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JaucheCharly posted:First day in uniform, on the parade ground, the drill seargant thundered: "AP HEUTE SEIT IHR.......SOLTATEN!" (he didn't know how to pronouce the words correctly. God, that was so funny and scary.) You are so lucky I'm on a phone or else you would get such a talking to in phonetically transcribed Bavarian.
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HEY GAL posted:
Wos hob i gedahn!?  And for the record, when I'm not on a phone y'all are getting a stern talking to on the etymology of 'barbarian' from ten pages back.
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Apr 12, 2014 04:23
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Hegal, I know you've been asked this like a billion times, but what's a good introduction to the nitty-gritty of the 30 Years War? Bonus points for spergy translation notes and lots of Landsknechte. I might actually get some free time to do some pleasure reading in a bit. CoolCab posted:In a similar way to how we say "blah blah blah" to denote someone talking while you aren't (or aren't able to be) listening, Romans used "bar bar bar". So a barbarian is someone who couldn't speak the language. Nope! http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=barbarian While it's true that it's originally onomatopoeic, you're off by several thousand years ; that's what it was for the Proto-Indo Europeans, a.k.a. back when you were hot poo poo if you had bronze tools. For the Romans it just meant 'foreigner'. If you hear some folksy bullshit, just Google "[word] etymology" and go to etymonline. It's right most of the time, although it can take some finagling if you want to go back too far since it's not perfectly cross-indexed at that actually does require specialized knowledge.
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Apr 14, 2014 15:33
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HEY GAL posted:Translation notes? You don't need a translation, do you? Ugh, this is what I get for never learning to read... Maybe this will finally get me to get my poo poo together. Thanks! (And it's etymology-unknown, btw. Don't judge me for calling people out on wrong etymologies. If someone says something wrong about your area, you froth at the mouth to correct them ; I do the same for mine. You study The Best Dressed Murderers Ever, I do words.  )
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Apr 15, 2014 15:10
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Slavvy posted:I thought archangel Michael had a sword? Relevant, vaguely :  I went to the Cloisters (a rather nice museum in Northern NYC that's a bunch of re-assembled monasteries/churches, hence the name) on Friday and saw this representation of Michael Slaying the Anti-Christ. God that is a weird looking loving demon.
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Apr 22, 2014 14:38
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:An actual commercial for a show on the History Channel. I see it went on uh... Quite the little trip there. And no mention of the Rape of Nanking, really?
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May 28, 2014 04:37
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Hegel just reminded me of a cool anecdote that you guys might get a kick out of. So, for work I have to read lots of Old rear end Chinese poo poo. Like, literally everything and anything spanning a couple thousand years. I'm a linguist, not a historian, so really I'm just concentrating on how they're saying stuff and the content is kind of what the gently caress who gives a poo poo ; I tend to zone out after hour 5 of reading random bullshit and just wish they'd say "isn't" more. Anyway, so I get to the early 13th century and there's a kind of repeated refrain across a bunch of them that I took notice of and probably find much funnier than I should : 1200 or so : "Huh, the steppe nomads seem to be really organized now. I wonder what's up with that." Couple years later : "Apparently there's someone named 'Genghis Khan'? Something about being the 'Lord of All Who Dwell in Tents'? lol" Just a tick later : "O holy gently caress! O god!" Giant loving gap of no one talking. "The Mongols are great! We love the Mongols! We've always been the best of bros!" (I'm highly over simplifying because I'm summarizing a general trend.)
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May 29, 2014 16:40
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JaucheCharly posted:Ok, sorry. I forgot codpieces and the fancy hats with the huge feathers. Full disclosure : if I thought I could get away with it, I'd dress like that every god drat day. And I, personally, feel like the problem is with society and not me.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:26
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Holy poo poo, Hegel, that is a loving great post. Can you like just give daily anecdotes or something? Also, you made me lose a lot of time learning German officer titles just now so thanks I guess?
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Jul 3, 2014 23:24
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Did you just lump math in with the humanities??? Like, I, from my totally not a historian no dog in this fight perspective, would not call history a science whatever okay, but math is the science de rigeur. What?????
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Aug 14, 2014 16:52
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HEY GAL posted:No, math is a liberal art. Grammar, rhetoric, logic; math, music, geometry, astronomy. I included math because I don't think it depends on evidence in the same way that science does. There is no data gathering, you're trying to find...truths. No no no no and your math teacher should be shot. Math is the Platonic ideal of science. The data gathering is cruft and has nothing to do with the scientific method. Like no. Full stop.
