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Slowbeef posted:Do custom thumbnails actually... do anything for anyone? I don't ever really regard them when I go to watch videos - I usually find what I'm looking for via search and the title. I personally think they make a video series look neat and professional, for example Chip and Ironicus videos look pretty great with their per-series thumbnails and title cards. But if it's the stereotypical scarecam shot superimposed over a screen from the game and goofy-rear end font in primary colours then yeah, it does nothing for me.
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Sundowner posted:So I have a bit of a pretty uncommon perspective on the whole networks and youtube money bullshit. I know of Curse as the folks who run the minecraft forums and seem to do a bunch of stuff for MMOs too. I'm pleased to hear they're an agreeable lot, I was initially a bit offput when they took over minecraft's community side. Fascinating story, anyway, though I'm not sure what put you off doing it? That's fairly good money, was it just you got sick of the amount of crap that gets uploaded to youtube or something? If you don't mind me asking, that is.
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Sundowner posted:Eh, I "quit" for a half a year at first due to disinterest and focusing on college (in hindsight I was being angsty, I think) and then came back to a real YouTube partnership, a year later views started to dwindle for me and a lot of people I knew and over the years I just fell to obscurity, maintaining a small viewership which was fine but ultimately I wasn't in control of my income what so ever and the bigger other channels got, the less time and money networks had for smaller channels. At it's peak I had 50,000 subscribers and good percentage of that as regular views but it was clear I was on a downhill slope in terms of subscriber retention probably 2 years ago now. I was thinking it sounds like a bit of a rockstar lifestyle, in a way, as in you can make it big but probably won't and it'll all go downhill soon enough. Not the sort of thing I think I could handle certainly. It's weird because apart from the yogscast, all the people I watch LPs from are doing it on a fairly small scale, it's weird that the LP industry (jesus christ that shouldn't be a phrase that has meaning) is big enough not only to support celebrities, but also networks built around the videos and the business of monetizing them. Slightly scary, really, thinking about it.
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TotalBiscuit posted:I still have no idea why people watch this, but it's the only series I do where the primary demographic is 13-17 year olds. Everything else on the channel is 25-34 primary, followed by 18-24. It's also one of those games that has no story of its own so it's only really watchable if the people playing it are making something entertaining out of it. I personally didn't enjoy it so much (but then, jesse's style grates on me a little bit sometimes) but if I had to guess, it's because some folks maybe really, really enjoy that kind of LP. For me it's subjective, I like some of the yogscast minecraft stuff, and they only have what story they choose to put in it (and they usually choose some sort of goal for the series) but just watching people dick about in a game with no goal doesn't really do it for me. It is a bit of a mystery, but I do think it probably has something to do with people just enjoying watching other people dick about and seeing what wacky antics they'll get up to in the videos. That would explain possibly some of the viewership that scarecam LPers get, you don't watch it to see the game, you watch it for the people playing it and their response to what happens. For me I need a bit of the game in there at least, so I like stuff where the LPer sets a goal, or even if they're constantly riffing on the game because it's bad. Energy and personality can really enhance an LP (Kaz, medibot, and KFJ all did a FF13 LP which I really enjoyed because they work well together) but if you aren't going to include the game as anthing more than a pretense for watching the person, I don't see a lot of point.
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JamieTheD posted:Yeah, both my little brother (just entering college) and my neighbour (a lurker goon who's 20 odd) watch all of these sorts of shows, and I can understand the attraction. The Roosterteeth guys are engaging, and TotalBiscuit is also engaging (although the game he VAs in is not, not for me, at least). Then again, I used to run (briefly) with the "Funny [insert multiplayer game here] Videos" crowds, so make of that what you will... I mostly watch TB for the informative shows, WTF Is is a pretty good show for seeing what a game is like. Probably the best I've found at any rate.
