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Crazy Larry posted:Just look at what Mike Zimmer can do with the Bengals' d-line and a secondary that's relying heavily on Adam Jones, Terrence Newman and signing Chris Crocker off the street as a free agent mid season every year. The Bengals case has a lot to do with individual coaching over scheme, if that makes sense. Like Zimmer isn't using fancy coverages or anything to hide Newman, but rather Newman has played his position better than he ever has under Zimmer.
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It is pretty hilarious how badly that tie is going to gently caress the Vikings
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Mike Tanier wrote a billion words about the top of the draft next year: http://miketanier.sportsonearthblog.com/five-draft-day-top-five-scenarios/
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In their respective drafts the top 5 in receptions this season were picked at: 205 (Garcon) 195 (Antonio Brown) 3 (Andre Johnson) 232 (Edelman) 120 (Marshall) Yards is a bit more skewed towards high picks but only has two top 5 picks in the leaders (Green and Calvin).
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Great, well we have established that the best players tended to be drafted earlier but not always. Valuable insights.
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Jan 13, 2014 18:21
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Doltos posted:I'd say the Browns but they're surprisingly hard to fleece into trading up. The Jets on the other hand... And the Jets would trade up like 15 spots because?
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Jan 13, 2014 18:50
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Woof that is one loving turd of an article.
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Jan 13, 2014 18:57
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The answer is no, the Jets don't abandon their second round QB after a single 8-8 season.
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Aniki posted:Bridgewater going to the Vikings at 8 would be an absolute best case scenario. I don't think it will happen, but I would be ecstatic if it did. For guys familiar with Zimmer and the Bengals, what kind of players does he target in terms of physical attributes or personality? I don't know if there is a general book on the Bengals for defensive personnel or not. I think they have favored big tall secondary players over smaller, more agile guys. Like George IIoka, Reggie Nelson, and Dre Kirkpatrick are all big dudes. They traded for Taylor Mays is that is any indication, who was pretty good this year before he got hurt. Some of that could be Marvin picking players as well.
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Aniki posted:Xavier Rhodes and Chris Cook would fit that mold, though I think that Cook is gone regardless due to health and previous off the field issues. Given that he has a reputation for getting the most of DBs, I'm hoping that he'll be able to get the secondary back into shape. Zimmer likes to play more in a Nickel defense than a straight 4-3 most times, which is why the third CB (Pacman) usually had a lot more snaps than James Harrison. Some of that might be personnel in that the Bengals have a D-Line full of players who can both pass rush and defend the run, especially Atkins and Dunlap. Having big safeties plays into this as well.
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Manziel having more leadership than Bridgewater sort of reeks of Black Quarterback but I don't think Kiper is one of those guys.
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Jan 15, 2014 19:33
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Better smokescreen other teams about our true intentions on Tahj loving Boyd
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Half of the QBs on your poor name list are pretty good so that doesn't make any sense.
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If your team has a narrow lead and the clock ticks down to zero during a play do you: 1) Attempt to tackle the ballcarrier to end the game 2) Take off your helmet and throw it in celebration
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RisqueBarber posted:My Barber is from Johnny's home town and he was telling me that the Manziel family is basically the mob. He is right http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220
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ZenVulgarity posted:I bet this conversation has been had by scouts for real I bet it hasn't because it is retarded
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Feb 12, 2014 18:24
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No, I'm going to guess that scouts don't secretly talk about how beating up women makes you good at football
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Feb 12, 2014 18:49
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Doltos posted:Not everyone is as hung up on being 100% PC as internet forums are ~~~ Average guy joking around sure sounds different from "legitimately talk about if smoking weed or beating your wife makes you a better player"
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bhsman posted:Has it ever happened...ever? Probably. Is it widespread today? Probably not. Is anyone who seriously argues it a shitpail? Definitely. I'm sure it happened back when football scouting was primarily 'that guy is big and tough and mean!', which probably overlapped with the era where any good wife was expected to eat a few punches without telling anyone.
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Feb 12, 2014 19:09
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Drafting the people who slip because of abuse allegations can be a good idea. An example of this can be found in the case of #2 overall pick Jason Kidd.