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Aug 14, 2014 16:58
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PittTheElder posted:This. I probably wouldn't call history a science, nor would I call my own profession, engineering, a science; math is out too. Science to me is a very narrow field involving repeatable experimentation to investigate physical or biological phenomena. Which is not to say that history, engineering, and math, aren't scholarly disciplines, they just aren't science. No, it's just that experimentation/data-gathering for math is trivial so it's not a separate thing, barring some stuff involving lots of computation. I have no particular care whether you want to call history a science, but if you don't think mathematics is science you either 1) have never taken a high-level math class/actually talked to a mathematician or 2) fundamentally do not understand how science works. And the Plato was wrong == I said "Platonic" snipe was just bad rhetoric jesus don't be dense.
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HEY GAL posted:
... So you have no idea what mathematics actually does as a field. Got it.
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Aug 14, 2014 17:49
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I think that means you're using it wrong, toots. I'm sorry.
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Aug 28, 2014 23:23
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JaucheCharly posted:We got some here in the military museum. About the size of a pomegranate (that's probably no accident with the name, one way or another?), but made of glass. Nasty, thick glass No accident. (Pomegranate is the descendent of pomum grenatum "fruit with many seeds", cf. French pomme "apple" and other gr- seed words like granular and grain.) Linguist out. :mike drop:
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Sep 22, 2014 23:05
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I would totally volunteer webspace, if we can work out a way to give you credit and not doxx my pants off.
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Sep 30, 2014 05:53
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Trin Tragula posted:Right, so a couple of weeks ago, someone said: Marry me. So are you still updating the thread or should I just check your site every morning with my first cigarette? (...don't judge how I start my day...)
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Oct 15, 2014 21:51
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dublish posted:They're really going for the Bavarian pronunciation in those translations. ???????? The gently caress Bavarians are you listening to? Bavarian's non-rhotic, for a start. And the bigger problem you run into, and I assume a big cause of this, is transcription : English orthography is really, really non-phonemic, loving Chinese is better, and now you have to phonetically transcribe sounds that don't exist in English in a way so you pray to god some random rear end in a top hat reading them off the cuff will be understood by someone frightened for their lives and not super lenient with errors. That sounds hard as balls.
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^^^no no no. That's explicitly a Northern thing, in so far as I understand you. Bavarians, if anything, drop the sound at the end of a syllable. So like Preißen say "I" as 'isch' and we say it as 'i'. I am literally Bavarian. That is totally a Preiß thing and she is a traitor. Ensign Expendable posted:I showed the phrasebook to a German, and her best guess was that some Americans listened to German accents when speaking English and attempted to "reverse engineer" them for pronunciations. This worked poorly. That doesn't really jive unless only the transcription was done by English speakers ; these are stilted and weird phrases, sure, but not word for word translations and would require a decent knowledge of German. So that'd only make sense if they had a German speaker to do the first pass and then fired them for just some rear end in a top hat. Which maybe happened. Who knows? But it's dumb as hell if that's the case. (Full disclosure : I speak German and am a linguist so I'm like ?????) Xiahou Dun fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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HEY GAL posted:You speak Bavarian, you weirdo. THE OBJECTIVELY BEST GERMAN HATER
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MadDogMike posted:Ironically enough I first ran into the name in Charles Stross's Laundry Files series, which (sorta) pulled a "make them look good by having them face a greater evil" with STERNBERG of all people by having him basically vs. the Lovecraft Mythos. Granted, his opposition came in the form of an unholy necromantic spell he provided the victims for... It was pretty funny how easy it was for Stross to write him into the Mythos, he already WAS an evil insane aristocrat fascinated with an East Asian culture, all Stross had to do was adjust the fascination to those fake East Asian cultist cultures Lovecraft came up with. O thank god I'm not the only one. And this is in The Fuller Memorandum, third book in the Laundry Files. It's basically a good deconstruction of spy novels with Lovecraftian horrors and computer jokes. The first novel is a little rough, just because he hasn't figured it all out, but it's amazing if that's a niche you're interested in.
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Lots of languages lack a voicing alternation, so I'm not shocked. Especially if the writer were German.
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago You wouldn't happen to be able to point me to where I can read that German Sapper bit in German, would you? Also 
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Will do. I've barely been adding things to the blog, hence the large posts, but I'll use the end of the IJA stuff to give me some time to catch up with the blog. Thanks! I didn't want to be That Guy and complain, but holy poo poo your posts take forever to scroll passed on a phone. (Not that there's anything wrong with them, of course! The bits I've skimmed are excellently written. I just, personally, don't really care about specific kinds of projectiles and stuff ; I would never want to stop other people who enjoy that sort of thing from reading.)