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Slowbeef posted:I think Ambition came out well. (Thanks again to Pinstripe Hourglass for recording it.) It's a series of flash games designed to teach you online negotiation. This particular series focuses on a main story involving a suicide bomber, a love triangle, courtroom drama, and intrigue. I actually couldn't enjoy that series and it has nothing to do with your part in producing it, it's because the actual source material is like, ricky gervais levels of uncomfortable. If you want to watch something incredibly cringeworthy being made fun of by folks I would wholeheartedly recommend this series, as it's just... Well there's nothing else I know of that's anything like it.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/tehpauleh?feature=watch I'd like to recommend this fellow to anybody who kinda just wants to see a relatively intelligent person play a game they are interested in. He doesn't seem to do silly gimmicks very much, he generally cuts stuff out between episodes and within episodes in the case of things like minecraft, he doesn't do scarecams, he doesn't yell, and he is not staggeringly awful at the games he plays. If I have a complaint it's honestly that he's sometimes a little boring, but if you want to see a game played, he plays games. I can appreciate that, honestly, as it's remarkably hard to find someone who is comprehensible, competent, and plays a wide variety of newish releases. He's probably the most game-oriented LPer I've seen, because there's almost no personality there, just games. It's a little odd but also rather nice when that's exactly what you want to see.
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mcclay posted:I find that Cry is actually not that terrible, despite his association with PDP. His screwing around videos on Battlefield and the like are quite funny, he doesn't use a face cam and when he plays a horror game he actually shuts up and lets the gravity of the situation hit instead of rambling like a moron. While he does read text out loud he actually has the voice for it and he seems intelligent despite the company he keeps. His LP of Corpse Party was quite good. I enjoy Cry quite a lot, as you say he has a good voice for reading things, and he doesn't overdo it. Frankly I think having him read the text actually rather enhances the games in many cases, especially as really long games can be a bit of a slog to get through, and that lets you follow it while doing something else. He also LPs quite interesting little games, not just the youtube flavor of the month horror games, so +1 from me for him. IceAgeComing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knab9oQIMOQ  Reminds me of my own grandmother a little bit playing Zelda. She throws the controller more than I did when I was seven. Jazerus posted:I'd like to toss in a second recommendation for GetDaved. I checked him out because of this post and he really is quite good even though he does videos of stuff we would normally recommend SSLPs for. If you enjoy strategy LPs then he's a lot of fun to watch (though his mistakes in GalCiv 2 are kind of I like VLPs of most games honestly, even if they're not typically things you'd VLP, and this guy seems pretty cool, so thanks for the recommendation. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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Kai Tave posted:"At least they're better than PewDiePie" is the very definition of damning someone with faint praise. True, but it's also actually quite valid praise given what we have to pick from on youtube. "Not part of the illimitable tide of poo poo" is, while not difficult, at least a comparatively rare comment you can make.
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Dr. Buttass posted:On the other hand, if anyone can tell me exactly what PewDiePie's appeal is, that he's gotten so much attention and popularity, I'd appreciate it. I watched one of his videos once and I didn't even get to any explicitly offensive parts, he was just so incredibly unfunny I couldn't stand to listen to him I tend to think of him as funny for the same reason the Swedish Chef is funny. Silly noises and a silly face = funny. Except I actually like the Swedish Chef.
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Lazyfire posted:Imagine a world where PewDiePie got big enough that adults watched and liked his videos. You're walking down the hall at work and you can hear two people quoting his latest episode and you just want the world to burn. Christ I get that when I hear people saying 'lol' in real life... My inner mind has just gazed over the precipice of hell, thanks for that.
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Vicas posted:lol at people who have not accepted the word lol as a real-rear end part of the english language I've no objection to it in text or online, but saying it in real life is literally saying 'I am laughing now' instead of actually laughing.
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Powerfrog posted:This one is a little weird, It's runescape, (the bad outdated MMO) but it's a challenge series that avoids all the typical MMO stuff and I feel someone with no experience of the game could enjoy watching. See when I played runescape last, it was a bunch of weird cone people with sphere heads and it ran at 10fps in a browser. That doesn't look like runescape to me.
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Singh Long posted:I'm sure it will turn out something like these. I was just thinking of this guy reading the above posts. It is funny, just in a different way. It's not supposed to be funny, but you laugh at it, not with it, at it.
