Natural News editor and founder Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, wrote about recently when he said humanity doesn't stand a chance of surviving this onslaught of corporate-sponsored genocide

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Dec 3, 2005

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xthetenth posted:

You're wrong, it's topic homeopathy :colbert:.

That makes it more potent.....

I expect some really weird poo poo to be posted soon then

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Dec 3, 2005

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Mr Jaunts posted:

Didn't really know where to put this, so this thread seemed best. Reddit has worked itself up over the recent death of a man in Fresno, who was found dead of stab wounds in his house (surrounded by a locked gate), which had been set on fire. A grisly scene to be sure, but they are convinced he was murdered by Fresno PD as retaliation for making negative remarks about them in the comments section of a local news website. For several days before he died, he wrote on facebook that the cops were out to get him. His youtube is filled with security camera footage of, seemingly, people walking and cars driving in front of his house, and his website is filled with long rants that seem to be the work of a paranoid schizophrenic; every one who calls him and strangers he sees or encounters in real life are all connected, and all part of the police conspiracy to take him down for some Disqus comments.

This has been sitting at the top of /r/news for hours. Naturally, Reddit is convinced they've uncovered a huge conspiracy and coverup by the Fresno PD. Now, I have no doubt that those cops are less than squeaky clean (and distrust of LEOs isn't really unwarranted), and its awful what happened to this guy, but the whole thing is just so over the top, and it's not surprising at all that Reddit is full of :tinfoil: it just makes so much sense :tinfoil: types. His website is truly a deep rabbit hole of paranoia, and there's an additional sad part about it which is that this guys problems with the police started at the same time his marriage was falling apart.

Or maybe it's all true and the Fresno PD is the most vindictive, evil LEA in the country :shrug:

That's called being a victim of "gangstalking" and of all the ct's i think it's the one that is most clearly a mental illness. There are some bizarre videos on youtube of "victims" who present some baffling evidence. They seem to think that the 'government' or whoever is just loving with them, sneaking into their homes and rearraging their clothes or scuffing their shoes. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them had Morgellons as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuGR_DmnoI a handy guide about 4 mins in he starts explaining how they are sneaking in and artificially wearing out his clothes

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Dec 3, 2005

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WampaLord posted:

Words cannot express how much I love this ad, because I can see the thought process that takes it from "What's a cool thing kids are saying these days?" and manages to go through a bunch of old white guys giving it their thumbs up without ever asking anyone outside their bubble "Hey, what does 'I'd hit it' mean?"

E: VVV While appropriate speculation for the conspiracy thread, I doubt it, because it's just a tiny Internet banner ad. If they really wanted to do that, it'd probably be a TV spot.

They should capitalise on their mistake by running a series of ads describing what other foodstuffs the dollar menu guy would gently caress

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Dec 3, 2005

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fishmech posted:

It's about 12 years too late to capitalize on that campaign.

I live in a lead lined bunker and subsist on mushrooms i grow in a cave I carved out underneath my living area. I only really came out to see if it was acceptable to hump food now. Disappointed i missed my window

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Dec 3, 2005

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Switzerland posted:

ze... ze jewz....?

Classic Switzerland, won't commit to a side.

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Dec 3, 2005

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QuarkJets posted:

And I assume the crisis actor people have already gotten a theory out about this being a false flag operation by the government, using paid actors in order to take away everyone's fireworks (the first step toward making it more acceptable to take away everyone's guns, obvs)

Nothing is to small to be a false flag. There is a whole thread on the Icke forums about attempting to prove that minor bus crashes, like a bus getting stuck under a bridge or mounting a pavement and hitting a lamp post, are all false flags using crisis actors, fake doctors, the works. Also a powerstation in Didcot in Oxfordshire was being rigged for demolition and some of the explosives went off causing a partial collapse. One guy died. This to was a false flag.

It's baffling to think what kind of world these people inhabit.

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Dec 3, 2005

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That is amazing, the effort involved!

I like to think of the internet numerologists like a double digit IQ Bletchley Park.

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Dec 3, 2005

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duck monster posted:

For some reason the mental image of a room full of mentally retarded code breakers pouring over hitlers telegrams is funnier than it really has any right to be. Helmets, bibs, and bombes

Freaking out that there are German spies in the building because tonight's dinner menu adds up to 33. Also someone has been sneaking into their rooms and moving stuff around.

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Dec 3, 2005

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It's because people accept friend requests from any old random. Why do I want to be friends on Facebook with people who aren't my friends in real life? I've got 100 ish friends on Facebook and that's too many. Needs a culling.

I've had friend requests from friends of work colleagues who turned up at some quick after work drinks for half an hour. Next day, friend request. No of course I don't want to share photo's of me and mine with you, you loving weirdo!

I got accidentally sent email's by an american guy once about his BBQ, I told him II wasn't who he wanted and we had a laugh, but he clearly didn't remove me from his email addresses. Now I regularly get emails he is sending out to his friends about Obama the Muslim, Shillary murdering people etc etc. I don't tell him because I like reading the crazy.

The latest one this week included this video, which is quite simply edited to make Obama seem like he's setting up his NWO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw

I was going to just look up the original speech and send it back but then he might actually remove me from his address book and I won't get any more vital information like this.

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Dec 3, 2005

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MasterSlowPoke posted:

Just set up some email like concerned+mib@gmail.com and use that to email him back.

Maybe I can convince him he's being gangstalked....

It's actually quite scary, there are what appear to be fully functioning adults out there who genuinely think that Obama could have made a speech like that. Even if he was at Illuminati HQ making a speech, they're unlikely to broadcast it on national television!

How can people be so credulous? And it's not like you can change their opinion by explaining it, the marvellous human brain entrenches itself even more! You'd think everyone would watch that video and see it's fake before it even finished, but logic gets pants and towel whipped by confirmation bias every time.

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Dec 3, 2005

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Data Graham posted:

As we all know, nobody's more obsessed with nonstop taboo-breaking sex than a bunch of septuagenarians

Yeah but reptiles live a really long time, so 70 is like.....40 for them.

I just wonder where they get the time? We literally talking about some of the busiest people in the world. You'd think if they got an afternoon off they'd just crash on the sofa, not quickly organise a mass child gently caress under a pizza shop

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Illuminti
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RagnarokAngel posted:

I literally cannot make out anything in this video other than screaming. What the gently caress.

I was led to believe by reliable posters on reddit that you can clearly hear Podesta talking throughout the video as he assaults a child in a back room at comet ping pong. Are you suggesting this is not the case?

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