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SpclKen posted:Very true, speaking if DII and DIII prospects, who is going to the combine? The panthers seem to draft a DII prospect the last couple drafts and I wanted to take a look at a couple. You can sort by conference at the NFL site to see them all http://www.nfl.com/combine/participants
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SpclKen posted:That's last years link, but thanks. Oh whoops, I assumed they would have updated it by now considering it is like a week or so away
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What is the general book on CBs in this draft? I get the impression that there is some depth there but not really a whole lot of surefire first round prospects. This is the first year in a while where I have no idea what the Bengals should do in the draft. I almost want them to take Aaron Donald and have two Geno Atkins but I'm not sure if you would want both of them to be on the field on the same time outside of obvious passing situations.
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I think the Bengals are in a good position to take a CB if a good one is at their spot, but it isn't a pressing need for the next season. Leon Hall will presumably back along with Newman, Jones and Kirkpatrick. Newman obviously might fall off a cliff at some point but he was good last year. Pacman is only 30 and seems fine and Kirkpatrick at least showed some signs that he wasn't a bust. It seems like they will really need a CB in 2015 and have the luxury of slowly rotating a new person in during 2014 instead of just throwing someone out there in Week 1. Sort of like how they would have needed a DE in 2014 and took Margus Hunt last draft. John Brown posted:Don't the Bengals run more zone than man anyway? I could be wrong but that what it seems like in the games that I've watched. They usually ran man coverage but did a little bit of everything.
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SoE also has a mock draft(s) up http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/67711888/sports-on-earth-nfl-mock-draft-houston-texans-teddy-bridgewater
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The NFL draft grades sure suggest Aaron Donald is garbage. I thought he was a consensus first round or two pick after the combine?
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Feb 17, 2014 15:20
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I mean Senior Bowl not combine, sorry. But yeah that list is really odd. He surely isn't the 30th best DL prospect.
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I read that Tajh Boyd was so bad at the Senior Bowl that he might not get drafted. No accuracy on anything, bad decision making, gets through one read before tucking the ball and running, etc.
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Yeah Shembo shouldn't have sexually assaulted the girl but
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Feh. If you want to treat raping people as an inexcusable violent crime then maybe you and your liberal buddies can form a weekly meeting at your Local Independent Coffee Shop and talk it over while drinking lattes.
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I don't think GMs ignore rape allegations either, that seems like a made up thing. It might not necessarily be due to morality reasons but they probably don't like getting tons of 'why did you draft a rapist' questions or 'that rapist sure is rising up the depth chart huh'.
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Feb 24, 2014 18:40
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Kalli posted:Well it depends. For example, Bill Parcells drafted Christian Peter in 1996, after he had known to have raped at least three women and been convicted of various lesser offenses 8 times including grabbing a woman by the throat in a bar a month before the draft. The next day, the firestorm of media reports had Kraft force Parcells to cut Peters which is pretty much considered the event that got Parcells to leave for an owner that wouldn't meddle with his team. What the gently caress is with Nebraska football
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SoE has a really good piece on Robinson and his trip to the combine. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/68258092/auburn-tackle-greg-robinson-was-solid-at-the-nfl-combine
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smuggler posted:Has Jake Long ever threatened to murder someone? Probably Jeff Ireland at some point
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I think QBs with very small sample sizes are viewed pretty skeptically around the league these days and are probably not that valuable unless a team gets super desperate. Matt Flynn is sort of the poster child for it and Kolb was a pretty big bust as well. Who is the last backup QB like this to move to another team and do really well with a big contract? Schaub? I am probably missing someone super obvious
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Doltos posted:It's not but 8 tds and 10 ints over backup duty as a fourth round pick on an organization who focused all of it's attention on the QB picked three rounds in front of you is pretty darn good. No it isn't good. It isn't bad really either, it just isn't anything substantive that makes you want to fork good picks over for.
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Feb 24, 2014 22:10
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Haha remember when Buffalo gave Ryan Fitzpatrick $24m guaranteed I almost forgot about that
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My amateur opinion is that there is enough depth in the draft to be able to pick outside of need in the top part of the first round. Especially if you think the player there is really destined to become a top player in the league, which probably fits Sammy Watkins. Picking him and then sifting through the piles of good DE/CB talent in the top of the second round seems like a pretty decent plan to me. The exception would be if one of the QBs drops since it fills such a hole for the Vikings that would be much less likely to be fixed by taking Aaron Murray or whoever in the third.
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