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Roar posted:The problem with the Yogscast is that whenever they do anything remotely interesting in Minecraft, they eventually try to shoehorn some weird back story into it. I get that there needs to be something since it's an open-ended game with no story at all but gently caress, things like Shadows of Israphel got really, really dumb after a while. Did you grow up in the eighties/nineties? Do you like tangential references to pop culture from that era? Are you the person in your family that doesn't get invited to weddings because of your moderately sleazy fascination with grubby jokes? If so, this is the channel for you. He's like some weird combination of ricky gervais and whoever writes the material for the simpsons. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Nov 10, 2013 |
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Lazyfire posted:I think the appeal of Sips is that he can think on his feet relatively well when it comes to branching out his commentary (go look at his Towns videos) and it keeps thing interesting. The major issue is that he gets so caught up in the commentary he forgets how to play games. He nearly starved to death in Don't Starve thinking that something was hitting him, for example. I really can't watch him at this point because he just travels to Narnia on his comments to such an extend the gameplay becomes either boring or terrible almost every video. I... guess? He can certainly blather on over just about anything, but like I said, it seems to be almost always either slightly creepy jokes, 'awkward-funny' style stuff like The Office (or anything ricky gervais ever does) or constant 80's pop culture references. He seems less like an LPer and more like some sort of bizzare savant who is kind of obsessed with the 80's and sexual innuendo, and likes talking about it over videogames. Edit: On the plus side he is markedly better at the games he plays than Lewis, Duncan, or Simon. He isn't very good at them, but he's still better than they are.
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Agent Interrobang posted:I find Josh funny, but I also have to just roll my eyes at them because what they consider 'terrible design' baffles me entirely sometimes. I can understand picking on some of the Assassin's Creed games, Revelations and 3 in particular, but they picked out AC2 to heap scorn on? Also them ragging on Alan Wake like it's an incompetent effort is just I haven't played Alan Wake but the LPs made it looks like a pretty competent game... Unless the controls are unbearably stiff I can't imagine why someone would object to it, it's a quite unique, superbly acted, and seemingly well polished third person shooter.
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Dickey Butts posted:Shotgun Butterfly has a weird and stupid name, but a great sense of what an LP should be. That he has less than 100 views on most of his videos is ridiculous, in my opinion. He's currently working on an LP of Hotline Miami, and he's completed an excellent LP of Just Cause 2 that is really more of a love note. He's got all the SA chops in terms of good editing and proper equipment, but he obviously puts most of his work into his commentary. Highly scripted, they come across more as video essays than LPs, and it's to their benefit. If you like informative but funny LPs from someone who obviously loves the game their showing off, I couldn't recommend him more. He also has a series called "Should you get" where he does brief previews that are also worth watching. This guy is actually really loving good, I honestly can't understand why he has such low viewer counts, hopefully this will fix it a little.
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DWK posted:My toddler was sat with me when I was watching Arthur de Wolfe play scribblenauts once. He loved the little man jumping around and creating things out of thin air (and there may have been a sighting of Father Christmas which is always exciting when you're 3). I do feel like I might have created a monster though because he had no real idea what video games were before that evening, now he wants to help daddy play GTA V and gets quite upset that he isn't allowed. Arthur's a pretty good LPer for kids, I'd say. I doubt kids would get all the jokes but he's quite laid back and makes a lot of jokes about the game, and doesn't go into the tasteless stuff a lot of LPers do. Aside from a bit of cussin' which I grew up with anyway so I never really thought about it being something kids shouldn't be exposed to, you could do a lot worse. Though no LP is really going to be 'for children' really, in the sense that it's highly filtered development-assisting programming guaranteed not to get your kid to start asking what complicated words mean. If you want something game related for your kids to do, give them a videogame, those are actually good for developing spatial skills. Buy your kids Portal or something.