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Apr 24, 2015 00:52
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HEY GAL posted:they said they were a mid thirties white nerd man with a beard and libertarian tendencies, and that could be any of us itt except the germans, the scandinavians, and me I'm a 20 something socialist thank you very much. 
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May 23, 2015 00:48
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Arquinsiel posted:This isn't just a high-level concept issue either. Look at feral children, neglected deaf people or the weird studies done on African tribes with totally different concepts of colour. Our languages do literally affect how our brains develop as we grow up on an individual level. You're confusing critical period of language acquisition (which is irrelevant) with the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis (which is straight up lies). In short : No.
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May 27, 2015 20:11
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Arquinsiel posted:I was thinking about this with regards to colour: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2011/08/horizon.shtml although the clip from the episode is hard to track down without digging into iplayer itself right now. I totally could be confusing things though. I can't watch that because I'm in the US, but I would stake my reputation as a linguist that either you or they are confused/wrong. As written your initial statement only has one bit that can be parsed and it's demonstrably false.
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May 27, 2015 21:37
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Cyrano4747 posted:Plus the soviets were hardcore into recycling after the war. Their economy was a mess, the western half of their country was a loving wreck, and they needed almost as many raw materials for the rebuilding as they did in the war. I'd believe them cutting it up for scrap way before I'd believe them dumping it in the ocean. Now I want a fence made out of reclaimed weapons and it's all your fault. I live in an apartment. I don't even have anything to put a fence on.
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Tomn posted:
Assuming it's 太, "extreme" is probably the best translation, cf 太極 and poo poo.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:35
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Disinterested posted:As you can see for Hegel's era, the guns can be as ridiculous as the outfits: Your links are dead, bro. Disinterested posted:You should see how ornate some of the crossbows, muskets and powder horns are in the collection Well?  (These own! Thank you!)
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Jun 11, 2015 19:38
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xthetenth posted:If you do that you keep the territory for exactly as long as you have men there. O no. It's happening again. You've unleashed the Mongol Debate.
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Jun 22, 2015 20:57
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P-Mack posted:...and throwing fireballs. The gently caress? P.S. Never edit down a quoted effort post to three words on a phone. Just spent a good 5-10 minutes holding down the backspace button. What am I doing with my life? P.P.S These posts own, by the way*. Thanks so much! PM me if you ever need help with Old Chinese poo poo. * And also to Trin. Really all the ongoing effort posts own and don't get as much love as they deserve.
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^^^Nah. They mean a throwing thing. Or at least what I read did. P-Mack's period is most of a millennium after I stop caring. P-Mack posted:"Fireball" is just an overly literal translation of 火球. Probably referring to some form of hand grenade. O word. That's actually an old word for something vaguely grenade-like ; I remember reading it pretty far back. I'm a linguist not a historian so I wasn't paying too much attention to content and just kind of waiting for them to say 'isn't'. Also 簡體字 are gross. Xiahou Dun fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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P-Mack, we're voting for order of posts and you'll eventually do them all, right? Please? Keeping that in mind 2.
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JaucheCharly posted:...Sun Language Theory... Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha O my god. I'd never heard of this. I was crying with laughter. Multiple colleagues poked their heads in to make sure I was okay. O my god. It's like saying Esperanto is the first language. I have to share this with my whole department. Thank you. FreudianSlippers posted:Korean and Turkish are both Altaic languages which shows that they are both descendants of the ancient globe spanning Turkic super-civilization that invented everything. That's actually highly contested. I mean, I back it, but it's still not uncontroversial.
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I think there must be confusion about the quote ; I know Carlin gets mocked here a lot, but he's not that dumb. Having recently re-listened to all of the WWI podcasts*, the only mention to Alexander the Great I remember his him talking about the relative size of the armies, i.e. look at how insane the scale of how big these WWI armies is. *I was cleaning, shut up.
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Did I make up the thing where the Italians had a machine gun that was fed by a god drat hopper of all things? My google-fu is failing me and I'm starting to think I'm crazy.
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Arquinsiel posted:So, uh, if it's not obvious to you guys... This X50,000. Like even just a little print on demand/kindle thing or whatever.
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I thought it was (supposedly) named after Cao Cao. (Who also didn't obviously but you get what I mean.)
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