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bobjr posted:For all the legal action DSP said he'd ever take on various people, has he actually done any yet? I just like the idea of a lawyer talking to him and him not understanding how laws work. "Oh my god this legal system is so bugged! The police are so bad at writing laws. Look at this! I can't even sue this guy! I'm trying to sue and it's not working, it's so bugged... *hyena laugh*"
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Lazyfire posted:This is one of two times I've seen this come up in the thread since the DSP hate train got back on the rails. I guess the idea is that even if he's an rear end in a top hat, he is a potentially productive one. It doesn't mean you necessarily have to like him, but just maybe the world is a better place in part because of his existence. If he donates money to charity it does technically mean that there are fewer dying children or whatever in the world because of him. Even if he's still incredibly annoying to listen to and you can make a strong argument for him being a terrible human being. DSP lacks that redeeming quality.
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Slowbeef posted:I disagree with this, but it's probably getting too serious, so I will bring up one other funny thing: here's a good reason to watch your videos before publishing. I get the stuff about PDP just not knowing better, but he can be pretty unpleasant sometimes, I'd struggle to excuse that on grounds of ignorance/positive feedback loops and the like, but yeah, probably best not to go into that. Also,  seriously?Actually, it occurs to me that I'm more confused how he can possibly manage to get a. a girlfriend and b. her to make sexy videos for him. That's one thing that confuses me a lot, really. How do youtube celebrities have personal lives? I mean, youtube stardom is kind of getting really personal in the public eye, without the benefit of a media crew like actual celebrities have. It's really weird that people can have personal lives when the depth of their madness are recorded forever on the internet. I'm pretty sure nobody would want to sleep with me if I had hundreds of videos of me swearing at videogames on youtube while pulling faces in my webcam. Like anyone would want to sleep with you anyway! OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Calaveron posted:Didn't what'shisface LordKat just straight up start masturbating once during a stream, forgetting he was streaming? You'd think if you make your living filming yourself playing videogames in front of a live audience, you'd be more careful about what you're doing and what tabs you have open at the time. Oh god I do not want to see that...
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gatz posted:No, because, remember, we're talking about experiencing something new. Clearly, that can be done by watching/reading a let's play of a game you haven't played. If planescape: torment is considered to be one of the best written video games, there's not much of a difference between reading an LP of it compared to reading a well written fantasy novel. Not necessarily. Half the reason I like LP is to experience games I've never have, and probably never will play. That's a good thing certainly. But the other half of the reason is because it allows me to see how other people experience games I've already played. There was a way I heard it put, I think it was something like 'passive multiplayer' or something? The idea that you can take a singleplayer game, but let's playing it allows it to take on a multiplayer component, it's interesting to see the experience from someone else's perspective. Playing games multiplayer can be a lot of fun, and that passive multiplayer aspect to LP is a strong part of it. It can make a game more fun if you play it, enjoy it, and then see how someone else plays it and enjoys it.
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Slowbeef posted:Anything you can recommend specifically from Yogscast? I keep hearing about them, but never gave it a whirl myself. Their Civ5 games are quite good. As are their 'The Walls' matches which is a sort of PvP minecraft mode. Their actual minecraft series depends on... well... how much you like watching people play minecraft, really. If that sounds boring to you it'll be pretty boring, they don't do anything amazing with the formula, they just do it without being a bunch of dickheads which is more than you can say for a lot of minecraft LP. They're a bit like the 2 best friends guys in that they obviously get along quite well and it can be fun to listen to them shoot the poo poo while playing games. For me my general appraisal would be that while they aren't spectacularly good, you can't really call them bad by any reasonable measure, which is very impressive given their popularity, video output, and running time. Edit: Also yeah they do quite a lot of charity broadcasting which is commendable. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Slowbeef posted:To be honest, I'm starting to wonder if this is just sort of a necessary evil you have to do on YouTube because the market is flooded with Let's Play. It's "gaming the system" (the likes, anyway - they make you bubble up in YouTube's search algorithm) but I guess if you want people to see your video? I personally spend a lot of my time forgetting that the like button exists, so I can see why people do it. I figure it's something that people who aren't hard-wired to the facebooks might have an issue with forgetting.
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Mortimer posted:Just skipping through the video you can see his face, no, his whole BODY in various exaggerated poses. At least he's a method actor?
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inthesto posted:Is he really that popular? I've never heard anyone say anything positive about DSP, even in the dregs of YouTube comments. If anything, his fame comes from being widely hated, rather than anyone actually enjoying his content. DSP is LP reality television. You don't watch it because you like the people, you watch it because you enjoy watching a feckless wreck of a human being be so on camera. Or, if you're me, you watch the edited highlight reel with the peanut gallery spliced over the top of it and silly music edited in when you're really bored.
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RareAcumen posted:Tid [pronounced like Cid]-us [use without an e] Tidd-ooze?
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RareAcumen posted:I'd just like to restate that I never watched the video to check and instead made up a hypothetical pronunciation that no one who reads above a first grade level would come up with. So you probably got it completely right. DPS can't read, as evidenced by most of his playthroughs.
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Going to recommend kikoskia in general. His commentary is fairly solid and he does some really really entertaining tabletop RPG games.
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Samiz posted:I've seen him recommended before and I started watching a little of his Mount & Blade let's play. He doesn't LP any game I'd enjoy to watch right now but perhaps his Deus Ex: Invisible War LP; is it any good? I haven't actually watched that because I played DE:IW and it's... not really an experience I wish to repeat. I'll have a quick look and see if it's his usual style. Edit: From the looks of it it's his normal style so I would say 'yes, as long as you don't find his habit of replying to dialogue incredibly annoying'. I think it's some sort of verbal tic, grates on me a little bit, but otherwise I'd probably compare him to Your Evil Twin on SA, possibly in part because they're both competing in the incredibly English world championship. I mostly watch his RPG stuff, and occasionally use his minecraft LP as a sleep aid, but his other stuff isn't too bad, fairly informative and thorough in his playthroughs and usually good at the games too. Just like I said, he tends to reply to dialogue for some reason, so I favor his stuff that doesn't have ingame dislogue. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:04 on May 12, 2014 |
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Sorry, sorry, sorry. I just need to emphasise that this is a thing somebody wrote: quote:Hitora - The leader of Germania. Once an artist, now forced into politics. She is sometimes an arrogant girl, often sweet and sour, but her cuteness shines through. Her dream is to unite all of Europa under one banner, to prevent any countries being divided up over treaties. Based loosely on Adolf Hitler. Somebody looked at Hitler, and thought 'cuteness shines through, is pro european unity'
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Samiz posted:I miss when everyone put love and care into their let's plays and didn't do it because of revenue and hope of being famous. This is why I like Chuggaaconroy, even though I don't watch a lot of him anymore. He actually talks about the game and everything and is actually good at the games he plays instead of just screaming at a video game for "humour". The fact that he now makes money off of it hasn't caused him to go all "GOTTA PLAY HAPPY WHEELS AND MAKE MONEY". Same with One F Jef (channel name Jefmajor). He also sticks to what's now called "classic" let's playing as well as playing a lot of sandbox games Jef is pretty good if you want that sort of LP yeah. Depends a lot on whether you find him grating personality wise but he seems to only be able to LP stuff he actually likes playing.
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your evil twin posted:Hahaha! You've made me check out his stuff, and I can see what you mean. You both have similar enthusiastic commentary which I like. But I think we can safely say there is probably nobody in the world capable of matching your level of glee where energetic murder is concerned.
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Samiz posted:Speaking of Brits, what are your opinions on the Yogscast and their videos? For me they do some good stuff, Sjin does some really excellent minecraft builds, the yogscast civ games are quite fun to watch, as are some of their minecraft series if you like a bunch of friendly folks bullshiting while playing games. All the different members do things a bit differently so if you have a look through them you'll probably find something you like.
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djw175 posted:Just talking about Simon and Lewis, they're a bit dumb but it's a thing I can just turn off my brain and watch. Plus they do tons of charity stuff which is always good. Sips grates on me too. His commentary seems to consist mostly of 80's pop culture references and ricky gervais-esque awkward sex jokes. A lot of yogscast stuff isn't really let's play, it's more 'videogame centric entertainment show' or something, it's like a let's play but definitely quite different.
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